Message list flicker

Jim Pickering

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

Motive SmartBridge (MOTIVESB.EXE) may have been installed by your ISP to aid
in reporting connection issues. I would consider uninstalling this
application unless you use it. Alternatively open MSConfig (Start, Run and
enter MSConfig in the box and click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck
"Motive SmartBridge". See if that fixes the problem.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.

"Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:6A2A91E8-038C-44EA-80C7-25E0FBBEB4A2@microsoft.com...
> Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as if
> it's
> refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in - Inbox,
> Deleted,
> etc. I've had some other intermittant strange things happen, like a
> minimized message that pops back up on its own, and adding a new contact
> which appears in the address book but not in the list of contacts in the
> lower left of the screen.
>
> But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just started
> the other day.
>
> Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook Express?
>
> I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
> AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up blocker,
> SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with AntiVirus, Ad aware
> 6,
> SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search & Destroy, and deleted the found
> ads,
> tracking cookies, etc. but it didn't help. I have no news accounts in my
> "Internet Accounts" list.
>
> --
> Kevin Withers

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for MOTIVESB.EXE on the
hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
--
Kevin Withers

"Jim Pickering" wrote:

> Motive SmartBridge (MOTIVESB.EXE) may have been installed by your ISP to aid
> in reporting connection issues. I would consider uninstalling this
> application unless you use it. Alternatively open MSConfig (Start, Run and
> enter MSConfig in the box and click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck
> "Motive SmartBridge". See if that fixes the problem.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> Thanks.
>
>
> "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:6A2A91E8-038C-44EA-80C7-25E0FBBEB4A2@microsoft.com...
> > Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as if
> > it's
> > refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in - Inbox,
> > Deleted,
> > etc. I've had some other intermittant strange things happen, like a
> > minimized message that pops back up on its own, and adding a new contact
> > which appears in the address book but not in the list of contacts in the
> > lower left of the screen.
> >
> > But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just started
> > the other day.
> >
> > Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook Express?
> >
> > I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
> > AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up blocker,
> > SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with AntiVirus, Ad aware
> > 6,
> > SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search & Destroy, and deleted the found
> > ads,
> > tracking cookies, etc. but it didn't help. I have no news accounts in my
> > "Internet Accounts" list.
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Withers
>
>

N. Miller

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:

> Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for MOTIVESB.EXE on the
> hard drive just in case, and found nothing.

You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You don't need
it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I have SBC
Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the Yahoo!
Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.

If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or, maybe you
have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE. Windows XP
also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any of the SBC stuff.
Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate; though I prefer other,
better, browsers.

One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC accounts, and
how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new messages" is set
to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker; especially if you are
polling more that one POP3 account.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and I'm sure
there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had these running
for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the future I'll replace
them with some third-party solutions that are better.

I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem - no
router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and because I get
a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one minute, which
has never been a problem in the past.
--
Kevin Withers

"N. Miller" wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
>
> > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for MOTIVESB.EXE on the
> > hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
>
> You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You don't need
> it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I have SBC
> Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the Yahoo!
> Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
>
> If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or, maybe you
> have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE. Windows XP
> also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any of the SBC stuff.
> Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate; though I prefer other,
> better, browsers.
>
> One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC accounts, and
> how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new messages" is set
> to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker; especially if you are
> polling more that one POP3 account.
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>

PA Bear

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

> ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> which has never been a problem in the past.

Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Kevin Withers wrote:
> I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and I'm
> sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had these
> running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the future
> I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are better.
>
> I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem - no
> router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and because I
> get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> which has never been a problem in the past.
>
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> >
> > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
> > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
> >
> > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You don't need
> > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I have SBC
> > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the Yahoo!
> > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
> >
> > If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or, maybe
> > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE.
> > Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any of
> > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate;
> > though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> >
> > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC accounts,
> > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new messages"
> > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker; especially if
> > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> >
> > --
> > Norman
> > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is still
there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
--
Kevin Withers

"PA Bear" wrote:

> > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > which has never been a problem in the past.
>
> Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Kevin Withers wrote:
> > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and I'm
> > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had these
> > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the future
> > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are better.
> >
> > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem - no
> > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and because I
> > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > which has never been a problem in the past.
> >
> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
> > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
> > >
> > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You don't need
> > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I have SBC
> > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the Yahoo!
> > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
> > >
> > > If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or, maybe
> > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE.
> > > Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any of
> > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate;
> > > though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> > >
> > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC accounts,
> > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new messages"
> > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker; especially if
> > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Norman
> > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>

Jim Pickering

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it applies in
your case:

271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal Services:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.

"Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is still
> there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
> --
> Kevin Withers
>
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
>> > which has never been a problem in the past.
>>
>> Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>>
>> Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and
>> > I'm
>> > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had these
>> > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the future
>> > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are better.
>> >
>> > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem -
>> > no
>> > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and because
>> > I
>> > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one
>> > minute,
>> > which has never been a problem in the past.
>> >
>> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
>> > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
>> > >
>> > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You don't
>> > > need
>> > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I have
>> > > SBC
>> > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the
>> > > Yahoo!
>> > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
>> > >
>> > > If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or,
>> > > maybe
>> > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE.
>> > > Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any of
>> > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate;
>> > > though I prefer other, better, browsers.
>> > >
>> > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC accounts,
>> > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new
>> > > messages"
>> > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker; especially
>> > > if
>> > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Norman
>> > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>> > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>> > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>>
>>

PA Bear

07-09-2005, 10:26 PM

Is WinXP SP2 installed?

If you temporarily disable NAV, does the flickering persist?

Does this flickering happen in any other application?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Kevin Withers wrote:
> Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is still
> there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
>
> > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> >
> > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > --
> > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and
> > > I'm sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had
> > > these running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in
> > > the future I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > better.
> > >
> > > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem
> > > - no router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and
> > > because I get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages
> > > every one minute, which has never been a problem in the past.
<paste>
Kevin Withers wrote:
> Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as if
> it's refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in - Inbox,
> Deleted, etc. I've had some other intermittant strange things happen,
> like a minimized message that pops back up on its own, and adding a new
> contact which appears in the address book but not in the list of contacts
> in the lower left of the screen.
>
> But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just started
> the other day.
>
> Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook Express?
>
> I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
> AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up blocker,
> SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with AntiVirus, Ad aware
> 6, SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search & Destroy, and deleted the
> found ads, tracking cookies, etc. but it didn't help. I have no news
> accounts in my "Internet Accounts" list.

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from - it has
to do with animation.

I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I have to
close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.

Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task Manager?
If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed several
times - could that be the problem?
--
Kevin Withers

"Jim Pickering" wrote:

> Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it applies in
> your case:
>
> 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is still
> > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
> > --
> > Kevin Withers
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> >> > which has never been a problem in the past.
> >>
> >> Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >>
> >> Kevin Withers wrote:
> >> > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and
> >> > I'm
> >> > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had these
> >> > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the future
> >> > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are better.
> >> >
> >> > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem -
> >> > no
> >> > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and because
> >> > I
> >> > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one
> >> > minute,
> >> > which has never been a problem in the past.
> >> >
> >> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
> >> > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
> >> > >
> >> > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You don't
> >> > > need
> >> > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I have
> >> > > SBC
> >> > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the
> >> > > Yahoo!
> >> > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or,
> >> > > maybe
> >> > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE.
> >> > > Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any of
> >> > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate;
> >> > > though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> >> > >
> >> > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC accounts,
> >> > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new
> >> > > messages"
> >> > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker; especially
> >> > > if
> >> > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Norman
> >> > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> >> > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> >> > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
> >>
> >>
>
>

Steve Cochran

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and disable
all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the problem.

See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.

steve

"Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
>I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from - it
>has
> to do with animation.
>
> I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I have
> to
> close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
>
> Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> Manager?
> If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> several
> times - could that be the problem?
> --
> Kevin Withers
>
>
> "Jim Pickering" wrote:
>
>> Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it applies in
>> your case:
>>
>> 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal Services:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
>> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
>> > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
>> > still
>> > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
>> > --
>> > Kevin Withers
>> >
>> >
>> > "PA Bear" wrote:
>> >
>> >> > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
>> >> > which has never been a problem in the past.
>> >>
>> >> Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
>> >> --
>> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>> >>
>> >> Kevin Withers wrote:
>> >> > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had
>> >> > these
>> >> > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the
>> >> > future
>> >> > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are better.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL
>> >> > modem -
>> >> > no
>> >> > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and
>> >> > because
>> >> > I
>> >> > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one
>> >> > minute,
>> >> > which has never been a problem in the past.
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
>> >> > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You
>> >> > > don't
>> >> > > need
>> >> > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I
>> >> > > have
>> >> > > SBC
>> >> > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the
>> >> > > Yahoo!
>> >> > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or,
>> >> > > maybe
>> >> > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE.
>> >> > > Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any
>> >> > > of
>> >> > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate;
>> >> > > though I prefer other, better, browsers.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC
>> >> > > accounts,
>> >> > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new
>> >> > > messages"
>> >> > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
>> >> > > especially
>> >> > > if
>> >> > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Norman
>> >> > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>> >> > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>> >> > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

PA Bear

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Amplifying Steve's reply...

