Adresses can not be AUTOMATICALLY retained?



Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store automatically
e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that in OE, every version.
Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it cannot even capture e-mail
addresses?
But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!

JR
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
John


"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store automatically
>e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that in OE, every version.
>Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it cannot even capture e-mail
>addresses?
> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>
>

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
Read again!
"JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
> John
>
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store automatically
>>e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that in OE, every
>>version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it cannot even capture
>>e-mail addresses?
>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>
>>
>
>

Graham Mayor
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word newusers
and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but these
are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we are. If
you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my
Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to right
click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>




Ritter197 wrote:
> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
> Read again!
> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> John
>>
>>
>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that
>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it
>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not Helpful, but
rather a reprimand.

So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.

"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
> newusers
> and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
> correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but these
> are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we are. If
> you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my
> Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to right
> click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
> numbers.
>
> --
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>
> My web site www.gmayor.com
> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>
>
>
>
> Ritter197 wrote:
>> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> Read again!
>> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that
>>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it
>>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>
>

JR
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
TALK ABOUT AN ATTITUDE !
WHEW!!

Try the kiddies corner. Down the hall on the left


"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not Helpful,
>but rather a reprimand.
>
> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>
> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
>> newusers
>> and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
>> correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
>> these
>> are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we are.
>> If
>> you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my
>> Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to right
>> click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>> numbers.
>>
>> --
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>
>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ritter197 wrote:
>>> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>> Read again!
>>> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that
>>>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it
>>>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>
>>
>
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the sender's
name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not Helpful,
but
> rather a reprimand.
>
> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>
> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
> > newusers
> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
these
> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we are.
If
> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my
> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to right
> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
> > numbers.
> >
> > --
> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >
> > My web site www.gmayor.com
> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ritter197 wrote:
> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
> >> Read again!
> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that
> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it
> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
> >
> >
>
>

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
You should not enter this newsgroup. NO HELP at all!!!


"JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:d7ednceprsdVeTXfRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> TALK ABOUT AN ATTITUDE !
> WHEW!!
>
> Try the kiddies corner. Down the hall on the left
>
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not Helpful,
>>but rather a reprimand.
>>
>> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>
>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
>>> newusers
>>> and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
>>> correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
>>> these
>>> are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we are.
>>> If
>>> you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my
>>> Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to right
>>> click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>>> numbers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>
>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ritter197 wrote:
>>>> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>>> Read again!
>>>> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>>>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that
>>>>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it
>>>>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>>>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Thank you, Suzanne.

That was very useful and it works!


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the sender's
> name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not Helpful,
> but
>> rather a reprimand.
>>
>> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>
>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
>> > newusers
>> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
>> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
> these
>> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we are.
> If
>> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my
>> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
>> > right
>> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>> > numbers.
>> >
>> > --
>> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>> >
>> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ritter197 wrote:
>> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> >> Read again!
>> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> >>> John
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do that
>> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and it
>> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
saying, "Your response was not Helpful."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> Thank you, Suzanne.
>
> That was very useful and it works!
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
sender's
> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
> >
> > --
> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > Words into Type
> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
> > so
> > all may benefit.
> >
> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
Helpful,
> > but
> >> rather a reprimand.
> >>
> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
> >>
> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
> >> > newusers
> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft). The
> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
> > these
> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we
are.
> > If
> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to
my
> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
> >> > right
> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
> >> > numbers.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >> >
> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
> >> >> Read again!
> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
> >> >>> John
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
that
> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and
it
> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
MY apologies to Graham. My mistake that I did not understand your advice
properly.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
> saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>
>> That was very useful and it works!
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
> sender's
>> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > Words into Type
>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> newsgroup
>> > so
>> > all may benefit.
>> >
>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
> Helpful,
>> > but
>> >> rather a reprimand.
>> >>
>> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>> >>
>> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
>> >> > newusers
>> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
>> >> > The
>> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
>> > these
>> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we
> are.
>> > If
>> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to
> my
>> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
>> >> > right
>> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>> >> > numbers.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>> >> >
>> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> >> >> Read again!
>> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> >> >>> John
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
> that
>> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and
> it
>> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Since you did not reply directly to his original post, I will forward this
to him.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BtydnXURKpU1czffRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> MY apologies to Graham. My mistake that I did not understand your advice
> properly.
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
> >
> > --
> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > Words into Type
> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
> > so
> > all may benefit.
> >
> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
> >>
> >> That was very useful and it works!
> >>
> >>
> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
> > sender's
> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> > Words into Type
> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> > newsgroup
> >> > so
> >> > all may benefit.
> >> >
> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
> > Helpful,
> >> > but
> >> >> rather a reprimand.
> >> >>
> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
> >> >> > newusers
> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
> >> >> > The
> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
but
> >> > these
> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we
> > are.
> >> > If
> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender
to
> > my
> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
> >> >> > right
> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
phone
> >> >> > numbers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
> >> >> >> Read again!
> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
> >> >> >>> John
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
> > that
> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
and
> > it
> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Graham Mayor
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Noted

