Voice Recognition File - help



Brod
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
I want to save my Voice Recognition File in MS Office 2003 to prevent
re-educating it. What is it called? What is the extension? Where can I find
it?

TIA

--
Brod

garfield-n-odie
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
See
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cd72250f-2e02-430e-8f99-e1acae760564&DisplayLang=en
..

Brod wrote:

> I want to save my Voice Recognition File in MS Office 2003 to prevent
> re-educating it. What is it called? What is the extension? Where can I find
> it?
>
> TIA
>

Brod
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Thank you Garfield but I'm not sure what to do now. I have downloaded the
file, installed it and I have run it but I still am unable to find where the
original file is stored. It would appear to have the extension *.spf but
there is no such file on my computer.

In some of the older version it was possible just to move the file
containing all the 'educated' voice commands to a safe place and restore it
should the original be lost. This Word 2003 has me stumped. I just can't
find where all those stored records are.

TIA
--
Brod

"garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%234zcDTEfFHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> See
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cd72250f-2e02-430e-8f99-e1acae760564&DisplayLang=en .
>
> Brod wrote:
>
>> I want to save my Voice Recognition File in MS Office 2003 to prevent
>> re-educating it. What is it called? What is the extension? Where can I
>> find it?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>

garfield-n-odie
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
As far as I know, it was NEVER possible "just to move the file
containing all the 'educated' voice commands" because the speech
profile was not stored in one explicit file, and it was not even
possible to back up the speech profile before Microsoft developed
this speech profile manager tool. According to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283159 "Frequently asked
questions about speech recognition":

26. Are the speech recognition training files backed up by
the Save My Settings Wizard and the Profile Wizard? If not, is
there a way to do this manually and restore to a new system?

Currently these utilities do not save the speech recognition
training profile because they are designed for migration to
another computer. It is not very useful to restore user profiles
to a different computer on which audio channel may have a
different character. If you have to back up and to restore a
profile to the same system, you can use the Speech Profile
Manager utility.

For more information about the Speech Profile Manager utility,
visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/expert/vanwest_lexicon.mspx



Brod wrote:

> Thank you Garfield but I'm not sure what to do now. I have downloaded the
> file, installed it and I have run it but I still am unable to find where the
> original file is stored. It would appear to have the extension *.spf but
> there is no such file on my computer.
>
> In some of the older version it was possible just to move the file
> containing all the 'educated' voice commands to a safe place and restore it
> should the original be lost. This Word 2003 has me stumped. I just can't
> find where all those stored records are.
>
> TIA

Brod
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such and
such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another location.
Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
re-education routine.

Sad it has been changed.