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Steve Cochran wrote:
> Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and
> disable all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the
> problem.
> See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
>
> steve
>
> "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
> > I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from - it
> > has
> > to do with animation.
> >
> > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I
> > have to
> > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
> >
> > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> > Manager?
> > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> > several
> > times - could that be the problem?
> > --
> > Kevin Withers
> >
> >
> > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
> >
> > > Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it applies
> > > in your case:
> > >
> > > 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal
> > > Services: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> > > --
> > > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> > > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
> > > helped. Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
> > > > still
> > > > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > > seconds. --
> > > > Kevin Withers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "PA Bear" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > > --
> > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
> > > > > > running, and I'm
> > > > > > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've
> > > > > > had these
> > > > > > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the
> > > > > > future
> > > > > > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > > > > better. I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's
> > > > > > 2Wire DSL
> > > > > > modem -
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and
> > > > > > because
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every
> > > > > > one minute,
> > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
> > > > > > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found
> > > > > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > SBC
> > > > > > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is
> > > > > > > the Yahoo!
> > > > > > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to
> > > > > > > SBC-Y. If you are behind a router, let the router handle the
> > > > > > > PPPoE.
> > > > > > > Or, maybe
> > > > > > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the
> > > > > > > PPPoE. Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you
> > > > > > > shouldn't need any of
> > > > > > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is
> > > > > > > adequate; though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC
> > > > > > > accounts,
> > > > > > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new
> > > > > > > messages"
> > > > > > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
> > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > > > > > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > > > > > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Disabling all the startup programs didn't make a difference.
--
Kevin Withers

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and disable
> all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the problem.
>
> See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
>
> steve
>
> "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
> >I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from - it
> >has
> > to do with animation.
> >
> > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I have
> > to
> > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
> >
> > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> > Manager?
> > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> > several
> > times - could that be the problem?
> > --
> > Kevin Withers
> >
> >
> > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
> >
> >> Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it applies in
> >> your case:
> >>
> >> 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal Services:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> >> --
> >> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> >> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> >> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> >> > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
> >> > still
> >> > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
> >> > --
> >> > Kevin Withers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> >> >> > which has never been a problem in the past.
> >> >>
> >> >> Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> >> >> --
> >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >> >>
> >> >> Kevin Withers wrote:
> >> >> > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had
> >> >> > these
> >> >> > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the
> >> >> > future
> >> >> > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are better.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL
> >> >> > modem -
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and
> >> >> > because
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every one
> >> >> > minute,
> >> >> > which has never been a problem in the past.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
> >> >> > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found nothing.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You
> >> >> > > don't
> >> >> > > need
> >> >> > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I
> >> >> > > have
> >> >> > > SBC
> >> >> > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is the
> >> >> > > Yahoo!
> >> >> > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to SBC-Y.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > If you are behind a router, let the router handle the PPPoE. Or,
> >> >> > > maybe
> >> >> > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the PPPoE.
> >> >> > > Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you shouldn't need any
> >> >> > > of
> >> >> > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is adequate;
> >> >> > > though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC
> >> >> > > accounts,
> >> >> > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new
> >> >> > > messages"
> >> >> > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
> >> >> > > especially
> >> >> > > if
> >> >> > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Norman
> >> >> > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> >> >> > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> >> >> > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Thanks! It looks like I've got some work ahead of me.

If nothing else works, I guess I'll try reinstalling IE.
--
Kevin Withers

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Amplifying Steve's reply...
>
> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
>
> Steve Cochran wrote:
> > Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and
> > disable all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the
> > problem.
> > See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
> >
> > steve
> >
> > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
> > > I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from - it
> > > has
> > > to do with animation.
> > >
> > > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I
> > > have to
> > > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> > > Manager?
> > > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> > > several
> > > times - could that be the problem?
> > > --
> > > Kevin Withers
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it applies
> > > > in your case:
> > > >
> > > > 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal
> > > > Services: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> > > > --
> > > > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> > > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> > > > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
> > > > helped. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
> > > > > still
> > > > > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > > > seconds. --
> > > > > Kevin Withers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "PA Bear" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
> > > > > > > running, and I'm
> > > > > > > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've
> > > > > > > had these
> > > > > > > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in the
> > > > > > > future
> > > > > > > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > > > > > better. I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's
> > > > > > > 2Wire DSL
> > > > > > > modem -
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and
> > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages every
> > > > > > > one minute,
> > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched for
> > > > > > > > > MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and found
> > > > > > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it. You
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls, etc. I
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > SBC
> > > > > > > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board is
> > > > > > > > the Yahoo!
> > > > > > > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to
> > > > > > > > SBC-Y. If you are behind a router, let the router handle the
> > > > > > > > PPPoE.
> > > > > > > > Or, maybe
> > > > > > > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the
> > > > > > > > PPPoE. Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you
> > > > > > > > shouldn't need any of
> > > > > > > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is
> > > > > > > > adequate; though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your SBC
> > > > > > > > accounts,
> > > > > > > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for new
> > > > > > > > messages"
> > > > > > > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
> > > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > > > > > > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > > > > > > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Yup - WinXP SP2 is installed.

