XP2 deleted my mail. Tried recovery without result



arrownet
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Dear clever folks;

With reference to the post from Don Goyette from May 19th 2005
"OutlookExpress compacting folders automatically", I can report that I, as
many others, have had the same problem.

I have however had a disastrous side-effect aswell !

Being fed-up with the time- and processor-consuming compacting process, I
clicked on "cancel", but it didn't stop the process. I think I also tried
ctrl-alt-del one or more times.

As from yesterday, half of my some 70 mailboxes are now empty. The rest of
them seem to have escaped the death patrol.

Adviced from a Danish news group I used a tool called DBXtract to try to
recover the content of those mailboxes. The programme could see the
mailboxes allright, but, just like OE, it couldn't see the mail that were in
them.
I also tried a similar programme called OE-recovery from
www.oemailrecovery.com , but same result.
I tried an ordinary undelete programme, but of possible interest, I found
only some files called GLA3A4.TEMP and wbk33e.temp , and many similar files
beginning with GLA and KWB but other numbers before temp. Could they be
related to the lost files ?

We are talking mail sent and recieved over the last 10 years, both private
ones with great personal value, and business ones without which I will have
to do an unestimable lot of extra work in the future.


Any help is appreciated. I did my last email back up some 2½ years ago :-(


Peter






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PA Bear
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Why it happened:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx

