Spam Mail with wrong address
Hagar
07-09-2005, 10:33 PM
Can anyone explain how come I get a shitload of spam mail that isn't even
addressed to me? Either the "To" (Me) address is totally wrong or it will
have elements of my username in it or end with the name of the provider.(BT
Internet)
Can-so
07-09-2005, 10:33 PM
There are anti spam solutions available to install
There are services as well
But most spam comes in due to spyware on your system or you as a user giving
your email address out freely
If you get a web page asking for your email address and nothing in the
agreement says you will be sent a ser name and password then put any old
email address in to gain access (noemail@anymail.com) and this should
satisfy the pages want for a email address
Run regular spyware scans on your system to remove the email stealing
software and cookies on your system
This is the new age of the internet and everybody wants part of you.
get a free email account at yahoo,gmail,hotmail and use that as your "crap"
email address and only give our your personal to friends family and other
required people. Use the "free" account for everything else then the spam
will go there
--
"Bother," said Pooh as he struggled with the computer.
"It never does quite what I want."
"I wish Christopher Robin were here."
"Hagar" <sammyhagar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:da8lu4$ibr$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Can anyone explain how come I get a shitload of spam mail that isn't even
> addressed to me? Either the "To" (Me) address is totally wrong or it will
> have elements of my username in it or end with the name of the
> provider.(BT Internet)
>
Hagar
07-09-2005, 10:33 PM
Believe it or not,I have 4 spyware programs on my pc and I never give my
email address out.to any websites,apart from the ones that do send a
password/username etc. I know a lot of these sites sell addresses on
etc.Fair enough, if the spam mails are addressed to me at the right
address,but it's these ones that are addressed wrong that I can't work
out.Surely it's got to be down to Outlook,cos they are letting these mails
through even though they are addressed incorrectly.
"Can-so" <v-2rguth@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23koTix8fFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> There are anti spam solutions available to install
> There are services as well
> But most spam comes in due to spyware on your system or you as a user
> giving your email address out freely
> If you get a web page asking for your email address and nothing in the
> agreement says you will be sent a ser name and password then put any old
> email address in to gain access (noemail@anymail.com) and this should
> satisfy the pages want for a email address
> Run regular spyware scans on your system to remove the email stealing
> software and cookies on your system
> This is the new age of the internet and everybody wants part of you.
> get a free email account at yahoo,gmail,hotmail and use that as your
> "crap" email address and only give our your personal to friends family and
> other required people. Use the "free" account for everything else then
> the spam will go there
>
>
> --
> "Bother," said Pooh as he struggled with the computer.
>
> "It never does quite what I want."
>
> "I wish Christopher Robin were here."
>
> "Hagar" <sammyhagar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:da8lu4$ibr$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> Can anyone explain how come I get a shitload of spam mail that isn't even
>> addressed to me? Either the "To" (Me) address is totally wrong or it
>> will have elements of my username in it or end with the name of the
>> provider.(BT Internet)
>>
>
>
N. Miller
07-09-2005, 10:33 PM
On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:33:09 +0000 (UTC), Hagar wrote:
> Can anyone explain how come I get a shitload of spam mail that isn't even
> addressed to me? Either the "To" (Me) address is totally wrong or it will
> have elements of my username in it or end with the name of the provider.(BT
> Internet)
The "To:" address field isn't even known to the MX server until the SMTP
DATA phase of the transaction. The email goes to the email address in the
SMTP RCPT TO phase of the transaction. This email address is usually
stripped from the email message by the Mail Delivery Agent (MDA), the SMTP
server which places the email message in your mailbox for POP3 (or IMAP)
access.
Some email services do reveal that email address, but it is not required by
RFC 2821, or associated RFCs. Yahoo! mail includes the "X-Apparently-To:"
header line, others use "X-Delivered-To:", or some variant. Many just don't
include it at all.
MS Outlook Express does this by using the "Bcc:" field when you send email.
