What Virus Program Do You Use



boaz
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Hi,

My last attemp to figure out which virus program to use seems to be a
failure. It ends up way off the topic. And I have been thinking about what
the problem was. After couple hours, I've finally realized that I was
asking the wrong question for my problem. My mistake is to ask "Which virus
program to use?" Well... this is a dumb question. The answer is simply "It
depends". Interestingly, this is what I got from my last post.

So, to start from squre one, I will ask a very different question for the
same problem. I hope this time you guys can help me out better.

I am in a process of getting a virus program.
So, what virus program do you guys use?






So far, Jim suggested AVAST, and Dave suggested AVG. The major reason seems
to be because they are free.


--
> There is no answer.
> There has not been an answer.
> There will not be an answer.
> That IS the answer!
> And I am screwed.
> Deadline was due yesterday.
>
> There is no point to life.
> THAT IS THE POINT.
> And we are screwed.
> Bush uses up all our oil.

MAP
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
NOD32
http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm

--
Mike Pawlak

boaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My last attemp to figure out which virus program to use seems to be a
> failure. It ends up way off the topic. And I have been thinking
> about what the problem was. After couple hours, I've finally
> realized that I was asking the wrong question for my problem. My
> mistake is to ask "Which virus program to use?" Well... this is a
> dumb question. The answer is simply "It depends". Interestingly,
> this is what I got from my last post.
>
> So, to start from squre one, I will ask a very different question for
> the same problem. I hope this time you guys can help me out better.
>
> I am in a process of getting a virus program.
> So, what virus program do you guys use?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So far, Jim suggested AVAST, and Dave suggested AVG. The major
> reason seems to be because they are free.
>
>
>> There is no answer.
>> There has not been an answer.
>> There will not be an answer.
>> That IS the answer!
>> And I am screwed.
>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>
>> There is no point to life.
>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>> And we are screwed.
>> Bush uses up all our oil.

boaz
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Hi Mike,

I downloaded the manual from their web site. It looked awfully complicated
to set up the program.
What part of NOD32 do you like?


"MAP" <mikepawlak2REM@OVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OtvZeHNfFHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> NOD32
> http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm
>
>>
>>> There is no answer.
>>> There has not been an answer.
>>> There will not be an answer.
>>> That IS the answer!
>>> And I am screwed.
>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>
>>> There is no point to life.
>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>> And we are screwed.
>>> Bush uses up all our oil.
>
>
>

Chek
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
I use AVG Free Edition, and have done for years.
In 8 years I think I've found 2 virus infections - and one
was that Haunted PC
which my daughter loved (when she was about, like 9).

I would also run a free online scan from Trend or Panda once
a month
as a double check, but lately I 'll use Dave Lipman's
Cleanbat scripts for
Macafee and Trend. which have the advantage of being able to
run in safe mode.

I also have friends who use AVG, and some of them repeatedly
get infections of one type or another.
I believe it's more down to user sense - even the best
re-active software won't have today's virus sig. till
tomorrow.

At work we use Norton, which I have always found to be way
too big a drag on system resources
and difficult to reconfigure or remove.

My advice is to get the best security you can, but act like
you have none.

Chek

Change' boos' to 'bos' in address to email directly


"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uz8ly6MfFHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> My last attemp to figure out which virus program to use
> seems to be a failure. It ends up way off the topic. And
> I have been thinking about what the problem was. After
> couple hours, I've finally realized that I was asking the
> wrong question for my problem. My mistake is to ask
> "Which virus program to use?" Well... this is a dumb
> question. The answer is simply "It depends".
> Interestingly, this is what I got from my last post.
>
> So, to start from squre one, I will ask a very different
> question for the same problem. I hope this time you guys
> can help me out better.
>
> I am in a process of getting a virus program.
> So, what virus program do you guys use?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So far, Jim suggested AVAST, and Dave suggested AVG. The
> major reason seems to be because they are free.
>
>
> --
>> There is no answer.
>> There has not been an answer.
>> There will not be an answer.
>> That IS the answer!
>> And I am screwed.
>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>
>> There is no point to life.
>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>> And we are screwed.
>> Bush uses up all our oil.
>
>

roberto
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
I agree with Chek... i also use AVG but the best AV software can do nothing
if u act like an "amateur".

