[Blair]

Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and in
the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid" after my
email address.
For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to my
correct email address.
It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid" and
getting my email address.
What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email address to
avoid this?
Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Blair

[Jim Macklin]

It works, except the spammer uses a system to alter their
sending address, by-passing the simple block. You need a
proper mail scanning program that looks at the sender,
subject and even the content of the email and sorts it into
folders. Looks for "spam filters" on Google.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly
had my proper
| email address in News groups) I decided to change my email
address and in
| the case of news groups I read that I should add the word
"invalid" after my
| email address.
| For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently
I have been
| getting on or two messages about my bank account and my
password sent to my
| correct email address.
| It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the
word "invalid" and
| getting my email address.
| What I would like to know is how should I have disguised
my email address to
| avoid this?
| Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a
facility of blocking
| the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
|
| Blair
|
|

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...> Because I was receiving a
large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
> email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and in
> the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid" after
> my
> email address.
> For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
> getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to
> my
> correct email address.
> It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid" and
> getting my email address.
> What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email address
> to
> avoid this?
> Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
> the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
>
> Blair
>
>

Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail address are
defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address harvesting
software now know to remove these common disguises.
So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised address at
all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.


--

Regards,

Mike
--
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
newsgroups

"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
> email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and in
> the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid" after
> my
> email address.
> For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
> getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to
> my
> correct email address.
> It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid" and
> getting my email address.
> What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email address
> to
> avoid this?
> Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
> the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
>
> Blair
>
>

[CWatters]

"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of blocking
> the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?

Not really because spammers change their address frequently - sometimes
several times an hour or more.

I find the following two rules work reasonably well...

Move spam to folder X "except with <your email address> in the recipients
address".

and perhaps...

Move spam to folder Y "unless from contact"

[Treeman]

Blair,
Take a look here;
'iHateSpam' (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/iHateSpam.cfm)
I Hate Spam. Have used it for years and am happy with the product.
Treeman


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[Blair]

--
Blair Malcolm
"Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u6n0k8XcFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...> Because I was receiving a
> large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
> > email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and
in
> > the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid"
after
> > my
> > email address.
> > For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
> > getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent to
> > my
> > correct email address.
> > It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid"
and
> > getting my email address.
> > What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email
address
> > to
> > avoid this?
> > Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of
blocking
> > the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
> >
> > Blair
> >
> >
>
> Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail address are
> defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address harvesting
> software now know to remove these common disguises.
> So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised address at
> all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
> --
> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
>
> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
> newsgroups
>
Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
address when posting to a news group.
I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
Blair

[Blair]

I used to have Mailwasher which did delete all the Spam but I found that I
had about 100 per day and Mailwasher had to deal with this but it took time
and I had to check to see if any of my legitimate mail was included.
I then changed my address, discontinued Mailwasher and had a year without
any Spam until recently.
I am concerned if I go back to Mailwasher I might get a lot more Spam
Blair


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:eXR7NHXcFHA.3912@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> It works, except the spammer uses a system to alter their
> sending address, by-passing the simple block. You need a
> proper mail scanning program that looks at the sender,
> subject and even the content of the email and sorts it into
> folders. Looks for "spam filters" on Google.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
> "Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly
> had my proper
> | email address in News groups) I decided to change my email
> address and in
> | the case of news groups I read that I should add the word
> "invalid" after my
> | email address.
> | For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently
> I have been
> | getting on or two messages about my bank account and my
> password sent to my
> | correct email address.
> | It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the
> word "invalid" and
> | getting my email address.
> | What I would like to know is how should I have disguised
> my email address to
> | avoid this?
> | Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a
> facility of blocking
> | the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
> |
> | Blair
> |
> |
>
>

[gls858]

I just use a free yahoo account. They have a spam filter
that will stop a lot of the crap and eventually delete it.
Or you can always abandon it and get another.

gls858

[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

> Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
> address when posting to a news group.
> I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
> Blair
>

IN your newsgroup client just put in any old garbage. you may have to put an
@ symbol somewhere (e.g. sdfdfsdsd212123@dfnwenwe.fmnene7334.sdjj) in it but
most newsreaders do not check for a well formed or valid address.

