[wickedways]

Discovered by chance that if I compact my OE6 folders the system simply eats
up some messages...the first time this happened it "deleted" about 10
folders in one sector (all beginning with D-M, but scattered)....I carefully
moved my mailstore folder to preserve all the dbx. files, but lo, when I did
that, the folders that had vanished from OE also vanished from the hard
drive. So when this happened again (and no, I'm not stupid; I didn't realize
that "compacting" caused the problem until it happened the second time) I
did nothing; I still have the folder on my hard drive....so here's the deal;
I can't import any of those back to OE...I get the message saying the
program is in use or files aren't there....when I tried to import from CD
backup (a CD made in 2003) I got the same message UNTIL I tried it on a
computer running Win98, and then it would work. but it will not import on
any system running XP (I've tried three computers now). My trust in OE is
pretty well fried, will switch to Eudora (do have gmail but need
non-web-based for existing work e-dress)....what the F....is going on? what
happened to OE? I would consider reloading it because my version is
obviously corrupt, but....I took it to my trusty tech and he refused to deal
with it, he says OE is just a problem waiting to happen and re-happen.

[Jim Pickering]

You might want to read the info in this article:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"wickedways" <lostcause@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xWlre.948735$w62.255031@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Discovered by chance that if I compact my OE6 folders the system simply
> eats
> up some messages...the first time this happened it "deleted" about 10
> folders in one sector (all beginning with D-M, but scattered)....I
> carefully
> moved my mailstore folder to preserve all the dbx. files, but lo, when I
> did
> that, the folders that had vanished from OE also vanished from the hard
> drive. So when this happened again (and no, I'm not stupid; I didn't
> realize
> that "compacting" caused the problem until it happened the second time) I
> did nothing; I still have the folder on my hard drive....so here's the
> deal;
> I can't import any of those back to OE...I get the message saying the
> program is in use or files aren't there....when I tried to import from CD
> backup (a CD made in 2003) I got the same message UNTIL I tried it on a
> computer running Win98, and then it would work. but it will not import on
> any system running XP (I've tried three computers now). My trust in OE is
> pretty well fried, will switch to Eudora (do have gmail but need
> non-web-based for existing work e-dress)....what the F....is going on?
> what
> happened to OE? I would consider reloading it because my version is
> obviously corrupt, but....I took it to my trusty tech and he refused to
> deal
> with it, he says OE is just a problem waiting to happen and re-happen.
>
>

[wickedways]

thank you for pointing me to this article. Wish I'd seen it BEFORE the
catastrophe...
I see you too use webmail..

"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message

> You might want to read the info in this article:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
> --

[Hi Ho Silver]

The reference article is interest ing...especially this statement: "Also
know that altering even a single byte in a DBX file might render the file
completely unusable by Outlook Express." This reminds me of the Ray
Bradbury story, "The Sound of Thunder" where someone goes back into
prehistoric time and steps on a butterfly, thereby horribly altering the
future to which he returned... just a weird and off topic thought...
---------------------------


"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uhE7NqFcFHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You might want to read the info in this article:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> Thanks.
>

[wickedways]

big sci-fi fan here too, and there have been many time travel stories
theorizing what happens when one thing is changed....

"Hi Ho Silver" <24601@hidden> wrote in message
news:#jfflbHcFHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> The reference article is interest ing...especially this statement: "Also
> know that altering even a single byte in a DBX file might render the file
> completely unusable by Outlook Express." This reminds me of the Ray
> Bradbury story, "The Sound of Thunder" where someone goes back into
> prehistoric time and steps on a butterfly, thereby horribly altering the
> future to which he returned... just a weird and off topic thought...
> ---------------------------
>
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uhE7NqFcFHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > You might want to read the info in this article:
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
> > --
> > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> >
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62
D6
> > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> > Thanks.
> >
>

[PA Bear]

You posted using OE 5.5 SP2. Were you posting from the Win98 machine?

You can't import directly from CD.

Files you've copied from CD to your HDD must have the Read Only attribute
removed before they will import.

References:

Backup & Restore OE Data
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/index.htm
http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

OE Files & Settings
http://www.insideoe.com/files/index.htm

Importing OE Data
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/how.htm#importOE5
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/how.htm#importdbx

Using WinXP's FAST Wizard, by MVP Gary Woodruff
(Please read the caveats about Outlook Express)
http://aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

wickedways wrote:
> Discovered by chance that if I compact my OE6 folders the system simply
> eats
> up some messages...the first time this happened it "deleted" about 10
> folders in one sector (all beginning with D-M, but scattered)....I
> carefully
> moved my mailstore folder to preserve all the dbx. files, but lo, when I
> did
> that, the folders that had vanished from OE also vanished from the hard
> drive. So when this happened again (and no, I'm not stupid; I didn't
> realize
> that "compacting" caused the problem until it happened the second time) I
> did nothing; I still have the folder on my hard drive....so here's the
> deal;
> I can't import any of those back to OE...I get the message saying the
> program is in use or files aren't there....when I tried to import from CD
> backup (a CD made in 2003) I got the same message UNTIL I tried it on a
> computer running Win98, and then it would work. but it will not import on
> any system running XP (I've tried three computers now). My trust in OE is
> pretty well fried, will switch to Eudora (do have gmail but need
> non-web-based for existing work e-dress)....what the F....is going on?
> what
> happened to OE? I would consider reloading it because my version is
> obviously corrupt, but....I took it to my trusty tech and he refused to
> deal
> with it, he says OE is just a problem waiting to happen and re-happen.