Recovering your data:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
~~~~~~~~~~
Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform your own
manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm.

Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

arrownet wrote:
> Dear clever folks;
>
> With reference to the post from Don Goyette from May 19th 2005
> "OutlookExpress compacting folders automatically", I can report that I, as
> many others, have had the same problem.
>
> I have however had a disastrous side-effect aswell !
>
> Being fed-up with the time- and processor-consuming compacting process, I
> clicked on "cancel", but it didn't stop the process. I think I also tried
> ctrl-alt-del one or more times.
>
> As from yesterday, half of my some 70 mailboxes are now empty. The rest of
> them seem to have escaped the death patrol.
>
> Adviced from a Danish news group I used a tool called DBXtract to try to
> recover the content of those mailboxes. The programme could see the
> mailboxes allright, but, just like OE, it couldn't see the mail that were
> in
> them.
> I also tried a similar programme called OE-recovery from
> www.oemailrecovery.com , but same result.
> I tried an ordinary undelete programme, but of possible interest, I found
> only some files called GLA3A4.TEMP and wbk33e.temp , and many similar
> files
> beginning with GLA and KWB but other numbers before temp. Could they be
> related to the lost files ?
>
> We are talking mail sent and recieved over the last 10 years, both private
> ones with great personal value, and business ones without which I will
> have
> to do an unestimable lot of extra work in the future.
>
>
> Any help is appreciated. I did my last email back up some 2½ years ago :-(
>
>
> Peter

Kath Adams
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
arrownet wrote:
> Dear clever folks;
>
> With reference to the post from Don Goyette from May 19th 2005
> "OutlookExpress compacting folders automatically", I can report that
> I, as many others, have had the same problem.
>
> I have however had a disastrous side-effect aswell !
>
> Being fed-up with the time- and processor-consuming compacting
> process, I clicked on "cancel", but it didn't stop the process. I
> think I also tried ctrl-alt-del one or more times.
>
> As from yesterday, half of my some 70 mailboxes are now empty. The
> rest of them seem to have escaped the death patrol.
>
> Adviced from a Danish news group I used a tool called DBXtract to try
> to recover the content of those mailboxes. The programme could see the
> mailboxes allright, but, just like OE, it couldn't see the mail that
> were in them.
> I also tried a similar programme called OE-recovery from
> www.oemailrecovery.com , but same result.
> I tried an ordinary undelete programme, but of possible interest, I
> found only some files called GLA3A4.TEMP and wbk33e.temp , and many
> similar files beginning with GLA and KWB but other numbers before
> temp. Could they be related to the lost files ?
>
> We are talking mail sent and recieved over the last 10 years, both
> private ones with great personal value, and business ones without
> which I will have to do an unestimable lot of extra work in the
> future.
>
> Any help is appreciated. I did my last email back up some 2½ years
> ago :-(
>
> Peter

Whoops! Please follow PA Bear's advice.
But what is puzzling me is why on earth was your last backup 2 1/2 years
ago, especially if the mail was so important?
I do mine once a week.
I'm not picking on you, yours happened to be the first post I clicked on
tonight, but so many times in this very NG do we read of loss of mail
with no backups whatever. Blank CD's are so cheap nowadays?
Good luck with your recovery.
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/index.htm

--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Kath Adams wrote:
> But what is puzzling me is why on earth was your last backup 2 1/2 years
> ago, especially if the mail was so important?
> I do mine once a week.

Will you do mine? Do you do Windows? <eg>
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

arrownet
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Thanks Kath;

You have a point. If the mails were so drop dead important, then why didn't
I make a regular backup ?
Well, I think human beings are like that... When things just work and work
and work for years, then you get confident that they will also do so in the
future.

How was I supposed to know that SP2, the great security solution, was the
one that would destroy things for me ? Well maybe reading all about it
before updating, but then I wouldn't have time to have a life aside.

I wonder if the solutions kindly suggested by PABEAR will have a chance of
working even if DBEXTRACT and oerecovery didn't help at all.

I have now bought DBXpress and will see if that program is more effective.


Peter


"Kath Adams" <kathadams@(nospam)mvps.org> skrev i en meddelelse
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> arrownet wrote:
>> Dear clever folks;
>>
>> With reference to the post from Don Goyette from May 19th 2005
>> "OutlookExpress compacting folders automatically", I can report that
>> I, as many others, have had the same problem.
>>
>> I have however had a disastrous side-effect aswell !
>>
>> Being fed-up with the time- and processor-consuming compacting
>> process, I clicked on "cancel", but it didn't stop the process. I
>> think I also tried ctrl-alt-del one or more times.
>>
>> As from yesterday, half of my some 70 mailboxes are now empty. The
>> rest of them seem to have escaped the death patrol.
>>
>> Adviced from a Danish news group I used a tool called DBXtract to try
>> to recover the content of those mailboxes. The programme could see the
>> mailboxes allright, but, just like OE, it couldn't see the mail that
>> were in them.
>> I also tried a similar programme called OE-recovery from
>> www.oemailrecovery.com , but same result.
>> I tried an ordinary undelete programme, but of possible interest, I
>> found only some files called GLA3A4.TEMP and wbk33e.temp , and many
>> similar files beginning with GLA and KWB but other numbers before
>> temp. Could they be related to the lost files ?
>>
>> We are talking mail sent and recieved over the last 10 years, both
>> private ones with great personal value, and business ones without
>> which I will have to do an unestimable lot of extra work in the
>> future.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated. I did my last email back up some 2½ years
>> ago :-(
>>
>> Peter
>
> Whoops! Please follow PA Bear's advice.
> But what is puzzling me is why on earth was your last backup 2 1/2 years
> ago, especially if the mail was so important?
> I do mine once a week.
> I'm not picking on you, yours happened to be the first post I clicked on
> tonight, but so many times in this very NG do we read of loss of mail with
> no backups whatever. Blank CD's are so cheap nowadays?
> Good luck with your recovery.
> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/index.htm
>
> --
> Kath Adams
> MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)
>
>

Kath Adams
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
PA Bear wrote:
> Kath Adams wrote:
>> But what is puzzling me is why on earth was your last backup 2 1/2
>> years ago, especially if the mail was so important?
>> I do mine once a week.
>
> Will you do mine? Do you do Windows? <eg>

Certainly sir, Windows version? <vbg>

--
Kath Adams
MS MVP - Windows (IE/OE)

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Kath Adams wrote:
>>> But what is puzzling me is why on earth was your last backup 2 1/2
>>> years ago, especially if the mail was so important?
>>> I do mine once a week.
>>
>> Will you do mine? Do you do Windows? <eg>
>
> Certainly sir, Windows version? <vbg>

It was a dirty install and they're still that way.


XP2 deleted my mail. Tried recovery without result