Last month some dumb here on my office restart one Pc with the floppydisk
inside...it was infected with a masterboot virus and when the AVG warned him
about this virus, the dumb ignoren the warning.

I hope that u know what Chek and I are telling u...and my last
advice....dont trust on everything u see on Internet....a lot of the pages
are a potencial danger to ur Pc. So be smart and be sure when u r going to
click the Accepts, Ok, Install and a lot of pop up messages like those ones.

Robert
CUBA


"Chek" <chek_16@hootmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:#LkmiUOfFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I use AVG Free Edition, and have done for years.
> In 8 years I think I've found 2 virus infections - and one
> was that Haunted PC
> which my daughter loved (when she was about, like 9).
>
> I would also run a free online scan from Trend or Panda once
> a month
> as a double check, but lately I 'll use Dave Lipman's
> Cleanbat scripts for
> Macafee and Trend. which have the advantage of being able to
> run in safe mode.
>
> I also have friends who use AVG, and some of them repeatedly
> get infections of one type or another.
> I believe it's more down to user sense - even the best
> re-active software won't have today's virus sig. till
> tomorrow.
>
> At work we use Norton, which I have always found to be way
> too big a drag on system resources
> and difficult to reconfigure or remove.
>
> My advice is to get the best security you can, but act like
> you have none.
>
> Chek
>
> Change' boos' to 'bos' in address to email directly
>
>
> "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uz8ly6MfFHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> >
> > My last attemp to figure out which virus program to use
> > seems to be a failure. It ends up way off the topic. And
> > I have been thinking about what the problem was. After
> > couple hours, I've finally realized that I was asking the
> > wrong question for my problem. My mistake is to ask
> > "Which virus program to use?" Well... this is a dumb
> > question. The answer is simply "It depends".
> > Interestingly, this is what I got from my last post.
> >
> > So, to start from squre one, I will ask a very different
> > question for the same problem. I hope this time you guys
> > can help me out better.
> >
> > I am in a process of getting a virus program.
> > So, what virus program do you guys use?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So far, Jim suggested AVAST, and Dave suggested AVG. The
> > major reason seems to be because they are free.
> >
> >
> > --
> >> There is no answer.
> >> There has not been an answer.
> >> There will not be an answer.
> >> That IS the answer!
> >> And I am screwed.
> >> Deadline was due yesterday.
> >>
> >> There is no point to life.
> >> THAT IS THE POINT.
> >> And we are screwed.
> >> Bush uses up all our oil.
> >
> >
>
>

FredW
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
boaz laid this down on his screen :
> After serious thinking MAP wrote :
>> boaz wrote:
>>>
>>> I am in a process of getting a virus program.
>>> So, what virus program do you guys use?
>>
>> NOD32
>> http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm
>
> I downloaded the manual from their web site. It looked awfully complicated
> to set up the program.
> What part of NOD32 do you like?

After reading many, many months in alt.comp.anit-virus and
alt.comp.virus,
I decided to try NOD32, the trial version can be downloaded here:
http://www.nod32.com/download/trial.htm
(before reading in these newsgroups, I had never heard of NOD32.)

It has a "small footprint" (whatever that means) and is quietly working
in the background.
The updates are small (< 200 k) and my NOD32 checks every hour for
updates.

You download NOD32, install it and then it starts working.
After installing, you can find "extra settings for NOD32, version 2.5"
here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509
It will take you some minutes to follow the instructions.

I did this for my trial version and after the trial I bought a copy.
I also bought a copy for a relative in New Zealand, as she had problems
with
Norton (same problems I had) and couldn't get on terms with AVG and
Avast.
(I paid here (NL) and sent the user-id and password to NZ).
Even my neighbour has now switched from McAfee to NOD32.

As a "second opinion" I have (free) AntiVir available for scanning.
http://www.free-av.com/

Why don't you try for yourself?

--
Groeten van WedFr(e) te A (Netherlands)

boaz
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
This is a good point. That's why I am thinking to get an antivirus
applicance. They all claim to stop "Network" virus and many other things.
I really don't know what they mean.