Thanks anyway.
--
Brod

"garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23V9qwyEfFHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> As far as I know, it was NEVER possible "just to move the file containing
> all the 'educated' voice commands" because the speech profile was not
> stored in one explicit file, and it was not even possible to back up the
> speech profile before Microsoft developed this speech profile manager
> tool. According to http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283159 "Frequently
> asked questions about speech recognition":
>
> 26. Are the speech recognition training files backed up by the Save My
> Settings Wizard and the Profile Wizard? If not, is there a way to do this
> manually and restore to a new system?
>
> Currently these utilities do not save the speech recognition training
> profile because they are designed for migration to another computer. It is
> not very useful to restore user profiles to a different computer on which
> audio channel may have a different character. If you have to back up and
> to restore a profile to the same system, you can use the Speech Profile
> Manager utility.
>
> For more information about the Speech Profile Manager utility, visit the
> following Microsoft Web site:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/expert/vanwest_lexicon.mspx
>
>
>
> Brod wrote:
>
>> Thank you Garfield but I'm not sure what to do now. I have downloaded the
>> file, installed it and I have run it but I still am unable to find where
>> the original file is stored. It would appear to have the extension *.spf
>> but there is no such file on my computer.
>>
>> In some of the older version it was possible just to move the file
>> containing all the 'educated' voice commands to a safe place and restore
>> it should the original be lost. This Word 2003 has me stumped. I just
>> can't find where all those stored records are.
>>
>> TIA
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Are you sure you weren't using third-party voice-recognition software?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Brod" <cirdec@optusnetspam.com.au> wrote in message
news:42c207ed$0$15470$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
> When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such
and
> such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another
location.
> Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
> something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
> re-education routine.
>
> Sad it has been changed.
>
> Thanks anyway.
> --
> Brod
>
> "garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> news:%23V9qwyEfFHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > As far as I know, it was NEVER possible "just to move the file
containing
> > all the 'educated' voice commands" because the speech profile was not
> > stored in one explicit file, and it was not even possible to back up the
> > speech profile before Microsoft developed this speech profile manager
> > tool. According to http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283159
"Frequently
> > asked questions about speech recognition":
> >
> > 26. Are the speech recognition training files backed up by the Save
My
> > Settings Wizard and the Profile Wizard? If not, is there a way to do
this
> > manually and restore to a new system?
> >
> > Currently these utilities do not save the speech recognition training
> > profile because they are designed for migration to another computer. It
is
> > not very useful to restore user profiles to a different computer on
which
> > audio channel may have a different character. If you have to back up and
> > to restore a profile to the same system, you can use the Speech Profile
> > Manager utility.
> >
> > For more information about the Speech Profile Manager utility, visit the
> > following Microsoft Web site:
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/expert/vanwest_lexicon.mspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Brod wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Garfield but I'm not sure what to do now. I have downloaded
the
> >> file, installed it and I have run it but I still am unable to find
where
> >> the original file is stored. It would appear to have the extension
*.spf
> >> but there is no such file on my computer.
> >>
> >> In some of the older version it was possible just to move the file
> >> containing all the 'educated' voice commands to a safe place and
restore
> >> it should the original be lost. This Word 2003 has me stumped. I just
> >> can't find where all those stored records are.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >
>
>

garfield-n-odie
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
The first Word version that supported speech recognition was Word
2002 (Office XP), which is only one version before the current
Word 2003 (Office 2003), and the feature works the same way in
both versions. Not sure which "earlier versions" you're
referring to. Possibly you don't understand how speech
recognition works in Word any better than you understand how
bookmarks work in Word (to those who don't get the reference, see
Brod's advice to Sharon in
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.newusers/browse_frm/thread/559639fa6ae0324a
).

Brod wrote:

> Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
> When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such and
> such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another location.
> Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
> something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
> re-education routine.
>
> Sad it has been changed.
>
> Thanks anyway.

Brod
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
No need to be offensive Garfield. I certainly know what bookmarks are and
how to use Voice Recognition plus many of the other functions of Office. Be
assured I used to be able to save a single file to protect my voice
recognition configuration.

I challenge you to tell me what was wrong with the advice I gave Sharon.

--
Brod

"garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23mnbi1FfFHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The first Word version that supported speech recognition was Word 2002
> (Office XP), which is only one version before the current Word 2003
> (Office 2003), and the feature works the same way in both versions. Not
> sure which "earlier versions" you're referring to. Possibly you don't
> understand how speech recognition works in Word any better than you
> understand how bookmarks work in Word (to those who don't get the
> reference, see Brod's advice to Sharon in
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.newusers/browse_frm/thread/559639fa6ae0324a )
> .

Brod
07-10-2005, 12:04 AM
Suzanne,

I used 'Naturally Speaking Version 1' many years ago but found it very
unstable. I switched to Office Voice Recognition when it first came out.
I'm not sure which version it came in but I suspect it was either 2000 or
XP. I'm currently trying to establish when it first appeared in MS
products.
--
Brod

