Which Virus Program To Get



boaz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi,

I was trying to search Google for this but it came back with too many posts.
I think I will ask this question here.

I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all the reviews have
both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus products. And I am
thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the megazines doesn't seem to
help 'cause those are just short term reviews.

And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself; but my wallet gets
tired already.

Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the spywares themselves.
Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products

So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show me
your pointer. Thanks!



--
> There is no answer.
> There has not been an answer.
> There will not be an answer.
> That IS the answer!
> And I am screwed.
> Deadline was due yesterday.
>
> There is no point to life.
> THAT IS THE POINT.
> And we are screwed.
> We will run out of oil soon.

Jim Macklin
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
try AVAST www.avast.com it is free, updates are quick and
easy, up to date.


--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OQZR7w2eFHA.2556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Hi,
|
| I was trying to search Google for this but it came back
with too many posts.
| I think I will ask this question here.
|
| I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all
the reviews have
| both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus
products. And I am
| thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the
megazines doesn't seem to
| help 'cause those are just short term reviews.
|
| And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself;
but my wallet gets
| tired already.
|
| Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the
spywares themselves.
| Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
| McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products
|
| So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you
guys please show me
| your pointer. Thanks!
|
|
|
| --
| > There is no answer.
| > There has not been an answer.
| > There will not be an answer.
| > That IS the answer!
| > And I am screwed.
| > Deadline was due yesterday.
| >
| > There is no point to life.
| > THAT IS THE POINT.
| > And we are screwed.
| > We will run out of oil soon.
|
|

Dave G
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Use AVG Free for home computer work great lasts. Google "Grisoft Free
Antivirus download"
"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OQZR7w2eFHA.2556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to search Google for this but it came back with too many
> posts.
> I think I will ask this question here.
>
> I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all the reviews have
> both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus products. And I
> am thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the megazines doesn't
> seem to help 'cause those are just short term reviews.
>
> And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself; but my wallet gets
> tired already.
>
> Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the spywares themselves.
> Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
> McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products
>
> So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show
> me your pointer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
>> There is no answer.
>> There has not been an answer.
>> There will not be an answer.
>> That IS the answer!
>> And I am screwed.
>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>
>> There is no point to life.
>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>> And we are screwed.
>> We will run out of oil soon.
>
>

What's in a Name?
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
boaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to search Google for this but it came back with too many posts.
> I think I will ask this question here.
>
> I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all the reviews have
> both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus products. And I am
> thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the megazines doesn't seem to
> help 'cause those are just short term reviews.
>
> And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself; but my wallet gets
> tired already.
>
> Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the spywares themselves.
> Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
> McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products
>
> So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show me
> your pointer. Thanks!
>
>
>
The best AV is an educated user. If you are going to pay for one you
should try NOD32. My ISP provides one for free-eTrust which is what I
use. It is a suite that includes PestPatrol and ZoneAlarm.
I used to use Avast which worked very well for me. I have written some
pages to help you keep your system clean.
http://home.neo.rr.com/manna4u/keepingclean.html
-max
--
Virus Removal Instructions: http://home.neo.rr.com/manna4u/
You can find my e-mail address on my pages.

Phil Weldon
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
'boaz' wrote, in part:
| So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show
me
| your pointer. Thanks!

_____

What have you been using? And how well has that been working? There is
something to be said for continuing with a familiar program that works well
and that you understand.

If you haven't been using antivirus protection and if you are connected to
the internet, your system is very likely already infected. That may
complicate installing an antivirus program.

Try this site for information on malware and the programs that combat it
http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html .

Though you should NOT run more than one antivirus program at a time, you
SHOULD use anti-spyware, anti-trojan, and anti-adware protection.

The free version of Grisoft AVG antivirus protection has a good reputation,
and is available for personal use at
http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1 .

SpyBot Search&Destroy has a good reputation, and is free for personal use at
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html .

AdAware by LavaSoft has a good reputatioin and is available free for
personal use at
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ .

At a minimum, you should immediately try to download, install, update
definitions, and use the three programs listed above. If your use is non
organizational, you can't do better than SpyBot Search&Destroy and AdAware
by LavaSoft. The free version of AVG is less flexible than the full
version, but offers protection that is as good as any.

There are at least six well respected publishers of antivirus software; any
of their antivirus software offers equivalent protections. The situation
with protections against other forms of malware (spyware, trojans,
adware...) is less clear.

