Hi Guys,
I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've assembled
and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it
will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just stop
functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus on popup
warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV program stop also.
I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because
it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!

Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.

Re partition. Re format.

"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi Guys,
> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've
> assembled
> and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
> win-xp ok BUT it
> will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
> stop
> functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to
> Reset and
> always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
> on popup
> warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
> program stop also.
> I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
> successful because
> it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>
> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>
>

[Ken Blake]

In news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
<<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:

> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement
> MoBo.
> I've assembled and returned everything and including my old
> BIOS
> setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it will not run continuously
> because
> hard drive LED stop. All program just stop functioning after
> few
> minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
> always
> did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse
> virus on
> popup warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive
> because AV program stop also. I also tried in Safe Mode to
> clean-up
> AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because it stop also.
> Oh
> Boy - I give up!
>
> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.


Is this motherboard identical to the original one? If not (and it
may not be even if it seems to be), you may need to do a repair
installation of Windows.

Read here:
"How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install"

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

YES! Ken,
My motherboard is identical to the original one. Every hardware and software are
identical and the same. Hope and Thanks it will not STOP on Repair Install.
Regards, --- Rino.


"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:O0Wvw6ofFHA.2444@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
In news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
<<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:

> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement
> MoBo.
> I've assembled and returned everything and including my old
> BIOS
> setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it will not run continuously
> because
> hard drive LED stop. All program just stop functioning after
> few
> minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
> always
> did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse
> virus on
> popup warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive
> because AV program stop also. I also tried in Safe Mode to
> clean-up
> AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because it stop also.
> Oh
> Boy - I give up!
>
> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.


Is this motherboard identical to the original one? If not (and it
may not be even if it seems to be), you may need to do a repair
installation of Windows.

Read here:
"How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install"

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

[John Thomas Smith]

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
<Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've assembled
>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it
>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just stop
>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus on popup
>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV program stop also.
>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because
>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.

Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink

An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

Hi John,
Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special heat
conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I did NOT minus
or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of heat sink and
fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.

I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is running OK.
My PC have 3 fans and no heating is observed.

I programmed in BIOS to shut down PC when reaching at very high temperature. I cannot
tell the actual temperature right now because it is shut down and idled. Thanks!


"John Thomas Smith" <jtsmith@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:jjibc1hc1te52asv3gck7l147b9s37trp2@4ax.com...
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
<Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've assembled
>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it
>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just stop
>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus on popup
>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV program stop
also.
>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful
because
>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.

Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink

An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

[Paul]

Can you go into your BIOS and see what your CPU temp is..........


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi John,
> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
> heat
> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
> did NOT minus
> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
> heat sink and
> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>
> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
> running OK.
>

Hi Paul,
CPU Warning Temperature is set at 63C/145F
and I actually did ACPI Shutdown Temp for Disable; or choose from 60C/140F to high of
95C/203F. Thanks!


"Paul" <wf1000xg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ecTY9gpfFHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Can you go into your BIOS and see what your CPU temp is..........


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi John,
> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
> heat
> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
> did NOT minus
> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
> heat sink and
> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>
> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
> running OK.
>

[Ken Blake]

In news:%232N%23hBpfFHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
<<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:

> YES! Ken,
> My motherboard is identical to the original one. Every hardware
> and
> software are identical and the same. Hope and Thanks it will
> not STOP
> on Repair Install. Regards, --- Rino.


If they are truly identical, a repair installation shouldn't be
necessary, and won't help. On the other hand it won't hurt
either, and it might be worth trying.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:O0Wvw6ofFHA.2444@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> In news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
> <<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:
>
>> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new
>> replacement
>> MoBo.
>> I've assembled and returned everything and including my old
>> BIOS
>> setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it will not run continuously
>> because
>> hard drive LED stop. All program just stop functioning after
>> few
>> minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
>> always
>> did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse
>> virus on
>> popup warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard
>> drive
>> because AV program stop also. I also tried in Safe Mode to
>> clean-up
>> AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because it stop
>> also.
>> Oh
>> Boy - I give up!
>>
>> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>
>
> Is this motherboard identical to the original one? If not (and
> it
> may not be even if it seems to be), you may need to do a repair
> installation of Windows.
>
> Read here:
> "How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install"
>
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Thanks!