--

Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights

Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
newsgroups

"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:ef$dQSccFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>
> --
> Blair Malcolm
> "Mike Brannigan [MSFT]" <mikebran@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:u6n0k8XcFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...> Because I was receiving
>> a
>> large amount of Spam (I stupidly had my proper
>> > email address in News groups) I decided to change my email address and
> in
>> > the case of news groups I read that I should add the word "invalid"
> after
>> > my
>> > email address.
>> > For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently I have been
>> > getting on or two messages about my bank account and my password sent
>> > to
>> > my
>> > correct email address.
>> > It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the word "invalid"
> and
>> > getting my email address.
>> > What I would like to know is how should I have disguised my email
> address
>> > to
>> > avoid this?
>> > Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a facility of
> blocking
>> > the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
>> >
>> > Blair
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail address are
>> defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address harvesting
>> software now know to remove these common disguises.
>> So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised address at
>> all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike
>> --
>> Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights
>>
>> Please note I cannot respond to e-mailed questions, please use these
>> newsgroups
>>
> Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
> address when posting to a news group.
> I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
> Blair
>
>

[tfw48079]

I have 2 email accounts. One for bank and other restricted sites and one for
everyone else.

"Treeman" wrote:

>
> Blair,
> Take a look here;
> 'iHateSpam' (http://www.sunbelt-software.com/iHateSpam.cfm)
> I Hate Spam. Have used it for years and am happy with the product.
> Treeman
>
>
> --
> Treeman
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> View this thread: http://www.msusenet.com/t-1870537285
>
>

[Sharon F]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:09:03 +0100, Blair wrote:

> Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could not use any
> address when posting to a news group.
> I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.

It depends. Some news servers require a valid email address. These are
usually news servers that you subscribe to (paid subscription). However
even these are now offering alternatives for their customers so that they
can avoid the spam deluge that results when posting with a real address.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

[Ken Blake]

In news:ef$dQSccFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Blair <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> typed:


>> Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
>> address
>> are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address
>> harvesting software now know to remove these common disguises.
>> So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised
>> address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike


> Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could
> not
> use any address when posting to a news group.
> I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.


You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
one. What he means is don't do something as simple as inserting
the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.

So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid, use a completely false one,
something like sdahgadsfh@yuwueqyt.com

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

[Blair]

"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:OUumWCgcFHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> In news:ef$dQSccFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> Blair <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> typed:
>
>
> >> Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
> >> address
> >> are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address
> >> harvesting software now know to remove these common disguises.
> >> So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised
> >> address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mike
>
>
> > Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could
> > not
> > use any address when posting to a news group.
> > I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
>
>
> You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
> one. What he means is don't do something as simple as inserting
> the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
> E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.
>
> So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
> pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid, use a completely false one,
> something like sdahgadsfh@yuwueqyt.com
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to have a proper
address with an addition for security. Would this apply to Wanadoo?
Blair

[John Smith.....b]

--
>+----------+
>| PLEASE |
>| DO NOT |
>| FEED THE |
>| TROLLS |
>+----------+
> | |
> | |
> .\|.||/..
>
>
>
>
>
>
"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23ro3E1icFHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:OUumWCgcFHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > In news:ef$dQSccFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> > Blair <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> typed:
> >
> >
> > >> Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
> > >> address
> > >> are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail address
> > >> harvesting software now know to remove these common disguises.
> > >> So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or disguised
> > >> address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup reader.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> >
> >
> > > Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I could
> > > not
> > > use any address when posting to a news group.
> > > I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
> >
> >
> > You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
> > one. What he means is don't do something as simple as inserting
> > the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
> > E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.
> >
> > So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
> > pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid, use a completely false one,
> > something like sdahgadsfh@yuwueqyt.com
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> > Please reply to the newsgroup
> >
> Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to have a
proper
> address with an addition for security. Would this apply to Wanadoo?
> Blair
>
>

