MS Antivirus suggestion



Rlange
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change. At
times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS Antispyware is
overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the program and clean
without aborting the scan it would be very helpful in the cleanup

Malke
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
Rlange wrote:

> MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change.
> At times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS
> Antispyware is overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the
> program and clean without aborting the scan it would be very helpful
> in the cleanup

I'm sure this is a very good suggestion. You should make it in one of
the newsgroups specifically set up for the Beta MSAS program so your
suggestion has some impact.

At this time, support for the beta version of Microsoft Windows
AntiSpyware is being provided through the following Microsoft
newsgroups:

- microsoft.private.security.spyware.announcements
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.general
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.networking
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.signatures
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.onlinecommunity

These newsgroups can be accessed via NNTP or HTTP. To access these
newsgroups using HTTP, please go to the following location:

http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?ICP=spyware&sLCID=us

To access these newsgroups using NNTP, please use the following
information for your NNTP client (such as Microsoft Outlook Express):

- NNTP Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
- Account name: privatenews\spyware
- Password: spyware

NOTE: No password will be required via the HTTP link.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

David H. Lipman
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
From: "Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com>

| MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change. At
| times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS Antispyware is
| overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the program and clean
| without aborting the scan it would be very helpful in the cleanup
|

Don't confuse yourself.

MS Anti Spyware is NOT Anti Virus software.

And since it is a Beta software -- What did you expect ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Bigbruva
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
As Malke suggests you should post this on the MWAS Beta newsgroups.

However if you are dealing with a highly infected computer you should always
boot into safe mode (Press F8 during startup) to do the first scan. This way
MWAS is able to clean without the vast majority of spyware being loaded in
the first place. Once the system has been cleaned MWAS is usually pretty
good at handling incoming spyware in normal operating mode.

BB

"Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B899DDAD-E8DD-4812-8FC3-ADE359145BE7@microsoft.com...
> MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change. At
> times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS Antispyware
> is
> overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the program and clean
> without aborting the scan it would be very helpful in the cleanup
>
>

Rlange
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
So I should call this a beta? MS buys Giant Antispyware. Slaps A MS
Antispyware logo on it and we have we have a new beta? You seem confused.

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

> From: "Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com>
>
> | MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change. At
> | times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS Antispyware is
> | overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the program and clean
> | without aborting the scan it would be very helpful in the cleanup
> |
>
> Don't confuse yourself.
>
> MS Anti Spyware is NOT Anti Virus software.
>
> And since it is a Beta software -- What did you expect ?
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>
>

Tom Pepper Willett
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
They did more than slap a new logo on it.

"Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C91402BD-4853-4A5F-9DFD-CA1152E41F2B@microsoft.com...
| So I should call this a beta? MS buys Giant Antispyware. Slaps A MS
| Antispyware logo on it and we have we have a new beta? You seem confused.
|
| "David H. Lipman" wrote:
|
| > From: "Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com>
| >
| > | MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change.
At
| > | times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS
Antispyware is
| > | overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the program and
clean
| > | without aborting the scan it would be very helpful in the cleanup
| > |
| >
| > Don't confuse yourself.
| >
| > MS Anti Spyware is NOT Anti Virus software.
| >
| > And since it is a Beta software -- What did you expect ?
| >
| > --
| > Dave
| > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
| > http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
| >
| >
| >

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
No, David is not confused.
Microsoft made many changes, most can be seen at the newsgroups he listed.
Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta has "Beta" in the name as listed by Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
It is in fact a Beta product
Among other things that means Microsoft is not yet confident in the product
and users should treat it accordingly.

Also, are you confusing Microsoft AntiSpyware with an anti virus?
They are completely different and both types of products as well as
firewall, updates etc are needed if you desire to protect your computer.

If your computer or any computer is "LOADED with spyware", in addition to
cleaning the computer, safer computing habits must be used if computer
security is important.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol
http://www.dts-l.org


"Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C91402BD-4853-4A5F-9DFD-CA1152E41F2B@microsoft.com...
> So I should call this a beta? MS buys Giant Antispyware. Slaps A MS
> Antispyware logo on it and we have we have a new beta? You seem confused.

David H. Lipman
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
From: "Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com>

| So I should call this a beta? MS buys Giant Antispyware. Slaps A MS
| Antispyware logo on it and we have we have a new beta? You seem confused.
|

Microsoft didn't call a Beta for no reason !

There were modifications to the code.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Rlange
07-09-2005, 11:48 PM
I did what Malke suggested and I typed MS antivirus by mistake as it was very
early in the am when i posted. I always boot into safemode for spyware
scans but most users do not know they should boot into safemode to do their
scans. I am aware of how to clean machines up but most avg users do not.
The suggestion I posted would help these users in cleaning up
their machines. I am sure MS is confident in their new spyware beta or they
would not have bought Giant. The changes made to the former Giant product are
much smaller than say a service pack to XP and we do not call their OS Win XP
Beta.
Don't get me wrong the moves MS made to combat spyware are commendable
and MS antispyware is a great tool to help us all. Just trying to help the
novice user.

"Bigbruva" wrote:

> As Malke suggests you should post this on the MWAS Beta newsgroups.
>
> However if you are dealing with a highly infected computer you should always
> boot into safe mode (Press F8 during startup) to do the first scan. This way
> MWAS is able to clean without the vast majority of spyware being loaded in
> the first place. Once the system has been cleaned MWAS is usually pretty
> good at handling incoming spyware in normal operating mode.
>
> BB
>
> "Rlange" <Rlange@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B899DDAD-E8DD-4812-8FC3-ADE359145BE7@microsoft.com...
> > MS Antispyware works well but could be improved by one simple change. At
> > times when cleaning a machine that is LOADED with spyware,MS Antispyware
> > is
> > overwhelmed and locks up. If users we able to stop the program and clean
> > without aborting the scan it would be very helpful in the cleanup
> >
> >
>
>
>


MS Antivirus suggestion