Eula agrremnt?
Charles Eaves
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
I have a desktop and a laptop.
I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it is
okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner of
both computers.
I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
Am i wrong?
Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it on
a laptop and a desktop.
Thanks
Tom Porterfield
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Charles Eaves wrote:
> I have a desktop and a laptop.
> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it is
> okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner of
> both computers.
> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
> Am i wrong?
> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it on
> a laptop and a desktop.
Each application has its own license. If Symantec says you need two, then I
would guess that is what there license says. Microsoft Office is an example
of a program where the license does allow you to install it on both a
desktop and a laptop.
--
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MS-MVP Windows
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Will Denny
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Hi
That is what you have to with XP - purchase a separate license for each
installation.
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"Charles Eaves" <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>I have a desktop and a laptop.
> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it
> is
> okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner
> of
> both computers.
> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
> Am i wrong?
> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it
> on
> a laptop and a desktop.
> Thanks
Ken Blake
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
In
news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
Charles Eaves <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> typed:
> I have a desktop and a laptop.
> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a
> desktop,
> it is okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as
> I am
> the owner of both computers.
That depends entirely on the specific program and what its EULA
says. For example, what you say is false for Windows XP, but
correct for Microsoft Office.
> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2
> different
> laptops. Am i wrong?
Again, it depends entirely on the specific program and what its
EULA says. In most cases, however, that's correct.
> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to
> install
> it on a laptop and a desktop.
Then that's Symantec's policy and presumably what its EULA says.
If you're questioning this, I don't understand why you're asking
here, in a Microsoft newsgroup.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup
Charles Eaves
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
thanks
"Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> That is what you have to with XP - purchase a separate license for each
> installation.
>
> --
>
> Will Denny
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> Please reply to the News Groups
>
>
> "Charles Eaves" <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >I have a desktop and a laptop.
> > I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it
> > is
> > okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner
> > of
> > both computers.
> > I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different
laptops.
> > Am i wrong?
> > Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it
> > on
> > a laptop and a desktop.
> > Thanks
>
>
Charles Eaves
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Well ,then point me to the correct users group.
I am trying to clarify a misunderstanding that I had.
Maybe your answer at the bottom of your reply should have been "it is a
single license agreement."
I just needed some clarification.
I was just trying to do the correct thing in this instance.
Thanks for everyone who replied.
The newsgroup is microsoft.windowsxp.basic; isn't it or am I confused.
I thought that my question was pretty basic.
I will go buy another version of the same product.
Thanks again!
"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:ujq5xN9gFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> In
> news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
> Charles Eaves <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> typed:
>
> > I have a desktop and a laptop.
> > I was under the impression that if I install a program on a
> > desktop,
> > it is okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as
> > I am
> > the owner of both computers.
>
>
> That depends entirely on the specific program and what its EULA
> says. For example, what you say is false for Windows XP, but
> correct for Microsoft Office.
>
>
> > I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2
> > different
> > laptops. Am i wrong?
>
>
> Again, it depends entirely on the specific program and what its
> EULA says. In most cases, however, that's correct.
>
>
> > Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to
> > install
> > it on a laptop and a desktop.
>
>
> Then that's Symantec's policy and presumably what its EULA says.
> If you're questioning this, I don't understand why you're asking
> here, in a Microsoft newsgroup.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
David Candy
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Ask Symantec. This is Microsoft. Most here won't let symantec on their computers.
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"Charles Eaves" <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:Ltxze.1103436$w62.216939@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Well ,then point me to the correct users group.
> I am trying to clarify a misunderstanding that I had.
> Maybe your answer at the bottom of your reply should have been "it is a
> single license agreement."
> I just needed some clarification.
> I was just trying to do the correct thing in this instance.
> Thanks for everyone who replied.
> The newsgroup is microsoft.windowsxp.basic; isn't it or am I confused.
> I thought that my question was pretty basic.
> I will go buy another version of the same product.
> Thanks again!
> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:ujq5xN9gFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> In
>> news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
>> Charles Eaves <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> typed:
>>
>> > I have a desktop and a laptop.
>> > I was under the impression that if I install a program on a
>> > desktop,
>> > it is okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as
>> > I am
>> > the owner of both computers.
>>
>>
>> That depends entirely on the specific program and what its EULA
>> says. For example, what you say is false for Windows XP, but
>> correct for Microsoft Office.
>>
>>
>> > I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2
>> > different
>> > laptops. Am i wrong?
>>
>>
>> Again, it depends entirely on the specific program and what its
>> EULA says. In most cases, however, that's correct.
>>
>>
>> > Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to
>> > install
>> > it on a laptop and a desktop.
>>
>>
>> Then that's Symantec's policy and presumably what its EULA says.
>> If you're questioning this, I don't understand why you're asking
>> here, in a Microsoft newsgroup.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
>>
>>
>
>
Ken Blake
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
In
news:Ltxze.1103436$w62.216939@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
Charles Eaves <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> typed:
> Well ,then point me to the correct users group.
Sorry, I don't know where to get help with Symantec products.
> I am trying to clarify a misunderstanding that I had.
And I was trying to provide that clarification.
> Maybe your answer at the bottom of your reply should have been
> "it is
> a single license agreement."