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ejKqXdFfFHA.3940@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Are you sure you weren't using third-party voice-recognition software?
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "Brod" <cirdec@optusnetspam.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42c207ed$0$15470$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
>> When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such
> and
>> such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another
> location.
>> Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
>> something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
>> re-education routine.
>>
>> Sad it has been changed.
>>
>> Thanks anyway.
>> --
>> Brod
>>
>> "garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
>> news:%23V9qwyEfFHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > As far as I know, it was NEVER possible "just to move the file
> containing
>> > all the 'educated' voice commands" because the speech profile was not
>> > stored in one explicit file, and it was not even possible to back up
>> > the
>> > speech profile before Microsoft developed this speech profile manager
>> > tool. According to http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283159
> "Frequently
>> > asked questions about speech recognition":
>> >
>> > 26. Are the speech recognition training files backed up by the Save
> My
>> > Settings Wizard and the Profile Wizard? If not, is there a way to do
> this
>> > manually and restore to a new system?
>> >
>> > Currently these utilities do not save the speech recognition training
>> > profile because they are designed for migration to another computer. It
> is
>> > not very useful to restore user profiles to a different computer on
> which
>> > audio channel may have a different character. If you have to back up
>> > and
>> > to restore a profile to the same system, you can use the Speech Profile
>> > Manager utility.
>> >
>> > For more information about the Speech Profile Manager utility, visit
>> > the
>> > following Microsoft Web site:
>> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/tabletpc/expert/vanwest_lexicon.mspx
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Brod wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank you Garfield but I'm not sure what to do now. I have downloaded
> the
>> >> file, installed it and I have run it but I still am unable to find
> where
>> >> the original file is stored. It would appear to have the extension
> *.spf
>> >> but there is no such file on my computer.
>> >>
>> >> In some of the older version it was possible just to move the file
>> >> containing all the 'educated' voice commands to a safe place and
> restore
>> >> it should the original be lost. This Word 2003 has me stumped. I just
>> >> can't find where all those stored records are.
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >
>>
>>
>

Bob Buckland ?:-\)
07-10-2005, 12:05 AM
Hi Brod,

The information on how to use the Speech Profile Import/Export
tool to create a .SPF file is in the link at the bottom
of the MS Knowledge Base article FAQ snippet that garfield-n-oldie
copied into a prior message.
from the MS Knowledge base article.

When you download the manager and double click it, it unpacks
a file named SPProfileMgr.exe. When you double click that you
should see a list of one or more Speech User Profile names that
match the ones in the Speech applet in the Windows control Panel
You can select one, choose [Export] and give the Profile a name
to use for saving. This creates the .SPF file, your backup.
To restore one later you run the SPProfileMgr.exe and [Import]
a profile copy.

The basic MS speech files are .dat files that have a file name
that starts with "SP_" and are generally located in

<drive>:\Documents and Settings\<your username here>\Application Data\Microsoft\Speech
and
<drive:\Documents and Settings\<your username here>\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Speech

Note that the Profile Mgr is from the Windows Speech team and
is a 'use as is' (non Office) product.

FWIW, Dragon's current versions have additional features, languages
and capabilities not presently available in the U.S. English only
implementation for English language portion of the MS Office Speech
implementation. http://scansoft.com

========
<<"Brod" <cirdec@optusnetspam.com.au> wrote in message news:42c207ed$0$15470$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such and
such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another location.
Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
re-education routine.

Sad it has been changed.

Thanks anyway.
--
Brod>>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

Brod
07-10-2005, 12:05 AM
Thank you Bob. I have found that out from other sources and have used it.
There is another problem though and that is that my primary concern was how
to transfer the 'educated' configuration from one computer to another. My
laptop has been educated but when I try to import the Toshiba laptop the
computer will not accept it. The laptop has been configured in Toshiba's
inbuilt sound recording system. I'm currently working out how to overcome
that.

Thank you.
--
Brod

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote
in message news:%23hLB8BYfFHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Brod,
>
> The information on how to use the Speech Profile Import/Export
> tool to create a .SPF file is in the link at the bottom
> of the MS Knowledge Base article FAQ snippet that garfield-n-oldie
> copied into a prior message.
> from the MS Knowledge base article.
>
> When you download the manager and double click it, it unpacks
> a file named SPProfileMgr.exe. When you double click that you
> should see a list of one or more Speech User Profile names that
> match the ones in the Speech applet in the Windows control Panel
> You can select one, choose [Export] and give the Profile a name
> to use for saving. This creates the .SPF file, your backup.
> To restore one later you run the SPProfileMgr.exe and [Import]
> a profile copy.
>
> The basic MS speech files are .dat files that have a file name
> that starts with "SP_" and are generally located in
>
> <drive>:\Documents and Settings\<your username here>\Application
> Data\Microsoft\Speech
> and
> <drive:\Documents and Settings\<your username here>\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Speech
>
> Note that the Profile Mgr is from the Windows Speech team and
> is a 'use as is' (non Office) product.
>
> FWIW, Dragon's current versions have additional features, languages
> and capabilities not presently available in the U.S. English only
> implementation for English language portion of the MS Office Speech
> implementation. http://scansoft.com
>
> ========
> <<"Brod" <cirdec@optusnetspam.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42c207ed$0$15470$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
> When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such
> and
> such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another
> location.
> Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
> something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
> re-education routine.
>
> Sad it has been changed.
>
> Thanks anyway.
> --
> Brod>>
> --
> Let us know if this helped you,
>
> Bob Buckland ?:-)
> MS Office System Products MVP
>
> *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
>
> For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
> http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx
>
>
>
>
>