Disabling NAV doesn't make any difference.

However, I have noticed that there's a little bit of sporadic flickering in
Visual Basic 6. The tool bar at the top sometimes flickers slightly at the
same time that OE flickers. I can tell because OE flickers every 10 seconds,
and once the flicker occurs in OE, if I switch tasks over to VB6, at the next
10 second mark the tool bar flickers slightly. It's not as pronounced as the
flicker in OE, and sometimes it can't be seen at all.
--
Kevin Withers

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Is WinXP SP2 installed?
>
> If you temporarily disable NAV, does the flickering persist?
>
> Does this flickering happen in any other application?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Kevin Withers wrote:
> > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is still
> > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10 seconds.
> >
> > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > >
> > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > --
> > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running, and
> > > > I'm sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but I've had
> > > > these running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe in
> > > > the future I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL modem
> > > > - no router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE, and
> > > > because I get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages
> > > > every one minute, which has never been a problem in the past.
> <paste>
> Kevin Withers wrote:
> > Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as if
> > it's refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in - Inbox,
> > Deleted, etc. I've had some other intermittant strange things happen,
> > like a minimized message that pops back up on its own, and adding a new
> > contact which appears in the address book but not in the list of contacts
> > in the lower left of the screen.
> >
> > But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just started
> > the other day.
> >
> > Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook Express?
> >
> > I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
> > AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up blocker,
> > SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with AntiVirus, Ad aware
> > 6, SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search & Destroy, and deleted the
> > found ads, tracking cookies, etc. but it didn't help. I have no news
> > accounts in my "Internet Accounts" list.
>

PA Bear

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Hijackware infects the OS. If Windows is infected, reinstalling IE won't
help one bit.
--
~PA Bear

Kevin Withers wrote:
> Thanks! It looks like I've got some work ahead of me.
>
> If nothing else works, I guess I'll try reinstalling IE.
>
> > Amplifying Steve's reply...
> >
> > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
> > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >
> >
> > Steve Cochran wrote:
> > > Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and
> > > disable all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the
> > > problem.
> > > See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
> > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
> > > > I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from
> > > > - it has
> > > > to do with animation.
> > > >
> > > > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I
> > > > have to
> > > > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> > > > Manager?
> > > > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> > > > several
> > > > times - could that be the problem?
> > > > --
> > > > Kevin Withers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it
> > > > > applies in your case:
> > > > >
> > > > > 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal
> > > > > Services: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> > > > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> > > > > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
> > > > > helped. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the
> > > > > > problem is still
> > > > > > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > > > > seconds. --
> > > > > > Kevin Withers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "PA Bear" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
> > > > > > > > running, and I'm
> > > > > > > > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but
> > > > > > > > I've had these
> > > > > > > > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe
> > > > > > > > in the future
> > > > > > > > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > > > > > > better. I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's
> > > > > > > > 2Wire DSL
> > > > > > > > modem -
> > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE,
> > > > > > > > and because
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages
> > > > > > > > every one minute,
> > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched
> > > > > > > > > > for MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and
> > > > > > > > > > found nothing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it.
> > > > > > > > > You don't
> > > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls,
> > > > > > > > > etc. I have
> > > > > > > > > SBC
> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board
> > > > > > > > > is the Yahoo!
> > > > > > > > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to
> > > > > > > > > SBC-Y. If you are behind a router, let the router handle
> > > > > > > > > the PPPoE.
> > > > > > > > > Or, maybe
> > > > > > > > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the
> > > > > > > > > PPPoE. Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you
> > > > > > > > > shouldn't need any of
> > > > > > > > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is
> > > > > > > > > adequate; though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your
> > > > > > > > > SBC accounts,
> > > > > > > > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for
> > > > > > > > > new messages"
> > > > > > > > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
> > > > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > > > > > > > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > > > > > > > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

PA Bear

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Could be caused by overheating (It's that time of year again: Carefully
remove the cover of your processor, vacuum out all the gook & dust bunnies,
make sure fans are working properly), a problem with power supply or even a
monitor on its last legs.
--
~PA Bear

