Keyloggers--Deteciting Them



W. Watson
07-09-2005, 10:48 PM
Probably keylogging is not a subject here, but I'll ask anyway. Maybe there's
another NG that deals with it.

My daughter seems to end up using computers that have keyloggers. Basically, she
has no computers and others loan her the use of theirs. This is troublesome. Are
there ways of detecting the presence of these loggers?
--
Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

"The easiest way to refold a road map is differently."
--Jones's Rule of the Road

Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>

David H. Lipman
07-09-2005, 10:48 PM
From: "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.inv>

| Probably keylogging is not a subject here, but I'll ask anyway. Maybe there's
| another NG that deals with it.
|
| My daughter seems to end up using computers that have keyloggers. Basically, she
| has no computers and others loan her the use of theirs. This is troublesome. Are
| there ways of detecting the presence of these loggers?
| --
| Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
| (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
| Obz Site: 39 15' 7" N, 121 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
|
| "The easiest way to refold a road map is differently."
| --Jones's Rule of the Road
|
| Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>

Good anto virus software will catch Keloggers. Leyloggers are a type of Malware. All "bad
software" are malware and there are two type. Viral malware and non-viral malware with
Trojans in both sub-classes.

On line scanners can find and/remove Keyloggers.


Trend Micro - Free online virus Scan
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
http://housecall.antivirus.com

McAfee Security - FreeScan
http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/mfs/default.asp

Panda ActiveScan - Free online scanner
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm

Computer Associates:
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx

DialogueScience:
http://www.antivir.ru/english/www_av/

F-Secure:
http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml

BitDefender
http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php

Freedom Online scanner
http://www.freedom.net/viruscenter/index.html

Kaspersky
http://www.kaspersky.com/service?chapter=161739400#betatest

Symantec
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

What's in a Name?
07-09-2005, 10:48 PM
W. Watson wrote:
> Probably keylogging is not a subject here, but I'll ask anyway. Maybe
> there's another NG that deals with it.
>
> My daughter seems to end up using computers that have keyloggers.
> Basically, she has no computers and others loan her the use of theirs.
> This is troublesome. Are there ways of detecting the presence of these
> loggers?

Along with good advice from David,there is also KL-Detector
http://dewasoft.com/privacy/kldetector.htm
-max

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This message is virus free as far as I can tell.

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
07-09-2005, 10:48 PM
Are they key loggers or just instant messengers that log 'chat'?..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:6kPle.1771$MI4.1401@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Probably keylogging is not a subject here, but I'll ask anyway. Maybe
> there's another NG that deals with it.
>
> My daughter seems to end up using computers that have keyloggers.
> Basically, she has no computers and others loan her the use of theirs.
> This is troublesome. Are there ways of detecting the presence of these
> loggers?
> --
> Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
> (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
> Obz Site: 39 15' 7" N, 121 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
>
> "The easiest way to refold a road map is differently."
> --Jones's Rule of the Road
>
> Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>

W. Watson
07-09-2005, 10:48 PM
David H. Lipman wrote:

> From: "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.inv>
>
> | Probably keylogging is not a subject here, but I'll ask anyway. Maybe there's
> | another NG that deals with it.
> |
> | My daughter seems to end up using computers that have keyloggers. Basically, she
> | has no computers and others loan her the use of theirs. This is troublesome. Are
> | there ways of detecting the presence of these loggers?
> | --
> | Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
> | (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
> | Obz Site: 39 15' 7" N, 121 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
> |
> | "The easiest way to refold a road map is differently."
> | --Jones's Rule of the Road
> |
> | Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>
>
> Good anto virus software will catch Keloggers. Leyloggers are a type of Malware. All "bad
> software" are malware and there are two type. Viral malware and non-viral malware with
> Trojans in both sub-classes.
>
> On line scanners can find and/remove Keyloggers.
>
>
> Trend Micro - Free online virus Scan
> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
> http://housecall.antivirus.com
>
> McAfee Security - FreeScan
> http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/mfs/default.asp
>
> Panda ActiveScan - Free online scanner
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm
>
> Computer Associates:
> http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
>
> DialogueScience:
> http://www.antivir.ru/english/www_av/
>
> F-Secure:
> http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml
>
> BitDefender
> http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php
>
> Freedom Online scanner
> http://www.freedom.net/viruscenter/index.html
>
> Kaspersky
> http://www.kaspersky.com/service?chapter=161739400#betatest
>
> Symantec
> http://securityresponse.symantec.com/
>
>
Apparently then the list you have provided are some online tools that will help
her. Is there a description somewhere that gives the pluses and minuses about
each of the above. To keep it somewhat simple for here, I'd probably suggest Mc
Afee I've been told that NAV does not detect KLs.

My daughter tells me of another oddity. She claims one computer she used made it
impossible to send e-mail from any account other than aol. How does this work?

I suppose someone could use keyloggers and the "aol restriction device" mentiond
above to protect their own computer than as a method to capture info from some
niave individual. It could be used to determine if someone is deliberately
misusing a computer. That would seem a bit weird though, especially if you
invited others to use it.

--
Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39 15' 7" N, 121 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

"The easiest way to refold a road map is differently."
--Jones's Rule of the Road

Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>

David H. Lipman
07-09-2005, 10:48 PM
From: "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.inv>


| Apparently then the list you have provided are some online tools that will help
| her. Is there a description somewhere that gives the pluses and minuses about
| each of the above. To keep it somewhat simple for here, I'd probably suggest Mc
| Afee I've been told that NAV does not detect KLs.
|
| My daughter tells me of another oddity. She claims one computer she used made it
| impossible to send e-mail from any account other than aol. How does this work?
|
| I suppose someone could use keyloggers and the "aol restriction device" mentiond
| above to protect their own computer than as a method to capture info from some
| niave individual. It could be used to determine if someone is deliberately
| misusing a computer. That would seem a bit weird though, especially if you
| invited others to use it.
|
| --
| Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)


There is no description -- Sorry.

They are all different using different methodologies, software and signatures.

The McAfee scanner detects but does not remove.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


Keyloggers--Deteciting Them