[Michael Ray Brown]

Most OE Stationery has a title in its heading code. For example, the "Pie
Charts" stationery has the title "Pie Charts" in its html header. Lately
I've discovered that, if the recipient doesn't accept .html, they see the
title (in this case, the words "Pie Charts") as the first line of their
plain text message. Is this normal?

--
Michael

[Jim Pickering]

That happens when a sender has his/her settings to send mail in HTML and
then decides in a Compose Window to change the format to Plain Text. The
first part of the info in the <TITLE> tag of the stationery is appended to
the message as the first characters in that message.
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Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
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"Michael Ray Brown" <velcrofaceNoSpam@yahooNoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:%23OABGs0eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Most OE Stationery has a title in its heading code. For example, the "Pie
> Charts" stationery has the title "Pie Charts" in its html header. Lately
> I've discovered that, if the recipient doesn't accept .html, they see the
> title (in this case, the words "Pie Charts") as the first line of their
> plain text message. Is this normal?
>
> --
> Michael
>

[Michael Ray Brown]

That's not what's happening here. I'm the sender, and I'm composing in
HTML. I don't change it to plain text. No, I just keep it as HTML. If the
recipient sends me a reply, I see the title in the body of the indented
original.

--
Michael

"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uqEXJf1eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> That happens when a sender has his/her settings to send mail in HTML and
> then decides in a Compose Window to change the format to Plain Text. The
> first part of the info in the <TITLE> tag of the stationery is appended to
> the message as the first characters in that message.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6

[Michael Santovec]

Is the person in your address book in Outlook Express? If so, double click the entry to
open and look at the NAME tab. There is an option there to force plain text format for
selected recipients even though you compose in HTML format.

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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Michael Ray Brown" <velcrofaceNoSpam@yahooNoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:Ol54RI2eFHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> That's not what's happening here. I'm the sender, and I'm composing in HTML. I don't
> change it to plain text. No, I just keep it as HTML. If the recipient sends me a
> reply, I see the title in the body of the indented original.
>
> --
> Michael
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uqEXJf1eFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> That happens when a sender has his/her settings to send mail in HTML and then decides
>> in a Compose Window to change the format to Plain Text. The first part of the info in
>> the <TITLE> tag of the stationery is appended to the message as the first characters in
>> that message.
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
>
>

[Michael Ray Brown]

Yes, the recipient is in the Address Book. However, checking that box does
nothing. I don't even know why Microsoft put it there. Unless you have it
configured to plain text only, OE always sends messages in both plain text
and html. If the recipient is set up to accept only plain text, then that's
the part they'll see. The problem is that OE is inserting the title in the
plain text portion of the message.

--
Michael


Michael Santovec <michael_santovec@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Is the person in your address book in Outlook Express? If so, double
> click the entry to open and look at the NAME tab. There is an option
> there to force plain text format for selected recipients even though you
> compose in HTML format.
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
> <snip>

[Michael Santovec]

When you check that box in the address book and send to that person, at the point of
sending OE forces the message to plain text mode ripping out the HTML. When OE rips out
the HTML in a message using stationery, there is a bug that can leave the stationery name
in the message.

Normally you would get a warning message at sending if you are using HTML and the address
book says plain text only, but I suspect there is a don't show this warning checkbox.

Take a look at one of the problem messages in your Sent Items folder and look at its
Message Source (Ctrl-F3) to see if the HTML has been removed.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"Michael Ray Brown" <velcrofaceNoSpam@yahooNoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:eTjswYBfFHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Yes, the recipient is in the Address Book. However, checking that box does nothing. I
> don't even know why Microsoft put it there. Unless you have it configured to plain text
> only, OE always sends messages in both plain text and html. If the recipient is set up
> to accept only plain text, then that's the part they'll see. The problem is that OE is
> inserting the title in the plain text portion of the message.
>
> --
> Michael
>
>
> Michael Santovec <michael_santovec@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> Is the person in your address book in Outlook Express? If so, double
>> click the entry to open and look at the NAME tab. There is an option
>> there to force plain text format for selected recipients even though you
>> compose in HTML format.
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>> <snip>
>
>

[Michael Ray Brown]

Thanks for the information. I generally don't use the plain text checkbox
because it's rare that I know before the fact that the recipient accepts
only plain text. It does indeed strip out the HTML, including the title. I
wonder why it doesn't strip out the title in the plain text portion of the
message when sending as both plain text and HTML. From now on, I guess I'll
have to make sure my HTML messages don't have titles.

--
Michael

Michael Santovec <michael_santovec@prodigy.net> wrote:
> When you check that box in the address book and send to that person, at
> the point of sending OE forces the message to plain text mode ripping out
> the HTML. When OE rips out the HTML in a message using stationery, there
> is a bug that can leave the stationery name in the message.
>
> Normally you would get a warning message at sending if you are using HTML
> and the address book says plain text only, but I suspect there is a don't
> show this warning checkbox.
> Take a look at one of the problem messages in your Sent Items folder and
> look at its Message Source (Ctrl-F3) to see if the HTML has been removed.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
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