Kevin Withers wrote:
> Yup - WinXP SP2 is installed.
>
> Disabling NAV doesn't make any difference.
>
> However, I have noticed that there's a little bit of sporadic flickering
> in Visual Basic 6. The tool bar at the top sometimes flickers slightly
> at the same time that OE flickers. I can tell because OE flickers every
> 10 seconds, and once the flicker occurs in OE, if I switch tasks over to
> VB6, at the next 10 second mark the tool bar flickers slightly. It's not
> as pronounced as the flicker in OE, and sometimes it can't be seen at all.
>
> > Is WinXP SP2 installed?
> >
> > If you temporarily disable NAV, does the flickering persist?
> >
> > Does this flickering happen in any other application?
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >
> > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
> > > still there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > seconds.
> > >
> > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > >
> > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > --
> > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running,
> > > > > and I'm sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but
> > > > > I've had these running for quite some time now without a problem.
> > > > > Maybe in the future I'll replace them with some third-party
> > > > > solutions that are better.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL
> > > > > modem - no router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts
> > > > > in OE, and because I get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for
> > > > > new messages every one minute, which has never been a problem in
> > > > > the past.
> > <paste>
> > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as if
> > > it's refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in -
> > > Inbox, Deleted, etc. I've had some other intermittant strange things
> > > happen, like a minimized message that pops back up on its own, and
> > > adding a new contact which appears in the address book but not in the
> > > list of contacts in the lower left of the screen.
> > >
> > > But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just
> > > started the other day.
> > >
> > > Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook Express?
> > >
> > > I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
> > > AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up
> > > blocker, SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with
> > > AntiVirus, Ad aware 6, SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search &
> > > Destroy, and deleted the found ads, tracking cookies, etc. but it
> > > didn't help. I have no news accounts in my "Internet Accounts" list.

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Well, maybe... But the flicker only occurs in certain windows, and not the
entire screen. When the list of inbox messages in OE flickers, the other
portions of the screen - the contacts list, the folders list, etc., don't
flicker.
--
Kevin Withers

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Could be caused by overheating (It's that time of year again: Carefully
> remove the cover of your processor, vacuum out all the gook & dust bunnies,
> make sure fans are working properly), a problem with power supply or even a
> monitor on its last legs.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Kevin Withers wrote:
> > Yup - WinXP SP2 is installed.
> >
> > Disabling NAV doesn't make any difference.
> >
> > However, I have noticed that there's a little bit of sporadic flickering
> > in Visual Basic 6. The tool bar at the top sometimes flickers slightly
> > at the same time that OE flickers. I can tell because OE flickers every
> > 10 seconds, and once the flicker occurs in OE, if I switch tasks over to
> > VB6, at the next 10 second mark the tool bar flickers slightly. It's not
> > as pronounced as the flicker in OE, and sometimes it can't be seen at all.
> >
> > > Is WinXP SP2 installed?
> > >
> > > If you temporarily disable NAV, does the flickering persist?
> > >
> > > Does this flickering happen in any other application?
> > > --
> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > >
> > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
> > > > still there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > > seconds.
> > > >
> > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and running,
> > > > > > and I'm sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but
> > > > > > I've had these running for quite some time now without a problem.
> > > > > > Maybe in the future I'll replace them with some third-party
> > > > > > solutions that are better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL
> > > > > > modem - no router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts
> > > > > > in OE, and because I get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for
> > > > > > new messages every one minute, which has never been a problem in
> > > > > > the past.
> > > <paste>
> > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as if
> > > > it's refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in -
> > > > Inbox, Deleted, etc. I've had some other intermittant strange things
> > > > happen, like a minimized message that pops back up on its own, and
> > > > adding a new contact which appears in the address book but not in the
> > > > list of contacts in the lower left of the screen.
> > > >
> > > > But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just
> > > > started the other day.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook Express?
> > > >
> > > > I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
> > > > AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up
> > > > blocker, SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with
> > > > AntiVirus, Ad aware 6, SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search &
> > > > Destroy, and deleted the found ads, tracking cookies, etc. but it
> > > > didn't help. I have no news accounts in my "Internet Accounts" list.
>
>

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:27 PM

Ok. Then I guess that, if the links that you supplied don't help, then it's
probably time for an XP reinstall. Ugh.
--
Kevin Withers