Until you are ready to make a final decision, you should immediately
implement
Grisoft AVG (free version)
SpyBot Search&Destroy (free)
AdAware by LavaSoft (free version).

If you can't download, install, update, and run these programs, you are
already infected, and should post the symptoms here.

Phil Weldon

"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OQZR7w2eFHA.2556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to search Google for this but it came back with too many
> posts.
> I think I will ask this question here.
>
> I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all the reviews have
> both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus products. And I
> am thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the megazines doesn't
> seem to help 'cause those are just short term reviews.
>
> And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself; but my wallet gets
> tired already.
>
> Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the spywares themselves.
> Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
> McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products
>
> So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show
> me your pointer. Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
>> There is no answer.
>> There has not been an answer.
>> There will not be an answer.
>> That IS the answer!
>> And I am screwed.
>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>
>> There is no point to life.
>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>> And we are screwed.
>> We will run out of oil soon.
>
>

kreepz86
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
here take a look at the site below and you make up your mind.
http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=69&mnu=69






"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
news:WZ2we.12762$pa3.6750@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> 'boaz' wrote, in part:
> | So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please
> show me
> | your pointer. Thanks!
>
> _____
>
> What have you been using? And how well has that been working? There is
> something to be said for continuing with a familiar program that works
> well and that you understand.
>
> If you haven't been using antivirus protection and if you are connected to
> the internet, your system is very likely already infected. That may
> complicate installing an antivirus program.
>
> Try this site for information on malware and the programs that combat it
> http://www.claymania.com/nav-map.html .
>
> Though you should NOT run more than one antivirus program at a time, you
> SHOULD use anti-spyware, anti-trojan, and anti-adware protection.
>
> The free version of Grisoft AVG antivirus protection has a good
> reputation, and is available for personal use at
> http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1 .
>
> SpyBot Search&Destroy has a good reputation, and is free for personal use
> at
> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html .
>
> AdAware by LavaSoft has a good reputatioin and is available free for
> personal use at
> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ .
>
> At a minimum, you should immediately try to download, install, update
> definitions, and use the three programs listed above. If your use is non
> organizational, you can't do better than SpyBot Search&Destroy and AdAware
> by LavaSoft. The free version of AVG is less flexible than the full
> version, but offers protection that is as good as any.
>
> There are at least six well respected publishers of antivirus software;
> any of their antivirus software offers equivalent protections. The
> situation with protections against other forms of malware (spyware,
> trojans, adware...) is less clear.
>
> Until you are ready to make a final decision, you should immediately
> implement
> Grisoft AVG (free version)
> SpyBot Search&Destroy (free)
> AdAware by LavaSoft (free version).
>
> If you can't download, install, update, and run these programs, you are
> already infected, and should post the symptoms here.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OQZR7w2eFHA.2556@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was trying to search Google for this but it came back with too many
>> posts.
>> I think I will ask this question here.
>>
>> I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all the reviews have
>> both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus products. And I
>> am thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the megazines doesn't
>> seem to help 'cause those are just short term reviews.
>>
>> And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself; but my wallet
>> gets tired already.
>>
>> Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the spywares themselves.
>> Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
>> McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products
>>
>> So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show
>> me your pointer. Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>> There is no answer.
>>> There has not been an answer.
>>> There will not be an answer.
>>> That IS the answer!
>>> And I am screwed.
>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>
>>> There is no point to life.
>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>> And we are screwed.
>>> We will run out of oil soon.
>>
>>
>
>

bz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
thanks you guys for the suggestion.

So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.

"Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features, such
as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler interface.
But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection test and had seven
false positives, even the free version isn't worth the price."

Phil Weldon
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
'bz' wrote, in part:
| So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.

The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a day than
that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as protection against
viruses and other malware. The main thing is to get something in place as
soon as possible. Any delays while you bounce from one source to another is
much worse than choosing a slightly less than optimum program.

Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like "PC
Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.

Phil Weldon

"bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>
> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>
> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features, such
> as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler interface.
> But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection test and had seven
> false positives, even the free version isn't worth the price."
>
>
>

bz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
You have your point.

Now back to square one.