"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:%23WHRRCqfFHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
In news:%232N%23hBpfFHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
<<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:

> YES! Ken,
> My motherboard is identical to the original one. Every hardware
> and
> software are identical and the same. Hope and Thanks it will
> not STOP
> on Repair Install. Regards, --- Rino.


If they are truly identical, a repair installation shouldn't be
necessary, and won't help. On the other hand it won't hurt
either, and it might be worth trying.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:O0Wvw6ofFHA.2444@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> In news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
> <<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:
>
>> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new
>> replacement
>> MoBo.
>> I've assembled and returned everything and including my old
>> BIOS
>> setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it will not run continuously
>> because
>> hard drive LED stop. All program just stop functioning after
>> few
>> minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset and
>> always
>> did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse
>> virus on
>> popup warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard
>> drive
>> because AV program stop also. I also tried in Safe Mode to
>> clean-up
>> AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because it stop
>> also.
>> Oh
>> Boy - I give up!
>>
>> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>
>
> Is this motherboard identical to the original one? If not (and
> it
> may not be even if it seems to be), you may need to do a repair
> installation of Windows.
>
> Read here:
> "How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install"
>
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Ken Blake]

In news:%23u1Nv6qfFHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
<<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:

> Thanks!


You're welcome. Let us know how it turns out.


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:%23WHRRCqfFHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> In news:%232N%23hBpfFHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> <<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:
>
>> YES! Ken,
>> My motherboard is identical to the original one. Every
>> hardware
>> and
>> software are identical and the same. Hope and Thanks it will
>> not STOP
>> on Repair Install. Regards, --- Rino.
>
>
> If they are truly identical, a repair installation shouldn't be
> necessary, and won't help. On the other hand it won't hurt
> either, and it might be worth trying.
>
>
>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
>> message
>> news:O0Wvw6ofFHA.2444@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> In news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl,
>> <<< R I N O >>> <<< R I N O > typed:
>>
>>> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new
>>> replacement
>>> MoBo.
>>> I've assembled and returned everything and including my old
>>> BIOS
>>> setting. PC bootup win-xp ok BUT it will not run continuously
>>> because
>>> hard drive LED stop. All program just stop functioning after
>>> few
>>> minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to Reset
>>> and
>>> always
>>> did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse
>>> virus on
>>> popup warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard
>>> drive
>>> because AV program stop also. I also tried in Safe Mode to
>>> clean-up
>>> AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not successful because it stop
>>> also.
>>> Oh
>>> Boy - I give up!
>>>
>>> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Is this motherboard identical to the original one? If not (and
>> it
>> may not be even if it seems to be), you may need to do a
>> repair
>> installation of Windows.
>>
>> Read here:
>> "How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install"
>>
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Richard Urban]

Whenever you remove and reinstall the CPU you should clean off the old
heatsink grease and apply a thin coating of new grease.

Make sure your heatsink is mounted correctly. I know it seems like a simple
procedure to put on a heatsink but you would be surprised how easy it is to
get it on wrong! You can damage the CPU by running at excessive
temperatures.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi John,
> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
> heat
> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
> did NOT minus
> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
> heat sink and
> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>
> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
> running OK.
> My PC have 3 fans and no heating is observed.
>
> I programmed in BIOS to shut down PC when reaching at very high
> temperature. I cannot
> tell the actual temperature right now because it is shut down and idled.
> Thanks!
>
>
> "John Thomas Smith" <jtsmith@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:jjibc1hc1te52asv3gck7l147b9s37trp2@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
> <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've
>>assembled
>>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
>>win-xp ok BUT it
>>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
>>stop
>>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to
>>Reset and
>>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
>>on popup
>>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
>>program stop
> also.
>>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
>>successful
> because
>>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>
> Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
> the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
> the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink
>
> An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
> then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP
>
>
> John Thomas Smith
> http://www.direct2usales.com
> http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith
>
>

Hi Richard,
I can tell mine is NOT a THIN COATING BUT it worked for many years that way. Maybe I
should take out some and make it a thin coating this time before I do a Repair xp
Installation or wait for another day and see what my MoBo company says on this. If thin
grease coating will solve my problem of frequently stopping hard drive activity - maybe
I should also stop further repairing it and begin to enjoy my good working PC.

I'm pretty sure I mounted it correctly as it is rectangular in shape and I marked it
position to returns it correctly. It not liked those rounded or square CPU heat sink
where mistake always happen. With my rectangular type - I can easily aligned it
correctly by its rectangular mounting channel guide and if correctly sited it will
allow 2 mounting clips snap into place. Even a kid can do it because of good designed.