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Hijackware infects the OS. If Windows is infected, reinstalling IE won't
> help one bit.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Kevin Withers wrote:
> > Thanks! It looks like I've got some work ahead of me.
> >
> > If nothing else works, I guess I'll try reinstalling IE.
> >
> > > Amplifying Steve's reply...
> > >
> > > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
> > > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > > --
> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Cochran wrote:
> > > > Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and
> > > > disable all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the
> > > > problem.
> > > > See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
> > > >
> > > > steve
> > > >
> > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from
> > > > > - it has
> > > > > to do with animation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I
> > > > > have to
> > > > > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> > > > > Manager?
> > > > > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> > > > > several
> > > > > times - could that be the problem?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kevin Withers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it
> > > > > > applies in your case:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal
> > > > > > Services: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> > > > > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> > > > > > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
> > > > > > helped. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the
> > > > > > > problem is still
> > > > > > > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > > > > > seconds. --
> > > > > > > Kevin Withers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "PA Bear" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
> > > > > > > > > running, and I'm
> > > > > > > > > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but
> > > > > > > > > I've had these
> > > > > > > > > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe
> > > > > > > > > in the future
> > > > > > > > > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > > > > > > > better. I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's
> > > > > > > > > 2Wire DSL
> > > > > > > > > modem -
> > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE,
> > > > > > > > > and because
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages
> > > > > > > > > every one minute,
> > > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched
> > > > > > > > > > > for MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and
> > > > > > > > > > > found nothing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it.
> > > > > > > > > > You don't
> > > > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls,
> > > > > > > > > > etc. I have
> > > > > > > > > > SBC
> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board
> > > > > > > > > > is the Yahoo!
> > > > > > > > > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to
> > > > > > > > > > SBC-Y. If you are behind a router, let the router handle
> > > > > > > > > > the PPPoE.
> > > > > > > > > > Or, maybe
> > > > > > > > > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the
> > > > > > > > > > PPPoE. Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you
> > > > > > > > > > shouldn't need any of
> > > > > > > > > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is
> > > > > > > > > > adequate; though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your
> > > > > > > > > > SBC accounts,
> > > > > > > > > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for
> > > > > > > > > > new messages"
> > > > > > > > > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
> > > > > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > > > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > > > > > > > > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > > > > > > > > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>

Steve Cochran

07-09-2005, 10:28 PM

Try updating your video drivers or reinstalling them.

steve

"Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:53022758-BFCC-4EEA-83E4-28D1A275F051@microsoft.com...
> Well, maybe... But the flicker only occurs in certain windows, and not
> the
> entire screen. When the list of inbox messages in OE flickers, the other
> portions of the screen - the contacts list, the folders list, etc., don't
> flicker.
> --
> Kevin Withers
>
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> Could be caused by overheating (It's that time of year again: Carefully
>> remove the cover of your processor, vacuum out all the gook & dust
>> bunnies,
>> make sure fans are working properly), a problem with power supply or even
>> a
>> monitor on its last legs.
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > Yup - WinXP SP2 is installed.
>> >
>> > Disabling NAV doesn't make any difference.
>> >
>> > However, I have noticed that there's a little bit of sporadic
>> > flickering
>> > in Visual Basic 6. The tool bar at the top sometimes flickers slightly
>> > at the same time that OE flickers. I can tell because OE flickers
>> > every
>> > 10 seconds, and once the flicker occurs in OE, if I switch tasks over
>> > to
>> > VB6, at the next 10 second mark the tool bar flickers slightly. It's
>> > not
>> > as pronounced as the flicker in OE, and sometimes it can't be seen at
>> > all.
>> >
>> > > Is WinXP SP2 installed?
>> > >
>> > > If you temporarily disable NAV, does the flickering persist?
>> > >
>> > > Does this flickering happen in any other application?
>> > > --
>> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>> > >
>> > > Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the problem is
>> > > > still there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every
>> > > > 10
>> > > > seconds.
>> > > >
>> > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
>> > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
>> > > > > > running,
>> > > > > > and I'm sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls,
>> > > > > > but
>> > > > > > I've had these running for quite some time now without a
>> > > > > > problem.
>> > > > > > Maybe in the future I'll replace them with some third-party
>> > > > > > solutions that are better.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's 2Wire DSL
>> > > > > > modem - no router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts
>> > > > > > in OE, and because I get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for
>> > > > > > new messages every one minute, which has never been a problem
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > the past.
>> > > <paste>
>> > > Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > > > Every 10 seconds, the message window in Outlook Express flickers as
>> > > > if
>> > > > it's refreshing itself. It doesn't matter which folder I'm in -
>> > > > Inbox, Deleted, etc. I've had some other intermittant strange
>> > > > things
>> > > > happen, like a minimized message that pops back up on its own, and
>> > > > adding a new contact which appears in the address book but not in
>> > > > the
>> > > > list of contacts in the lower left of the screen.
>> > > >
>> > > > But the flicker is driving me nuts. Every 10 seconds. This just
>> > > > started the other day.
>> > > >
>> > > > Any idea as to what's wrong? Or do I just reinstall Outlook
>> > > > Express?
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm using XP Pro on a 400Mhz PC. For protection I'm running Norton
>> > > > AntiVirus, Zone Labs Security ZoneAlarm, the SBC Yahoo! pop up
>> > > > blocker, SpywareBlaster, and WinPatrol. I've done sweeps with
>> > > > AntiVirus, Ad aware 6, SBC Yahoo! Anti-Spy, and Spybot Search &
>> > > > Destroy, and deleted the found ads, tracking cookies, etc. but it
>> > > > didn't help. I have no news accounts in my "Internet Accounts"
>> > > > list.
>>
>>