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>



Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> Since you did not reply directly to his original post, I will forward
> this to him.
>
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:BtydnXURKpU1czffRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> MY apologies to Graham. My mistake that I did not understand your
>> advice properly.
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
>>> for saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>>>
>>> --
>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> Words into Type
>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup so
>>> all may benefit.
>>>
>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>>> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>>>
>>>> That was very useful and it works!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>>>>> sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>>>>> numbers"?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>>> Words into Type
>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>>>> newsgroup so
>>>>> all may benefit.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>>>> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>>>>>> Helpful, but rather a reprimand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>>>>>>> Word newusers
>>>>>>> and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
>>>>>>> Microsoft). The
>>>>>>> correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook
>>>>>>> forum, but these are peer groups and they are no more
>>>>>>> interested in whinges than we are. If you have a constructive
>>>>>>> question, such as 'how do I add a sender to my Outlook's
>>>>>>> contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to right
>>>>>>> click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
>>>>>>> phone numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ritter197 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>>>>>>> Read again!
>>>>>>>> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>>>>>>>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
>>>>>>>>>> do that in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a
>>>>>>>>>> "better" system and it cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>>>>>>>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!

mpt
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which was
condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the response
was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his question
does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
correctly saw as a reprimand.

Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who seek
help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration. It
would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment. And
this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response #2.

Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious, "Noted."

Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a proper
acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."

Richard


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
> saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>
>> That was very useful and it works!
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
> sender's
>> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > Words into Type
>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> newsgroup
>> > so
>> > all may benefit.
>> >
>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
> Helpful,
>> > but
>> >> rather a reprimand.
>> >>
>> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>> >>
>> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
>> >> > newusers
>> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
>> >> > The
>> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum, but
>> > these
>> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we
> are.
>> > If
>> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to
> my
>> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
>> >> > right
>> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>> >> > numbers.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>> >> >
>> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> >> >> Read again!
>> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> >> >>> John
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
> that
>> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and
> it
>> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

mpt
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
I'm sorry. I meant Mr. Mayor, not Mr. Graham.

Richard

"mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which
> was condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
> response was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to
> his question does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language
> that he correctly saw as a reprimand.
>
> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who seek
> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
> It would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
> And this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response
> #2.
>
> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
> "Noted."
>
> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
> proper acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>
> Richard
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
>> saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
>> so
>> all may benefit.
>>
>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>>
>>> That was very useful and it works!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>> sender's
>>> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> > Words into Type
>>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> newsgroup
>>> > so
>>> > all may benefit.
>>> >
>>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>> Helpful,
>>> > but
>>> >> rather a reprimand.
>>> >>
>>> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
>>> >> > newusers
>>> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
>>> >> > The
>>> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
>>> >> > but
>>> > these
>>> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we
>> are.
>>> > If
>>> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender to
>> my
>>> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
>>> >> > right
>>> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit phone
>>> >> > numbers.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>> >> >
>>> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>>> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>>> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>> >> >> Read again!
>>> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>> >> >>> John
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
>> that
>>> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system and
>> it
>>> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant. Moreover,
it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was actually
rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which
was
> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the response
> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
question
> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>
> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who seek
> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
It
> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment. And
> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response #2.
>
> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
"Noted."
>
> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
proper
> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>
> Richard
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
> >
> > --
> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > Words into Type
> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
> > so
> > all may benefit.
> >
> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
> >>
> >> That was very useful and it works!
> >>
> >>
> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
> > sender's
> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> > Words into Type
> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> > newsgroup
> >> > so
> >> > all may benefit.
> >> >
> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
> > Helpful,
> >> > but
> >> >> rather a reprimand.
> >> >>
> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to Word
> >> >> > newusers
> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
> >> >> > The
> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
but
> >> > these
> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than we
> > are.
> >> > If
> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender
to
> > my
> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you to
> >> >> > right
> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
phone
> >> >> > numbers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
> >> >> >> Read again!
> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
> >> >> >>> John
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
> > that
> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
and
> > it
> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

mpt
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:

"Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that basis
alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging that. It's
not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well mannered as to
apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."