Thanks for the many helps you've given me whenever I visited this newsgroup!

Regards! ---Rino


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Om18YnwfFHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Whenever you remove and reinstall the CPU you should clean off the old
heatsink grease and apply a thin coating of new grease.

Make sure your heatsink is mounted correctly. I know it seems like a simple
procedure to put on a heatsink but you would be surprised how easy it is to
get it on wrong! You can damage the CPU by running at excessive
temperatures.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi John,
> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
> heat
> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
> did NOT minus
> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
> heat sink and
> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>
> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
> running OK.
> My PC have 3 fans and no heating is observed.
>
> I programmed in BIOS to shut down PC when reaching at very high
> temperature. I cannot
> tell the actual temperature right now because it is shut down and idled.
> Thanks!
>
>
> "John Thomas Smith" <jtsmith@pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:jjibc1hc1te52asv3gck7l147b9s37trp2@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
> <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've
>>assembled
>>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
>>win-xp ok BUT it
>>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
>>stop
>>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to
>>Reset and
>>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
>>on popup
>>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
>>program stop
> also.
>>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
>>successful
> because
>>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>
> Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
> the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
> the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink
>
> An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
> then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP
>
>
> John Thomas Smith
> http://www.direct2usales.com
> http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith
>
>

Yes, I'll do it BUT NOT immediately as other easy remedy can fix it. Repartition? - NO
and Never need it! Reformat - maybe and if Repair Installation failed and that will be
my last resort I'll do if everything suggested here failed. Thanks!


<Pete@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Whjxe.4311$6q3.3494@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Re partition. Re format.

"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:OZofTPofFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi Guys,
> I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo. I've
> assembled
> and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
> win-xp ok BUT it
> will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
> stop
> functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except to
> Reset and
> always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
> on popup
> warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
> program stop also.
> I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
> successful because
> it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>
> Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>
>

[Richard Urban]

Only a thin coating is needed, about 1/2 the size of a grain of rice. Then
toy spread it out ever so thinly with an old business card. Whatever remains
on the card, throw away. Too much and you can cause overheating.

Note: In a perfect world the top of the CPU and the bottom of the heatsink
would be mirror smooth and no heatsink would be needed. But the world is not
perfect. The grease fills in the microscopic pits that are on the surfaces
and afford greater surface to surface contact area - hence greater heat
dissipation.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:uOqACUMgFHA.3940@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Richard,
> I can tell mine is NOT a THIN COATING BUT it worked for many years that
> way. Maybe I
> should take out some and make it a thin coating this time before I do a
> Repair xp
> Installation or wait for another day and see what my MoBo company says on
> this. If thin
> grease coating will solve my problem of frequently stopping hard drive
> activity - maybe
> I should also stop further repairing it and begin to enjoy my good working
> PC.
>
> I'm pretty sure I mounted it correctly as it is rectangular in shape and I
> marked it
> position to returns it correctly. It not liked those rounded or square CPU
> heat sink
> where mistake always happen. With my rectangular type - I can easily
> aligned it
> correctly by its rectangular mounting channel guide and if correctly sited
> it will
> allow 2 mounting clips snap into place. Even a kid can do it because of
> good designed.
>
> Thanks for the many helps you've given me whenever I visited this
> newsgroup!
>
> Regards! ---Rino
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Om18YnwfFHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Whenever you remove and reinstall the CPU you should clean off the old
> heatsink grease and apply a thin coating of new grease.
>
> Make sure your heatsink is mounted correctly. I know it seems like a
> simple
> procedure to put on a heatsink but you would be surprised how easy it is
> to
> get it on wrong! You can damage the CPU by running at excessive
> temperatures.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> If you knew as much as you thought you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
> news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John,
>> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
>> heat
>> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
>> did NOT minus
>> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
>> heat sink and
>> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>>
>> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
>> running OK.
>> My PC have 3 fans and no heating is observed.
>>
>> I programmed in BIOS to shut down PC when reaching at very high
>> temperature. I cannot
>> tell the actual temperature right now because it is shut down and idled.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> "John Thomas Smith" <jtsmith@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>> news:jjibc1hc1te52asv3gck7l147b9s37trp2@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
>> <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>>>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo.
>>>I've
>>>assembled
>>>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
>>>win-xp ok BUT it
>>>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
>>>stop
>>>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except
>>>to
>>>Reset and
>>>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
>>>on popup
>>>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
>>>program stop
>> also.
>>>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
>>>successful
>> because
>>>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>>>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>>
>> Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
>> the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
>> the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink
>>
>> An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
>> then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP
>>
>>
>> John Thomas Smith
>> http://www.direct2usales.com
>> http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith
>>
>>
>
>
>

WoW! I think you're absolutely right and my BIG mistake to put as much as possible and
to fill up that shinny square area. They just told us to apply the content of grease
enclosed and never tell us the way you told me now. I think you're more qualify on this
topic.