Do you use any of these hardware boxes?
What do you use?


"roberto" <ralplavner@HotPOP.com> wrote in message
news:%23767G3OfFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I agree with Chek... i also use AVG but the best AV software can do nothing
> if u act like an "amateur".
>
> Last month some dumb here on my office restart one Pc with the floppydisk
> inside...it was infected with a masterboot virus and when the AVG warned
> him
> about this virus, the dumb ignoren the warning.
>
> I hope that u know what Chek and I are telling u...and my last
> advice....dont trust on everything u see on Internet....a lot of the pages
> are a potencial danger to ur Pc. So be smart and be sure when u r going to
> click the Accepts, Ok, Install and a lot of pop up messages like those
> ones.
>
> Robert
> CUBA
>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >> There is no answer.
>> >> There has not been an answer.
>> >> There will not be an answer.
>> >> That IS the answer!
>> >> And I am screwed.
>> >> Deadline was due yesterday.
>> >>
>> >> There is no point to life.
>> >> THAT IS THE POINT.
>> >> And we are screwed.
>> >> Bush uses up all our oil.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

boaz
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Hi Fred,

How "quiet" is NOD32?

You know how "quiet" Norton is, don't you? You can tell it is running even
it is not doing anything. And boy! When it runs, it RUNS!!! Popping up
all kind of stuffs all over the screen.



"FredW" <fredw@ninmule.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> It has a "small footprint" (whatever that means) and is quietly working
> in the background.
> The updates are small (< 200 k) and my NOD32 checks every hour for
> updates.
>

MAP
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
It really is not that hard to set up but with all programs its best to read
the help files.

>How "quiet" is NOD32?

>You know how "quiet" Norton is, don't you? You can tell it is running even
>it is not doing anything. And boy! When it runs, it RUNS!!! Popping up
>all kind of stuffs all over the screen.

I don't evem know its there!
I could be running a full system scan (Which is much faster than Norton)
and at the same time surf or play a graphic intensive game with no troubles.

The only other A/V I would try would be
http://www.kaspersky.com/

I know many here recomend AVG,my belief is that you get what you pay for.
AVG 7 is better than earlier versions but what incentive do they have for
getting new definitions out? I have seen NOD32 update 3 times in one day,it
seems that they release new definitions has they happen instead of every
fews days or once a week as Norton did when I used that.

Download the 30 day trial and give it a shot
http://www.nod32.com/download/trial.htm
All of the important settings are set by default except for the unatended
scan.




boaz wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I downloaded the manual from their web site. It looked awfully
> complicated to set up the program.
> What part of NOD32 do you like?
>
>
> "MAP" <mikepawlak2REM@OVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OtvZeHNfFHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> NOD32
>> http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm
>>
>>>
>>>> There is no answer.
>>>> There has not been an answer.
>>>> There will not be an answer.
>>>> That IS the answer!
>>>> And I am screwed.
>>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> There is no point to life.
>>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>>> And we are screwed.
>>>> Bush uses up all our oil.

--
Mike Pawlak

FredW
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
boaz laid this down on his screen :
> Hi Fred,
>
> How "quiet" is NOD32?
>
> You know how "quiet" Norton is, don't you? You can tell it is running even
> it is not doing anything. And boy! When it runs, it RUNS!!! Popping up all
> kind of stuffs all over the screen.

It sits in the task bar, doing its work, and that's all you see.

With a left click the "control centre" pops up and I can see what is
done.
The only visible message given, is the announcement that an update
of the "virus signature database" was done.

Hmm, I chekced the statistics:
AMON scanned 288, 536 files.
DMON chekced 6 files (MS Office not used)
IMON chekced 4,267 files
Last update 29-6-05 20:53:17 (Dutch time)
Version of virus signature database: 1.1158 (20050629)

Yes, it is working and working fine.