"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> 'bz' wrote, in part:
> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>
> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a day
> than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as protection
> against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to get something in
> place as soon as possible. Any delays while you bounce from one source to
> another is much worse than choosing a slightly less than optimum program.
>
> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like "PC
> Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>
>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>
>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features,
>> such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler
>> interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection test
>> and had seven false positives, even the free version isn't worth the
>> price."
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Phil Weldon
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
'bz' wrote:
| You have your point.
|
| Now back to square one.
|


_____

No, not back to square 1; if you have no anitvirus protection, go ahead and
download the Grisoft AVG free program. Install it along with Spybot
Search&Destroy and Adaware by LavaSoft. All three are free, and are give as
much or better protection than most of the paid choices. Once you've done
that, then take as long as you wish to compare programs. Malware protection
is something you need now.

I've been using antivirus programs since 1980. I used the free version of
AVG for several months on one system and was completely satisfied with the
protection it offered over that time. I've never seen it get other than
praise in this newsgroup. Once you've used it, then you'll have more of a
basis to evaluate other programs, and not have to rely on reports in
lightweight publications like "PC Magazine."

Phil Weldon

"bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OmBlBJ7eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You have your point.
>
> Now back to square one.
>
>
> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
> news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> 'bz' wrote, in part:
>> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>
>> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a day
>> than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as protection
>> against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to get something in
>> place as soon as possible. Any delays while you bounce from one source
>> to another is much worse than choosing a slightly less than optimum
>> program.
>>
>> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like "PC
>> Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>>
>> Phil Weldon
>>
>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>>
>>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>
>>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features,
>>> such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler
>>> interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection test
>>> and had seven false positives, even the free version isn't worth the
>>> price."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

boaz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi,

Do you have the manual or screenshot for AVG? Does it pop up all kind of
stuffs on the screen?
I am planning to give CA's eTrust (or trash... hehe) Antivirus a try. It is
free for one year from Microsoft.

My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all out
to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.

Do you have any experience with any of these security spplicances?
They cost from $300 to $3000.
$300 is not that bad if you have 2 or 3 computers in the house.


"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
news:ax7we.12878$pa3.5932@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> 'bz' wrote:
> | You have your point.
> |
> | Now back to square one.
> |
>
>
> _____
>
> No, not back to square 1; if you have no anitvirus protection, go ahead
> and download the Grisoft AVG free program. Install it along with Spybot
> Search&Destroy and Adaware by LavaSoft. All three are free, and are give
> as much or better protection than most of the paid choices. Once you've
> done that, then take as long as you wish to compare programs. Malware
> protection is something you need now.
>
> I've been using antivirus programs since 1980. I used the free version of
> AVG for several months on one system and was completely satisfied with the
> protection it offered over that time. I've never seen it get other than
> praise in this newsgroup. Once you've used it, then you'll have more of a
> basis to evaluate other programs, and not have to rely on reports in
> lightweight publications like "PC Magazine."
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OmBlBJ7eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> You have your point.
>>
>> Now back to square one.
>>
>>
>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>> 'bz' wrote, in part:
>>> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>
>>> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a day
>>> than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as protection
>>> against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to get something
>>> in place as soon as possible. Any delays while you bounce from one
>>> source to another is much worse than choosing a slightly less than
>>> optimum program.
>>>
>>> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like "PC
>>> Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>>>
>>> Phil Weldon
>>>
>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>
>>>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features,
>>>> such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler
>>>> interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection test
>>>> and had seven false positives, even the free version isn't worth the
>>>> price."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Phil Weldon
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
'boaz' wrote, in part:
| My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all out
| to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.

_____

My opinion is that you are trying to postpone any discision at all. By all
means spend whatever you want; it's your money.

But you came here for advice.

You haven't posted information about your current protection against
malware; what do you already have experience with?

You haven't posted any information about what you use your computers for,
who uses them, how careful about visiting strange websites or opening
strange email. You haven't posted any information about your ISP; does it
scan email for viruses?

You haven't posted any information about what you understand about infection
danger from the internet.
You haven't posted any information about who has access to your computers.
You haven't posted any information about how your computers are connected to
each other or to the internet.

A switch/router that does address translation is about all you need in terms
of hardware protection for a home system. A switch/router/wireless base
station can be purchased for about $10 after rebates. Wireless or wired
ethernet units for computers cost about the same. Any more just buys more
complication and functions you don't really need.

The problem with 'free for a year' or 'free for a month' is that you're
still left with a decision to make after you've already invested the time in
learning how to use a program you may not keep.

Go ahead and download Grisoft AVG free version, Spybot Search&Destroy, and
LavaSoft AdAware. Install, update, and use. Buy a switcher/router/wireless
base station. Install.