The very first hour tomorrow I'll concentrate to make it right this time by following
all your valid suggestions. I must send my million thanks to you for saving my CPU - I
would never knew I'm assembling the wrong way because of applying too much thermal
grease.

Regards,
<Rino>

1. It was then, now is now.
2. If I could do it, I would do it.
4. If you told me how to do it then for sure I can do it.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OtA%23HwMgFHA.3912@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Only a thin coating is needed, about 1/2 the size of a grain of rice. Then
toy spread it out ever so thinly with an old business card. Whatever remains
on the card, throw away. Too much and you can cause overheating.

Note: In a perfect world the top of the CPU and the bottom of the heatsink
would be mirror smooth and no heatsink would be needed. But the world is not
perfect. The grease fills in the microscopic pits that are on the surfaces
and afford greater surface to surface contact area - hence greater heat
dissipation.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:uOqACUMgFHA.3940@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Richard,
> I can tell mine is NOT a THIN COATING BUT it worked for many years that
> way. Maybe I
> should take out some and make it a thin coating this time before I do a
> Repair xp
> Installation or wait for another day and see what my MoBo company says on
> this. If thin
> grease coating will solve my problem of frequently stopping hard drive
> activity - maybe
> I should also stop further repairing it and begin to enjoy my good working
> PC.
>
> I'm pretty sure I mounted it correctly as it is rectangular in shape and I
> marked it
> position to returns it correctly. It not liked those rounded or square CPU
> heat sink
> where mistake always happen. With my rectangular type - I can easily
> aligned it
> correctly by its rectangular mounting channel guide and if correctly sited
> it will
> allow 2 mounting clips snap into place. Even a kid can do it because of
> good designed.
>
> Thanks for the many helps you've given me whenever I visited this
> newsgroup!
>
> Regards! ---Rino
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Om18YnwfFHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Whenever you remove and reinstall the CPU you should clean off the old
> heatsink grease and apply a thin coating of new grease.
>
> Make sure your heatsink is mounted correctly. I know it seems like a
> simple
> procedure to put on a heatsink but you would be surprised how easy it is
> to
> get it on wrong! You can damage the CPU by running at excessive
> temperatures.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> If you knew as much as you thought you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
> news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John,
>> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
>> heat
>> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
>> did NOT minus
>> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
>> heat sink and
>> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>>
>> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
>> running OK.
>> My PC have 3 fans and no heating is observed.
>>
>> I programmed in BIOS to shut down PC when reaching at very high
>> temperature. I cannot
>> tell the actual temperature right now because it is shut down and idled.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> "John Thomas Smith" <jtsmith@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>> news:jjibc1hc1te52asv3gck7l147b9s37trp2@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
>> <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>>>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo.
>>>I've
>>>assembled
>>>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
>>>win-xp ok BUT it
>>>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
>>>stop
>>>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except
>>>to
>>>Reset and
>>>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
>>>on popup
>>>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
>>>program stop
>> also.
>>>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
>>>successful
>> because
>>>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>>>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>>
>> Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
>> the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
>> the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink
>>
>> An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
>> then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP
>>
>>
>> John Thomas Smith
>> http://www.direct2usales.com
>> http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith
>>
>>
>
>
>

Uh-oh, I put on barely grease strain (my thinest coating possible) on CPU and on heat
sink BUT it didn't fix my PC problem of hard drive shut down after reboot. Waiting from
EpoX tech support reply before doing Repair Installation. Thanks for your support and
expectation. Regards! -- Rino


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:ufzsCYSgFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
WoW! I think you're absolutely right and my BIG mistake to put as much as possible and
to fill up that shinny square area. They just told us to apply the content of grease
enclosed and never tell us the way you told me now. I think you're more qualify on this
topic.