Kevin Withers

07-09-2005, 10:28 PM

I'm starting to see that this may be the case. Last night I found one other
application that suffers from the same flickering - ArcSoft ZoomBrowser EX -
it's photo management software that came with my Canon digital camera. It's
got the same 10 second flicker that OE has, so it looks like this is not
something that's hit just OE - it's probably hit the OS.

Thanks to all here for their help. I'm going to try the different
hijackware solutions. If nothing helps I'll reinstall Win XP.

Thanks again.
--
Kevin Withers

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Hijackware infects the OS. If Windows is infected, reinstalling IE won't
> help one bit.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Kevin Withers wrote:
> > Thanks! It looks like I've got some work ahead of me.
> >
> > If nothing else works, I guess I'll try reinstalling IE.
> >
> > > Amplifying Steve's reply...
> > >
> > > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
> > > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > > --
> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Cochran wrote:
> > > > Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and
> > > > disable all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the
> > > > problem.
> > > > See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
> > > >
> > > > steve
> > > >
> > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering from
> > > > > - it has
> > > > > to do with animation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full and I
> > > > > have to
> > > > > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my RAM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows Task
> > > > > Manager?
> > > > > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is listed
> > > > > several
> > > > > times - could that be the problem?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Kevin Withers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it
> > > > > > applies in your case:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal
> > > > > > Services: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> > > > > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> > > > > > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
> > > > > > helped. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the
> > > > > > > problem is still
> > > > > > > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every 10
> > > > > > > seconds. --
> > > > > > > Kevin Withers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "PA Bear" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
> > > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
> > > > > > > > > running, and I'm
> > > > > > > > > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but
> > > > > > > > > I've had these
> > > > > > > > > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe
> > > > > > > > > in the future
> > > > > > > > > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that are
> > > > > > > > > better. I'm connected directly to the Internet through SBC's
> > > > > > > > > 2Wire DSL
> > > > > > > > > modem -
> > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in OE,
> > > > > > > > > and because
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages
> > > > > > > > > every one minute,
> > > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched
> > > > > > > > > > > for MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and
> > > > > > > > > > > found nothing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop it.
> > > > > > > > > > You don't
> > > > > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls,
> > > > > > > > > > etc. I have
> > > > > > > > > > SBC
> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on board
> > > > > > > > > > is the Yahoo!
> > > > > > > > > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated to
> > > > > > > > > > SBC-Y. If you are behind a router, let the router handle
> > > > > > > > > > the PPPoE.
> > > > > > > > > > Or, maybe
> > > > > > > > > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles the
> > > > > > > > > > PPPoE. Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you
> > > > > > > > > > shouldn't need any of
> > > > > > > > > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer is
> > > > > > > > > > adequate; though I prefer other, better, browsers.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your
> > > > > > > > > > SBC accounts,
> > > > > > > > > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check for
> > > > > > > > > > new messages"
> > > > > > > > > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the flicker;
> > > > > > > > > > especially
> > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Norman
> > > > > > > > > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > > > > > > > > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > > > > > > > > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>

Steve Cochran

07-09-2005, 10:28 PM

I'll say again. Check the video drivers. Since its cross-program it could
indicate a video problem rather than malware.