I've used all those products. I've used Norton Antivirus since 1980. I use
Norton Antivirus now.

Phil Weldon

"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ueVIq7AfFHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> Do you have the manual or screenshot for AVG? Does it pop up all kind of
> stuffs on the screen?
> I am planning to give CA's eTrust (or trash... hehe) Antivirus a try. It
> is free for one year from Microsoft.
>
> My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all out
> to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>
> Do you have any experience with any of these security spplicances?
> They cost from $300 to $3000.
> $300 is not that bad if you have 2 or 3 computers in the house.
>
>
> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
> news:ax7we.12878$pa3.5932@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> 'bz' wrote:
>> | You have your point.
>> |
>> | Now back to square one.
>> |
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> No, not back to square 1; if you have no anitvirus protection, go ahead
>> and download the Grisoft AVG free program. Install it along with Spybot
>> Search&Destroy and Adaware by LavaSoft. All three are free, and are give
>> as much or better protection than most of the paid choices. Once you've
>> done that, then take as long as you wish to compare programs. Malware
>> protection is something you need now.
>>
>> I've been using antivirus programs since 1980. I used the free version
>> of AVG for several months on one system and was completely satisfied with
>> the protection it offered over that time. I've never seen it get other
>> than praise in this newsgroup. Once you've used it, then you'll have
>> more of a basis to evaluate other programs, and not have to rely on
>> reports in lightweight publications like "PC Magazine."
>>
>> Phil Weldon
>>
>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:OmBlBJ7eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> You have your point.
>>>
>>> Now back to square one.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>> 'bz' wrote, in part:
>>>> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>
>>>> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a day
>>>> than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as protection
>>>> against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to get something
>>>> in place as soon as possible. Any delays while you bounce from one
>>>> source to another is much worse than choosing a slightly less than
>>>> optimum program.
>>>>
>>>> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like "PC
>>>> Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>>>>
>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>
>>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features,
>>>>> such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler
>>>>> interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection
>>>>> test and had seven false positives, even the free version isn't worth
>>>>> the price."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

boaz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
I have used:

Virus:
1) Norton Antivirus (2000,2001,2002,2003,Corperated Edition)
2) CA eTrust Antivirus
3) Trend Mirco's AntiVirus (2002,2004)
4) McAFee AntiVirus (98,2000)

Firewall:
1) Norton

Spyware:
1) Adaware
2) Spybot
3) Microsoft

Hardware:
1) Dlink, Netgear, Linksys, US Robotic
2) eSoft
3) Cisco

Spam:
1) ISP provided
2) I think the eSoft and the Cisco also do SPAM and Content Filtering.


I have 3 computers in my house. So, I figure... If I need to pay for all
the softwares for all my computers, I think it is better to get a all-in-one
hardware.

On the other hand, I have heard people are using the free softwares. If I
want all the free ones, better get ones that are easy to maintain and easy
to use.