The very first hour tomorrow I'll concentrate to make it right this time by following
all your valid suggestions. I must send my million thanks to you for saving my CPU - I
would never knew I'm assembling the wrong way because of applying too much thermal
grease.

Regards,
<Rino>

1. It was then, now is now.
2. If I could do it, I would do it.
4. If you told me how to do it then for sure I can do it.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OtA%23HwMgFHA.3912@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Only a thin coating is needed, about 1/2 the size of a grain of rice. Then
toy spread it out ever so thinly with an old business card. Whatever remains
on the card, throw away. Too much and you can cause overheating.

Note: In a perfect world the top of the CPU and the bottom of the heatsink
would be mirror smooth and no heatsink would be needed. But the world is not
perfect. The grease fills in the microscopic pits that are on the surfaces
and afford greater surface to surface contact area - hence greater heat
dissipation.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
news:uOqACUMgFHA.3940@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Richard,
> I can tell mine is NOT a THIN COATING BUT it worked for many years that
> way. Maybe I
> should take out some and make it a thin coating this time before I do a
> Repair xp
> Installation or wait for another day and see what my MoBo company says on
> this. If thin
> grease coating will solve my problem of frequently stopping hard drive
> activity - maybe
> I should also stop further repairing it and begin to enjoy my good working
> PC.
>
> I'm pretty sure I mounted it correctly as it is rectangular in shape and I
> marked it
> position to returns it correctly. It not liked those rounded or square CPU
> heat sink
> where mistake always happen. With my rectangular type - I can easily
> aligned it
> correctly by its rectangular mounting channel guide and if correctly sited
> it will
> allow 2 mounting clips snap into place. Even a kid can do it because of
> good designed.
>
> Thanks for the many helps you've given me whenever I visited this
> newsgroup!
>
> Regards! ---Rino
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Om18YnwfFHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Whenever you remove and reinstall the CPU you should clean off the old
> heatsink grease and apply a thin coating of new grease.
>
> Make sure your heatsink is mounted correctly. I know it seems like a
> simple
> procedure to put on a heatsink but you would be surprised how easy it is
> to
> get it on wrong! You can damage the CPU by running at excessive
> temperatures.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> If you knew as much as you thought you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "<<< R I N O >>>" <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote in message
> news:e$ZR8YpfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John,
>> Maybe you're right because I _DID NOT_ apply a new layer of the special
>> heat
>> conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink. I used the old grease as I
>> did NOT minus
>> or wasted the amount of grease and I did mounted in original location of
>> heat sink and
>> fan. I used pen-tel marking dots to locate them.
>>
>> I need a 2nd opinion if I really need to change the grease. My CPU fan is
>> running OK.
>> My PC have 3 fans and no heating is observed.
>>
>> I programmed in BIOS to shut down PC when reaching at very high
>> temperature. I cannot
>> tell the actual temperature right now because it is shut down and idled.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> "John Thomas Smith" <jtsmith@pacifier.com> wrote in message
>> news:jjibc1hc1te52asv3gck7l147b9s37trp2@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:28:33 -0700, "<<< R I N O >>>"
>> <Sorry@NoMail.com> wrote:
>>>I need your help. My EpoX motherboard sent me a new replacement MoBo.
>>>I've
>>>assembled
>>>and returned everything and including my old BIOS setting. PC bootup
>>>win-xp ok BUT it
>>>will not run continuously because hard drive LED stop. All program just
>>>stop
>>>functioning after few minute of running. Cold boot has no effect except
>>>to
>>>Reset and
>>>always did checking files on all drives. I deleted one Trojan Horse virus
>>>on popup
>>>warning BUT couldn't completely scan the whole hard drive because AV
>>>program stop
>> also.
>>>I also tried in Safe Mode to clean-up AV, Spyware & Malware BUT not
>>>successful
>> because
>>>it stop also. Oh Boy - I give up!
>>>Any tip, help or suggestion will be gladly appreciated.
>>
>> Check to be absolutely sure that your cpu fan is spinning and that
>> the heat sink has a good contact with the cpu, with a new layer of
>> the special heat conducting "grease" between cpu and heat sink
>>
>> An overheating cpu will run for 20 seconds to a minute or so and
>> then issue a command to the motherboard to STOP
>>
>>
>> John Thomas Smith
>> http://www.direct2usales.com
>> http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith
>>
>>
>
>
>