Richard

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
> Moreover,
> it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
> Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
> question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
> place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
> actually
> rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which
> was
>> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the response
>> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
> question
>> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>>
>> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who seek
>> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
> It
>> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment. And
>> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response #2.
>>
>> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
> "Noted."
>>
>> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
> proper
>> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
>> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>> >
>> > --
>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > Words into Type
>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> newsgroup
>> > so
>> > all may benefit.
>> >
>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>> >>
>> >> That was very useful and it works!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>> > sender's
>> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> > Words into Type
>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> > newsgroup
>> >> > so
>> >> > all may benefit.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>> > Helpful,
>> >> > but
>> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>> >> >> > Word
>> >> >> > newusers
>> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
> but
>> >> > these
>> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
>> >> >> > we
>> > are.
>> >> > If
>> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender
> to
>> > my
>> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > right
>> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
> phone
>> >> >> > numbers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> >> >> >> Read again!
>> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> >> >> >>> John
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
>> > that
>> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
> and
>> > it
>> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

JR
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Is the the "Be Nice" forum or the "Word" forum ????
John





"mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1VMqe.37844$x96.28874@attbi_s72...
> Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:
>
> "Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
> recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that basis
> alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging that.
> It's not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well mannered
> as to apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."
>
> Richard
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
>> Moreover,
>> it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
>> Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
>> question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
>> place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
>> actually
>> rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
>> so
>> all may benefit.
>>
>> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>>> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which
>> was
>>> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
>>> response
>>> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
>> question
>>> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>>> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>>>
>>> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
>>> seek
>>> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
>> It
>>> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
>>> And
>>> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response #2.
>>>
>>> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>>> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
>> "Noted."
>>>
>>> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>>> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
>> proper
>>> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
>>> > for
>>> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> > Words into Type
>>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> newsgroup
>>> > so
>>> > all may benefit.
>>> >
>>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>> >>
>>> >> That was very useful and it works!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>>> > sender's
>>> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> >> > Words into Type
>>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> > newsgroup
>>> >> > so
>>> >> > all may benefit.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>>> > Helpful,
>>> >> > but
>>> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>>> >> >> > Word
>>> >> >> > newusers
>>> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
>>> >> >> > Microsoft).
>>> >> >> > The
>>> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
>> but
>>> >> > these
>>> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
>>> >> >> > we
>>> > are.
>>> >> > If
>>> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender
>> to
>>> > my
>>> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
>>> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> > right
>>> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
>> phone
>>> >> >> > numbers.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>>> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>> >> >> >> Read again!
>>> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>> >> >> >>> John
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
>>> >> >> >>>> do
>>> > that
>>> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
>> and
>>> > it
>>> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
(a) He had to be prompted to apologize and (b) he didn't apologize to Graham
directly but to me.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1VMqe.37844$x96.28874@attbi_s72...
> Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:
>
> "Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
> recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that basis
> alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging that.
It's
> not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well mannered as to
> apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."
>
> Richard
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
> > Moreover,
> > it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
> > Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
> > question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
> > place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
> > actually
> > rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
> >
> > --
> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> > Words into Type
> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
> > so
> > all may benefit.
> >
> > "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> > news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
> >> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply,
which
> > was
> >> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
response
> >> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
> > question
> >> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
> >> correctly saw as a reprimand.
> >>
> >> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
seek
> >> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
> > It
> >> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
And
> >> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response
#2.
> >>
> >> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
> >> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
> > "Noted."
> >>
> >> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
> >> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
> > proper
> >> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
for
> >> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> > Words into Type
> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> > newsgroup
> >> > so
> >> > all may benefit.
> >> >
> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
> >> >>
> >> >> That was very useful and it works!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
> >> > sender's
> >> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
> >> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
> >> >> > Words into Type
> >> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
> >> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> >> > newsgroup
> >> >> > so
> >> >> > all may benefit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> >> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
> >> > Helpful,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> rather a reprimand.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
> >> >> >> > Word
> >> >> >> > newusers
> >> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
Microsoft).
> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook
forum,
> > but
> >> >> > these
> >> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
> >> >> >> > we
> >> > are.
> >> >> > If
> >> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a
sender
> > to
> >> > my
> >> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > right
> >> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
> > phone
> >> >> >> > numbers.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
> >> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
> >> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
> >> >> >> >> Read again!
> >> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> >> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
> >> >> >> >>> John
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
> >> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
> >> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
do
> >> > that
> >> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
> > and
> >> > it
> >> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
> >> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

mpt
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Both.


"JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:I9edney-1u7FAjbfRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> Is the the "Be Nice" forum or the "Word" forum ????
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:1VMqe.37844$x96.28874@attbi_s72...
>> Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:
>>
>> "Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
>> recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that
>> basis alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging
>> that. It's not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well
>> mannered as to apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
>>> Moreover,
>>> it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
>>> Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
>>> question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
>>> place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
>>> actually
>>> rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> Words into Type
>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup so
>>> all may benefit.
>>>
>>> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>>>> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply,
>>>> which
>>> was
>>>> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
>>>> response
>>>> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
>>> question
>>>> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>>>> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
>>>> seek
>>>> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
>>> It
>>>> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
>>>> And
>>>> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response
>>>> #2.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>>>> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
>>> "Noted."
>>>>
>>>> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>>>> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
>>> proper
>>>> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
>>>> > for
>>>> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>> > Words into Type
>>>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup
>>>> > so
>>>> > all may benefit.
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>>> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That was very useful and it works!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>>>> > sender's
>>>> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>> >> > Words into Type
>>>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>>> > newsgroup
>>>> >> > so
>>>> >> > all may benefit.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>>>> > Helpful,
>>>> >> > but
>>>> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>>>> >> >> > Word
>>>> >> >> > newusers
>>>> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
>>>> >> >> > Microsoft).
>>>> >> >> > The
>>>> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook
>>>> >> >> > forum,
>>> but
>>>> >> > these
>>>> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
>>>> >> >> > we
>>>> > are.
>>>> >> > If
>>>> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a
>>>> >> >> > sender
>>> to
>>>> > my
>>>> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
>>>> >> >> > to
>>>> >> >> > right
>>>> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
>>> phone
>>>> >> >> > numbers.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>>> >> >> >> Read again!
>>>> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>>> >> >> >>> John
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>>> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
>>>> >> >> >>>> do
>>>> > that
>>>> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
>>> and
>>>> > it
>>>> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>>> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Amedee Van Gasse
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
JR shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.newusers:

> Is the the "Be Nice" forum or the "Word" forum ????
> John

John,

It's the "Who wants to be added to my *plonk* file today" newsgroup.

PS: I don't "forum", I "newsgroup".
NetNews/UseNet/newsgroup people (the old generation) usually have a
very different attitude compared to web/forum people (the new
generation). When a forum is an interface to a newsgroup, you mix the
two groups together. So what essentially happened here was a generation
conflict.

As always: Your Mileage May Vary(tm).

PPS: When I'm talking about old, new, generations etc you must
interpret them as metaphores. I'm not talking about age, but about
familiarity with technology and its social implications. It's possible
to have a 28 year old person in the old generation (those who live by
RFC1855 et al) and a 50 year old person in the new generation (those
who think RFC means Royal Flying Corps or Rugby Football Club). That's
the fun thing about technology: it redefines social relations as we
know them, making interaction with others more interesting.

Hey, shouldn't some sociology student somewhere out there write his
paper on this subject?

--
Amedee Van Gasse

Shauna Kelly
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
> Hey, shouldn't some sociology student somewhere out there write his
> paper on this subject?

Don't think it hasn't been done! See, for example:
http://research.microsoft.com/research/pubs/view.aspx?type=Technical%20Report&id=500

http://research.microsoft.com/~jchayes/Papers/cluster.pdf

Shauna

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word


"Amedee Van Gasse" <nzrqrr.ina.tnffr@rztebhc.or> wrote in message
news:xn0e3g95haf3e0000@msnews.microsoft.com...
> JR shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.newusers:
>
>> Is the the "Be Nice" forum or the "Word" forum ????
>> John
>
> John,
>
> It's the "Who wants to be added to my *plonk* file today" newsgroup.
>
> PS: I don't "forum", I "newsgroup".
> NetNews/UseNet/newsgroup people (the old generation) usually have a
> very different attitude compared to web/forum people (the new
> generation). When a forum is an interface to a newsgroup, you mix the
> two groups together. So what essentially happened here was a generation
> conflict.
>
> As always: Your Mileage May Vary(tm).
>
> PPS: When I'm talking about old, new, generations etc you must
> interpret them as metaphores. I'm not talking about age, but about
> familiarity with technology and its social implications. It's possible
> to have a 28 year old person in the old generation (those who live by
> RFC1855 et al) and a 50 year old person in the new generation (those
> who think RFC means Royal Flying Corps or Rugby Football Club). That's
> the fun thing about technology: it redefines social relations as we
> know them, making interaction with others more interesting.
>

>
> --
> Amedee Van Gasse

Amedee Van Gasse
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Shauna Kelly shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.newusers:

> > Hey, shouldn't some sociology student somewhere out there write his
> > paper on this subject?
>
> Don't think it hasn't been done! See, for example:
> http://research.microsoft.com/research/pubs/view.aspx?type=Technical%2
> 0Report&id=500
>
> http://research.microsoft.com/~jchayes/Papers/cluster.pdf
>
> Shauna
>
> Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
> http://www.shaunakelly.com/word

Thank you!
It's good to know others share my opinion that technology strongly
influences behaviour.

--
Amedee Van Gasse

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Now, now, THAT is nonsense. Abusive and belligerent?
I posted a surprise and disappointment that there was no easy, intuitive way
to save addresses from e-mails received.

Ritter197

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
> Moreover,
> it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
> Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
> question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
> place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
> actually
> rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which
> was
>> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the response
>> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
> question
>> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>>
>> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who seek
>> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
> It
>> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment. And
>> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response #2.
>>
>> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
> "Noted."
>>
>> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
> proper
>> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham for
>> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>> >
>> > --
>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > Words into Type
>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> newsgroup
>> > so
>> > all may benefit.
>> >
>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>> >>
>> >> That was very useful and it works!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>> > sender's
>> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> > Words into Type
>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> > newsgroup
>> >> > so
>> >> > all may benefit.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>> > Helpful,
>> >> > but
>> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>> >> >> > Word
>> >> >> > newusers
>> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by Microsoft).
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
> but
>> >> > these
>> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
>> >> >> > we
>> > are.
>> >> > If
>> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender
> to
>> > my
>> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > right
>> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
> phone
>> >> >> > numbers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> >> >> >> Read again!
>> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> >> >> >>> John
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always do
>> > that
>> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
> and
>> > it
>> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Thanks Richard. It is a pity that in NG's some people are more interested in
finding something wrong with exact form than help.

"mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1VMqe.37844$x96.28874@attbi_s72...
> Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:
>
> "Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
> recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that basis
> alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging that.
> It's not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well mannered
> as to apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."
>
> Richard
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
>> Moreover,
>> it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
>> Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
>> question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
>> place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
>> actually
>> rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
>> so
>> all may benefit.
>>
>> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>>> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply, which
>> was
>>> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
>>> response
>>> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
>> question
>>> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>>> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>>>
>>> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
>>> seek
>>> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
>> It
>>> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
>>> And
>>> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response #2.
>>>
>>> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>>> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
>> "Noted."
>>>
>>> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>>> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
>> proper
>>> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
>>> > for
>>> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> > Words into Type
>>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> newsgroup
>>> > so
>>> > all may benefit.
>>> >
>>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>> >>
>>> >> That was very useful and it works!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>>> > sender's
>>> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> >> > Words into Type
>>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> > newsgroup
>>> >> > so
>>> >> > all may benefit.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>>> > Helpful,
>>> >> > but
>>> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>>> >> >> > Word
>>> >> >> > newusers
>>> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
>>> >> >> > Microsoft).
>>> >> >> > The
>>> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook forum,
>> but
>>> >> > these
>>> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
>>> >> >> > we
>>> > are.
>>> >> > If
>>> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a sender
>> to
>>> > my
>>> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
>>> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> > right
>>> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
>> phone
>>> >> >> > numbers.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>>> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>> >> >> >> Read again!
>>> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>> >> >> >>> John
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
>>> >> >> >>>> do
>>> > that
>>> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
>> and
>>> > it
>>> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Ritter197
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
I thanked you for the clear,easy to understand response by you.

I did not see that in Graham's response, but nevertheles apologized.

AND since this is a newsgroup, it is generally dicouraged to post individual
responses.

Now, can you stop. Suzanne and stick with HELPING !

That would be appreciated by many. I am sure.

Ritter197
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:urAKCKwbFHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> (a) He had to be prompted to apologize and (b) he didn't apologize to
> Graham
> directly but to me.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
> so
> all may benefit.
>
> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:1VMqe.37844$x96.28874@attbi_s72...
>> Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:
>>
>> "Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
>> recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that
>> basis
>> alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging that.
> It's
>> not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well mannered as
>> to
>> apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
>> > Moreover,
>> > it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
>> > Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
>> > question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the
>> > first
>> > place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
>> > actually
>> > rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> > Words into Type
>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
> newsgroup
>> > so
>> > all may benefit.
>> >
>> > "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> > news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>> >> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply,
> which
>> > was
>> >> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
> response
>> >> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
>> > question
>> >> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>> >> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>> >>
>> >> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
> seek
>> >> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of
>> >> frustration.
>> > It
>> >> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
> And
>> >> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response
> #2.
>> >>
>> >> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>> >> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
>> > "Noted."
>> >>
>> >> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>> >> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
>> > proper
>> >> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>> >>
>> >> Richard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
> for
>> >> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> > Words into Type
>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> > newsgroup
>> >> > so
>> >> > all may benefit.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That was very useful and it works!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>> >> > sender's
>> >> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> >> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> >> >> > Words into Type
>> >> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> >> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>> >> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>> >> > newsgroup
>> >> >> > so
>> >> >> > all may benefit.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>> >> > Helpful,
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>> >> >> >> > Word
>> >> >> >> > newusers
>> >> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
> Microsoft).
>> >> >> >> > The
>> >> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook
> forum,
>> > but
>> >> >> > these
>> >> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges
>> >> >> >> > than
>> >> >> >> > we
>> >> > are.
>> >> >> > If
>> >> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a
> sender
>> > to
>> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > right
>> >> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
>> > phone
>> >> >> >> > numbers.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>> >> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>> >> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>> >> >> >> >> Read again!
>> >> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>> >> >> >> >>> John
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>> >> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>> >> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
> do
>> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better"
>> >> >> >> >>>> system
>> > and
>> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>> >> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Amedee Van Gasse
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Shauna Kelly shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.newusers:

> > Hey, shouldn't some sociology student somewhere out there write his
> > paper on this subject?
>
> Don't think it hasn't been done! See, for example:
> http://research.microsoft.com/research/pubs/view.aspx?type=Technical%2
> 0Report&id=500
>
> http://research.microsoft.com/~jchayes/Papers/cluster.pdf

I read some, and my first reaction is:

<keanu>
Whoa!
</keanu>

The weird thing is, I understand most of it... which I don't
understand... *boggle*

--
Amedee Van Gasse

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
My impression, though, was that most of the incivility here was coming in by
way of Usenet and almost certainly from the orphaned (and deprecated)
microsoft.public.word.general. By "here" I meant "in this thread," but when
I switched to "Show All Messages," I was surprised to discover that "this
thread" was not the one I thought it was, but the comment still applies:
note that none of the participants are @discussions.com.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Amedee Van Gasse" <nzrqrr.ina.tnffr@rztebhc.or> wrote in message
news:xn0e3g95haf3e0000@msnews.microsoft.com...
> JR shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.newusers:
>
> > Is the the "Be Nice" forum or the "Word" forum ????
> > John
>
> John,
>
> It's the "Who wants to be added to my *plonk* file today" newsgroup.
>
> PS: I don't "forum", I "newsgroup".
> NetNews/UseNet/newsgroup people (the old generation) usually have a
> very different attitude compared to web/forum people (the new
> generation). When a forum is an interface to a newsgroup, you mix the
> two groups together. So what essentially happened here was a generation
> conflict.
>
> As always: Your Mileage May Vary(tm).
>
> PPS: When I'm talking about old, new, generations etc you must
> interpret them as metaphores. I'm not talking about age, but about
> familiarity with technology and its social implications. It's possible
> to have a 28 year old person in the old generation (those who live by
> RFC1855 et al) and a 50 year old person in the new generation (those
> who think RFC means Royal Flying Corps or Rugby Football Club). That's
> the fun thing about technology: it redefines social relations as we
> know them, making interaction with others more interesting.
>
> Hey, shouldn't some sociology student somewhere out there write his
> paper on this subject?
>
> --
> Amedee Van Gasse

TF
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
I'm a bit late on this thread; but if you open a received email, you can
right-click on the From 'displayname' and select Add to Outlook Contacts.
That seems pretty easy and intuitive to an aged silver surfer like me. The
last automation I would want is to have a sender's address added
automatically to contacts - think how may SPAM addresses there would be by
now!

BTW. There is no microsoft.public.word.general and hasn't be for at least 5
years.

--
Terry Farrell - Word MVP
http://word.mvps.org/

"Ritter197" <Ritter197@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:D9adncN8IOv8HzDfRVn-rg@comcast.com...
: Now, now, THAT is nonsense. Abusive and belligerent?
: I posted a surprise and disappointment that there was no easy, intuitive
way
: to save addresses from e-mails received.
:
: Ritter197
:
: "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
: news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: > What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
: > Moreover,
: > it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
: > Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
: > question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
: > place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
: > actually
: > rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
: >
: > --
: > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > Words into Type
: > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
: > so
: > all may benefit.
: >
: > "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
: > news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
: >> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply,
which
: > was
: >> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
response
: >> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
: > question
: >> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
: >> correctly saw as a reprimand.
: >>
: >> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
seek
: >> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
: > It
: >> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
And
: >> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response
#2.
: >>
: >> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
: >> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
: > "Noted."
: >>
: >> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
: >> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
: > proper
: >> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
: >>
: >> Richard
: >>
: >>
: >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
: >> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
: >> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
for
: >> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
: >> >
: >> > --
: >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: >> > Words into Type
: >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
: > newsgroup
: >> > so
: >> > all may benefit.
: >> >
: >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
: >> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: >> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
: >> >>
: >> >> That was very useful and it works!
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
: >> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: >> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
: >> > sender's
: >> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
: >> >> >
: >> >> > --
: >> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: >> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: >> >> > Words into Type
: >> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: >> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
: >> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
: >> > newsgroup
: >> >> > so
: >> >> > all may benefit.
: >> >> >
: >> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
: >> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
: >> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
: >> > Helpful,
: >> >> > but
: >> >> >> rather a reprimand.
: >> >> >>
: >> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
: >> >> >>
: >> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
: >> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
: >> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
: >> >> >> > Word
: >> >> >> > newusers
: >> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
Microsoft).
: >> >> >> > The
: >> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook
forum,
: > but
: >> >> > these
: >> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
: >> >> >> > we
: >> > are.
: >> >> > If
: >> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a
sender
: > to
: >> > my
: >> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
: >> >> >> > to
: >> >> >> > right
: >> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
: > phone
: >> >> >> > numbers.
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> > --
: >> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
: >> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
: >> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
: >> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
: >> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
: >> >> >> >> Read again!
: >> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
: >> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
: >> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
: >> >> >> >>> John
: >> >> >> >>>
: >> >> >> >>>
: >> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
: >> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
: >> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
: >> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
do
: >> > that
: >> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
: > and
: >> > it
: >> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
: >> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >> >
: >> >> >>
: >> >> >>
: >> >> >
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >> >
: >>
: >>
: >
:
:

mpt
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
My pleasure.