"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
news:Chhwe.517$aY6.125@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> 'boaz' wrote, in part:
> | My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all
> out
> | to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>
> _____
>
> My opinion is that you are trying to postpone any discision at all. By
> all means spend whatever you want; it's your money.
>
> But you came here for advice.
>
> You haven't posted information about your current protection against
> malware; what do you already have experience with?
>
> You haven't posted any information about what you use your computers for,
> who uses them, how careful about visiting strange websites or opening
> strange email. You haven't posted any information about your ISP; does it
> scan email for viruses?
>
> You haven't posted any information about what you understand about
> infection danger from the internet.
> You haven't posted any information about who has access to your computers.
> You haven't posted any information about how your computers are connected
> to each other or to the internet.
>
> A switch/router that does address translation is about all you need in
> terms of hardware protection for a home system. A switch/router/wireless
> base station can be purchased for about $10 after rebates. Wireless or
> wired ethernet units for computers cost about the same. Any more just
> buys more complication and functions you don't really need.
>
> The problem with 'free for a year' or 'free for a month' is that you're
> still left with a decision to make after you've already invested the time
> in learning how to use a program you may not keep.
>
> Go ahead and download Grisoft AVG free version, Spybot Search&Destroy, and
> LavaSoft AdAware. Install, update, and use. Buy a
> switcher/router/wireless base station. Install.
>
> I've used all those products. I've used Norton Antivirus since 1980. I
> use Norton Antivirus now.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ueVIq7AfFHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do you have the manual or screenshot for AVG? Does it pop up all kind of
>> stuffs on the screen?
>> I am planning to give CA's eTrust (or trash... hehe) Antivirus a try. It
>> is free for one year from Microsoft.
>>
>> My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all
>> out to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>>
>> Do you have any experience with any of these security spplicances?
>> They cost from $300 to $3000.
>> $300 is not that bad if you have 2 or 3 computers in the house.
>>
>>
>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>> news:ax7we.12878$pa3.5932@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>> 'bz' wrote:
>>> | You have your point.
>>> |
>>> | Now back to square one.
>>> |
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No, not back to square 1; if you have no anitvirus protection, go ahead
>>> and download the Grisoft AVG free program. Install it along with Spybot
>>> Search&Destroy and Adaware by LavaSoft. All three are free, and are
>>> give as much or better protection than most of the paid choices. Once
>>> you've done that, then take as long as you wish to compare programs.
>>> Malware protection is something you need now.
>>>
>>> I've been using antivirus programs since 1980. I used the free version
>>> of AVG for several months on one system and was completely satisfied
>>> with the protection it offered over that time. I've never seen it get
>>> other than praise in this newsgroup. Once you've used it, then you'll
>>> have more of a basis to evaluate other programs, and not have to rely on
>>> reports in lightweight publications like "PC Magazine."
>>>
>>> Phil Weldon
>>>
>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OmBlBJ7eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> You have your point.
>>>>
>>>> Now back to square one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>> 'bz' wrote, in part:
>>>>> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a
>>>>> day than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as
>>>>> protection against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to
>>>>> get something in place as soon as possible. Any delays while you
>>>>> bounce from one source to another is much worse than choosing a
>>>>> slightly less than optimum program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like
>>>>> "PC Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>
>>>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some features,
>>>>>> such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has a simpler
>>>>>> interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus Detection
>>>>>> test and had seven false positives, even the free version isn't worth
>>>>>> the price."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kreepz86
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
I look at it like this, how much is your computer worth to you? I mean do
you backup often do you have all your desired software and programs saved on
CD's, personal pics, music, files,.etc saved? Do you mind reformatting
your hard drive and going through all the OS and driver installation?
Probably not. Me myself, my computer is worth a lot to me so I take as best
care of it as I can. I splurged and bought some decent and reliable A.V,
Spyware and Firewall programs and have yet to regret a single penny! This
is just how I feel.