steve

"Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3DA6DE03-417C-48B1-81F3-D3946D7D0089@microsoft.com...
> I'm starting to see that this may be the case. Last night I found one
> other
> application that suffers from the same flickering - ArcSoft ZoomBrowser
> EX -
> it's photo management software that came with my Canon digital camera.
> It's
> got the same 10 second flicker that OE has, so it looks like this is not
> something that's hit just OE - it's probably hit the OS.
>
> Thanks to all here for their help. I'm going to try the different
> hijackware solutions. If nothing helps I'll reinstall Win XP.
>
> Thanks again.
> --
> Kevin Withers
>
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> Hijackware infects the OS. If Windows is infected, reinstalling IE won't
>> help one bit.
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > Thanks! It looks like I've got some work ahead of me.
>> >
>> > If nothing else works, I guess I'll try reinstalling IE.
>> >
>> > > Amplifying Steve's reply...
>> > >
>> > > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
>> > > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>> > > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>> > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
>> > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html
>> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
>> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/tshoot.html
>> > > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
>> > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>> > > --
>> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Steve Cochran wrote:
>> > > > Sounds like spyware. Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig
>> > > > and
>> > > > disable all startup items and then see if that has an impact on the
>> > > > problem.
>> > > > See also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#10 for spyware removal links.
>> > > >
>> > > > steve
>> > > >
>> > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> > > > news:56C5ED95-7FBC-406B-8B21-4DB8D3A90275@microsoft.com...
>> > > > > I read through it and it doesn't sound like what I'm suffering
>> > > > > from
>> > > > > - it has
>> > > > > to do with animation.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have noticed one other thing. After a while, my RAM is full
>> > > > > and I
>> > > > > have to
>> > > > > close everything down and reboot. Whatever this is eats up my
>> > > > > RAM.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is there a way to find what's doing this by using the Windows
>> > > > > Task
>> > > > > Manager?
>> > > > > If so, what should I look for? I notice that SVCHOST.EXE is
>> > > > > listed
>> > > > > several
>> > > > > times - could that be the problem?
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Kevin Withers
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Jim Pickering" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Doubtful, but you might review this article if any part of it
>> > > > > > applies in your case:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 271246 - Screen May Flicker Using Internet Explorer on Terminal
>> > > > > > Services: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271246
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>> > > > > > https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
>> > > > > > Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
>> > > > > > helped. Thanks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "Kevin Withers" <k.withers(*at*)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> > > > > > news:9BD96043-A165-41C4-9328-8F8AAC3F7258@microsoft.com...
>> > > > > > > Set it for 10 minutes, clicked "Apply" and "Ok," and the
>> > > > > > > problem is still
>> > > > > > > there. Shut down OE and restarted it, still flickers every
>> > > > > > > 10
>> > > > > > > seconds. --
>> > > > > > > Kevin Withers
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "PA Bear" wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > ...I have OE checking for new messages every one minute,
>> > > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Reset this to 10 minutes and see if the problem persists.
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> > > > > > > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > I do have those other SBC Yahoo! features installed and
>> > > > > > > > > running, and I'm
>> > > > > > > > > sure there are better pop-up blockers and firewalls, but
>> > > > > > > > > I've had these
>> > > > > > > > > running for quite some time now without a problem. Maybe
>> > > > > > > > > in the future
>> > > > > > > > > I'll replace them with some third-party solutions that
>> > > > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > > better. I'm connected directly to the Internet through
>> > > > > > > > > SBC's
>> > > > > > > > > 2Wire DSL
>> > > > > > > > > modem -
>> > > > > > > > > no
>> > > > > > > > > router involved. I also have no other POP3 accounts in
>> > > > > > > > > OE,
>> > > > > > > > > and because
>> > > > > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > > > get a lot of e-mail I have OE checking for new messages
>> > > > > > > > > every one minute,
>> > > > > > > > > which has never been a problem in the past.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:45:19 -0700, Kevin Withers wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Nope - no Motive SmartBridge listed. I also searched
>> > > > > > > > > > > for MOTIVESB.EXE on the hard drive just in case, and
>> > > > > > > > > > > found nothing.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > You do have other SBC Yahoo! software installed? Drop
>> > > > > > > > > > it.
>> > > > > > > > > > You don't
>> > > > > > > > > > need
>> > > > > > > > > > it. There are better pop-up blockers, better firewalls,
>> > > > > > > > > > etc. I have
>> > > > > > > > > > SBC
>> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! DSL Service, and the only Yahoo! software on
>> > > > > > > > > > board
>> > > > > > > > > > is the Yahoo!
>> > > > > > > > > > Messenger client, which was installed before I migrated
>> > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > SBC-Y. If you are behind a router, let the router
>> > > > > > > > > > handle
>> > > > > > > > > > the PPPoE.
>> > > > > > > > > > Or, maybe
>> > > > > > > > > > you have one of the slick new DSL modems which handles
>> > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > PPPoE. Windows XP also includes a PPPoE client, so you
>> > > > > > > > > > shouldn't need any of
>> > > > > > > > > > the SBC stuff. Even the browser; MS Internet Explorer
>> > > > > > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > > > > adequate; though I prefer other, better, browsers.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > One thought, though; how often is MSOE set to poll your
>> > > > > > > > > > SBC accounts,
>> > > > > > > > > > and how many sub accounts are you polling? If "Check
>> > > > > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > > new messages"
>> > > > > > > > > > is set to 10 seconds, maybe that is causing the
>> > > > > > > > > > flicker;
>> > > > > > > > > > especially
>> > > > > > > > > > if
>> > > > > > > > > > you are polling more that one POP3 account.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > Norman
>> > > > > > > > > > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
>> > > > > > > > > > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
>> > > > > > > > > > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>>
>>