A not-so-funny-thing



jb
07-09-2005, 10:19 PM
happened to my outlook (express 6) this am.

Computer is on line at all times (DSL) - firewalled and Norton and windoz
virus things running.

Running XP - sp2 - Great until this am.

started the news reader (outlook) - machine "froze"
and appeared that outlook was not starting....
waited about 3-5 min or so.... still "froze"
- hit the restart button.... (not too hard tho)...

computer restarted OK... opened M$office Outlook for e-mail and then started
the newser thing outlook 6.0).... this time we started up great - opened up
nice and when I looked at the "subscribed to folders" - there were about 40
or more NEW subscribed folders.... (most were not family related)....

shut down - restarted in safe mode - no internet hookup - - -ran ad-aware
and spy bot - Norton and windoz in safe mode.... nada - was cleanest and
pure ????

Something IS not ok - Any ideas please?

Thanks in advance - john b - Wisconsin Cheesehead....

reply either to the group or direct to -
johnbuser.removebetweenthedot@sbcglobal.net

Jim Pickering
07-09-2005, 10:19 PM
John: You'll get better help with Outlook at one of the newsgroups below.
This one is for Outlook Express ONLY, since the programs are quite
different:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Calendaring
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.configuration
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Contacts
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Fax
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.General
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.installation
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.interop
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.printing
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Program_AddIns
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.program_forms
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Program_VBA
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.ThirdPartyUtil
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6

Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped. No
one gets paid to help here, and the response rate from those that are helped
is less than 4-5%. If that were how medical advancements were made we would
all have died years ago. Thanks.






"jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:A8Qge.997$yn.319@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> happened to my outlook (express 6) this am.
>
> Computer is on line at all times (DSL) - firewalled and Norton and windoz
> virus things running.
>
> Running XP - sp2 - Great until this am.
>
> started the news reader (outlook) - machine "froze"
> and appeared that outlook was not starting....
> waited about 3-5 min or so.... still "froze"
> - hit the restart button.... (not too hard tho)...
>
> computer restarted OK... opened M$office Outlook for e-mail and then
> started
> the newser thing outlook 6.0).... this time we started up great - opened
> up
> nice and when I looked at the "subscribed to folders" - there were about
> 40
> or more NEW subscribed folders.... (most were not family related)....
>
> shut down - restarted in safe mode - no internet hookup - - -ran ad-aware
> and spy bot - Norton and windoz in safe mode.... nada - was cleanest and
> pure ????
>
> Something IS not ok - Any ideas please?
>
> Thanks in advance - john b - Wisconsin Cheesehead....
>
> reply either to the group or direct to -
> johnbuser.removebetweenthedot@sbcglobal.net
>
>
>

jb
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
please have another look at the first line of my message

"happened to my outlook (express 6) this am."

I believe this is the place to get help - ???????

john b




"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23jXIvY0VFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> John: You'll get better help with Outlook at one of the newsgroups below.
> This one is for Outlook Express ONLY, since the programs are quite
> different:
>
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Calendaring
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.configuration
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Contacts
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Fax
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.General
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.installation
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.interop
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.printing
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Program_AddIns
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.program_forms
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Program_VBA
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.ThirdPartyUtil
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
>
> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped. No
> one gets paid to help here, and the response rate from those that are
> helped is less than 4-5%. If that were how medical advancements were made
> we would all have died years ago. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:A8Qge.997$yn.319@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>> happened to my outlook (express 6) this am.
>>
>> Computer is on line at all times (DSL) - firewalled and Norton and windoz
>> virus things running.
>>
>> Running XP - sp2 - Great until this am.
>>
>> started the news reader (outlook) - machine "froze"
>> and appeared that outlook was not starting....
>> waited about 3-5 min or so.... still "froze"
>> - hit the restart button.... (not too hard tho)...
>>
>> computer restarted OK... opened M$office Outlook for e-mail and then
>> started
>> the newser thing outlook 6.0).... this time we started up great - opened
>> up
>> nice and when I looked at the "subscribed to folders" - there were about
>> 40
>> or more NEW subscribed folders.... (most were not family related)....
>>
>> shut down - restarted in safe mode - no internet hookup - - -ran ad-aware
>> and spy bot - Norton and windoz in safe mode.... nada - was cleanest and
>> pure ????
>>
>> Something IS not ok - Any ideas please?
>>
>> Thanks in advance - john b - Wisconsin Cheesehead....
>>
>> reply either to the group or direct to -
>> johnbuser.removebetweenthedot@sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Jim Pickering
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
John: You confused the issue with this type of language:

"computer restarted OK... opened M$office Outlook for e-mail and then
started the newser thing outlook 6.0).... this time we started up great -
opened"

So, is the problem only when you use the news reader in Outlook Express?
How do you invoke the news reader? Do you use the Go to News choice on
Outlook's menu or some other means? If you do not use Outlook Express for
mail at all, what sort of help do you need? Your postings are not really
clear.