Brod
07-10-2005, 12:05 AM
Posted May 30 2001










Speech recognition-one of the revolutionary new features in Microsoft
Office XP-makes it possible for users to enter text, control menus, and
execute commands simply by speaking into a microphone. A great supplement to
traditional mouse and keyboard input, speech recognition will boost
productivity and provide a new option for people who have difficulty using a
keyboard.




--
Brod

"garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%23mnbi1FfFHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The first Word version that supported speech recognition was Word
> 2002 (Office XP), which is only one version before the current
> Word 2003 (Office 2003), and the feature works the same way in
> both versions. Not sure which "earlier versions" you're
> referring to. Possibly you don't understand how speech
> recognition works in Word any better than you understand how
> bookmarks work in Word (to those who don't get the reference, see
> Brod's advice to Sharon in
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.newusers/browse_frm/thread/559639fa6ae0324a
> ).
>
> Brod wrote:
>
>> Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier versions.
>> When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to such
>> and
>> such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another
>> location.
>> Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
>> something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
>> re-education routine.
>>
>> Sad it has been changed.
>>
>> Thanks anyway.
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:05 AM
What is this supposed to prove? Speech recognition was introduced in Office
XP (Word 2002), just as garfield-n-odie said. So what is your point?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Brod" <cirdec@optusnetspam.com.au> wrote in message
news:42c46a9d$0$23640$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Posted May 30 2001
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Speech recognition-one of the revolutionary new features in
Microsoft
> Office XP-makes it possible for users to enter text, control menus, and
> execute commands simply by speaking into a microphone. A great supplement
to
> traditional mouse and keyboard input, speech recognition will boost
> productivity and provide a new option for people who have difficulty using
a
> keyboard.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Brod
>
> "garfield-n-odie" <garfieldnodie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> news:%23mnbi1FfFHA.3164@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > The first Word version that supported speech recognition was Word
> > 2002 (Office XP), which is only one version before the current
> > Word 2003 (Office 2003), and the feature works the same way in
> > both versions. Not sure which "earlier versions" you're
> > referring to. Possibly you don't understand how speech
> > recognition works in Word any better than you understand how
> > bookmarks work in Word (to those who don't get the reference, see
> > Brod's advice to Sharon in
> >
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.newusers/browse_frm/thread/559639fa6ae0324a
> > ).
> >
> > Brod wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Garfield. Trust me it WAS possible with the earlier
versions.
> >> When you altered the information it used to say it was saving it to
such
> >> and
> >> such a file and it was an easy matter to save the file to another
> >> location.
> >> Now it just saves it but does not tell you where or how. I'm scared
> >> something will go wrong and I'll have to go all through that tedious
> >> re-education routine.
> >>
> >> Sad it has been changed.
> >>
> >> Thanks anyway.
> >
>
>
>

Bob Buckland ?:-\)
07-10-2005, 12:05 AM
Hi Brod,

The speech profiles are, to some extent, machine specific.
While you can move the saved .SPF file from one computer to
another via email, or network copy or CD, it may not be
useful to you unless the two computers are fairly identical.

=========
<<"Brod" <cirdec@optusnetspam.com.au> wrote in message news:42c46862$0$11692$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Thank you Bob. I have found that out from other sources and have used it.
There is another problem though and that is that my primary concern was how
to transfer the 'educated' configuration from one computer to another. My
laptop has been educated but when I try to import the Toshiba laptop the
computer will not accept it. The laptop has been configured in Toshiba's
inbuilt sound recording system. I'm currently working out how to overcome
that.

Thank you.

Brod >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx


Voice Recognition File - help