Richard

"Ritter197" <Ritter197@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:-tqdndYcpvolHzDfRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
> Thanks Richard. It is a pity that in NG's some people are more interested
> in finding something wrong with exact form than help.
>
> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:1VMqe.37844$x96.28874@attbi_s72...
>> Here's something you could add at the end of your rant:
>>
>> "Even if I don't know the meaning of 'belligerent' or 'abusive,' I do
>> recognize that Mr. Ritter197 made a very decent apology and, on that
>> basis alone, Mr. Mayor should have been more gracious in acknowledging
>> that. It's not often in the world that people are so pleasant and well
>> mannered as to apologize in a straightforward manner for their errors."
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eht6PIvbFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> What question? Ritter197 did not ask a question. He posted a rant.
>>> Moreover,
>>> it was irrelevant to Word because the address book is the province of
>>> Outlook, as both JR and Graham pointed out, suggesting that he post a
>>> question in an Outlook NG. Given that there was no question in the first
>>> place and that Ritter197's post was belligerent and abusive, it was
>>> actually
>>> rather gracious of Graham to provide an answer at all.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>> Words into Type
>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>> Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>> Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup so
>>> all may benefit.
>>>
>>> "mpt" <mpt@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:QDLqe.37715$x96.17387@attbi_s72...
>>>> Mr. Graham could perhaps apologize to Mr. Ritter197 for his reply,
>>>> which
>>> was
>>>> condescending and sarcastic. Mr. Ritter197 was correct that the
>>>> response
>>>> was unhelpful. The fact that there was a backhanded answer to his
>>> question
>>>> does not negate the fact that it was preceded by the language that he
>>>> correctly saw as a reprimand.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Ritter197 stated his issue in a mere 57 words and, like many who
>>>> seek
>>>> help in this forum, he was somewhere along the spectrum of frustration.
>>> It
>>>> would have cost nothing to have supplied the answer without comment.
>>>> And
>>>> this ever-lenthening thread could have been truncated after response
>>>> #2.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention the fact that Mr. Ritter197 made a sincere, polite, and
>>>> unqualified apology to Mr. Graham whose response was an ungracious,
>>> "Noted."
>>>>
>>>> Here's a suggested response for Mr. Graham, "It was gracious of you to
>>>> apologize, despite my own sarcasm and condescension, and I owe you a
>>> proper
>>>> acknowledgement of your apology, which I hope this is."
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:eiTt8XfbFHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> > In that case, I believe you need to go back and apologize to Graham
>>>> > for
>>>> > saying, "Your response was not Helpful."
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>> > Words into Type
>>>> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>>> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>> newsgroup
>>>> > so
>>>> > all may benefit.
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> > news:6cadndzc98PhSzTfRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>>> >> Thank you, Suzanne.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That was very useful and it works!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:%23XeaxVWbFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> > Did you not see the last part of Graham's post: "right click the
>>>> > sender's
>>>> >> > name in the message and select add or edit phone numbers"?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > Suzanne S. Barnhill
>>>> >> > Microsoft MVP (Word)
>>>> >> > Words into Type
>>>> >> > Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>>> >> > Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
>>>> >> > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
>>>> > newsgroup
>>>> >> > so
>>>> >> > all may benefit.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> > news:2pidnffuC5UTfDXfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>> >> >> I think you understood what I was asking. Your response was not
>>>> > Helpful,
>>>> >> > but
>>>> >> >> rather a reprimand.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> So CAN you answer positively? I would welcome that.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor@DELETECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> news:uKEwAdKbFHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> >> > The newsgroup titles indicate the content. You have posted to
>>>> >> >> > Word
>>>> >> >> > newusers
>>>> >> >> > and Word general (an orphan group no longer hosted by
>>>> >> >> > Microsoft).
>>>> >> >> > The
>>>> >> >> > correct forum for your whinge would have been the Outlook
>>>> >> >> > forum,
>>> but
>>>> >> > these
>>>> >> >> > are peer groups and they are no more interested in whinges than
>>>> >> >> > we
>>>> > are.
>>>> >> > If
>>>> >> >> > you have a constructive question, such as 'how do I add a
>>>> >> >> > sender
>>> to
>>>> > my
>>>> >> >> > Outlook's contact list' then ask it - and someone will tell you
>>>> >> >> > to
>>>> >> >> > right
>>>> >> >> > click the sender's name in the message and select add or edit
>>> phone
>>>> >> >> > numbers.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> >> >> > Graham Mayor - Word MVP
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > My web site www.gmayor.com
>>>> >> >> > Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org
>>>> >> >> > <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Ritter197 wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> Well well. Is WORD not part of Office????
>>>> >> >> >> Read again!
>>>> >> >> >> "JR" <onejmATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> >> news:VOWdnZ0mVNKQBDrfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>> >> >> >>> This is WORD, not Outlook. Take your gripes there !
>>>> >> >> >>> John
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> "Ritter197" <Ritter197@Comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> >>> news:g_Sdndtx48pJETrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>> >> >> >>>> I use MS Office 2003 and am appalled that I cannot store
>>>> >> >> >>>> automatically e-mail addresses from senders. I could always
>>>> >> >> >>>> do
>>>> > that
>>>> >> >> >>>> in OE, every version. Here I pay a lot for a "better" system
>>> and
>>>> > it
>>>> >> >> >>>> cannot even capture e-mail addresses?
>>>> >> >> >>>> But I can BUY it for $ 15 - 20, what a joke! And insult!
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Amedee Van Gasse
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
microsoft.public.word.newusers:

> My impression, though, was that most of the incivility here was
> coming in by way of Usenet and almost certainly from the orphaned
> (and deprecated) microsoft.public.word.general. By "here" I meant "in
> this thread," but when I switched to "Show All Messages," I was
> surprised to discover that "this thread" was not the one I thought it
> was, but the comment still applies: note that none of the
> participants are @discussions.com.

Indeed, you ARE correct!
In this case... for every rule there are exceptions.

My personal observation is that in most other cases the incivility
comes from "relatively new" users (more than 1 year but less than 5
years of internet usage), and there is a higher probability for a "new
user" to be on a forum, not on usenet.

--
Amedee Van Gasse

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
I'm not so sure. The new users who come in via the forums may be ignorant of
Netiquette and totally clueless about how to ask questions, and they are
often very frustrated with Word by the time they arrive here, but for the
most part they are fairly timid and don't become generally abusive (if only
because they have so much trouble finding a specific thread again that they
don't hang around long enough). Where I see the highest level of incivility
is in threads in which the Word NGs are infected by cross-posting to NGs in
other product areas (where the level of civility is evidently not as high)
and especially to actual Usenet NGs (ones not on the msnews server), where a
more rough-and-ready posting style apparently obtains.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Amedee Van Gasse" <nzrqrr.ina.tnffr@rztebhc.or> wrote in message
news:xn0e3hgcpcxxv000@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
> microsoft.public.word.newusers:
>
> > My impression, though, was that most of the incivility here was
> > coming in by way of Usenet and almost certainly from the orphaned
> > (and deprecated) microsoft.public.word.general. By "here" I meant "in
> > this thread," but when I switched to "Show All Messages," I was
> > surprised to discover that "this thread" was not the one I thought it
> > was, but the comment still applies: note that none of the
> > participants are @discussions.com.
>
> Indeed, you ARE correct!
> In this case... for every rule there are exceptions.
>
> My personal observation is that in most other cases the incivility
> comes from "relatively new" users (more than 1 year but less than 5
> years of internet usage), and there is a higher probability for a "new
> user" to be on a forum, not on usenet.
>
> --
> Amedee Van Gasse

Amedee Van Gasse
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
microsoft.public.word.newusers:

> especially to actual Usenet NGs (ones not on the msnews
> server), where a more rough-and-ready posting style apparently
> obtains.

You mean a "hit-and-run" posting style.
At home I have my default "don't feed this troll" message, with some
nice ASCII art. ;-)

Anyway your observation may be right in the case of the Microsoft
newsgroups.
Forum users over here may be ignorant and clueless (some, not all) but
don't stick around, because of the specific nature and sheer volume of
messages.

On the other hand, I have seen other forums (like the user forum of my
ISP) where the opposite is true: the newbies do stick around, and the
worst part of the year is when high school and college students have
their exams (=now). One might wonder if they shouldn't study...

--
Amedee Van Gasse

Suzanne S. Barnhill
07-10-2005, 12:03 AM
We have had a number of obviously student-type (or student-age) posters in
some of these NGs for a time. Even when they aren't rude, arrogant
know-it-alls, they often "helpfully" post dozens of inaccurate, incomplete,
or just plain wrong answers before they move on. Aside from posting the
correct answer in parallel, about all you can do is hold your breath and
bite your tongue till they move on.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Amedee Van Gasse" <nzrqrr.ina.tnffr@rztebhc.or> wrote in message
news:xn0e3htcmi0rpi000@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
> microsoft.public.word.newusers:
>
> > especially to actual Usenet NGs (ones not on the msnews
> > server), where a more rough-and-ready posting style apparently
> > obtains.
>
> You mean a "hit-and-run" posting style.
> At home I have my default "don't feed this troll" message, with some
> nice ASCII art. ;-)
>
> Anyway your observation may be right in the case of the Microsoft
> newsgroups.
> Forum users over here may be ignorant and clueless (some, not all) but
> don't stick around, because of the specific nature and sheer volume of
> messages.
>
> On the other hand, I have seen other forums (like the user forum of my
> ISP) where the opposite is true: the newbies do stick around, and the
> worst part of the year is when high school and college students have
> their exams (=now). One might wonder if they shouldn't study...
>
> --
> Amedee Van Gasse


Adresses can not be AUTOMATICALLY retained?