"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ultFMVCfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I have used:
>
> Virus:
> 1) Norton Antivirus (2000,2001,2002,2003,Corperated Edition)
> 2) CA eTrust Antivirus
> 3) Trend Mirco's AntiVirus (2002,2004)
> 4) McAFee AntiVirus (98,2000)
>
> Firewall:
> 1) Norton
>
> Spyware:
> 1) Adaware
> 2) Spybot
> 3) Microsoft
>
> Hardware:
> 1) Dlink, Netgear, Linksys, US Robotic
> 2) eSoft
> 3) Cisco
>
> Spam:
> 1) ISP provided
> 2) I think the eSoft and the Cisco also do SPAM and Content Filtering.
>
>
> I have 3 computers in my house. So, I figure... If I need to pay for all
> the softwares for all my computers, I think it is better to get a
> all-in-one hardware.
>
> On the other hand, I have heard people are using the free softwares. If I
> want all the free ones, better get ones that are easy to maintain and easy
> to use.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
> news:Chhwe.517$aY6.125@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> 'boaz' wrote, in part:
>> | My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all
>> out
>> | to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>>
>> _____
>>
>> My opinion is that you are trying to postpone any discision at all. By
>> all means spend whatever you want; it's your money.
>>
>> But you came here for advice.
>>
>> You haven't posted information about your current protection against
>> malware; what do you already have experience with?
>>
>> You haven't posted any information about what you use your computers for,
>> who uses them, how careful about visiting strange websites or opening
>> strange email. You haven't posted any information about your ISP; does
>> it scan email for viruses?
>>
>> You haven't posted any information about what you understand about
>> infection danger from the internet.
>> You haven't posted any information about who has access to your
>> computers.
>> You haven't posted any information about how your computers are connected
>> to each other or to the internet.
>>
>> A switch/router that does address translation is about all you need in
>> terms of hardware protection for a home system. A switch/router/wireless
>> base station can be purchased for about $10 after rebates. Wireless or
>> wired ethernet units for computers cost about the same. Any more just
>> buys more complication and functions you don't really need.
>>
>> The problem with 'free for a year' or 'free for a month' is that you're
>> still left with a decision to make after you've already invested the time
>> in learning how to use a program you may not keep.
>>
>> Go ahead and download Grisoft AVG free version, Spybot Search&Destroy,
>> and LavaSoft AdAware. Install, update, and use. Buy a
>> switcher/router/wireless base station. Install.
>>
>> I've used all those products. I've used Norton Antivirus since 1980. I
>> use Norton Antivirus now.
>>
>> Phil Weldon
>>
>> "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueVIq7AfFHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Do you have the manual or screenshot for AVG? Does it pop up all kind
>>> of stuffs on the screen?
>>> I am planning to give CA's eTrust (or trash... hehe) Antivirus a try.
>>> It is free for one year from Microsoft.
>>>
>>> My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all
>>> out to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>>>
>>> Do you have any experience with any of these security spplicances?
>>> They cost from $300 to $3000.
>>> $300 is not that bad if you have 2 or 3 computers in the house.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ax7we.12878$pa3.5932@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>> 'bz' wrote:
>>>> | You have your point.
>>>> |
>>>> | Now back to square one.
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> No, not back to square 1; if you have no anitvirus protection, go ahead
>>>> and download the Grisoft AVG free program. Install it along with
>>>> Spybot Search&Destroy and Adaware by LavaSoft. All three are free, and
>>>> are give as much or better protection than most of the paid choices.
>>>> Once you've done that, then take as long as you wish to compare
>>>> programs. Malware protection is something you need now.
>>>>
>>>> I've been using antivirus programs since 1980. I used the free version
>>>> of AVG for several months on one system and was completely satisfied
>>>> with the protection it offered over that time. I've never seen it get
>>>> other than praise in this newsgroup. Once you've used it, then you'll
>>>> have more of a basis to evaluate other programs, and not have to rely
>>>> on reports in lightweight publications like "PC Magazine."
>>>>
>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>
>>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OmBlBJ7eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You have your point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now back to square one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>> 'bz' wrote, in part:
>>>>>> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a
>>>>>> day than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as
>>>>>> protection against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to
>>>>>> get something in place as soon as possible. Any delays while you
>>>>>> bounce from one source to another is much worse than choosing a
>>>>>> slightly less than optimum program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like
>>>>>> "PC Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some
>>>>>>> features, such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has
>>>>>>> a simpler interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus
>>>>>>> Detection test and had seven false positives, even the free version
>>>>>>> isn't worth the price."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

boaz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi,

> I splurged and bought some decent and reliable A.V, Spyware and Firewall
> programs and have yet to regret a single penny! This is just how I feel.

Yes, I am looking for something like that. So, what are you using? How
good are they?


"Kreepz86" <removethe_s_kreepz86@gsmail.com> wrote in message
news:eNr$zODfFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>I look at it like this, how much is your computer worth to you? I mean do
>you backup often do you have all your desired software and programs saved
>on CD's, personal pics, music, files,.etc saved? Do you mind reformatting
>your hard drive and going through all the OS and driver installation?
>Probably not. Me myself, my computer is worth a lot to me so I take as
>best care of it as I can. I splurged and bought some decent and reliable
>A.V, Spyware and Firewall programs and have yet to regret a single penny!
>This is just how I feel.
>

Phil Weldon
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
'boaz' wrote, in part:
| I have 3 computers in my house. So, I figure... If I need to pay for all
| the softwares for all my computers, I think it is better to get a
all-in-one
| hardware.
|
| On the other hand, I have heard people are using the free softwares. If I
| want all the free ones, better get ones that are easy to maintain and easy
| to use.

_____

Why don't you just buy everything that XO Communications offers as part of
your ISP service? That way you will be assured of support, and of spending
a large enough fee to make you feel comfortable.