[N. Miller]

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:49:20 GMT, wickedways wrote:

> thank you for pointing me to this article. Wish I'd seen it BEFORE the
> catastrophe...
> I see you too use webmail..

I don't know about Jim, but I don't use my GMail account as a web mail
account. Email to my GMail account is forwarded to my domain email account.
Email from my GMail account is compose offline in a mail client, and sent
through a mail client; but I use Pegasus Mail. So far, I have not
encountered some of the stupider aspects of MS Outlook Express.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

[Jim Pickering]

"N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:f73ff1exzm9r$.dlg@discussions.microsoft.com...
>
> I don't know about Jim, but I don't use my GMail account as a web mail
> account. Email to my GMail account is forwarded to my domain email
> account.
> Email from my GMail account is compose offline in a mail client, and sent
> through a mail client; but I use Pegasus Mail. So far, I have not
> encountered some of the stupider aspects of MS Outlook Express.
>

My Gmail account is just a SPAM trap, checked every couple weeks. People
who just can't avoid the Reply All button wind up there and are deleted
every couple of weeks.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.

[Steve Cochran]

With respect to Fubar Express, it must have been a very large butterfly.
Maybe Mothra?

BTW, DBXtract and DBXpress will recover the messages often under those
circumstances. But see points 2, 3 and 4 here: www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx

steve

"wickedways" <lostcause@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5Cpre.317736$cg1.156302@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> big sci-fi fan here too, and there have been many time travel stories
> theorizing what happens when one thing is changed....
>
> "Hi Ho Silver" <24601@hidden> wrote in message
> news:#jfflbHcFHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> The reference article is interest ing...especially this statement: "Also
>> know that altering even a single byte in a DBX file might render the file
>> completely unusable by Outlook Express." This reminds me of the Ray
>> Bradbury story, "The Sound of Thunder" where someone goes back into
>> prehistoric time and steps on a butterfly, thereby horribly altering the
>> future to which he returned... just a weird and off topic thought...
>> ---------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uhE7NqFcFHA.3400@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > You might want to read the info in this article:
>> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
>> > --
>> > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>> >
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62
> D6
>> > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>>
>
>

[wickedways]

> You can't import directly from CD.

um...I did. all of the files imported from the CD on the machine running
Win98.

> Files you've copied from CD to your HDD must have the Read Only attribute
> removed before they will import.

now THIS Might be useful!alas, no, I just check them, and the files are NOT
marked read only or hidden. damn. I have them on zips and on HD....have to
figure out how to retrieve....
>
> References:
>
> Backup & Restore OE Data
> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/index.htm
> http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
>
> OE Files & Settings
> http://www.insideoe.com/files/index.htm
>
> Importing OE Data
> http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/how.htm#importOE5
> http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/how.htm#importdbx
>
> Using WinXP's FAST Wizard, by MVP Gary Woodruff
> (Please read the caveats about Outlook Express)
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> wickedways wrote:
> > Discovered by chance that if I compact my OE6 folders the system simply
> > eats
> > up some messages...the first time this happened it "deleted" about 10
> > folders in one sector (all beginning with D-M, but scattered)....I
> > carefully
> > moved my mailstore folder to preserve all the dbx. files, but lo, when I
> > did
> > that, the folders that had vanished from OE also vanished from the hard
> > drive. So when this happened again (and no, I'm not stupid; I didn't
> > realize
> > that "compacting" caused the problem until it happened the second time)
I
> > did nothing; I still have the folder on my hard drive....so here's the
> > deal;
> > I can't import any of those back to OE...I get the message saying the
> > program is in use or files aren't there....when I tried to import from
CD
> > backup (a CD made in 2003) I got the same message UNTIL I tried it on a
> > computer running Win98, and then it would work. but it will not import
on
> > any system running XP (I've tried three computers now). My trust in OE
is
> > pretty well fried, will switch to Eudora (do have gmail but need
> > non-web-based for existing work e-dress)....what the F....is going on?
> > what
> > happened to OE? I would consider reloading it because my version is
> > obviously corrupt, but....I took it to my trusty tech and he refused to
> > deal
> > with it, he says OE is just a problem waiting to happen and re-happen.
>