No, it shouldn't. You haven't stated what Symantec product you're
asking about, I don't know anything about Symantec's license
agreements, and I don't presume to speak for Symantec.
> I just needed some clarification.
> I was just trying to do the correct thing in this instance.
> Thanks for everyone who replied.
> The newsgroup is microsoft.windowsxp.basic; isn't it or am I
> confused.
> I thought that my question was pretty basic.
Yes, the newsgroup is microsoft.windowsxp.basic. Your question
may be basic, but it's *not* about microsoft.windowsxp. It has
nothing to do with Microsoft or with Windows XP. It has to do
with a Symantec EULA, for a product you haven't even identified.
I was merely trying to point out that if you have a question
about a Symantec EULA, asking in a Windows XP newsgroup is not
likely to provide you with a definitive answer.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup
> I will go buy another version of the same product.
> Thanks again!
> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:ujq5xN9gFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> In
>> news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
>> Charles Eaves <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> typed:
>>
>>> I have a desktop and a laptop.
>>> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a
>>> desktop,
>>> it is okay to install the same program on the laptop as long
>>> as
>>> I am
>>> the owner of both computers.
>>
>>
>> That depends entirely on the specific program and what its
>> EULA
>> says. For example, what you say is false for Windows XP, but
>> correct for Microsoft Office.
>>
>>
>>> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2
>>> different
>>> laptops. Am i wrong?
>>
>>
>> Again, it depends entirely on the specific program and what
>> its
>> EULA says. In most cases, however, that's correct.
>>
>>
>>> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to
>>> install
>>> it on a laptop and a desktop.
>>
>>
>> Then that's Symantec's policy and presumably what its EULA
>> says.
>> If you're questioning this, I don't understand why you're
>> asking
>> here, in a Microsoft newsgroup.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
Justin
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
You were under the wrong impression.
"Charles Eaves" <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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I have a desktop and a laptop.
I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it is
okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner of
both computers.
I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
Am i wrong?
Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it on
a laptop and a desktop.
Thanks
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Charles;
Your impression is wrong.
Different products even from the same company can vary widely on licensing
of their products.
You need to do 2 things.
1. Read the specific EULA for the product you are referring.
2. If you still have questions, go to the product manufacturers forums,
tech support etc for their information.
--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org
"Charles Eaves" <charles.eaves@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4ywze.1103172$w62.451831@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>I have a desktop and a laptop.
> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it
> is
> okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner
> of
> both computers.
> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
> Am i wrong?
> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it
> on
> a laptop and a desktop.
> Thanks
>
>
Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Charles Eaves wrote:
> I have a desktop and a laptop.
> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it is
> okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner of
> both computers.
It depends entirely upon the EULA for each specific software product.
For instance, retail licenses of Office (and many other Microsoft
products) permit the installation of the software onto one desktop
computer and one portable computer, provided that the license owner is
the primary user of both machines, but this has never been the case with
Microsoft operating systems, such as Windows.
> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
> Am i wrong?
Only in thinking that all EULAs are the same. Each software
manufacturer determines the terms of its own products' licensing.
> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it on
> a laptop and a desktop.
That's normally the case, with most software manufacturers. If you
don't like Symantec's licensing terms, simply use a different product.
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Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
Charles Eaves wrote:
> The newsgroup is microsoft.windowsxp.basic; isn't it or am I confused.
> I thought that my question was pretty basic.
While the question _is_ basic, it has absolutely nothing to do with
Windows XP.
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Charles Eaves
07-09-2005, 09:19 PM
No, that will work. I was just confused.
Thanks
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Charles Eaves wrote:
> > I have a desktop and a laptop.
> > I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it
is
> > okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner
of
> > both computers.
>
>
> It depends entirely upon the EULA for each specific software product.
> For instance, retail licenses of Office (and many other Microsoft
> products) permit the installation of the software onto one desktop
> computer and one portable computer, provided that the license owner is
> the primary user of both machines, but this has never been the case with
> Microsoft operating systems, such as Windows.
>
>
> > I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different
laptops.
> > Am i wrong?
>
>
> Only in thinking that all EULAs are the same. Each software
> manufacturer determines the terms of its own products' licensing.
>
>
> > Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it
on
> > a laptop and a desktop.
>
>
> That's normally the case, with most software manufacturers. If you
> don't like Symantec's licensing terms, simply use a different product.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
> both at once. - RAH
Ron Martell
07-09-2005, 09:20 PM
Tom Porterfield <tpporter@mvps.org> wrote:
>Charles Eaves wrote:
>> I have a desktop and a laptop.
>> I was under the impression that if I install a program on a desktop, it is
>> okay to install the same program on the laptop as long as I am the owner of
>> both computers.
>> I know you can't do this to two different desktops or 2 different laptops.
>> Am i wrong?
>> Symantec says I have to buy 2 versions of the same product to install it on
>> a laptop and a desktop.
>
>Each application has its own license. If Symantec says you need two, then I
>would guess that is what there license says. Microsoft Office is an example
>of a program where the license does allow you to install it on both a
>desktop and a laptop.
Only a retail license for Microsoft Office has that provision. OEM
versions do not, and I do not believe that the educational versions
have it either.
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Eula agrremnt?