Phil Weldon

>
"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ultFMVCfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I have used:
>
> Virus:
> 1) Norton Antivirus (2000,2001,2002,2003,Corperated Edition)
> 2) CA eTrust Antivirus
> 3) Trend Mirco's AntiVirus (2002,2004)
> 4) McAFee AntiVirus (98,2000)
>
> Firewall:
> 1) Norton
>
> Spyware:
> 1) Adaware
> 2) Spybot
> 3) Microsoft
>
> Hardware:
> 1) Dlink, Netgear, Linksys, US Robotic
> 2) eSoft
> 3) Cisco
>
> Spam:
> 1) ISP provided
> 2) I think the eSoft and the Cisco also do SPAM and Content Filtering.
>
>
> I have 3 computers in my house. So, I figure... If I need to pay for all
> the softwares for all my computers, I think it is better to get a
> all-in-one hardware.
>
> On the other hand, I have heard people are using the free softwares. If I
> want all the free ones, better get ones that are easy to maintain and easy
> to use.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
> news:Chhwe.517$aY6.125@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> 'boaz' wrote, in part:
>> | My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all
>> out
>> | to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>>
>> _____
>>
>> My opinion is that you are trying to postpone any discision at all. By
>> all means spend whatever you want; it's your money.
>>
>> But you came here for advice.
>>
>> You haven't posted information about your current protection against
>> malware; what do you already have experience with?
>>
>> You haven't posted any information about what you use your computers for,
>> who uses them, how careful about visiting strange websites or opening
>> strange email. You haven't posted any information about your ISP; does
>> it scan email for viruses?
>>
>> You haven't posted any information about what you understand about
>> infection danger from the internet.
>> You haven't posted any information about who has access to your
>> computers.
>> You haven't posted any information about how your computers are connected
>> to each other or to the internet.
>>
>> A switch/router that does address translation is about all you need in
>> terms of hardware protection for a home system. A switch/router/wireless
>> base station can be purchased for about $10 after rebates. Wireless or
>> wired ethernet units for computers cost about the same. Any more just
>> buys more complication and functions you don't really need.
>>
>> The problem with 'free for a year' or 'free for a month' is that you're
>> still left with a decision to make after you've already invested the time
>> in learning how to use a program you may not keep.
>>
>> Go ahead and download Grisoft AVG free version, Spybot Search&Destroy,
>> and LavaSoft AdAware. Install, update, and use. Buy a
>> switcher/router/wireless base station. Install.
>>
>> I've used all those products. I've used Norton Antivirus since 1980. I
>> use Norton Antivirus now.
>>
>> Phil Weldon
>>
>> "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueVIq7AfFHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Do you have the manual or screenshot for AVG? Does it pop up all kind
>>> of stuffs on the screen?
>>> I am planning to give CA's eTrust (or trash... hehe) Antivirus a try.
>>> It is free for one year from Microsoft.
>>>
>>> My plan is to either go cheap and get whatever that is free; or go all
>>> out to get a security applicance for a thoursand dollar.
>>>
>>> Do you have any experience with any of these security spplicances?
>>> They cost from $300 to $3000.
>>> $300 is not that bad if you have 2 or 3 computers in the house.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ax7we.12878$pa3.5932@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>> 'bz' wrote:
>>>> | You have your point.
>>>> |
>>>> | Now back to square one.
>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> No, not back to square 1; if you have no anitvirus protection, go ahead
>>>> and download the Grisoft AVG free program. Install it along with
>>>> Spybot Search&Destroy and Adaware by LavaSoft. All three are free, and
>>>> are give as much or better protection than most of the paid choices.
>>>> Once you've done that, then take as long as you wish to compare
>>>> programs. Malware protection is something you need now.
>>>>
>>>> I've been using antivirus programs since 1980. I used the free version
>>>> of AVG for several months on one system and was completely satisfied
>>>> with the protection it offered over that time. I've never seen it get
>>>> other than praise in this newsgroup. Once you've used it, then you'll
>>>> have more of a basis to evaluate other programs, and not have to rely
>>>> on reports in lightweight publications like "PC Magazine."
>>>>
>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>
>>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OmBlBJ7eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You have your point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now back to square one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:mX4we.271$aY6.45@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>> 'bz' wrote, in part:
>>>>>> | So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The information available through this newsgroup is worth more in a
>>>>>> day than that in "PC Magazine" in the last 10 years as far as
>>>>>> protection against viruses and other malware. The main thing is to
>>>>>> get something in place as soon as possible. Any delays while you
>>>>>> bounce from one source to another is much worse than choosing a
>>>>>> slightly less than optimum program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take anything you read in a general interest level publication like
>>>>>> "PC Magizine" with a large grain of skepticism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Weldon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OVmcd15eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> thanks you guys for the suggestion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I did some searching and found this comment from PC Megazine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Grisoft also offers AVG 6.0 Free Edition, which lacks some
>>>>>>> features, such as scan scheduling and product support, though it has
>>>>>>> a simpler interface. But since AVG missed six viruses on our Virus
>>>>>>> Detection test and had seven false positives, even the free version
>>>>>>> isn't worth the price."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

bz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi,

XO Antivirus program? Hmm... never heard of it. Is it something like AVG
that is from Europe?
Have you ever used their antivirus program? How good is the XO one compared
to AVG?