Here is part a recent SMTP server log of an email transaction:
--------------------------------------------------------------
|00:48:03.865: Connection from 192.168.102.100, Thu Jun 30 00:48:03 2005<lf>
|00:48:03.874: << 220-aosake.net ESMTP server ready.<cr><lf>220-No unauthorized relaying, or spam is allowed.<cr><lf>220 No legal obligation of acceptance by aosake.net exists.<cr><lf>
|00:48:03.895: >> EHLO [192.168.102.100]<cr><lf>
|00:48:03.898: << 250-aosake.net Hello [192.168.102.100]; ESMTPs are:<cr><lf>250-TIME<cr><lf>
{Snipped some SMTP stuff.}
|00:48:03.188: << 235 Authentication successful.<cr><lf>
|00:48:03.240: >> MAIL FROM:<***@aosake.net> SIZE=415<cr><lf>
{The line above can be forged; you can;t always trust this one!}
|00:48:03.245: << 250 Sender and size (415) OK - send RCPTs.<cr><lf>
|00:48:03.273: >> RCPT TO:<***@netscape.net><cr><lf>
{The line above is the actual recipient of this email message.}
{Snipped some SMTP stuff.}
|00:48:04.916: >> DATA<cr><lf>
{The line above is the start of the message.}
|00:48:04.917: << 354 OK, send data, end with CRLF.CRLF<cr><lf>
|00:48:04.976: >> Message-ID: <42C3A3B2.5070201@aosake.net><cr><lf>
|00:48:04.984: >> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:48:02 -0700<cr><lf>
|00:48:04.984: >> From: *** <***@aosake.net><cr><lf>
|00:48:04.985: >> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317)<cr><lf>
|00:48:04.986: >> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en<cr><lf>
|00:48:04.986: >> MIME-Version: 1.0<cr><lf>
|00:48:04.987: >> To: undisclosed-recipients:;<cr><lf>
{The line above can be anything the sender wants it to be. In this case,
the "To:" field of Mozilla Thunderbird was left blank; but it could have
been <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>, and the message would still be
received by the Netscape email address of the RCPT TO: line above.
--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
N. Miller
07-09-2005, 10:33 PM
On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:40:26 -0300, Can-so wrote:
> ...email address in to gain access (noemail@anymail.com)
> and this should...
Please do not use an email address with "anymail.com" in it; unless you
have the permission of the domain owner:
----------------------------------------
07/03/05 07:49:41 whois anymail.com@whois.geektools.com
whois -h whois.geektools.com anymail.com ...
GeekTools Whois Proxy v5.0.4 Ready.
Checking access for 64.161.30.147... ok.
Checking server [whois.crsnic.net]
Checking server [whois.opensrs.net]
Results:
Registrant:
Corporate Technologies
1615 Round Hill Dr
Fargo, ND 58104
US
Domain name: ANYMAIL.COM
----------------------------------------
Please refer to this link for the proper way to create example email
addresses:
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2606.html
> This is the new age of the internet and everybody wants part of you.
> get a free email account at yahoo,gmail,hotmail and use that as your "crap"
> email address and only give our your personal to friends family and other
I like Sneakemail:
http://www.sneakemail.com/
There are similar services from other providers. If you pay Yahoo! for
their Mail Plus service ($19.99US per year) you get their "AddressGuard"
feature, 500 disposable email addresses which look like this:
<tsudohnimu-example@yahoo.com>
The "tsudohnimu" is the "Base Name", and, by itself, is not an email
address, or Yahoo! ID. The "example" is the "Keyword", and indicates the
purpose of the email address.
http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools?tool=3
--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
Kath Adams
07-09-2005, 10:33 PM
Hagar wrote:
> Can anyone explain how come I get a shitload of spam mail that isn't
> even addressed to me? Either the "To" (Me) address is totally wrong
> or it will have elements of my username in it or end with the name
> of the provider.(BT Internet)
You may be in line for receipt of more spam. You posted in a public
newsgroup with your real email address. NG's are regularly harvested by
spam senders.
Change your email address for posting in NG's to something like
sammyhagar@bt(nospam)internet.com
As Norman points out, the "antispam" bit of the address should be added
to the domain and not before the @. (You can add to both, but do not
omit adding to the domain.) If you were to change to
sammy(nospam)hagar@btinternet.com Then BT would still receive the email,
but not you, as it's a valid domain.
--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)
Spam Mail with wrong address