[Ken Blake]

In news:%23ro3E1icFHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
Blair <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> typed:

> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:OUumWCgcFHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> In news:ef$dQSccFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
>> Blair <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> typed:
>>
>>
>>>> Almost all of the common methods for disguising your e-mail
>>>> address
>>>> are defeated simply. As they are "common" most e-mail
>>>> address
>>>> harvesting software now know to remove these common
>>>> disguises.
>>>> So the best thing is to not use any form of valid or
>>>> disguised
>>>> address at all in your configuration of your newsgroup
>>>> reader.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for your explanation but I don't understand how I
>>> could
>>> not
>>> use any address when posting to a news group.
>>> I always thought that it was necessary to have an address.
>>
>>
>> You have to have an address, but it doesn't have to be a valid
>> one. What he means is don't do something as simple as
>> inserting
>> the word "invalid" or "nospam" in your address, because the
>> E-mail harvesters just remove words like that automatically.
>>
>> So instead of disguising your address, calling yourself
>> pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid, use a completely false one,
>> something like sdahgadsfh@yuwueqyt.com
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup

> Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to
> have a
> proper address with an addition for security. Would this apply
> to
> Wanadoo?


You're welcome. Sorry, I don't know anything about wanadoo's
requirements.

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup

[Sharon F]

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:38:35 +0100, Blair wrote:

> Thanks. Someone is suggesting that certain ISPs require you to have a proper
> address with an addition for security. Would this apply to Wanadoo?

Blair, if it is a requirement of your news service, it would be listed in
their FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) or in their Terms of Service. And
it would only apply using their servers.

The MS servers are free. You may use your ISP to go online but you are
interacting directly with the MS news servers when you subscribe to them.
Subscribing is a simple matter of setting them up in your news reader and
you are allowed to mung your address.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

[Andrew Murray]

does your ISP have a "tagging" service where it tags the spam, to make it
easy for you to filter the junk?

My isp has a service where it tags messages with "[iispam]" so I just say in
my filters "With all messages containing [iispam] in Subject Line, Delete
it" I still get the spam but it's easier just to hit the delete key because
I know which is spam and which isn't.



"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23igQ$VccFHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> I used to have Mailwasher which did delete all the Spam but I found that I
> had about 100 per day and Mailwasher had to deal with this but it took
> time
> and I had to check to see if any of my legitimate mail was included.
> I then changed my address, discontinued Mailwasher and had a year without
> any Spam until recently.
> I am concerned if I go back to Mailwasher I might get a lot more Spam
> Blair
>
>
> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> news:eXR7NHXcFHA.3912@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> It works, except the spammer uses a system to alter their
>> sending address, by-passing the simple block. You need a
>> proper mail scanning program that looks at the sender,
>> subject and even the content of the email and sorts it into
>> folders. Looks for "spam filters" on Google.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
>> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>> some support
>> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23IyB3fWcFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> | Because I was receiving a large amount of Spam (I stupidly
>> had my proper
>> | email address in News groups) I decided to change my email
>> address and in
>> | the case of news groups I read that I should add the word
>> "invalid" after my
>> | email address.
>> | For the last year I received no Spam at all until recently
>> I have been
>> | getting on or two messages about my bank account and my
>> password sent to my
>> | correct email address.
>> | It looks as though someone has a system of deleting the
>> word "invalid" and
>> | getting my email address.
>> | What I would like to know is how should I have disguised
>> my email address to
>> | avoid this?
>> | Finally I noticed that in Outlook Express there is a
>> facility of blocking
>> | the sender, which I have used. Does this facility work?
>> |
>> | Blair
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>