----------
Log of latest scan (copied from the log):

Scan performed at: 28-6-05 16:00:09
Scanning Log
NOD32 version 1.1156 (20050628)
Operating memory - is OK

Date: 28.6.2005 Time: 16:00:16

Number of scanned files: 123214
Number of threats found: 0
Time of completion: 16:32:00 Total scanning time: 1904 sec (00:31:44)

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Dynamiek heeft niets met leeftijd te maken.
Loesje

boaz
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Hi Fred,

Let's say you are playing Counter Strike, and the message pops out. What
will happen?
I am using PC-cillin. When the message pops up, it pops me back to the
desktop with whatever resolution CS is running. And this usually happens
when I am kicking asses in the game. ;)


"FredW" <fredw@ninmule.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.f0187d56f66041c8.19318@ninmule.invalid...
> The only visible message given, is the announcement that an update
> of the "virus signature database" was done.
>

FredW
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
boaz formulated the question :
> "FredW" <fredw@ninmule.invalid> wrote in message
>
>> The only visible message given, is the announcement that an update
>> of the "virus signature database" was done.
>
> Let's say you are playing Counter Strike, and the message pops out. What
> will happen?
> I am using PC-cillin. When the message pops up, it pops me back to the
> desktop with whatever resolution CS is running. And this usually happens
> when I am kicking asses in the game. ;)

Sorry, I can not tell you, I never was in such a situation.
You can click on "OK" in the message and the message is gone.


All I can find in this respect is:
NOD32 System Tools / NOD32 System Setup
Setup / Advanced
- Automatically close message windows
- Close windows after ??? seconds.
The default value is 300 seconds.
The minimum value is 10 seconds.

But I suppose this will not really help you.


Hmm, I found something else.
You can switch off the "regular updates" (= hourly update):
NOD32 System Tools / Scheduler/planner
"Unclick" the regular automatic update before you start your game.
No (automatic) updates will take place.

Don't forget reactivate the update function after your game.
;-)

--
Groeten van WedFr(e) te A (NL)
Maak u regelmatig even geen zorgen.
Loesje

MAP
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
boaz wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>
> Let's say you are playing Counter Strike, and the message pops out.
> What will happen?
> I am using PC-cillin. When the message pops up, it pops me back to
> the desktop with whatever resolution CS is running. And this usually
> happens when I am kicking asses in the game. ;)
>
>
> "FredW" <fredw@ninmule.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.f0187d56f66041c8.19318@ninmule.invalid...
>> The only visible message given, is the announcement that an update
>> of the "virus signature database" was done.

The message does not steal focus,that is to say it pops under whatever
window is open,also in the configure options you can have this message not
appear.
--
Mike Pawlak

Carsten Book
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
boaz wrote:
> So far, Jim suggested AVAST, and Dave suggested AVG. The major reason seems
> to be because they are free.
>
>

I also suggest Avast, i`m using it since a year or so and i`m very happy
with it. Not only because it`s free, more about the Functions and
Detection Rate.

Carsten

nondisputandum
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:16:51 -0700, "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>My last attemp to figure out which virus program to use seems to be a
>failure. It ends up way off the topic. And I have been thinking about what
>the problem was. After couple hours, I've finally realized that I was
>asking the wrong question for my problem. My mistake is to ask "Which virus
>program to use?" Well... this is a dumb question. The answer is simply "It
>depends". Interestingly, this is what I got from my last post.
>
>So, to start from squre one, I will ask a very different question for the
>same problem. I hope this time you guys can help me out better.
>
>I am in a process of getting a virus program.
>So, what virus program do you guys use?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>So far, Jim suggested AVAST, and Dave suggested AVG. The major reason seems
>to be because they are free.

Perhaps ad the question: "& why".
I've used all the free scanners an it is my opinion that AGV, Avast &
AntiVir are the best. Well,.. just to say that difference is in
details.
Easy update, get AVG or Avast
Los resources, get AntiVir
Overal recognition: AVG & AntiVir, with Avast just behind. BUt that's
for all known virusses, in the wild it will make no difference.
Avast gave some problems at the last upgrade with ZoneLabs
Now I combine (as proposed) AVG with Kerio (firewall)
These 3 don't perform less than payware.
More at:
http://www.nondisputandum.com/html/anti_virus.html




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What Virus Program Do You Use