>
> Why don't you just buy everything that XO Communications offers as part of
> your ISP service? That way you will be assured of support, and of
> spending a large enough fee to make you feel comfortable.
>
> Phil Weldon
>

Phil Weldon
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
'bz' wrote, in part:
| XO Antivirus program? Hmm... never heard of it. Is it something like AVG
| that is from Europe?

XO Communications evidently supplies Internet access for the original
poster. Maybe the original poster would relax more with whatever by whoever
XO Communications provides.

Phil Weldon

"bz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OxxizuHfFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> XO Antivirus program? Hmm... never heard of it. Is it something like AVG
> that is from Europe?
> Have you ever used their antivirus program? How good is the XO one
> compared to AVG?
>
>
>>
>> Why don't you just buy everything that XO Communications offers as part
>> of your ISP service? That way you will be assured of support, and of
>> spending a large enough fee to make you feel comfortable.
>>
>> Phil Weldon
>>
>
>

boaz
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi,

Interesting report. But it doesn't say anything about how good they are.
For example,
Norton is among the top 10 in the list; but as you can read from all the
reviews from Amazon, nobody wants to use it.


"kreepz86" <remove s _kreepz86@gsmail.com> wrote in message
news:OO6JU74eFHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> here take a look at the site below and you make up your mind.
> http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=69&mnu=69
>
>

Kreepz86
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
I use Kaspersky antivirus with the "SuperSecure Database Option" for A.V
protection. I've never had any problems or complaints about it. I feel
pretty safe with it. Check it out, I put the link on the bottom. As for
the other programs, I use the ones mentioned here in this N.G. Ad-Aware &
Microsoft Antispyware for spyware there are a few others I would consider
and for firewall I use Zone Alarm. Most of all, just plain ol' safe
practice when dealing with files. I hope you find what you are looking for!


http://www.kaspersky.com/


"boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23xlXnWDfFHA.1044@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
>> I splurged and bought some decent and reliable A.V, Spyware and Firewall
>> programs and have yet to regret a single penny! This is just how I feel.
>
> Yes, I am looking for something like that. So, what are you using? How
> good are they?
>
>
> "Kreepz86" <removethe_s_kreepz86@gsmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eNr$zODfFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I look at it like this, how much is your computer worth to you? I mean do
>>you backup often do you have all your desired software and programs saved
>>on CD's, personal pics, music, files,.etc saved? Do you mind
>>reformatting your hard drive and going through all the OS and driver
>>installation? Probably not. Me myself, my computer is worth a lot to me
>>so I take as best care of it as I can. I splurged and bought some decent
>>and reliable A.V, Spyware and Firewall programs and have yet to regret a
>>single penny! This is just how I feel.
>>
>
>

Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
boaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was trying to search Google for this but it came back with too many posts.
> I think I will ask this question here.
>
> I have been reading the reviews from Amazon. Almost all the reviews have
> both 1 star and 5 stars for every one of these antivirus products. And I am
> thinking what da!!! Reading the reviews from the megazines doesn't seem to
> help 'cause those are just short term reviews.
>
> And I am thinking to try all of them to see for myself; but my wallet gets
> tired already.
>
> Norton - It takes over the computer like one of the spywares themselves.
> Trend Micro - Too many popup screens keep getting your way
> McAfee - Too many useless popup for its own products
>
> So, if this try-them-all thing have been done, would you guys please show me
> your pointer. Thanks!
>
>
>


You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will
responses.

I used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet
Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all
without any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that.
But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee
products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they
were acquired by Network Associates.

However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton
Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially
higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less
expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of
GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ) and the
free version of Sygate's Personal Firewall
(http://smb.sygate.com/free/default.php ). Both have proven to be
easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I
was pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable
improvement in my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec
product.


--

Bruce Chambers

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both at once. - RAH

Kay Knapp
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
AVG works well and it's FREE for personal use!

Kuw_Son
07-09-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi

Try to use Kaspersky anti-virus personal Pro. you can get their product from
this website http://www.kaspersky.com. i have tried it !! 4 thumps up
(including your toes). i will not give you a detailed review .. you can judge
by trying it


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