Please reply with examples of error messages, listing of these random
folders you say have been created, and provide some info as to the version
numbers shown in the Help/About screen for Outlook Express. Also tell us
what, if any, antivirus product you are using and whether or not it was ever
running in the background during an upgrade to either Internet Explorer or
Outlook Express or any other Critical Update for your computer.

My suspicion is that your computer is infected with some type of parasite
and you might want to review the info here:
http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.php#malware

And for a quick check:
http://aumha.org/a/noads.php
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6



"jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:K86he.1192$jj3.29@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> please have another look at the first line of my message
>
> "happened to my outlook (express 6) this am."
>
> I believe this is the place to get help - ???????
>
> john b
>
>
>
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23jXIvY0VFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> John: You'll get better help with Outlook at one of the newsgroups
>> below. This one is for Outlook Express ONLY, since the programs are quite
>> different:
>>
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Calendaring
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.configuration
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Contacts
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Fax
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.General
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.installation
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.interop
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.printing
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Program_AddIns
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.program_forms
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.Program_VBA
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook.ThirdPartyUtil
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
>>
>> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
>> No one gets paid to help here, and the response rate from those that are
>> helped is less than 4-5%. If that were how medical advancements were made
>> we would all have died years ago. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:A8Qge.997$yn.319@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>>> happened to my outlook (express 6) this am.
>>>
>>> Computer is on line at all times (DSL) - firewalled and Norton and
>>> windoz
>>> virus things running.
>>>
>>> Running XP - sp2 - Great until this am.
>>>
>>> started the news reader (outlook) - machine "froze"
>>> and appeared that outlook was not starting....
>>> waited about 3-5 min or so.... still "froze"
>>> - hit the restart button.... (not too hard tho)...
>>>
>>> computer restarted OK... opened M$office Outlook for e-mail and then
>>> started
>>> the newser thing outlook 6.0).... this time we started up great - opened
>>> up
>>> nice and when I looked at the "subscribed to folders" - there were about
>>> 40
>>> or more NEW subscribed folders.... (most were not family related)....
>>>
>>> shut down - restarted in safe mode - no internet hookup - - -ran
>>> ad-aware
>>> and spy bot - Norton and windoz in safe mode.... nada - was cleanest and
>>> pure ????
>>>
>>> Something IS not ok - Any ideas please?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance - john b - Wisconsin Cheesehead....
>>>
>>> reply either to the group or direct to -
>>> johnbuser.removebetweenthedot@sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

jb
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
I guess that humor is not funny at times - sorry!!

to renerate:

one day I started my Microsoft outlook express 6.0 from the office 2000
"news button". (as I have done for years or so)

that day the Microsoft outlook express 6.0 appeared to be hung up in
starting. (in newsgroups only - not used for mail)

I just ignored it for a while hoping for self recovery.. after 5 min or so
it was still hung, so I needed to restart the computer because there was no
way to break the program. (windoz task manager)

when the computer restarted, I went to the News reader (which is not
configured for mail) to read the news, and there were 50 or more NEW
'subscriptions" to various newsgroups, none of which were family
orientated.....

I shut down the computer
removed from the internet
restarted in safe mode
ran ad-aware
spybot
Norton
windoz spy and scan programs.

there were some hits and they were removed. I scan every other day or so..
and Norton and windoz run every early am .. as in practicing safe computing
......

then I restarted, went and removed the unnecessary news item subscriptions
and are moving on.

the general question is ---- is this a common thing? or is it must me?? or
is it going around??

I posted for advice and general information for the group, in case this was
a fad starting......

sorry if I insulted or offended someone, advice was asked and advice will be
taken, again sorry if I was not politically correct in my original post.
(humor is nice in life, I try to find some every day)

john b

AND, thanks for the "removal advice" - I have just ran the cwschredder,
ad-aware, and spybot again - with NO hits..... go figgure ????

thanks for the help and standing by for whatever is available....

returning to lurk mode (maybe forever)

Alias
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Sounds like someone - a person - has been playing with your news reader. Do
the subscriptions come back once you've deleted them?

Alias

"jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote

>I guess that humor is not funny at times - sorry!!
>
> to renerate:
>
> one day I started my Microsoft outlook express 6.0 from the office 2000
> "news button". (as I have done for years or so)
>
> that day the Microsoft outlook express 6.0 appeared to be hung up in
> starting. (in newsgroups only - not used for mail)
>
> I just ignored it for a while hoping for self recovery.. after 5 min or
> so it was still hung, so I needed to restart the computer because there
> was no way to break the program. (windoz task manager)
>
> when the computer restarted, I went to the News reader (which is not
> configured for mail) to read the news, and there were 50 or more NEW
> 'subscriptions" to various newsgroups, none of which were family
> orientated.....
>
> I shut down the computer
> removed from the internet
> restarted in safe mode
> ran ad-aware
> spybot
> Norton
> windoz spy and scan programs.
>
> there were some hits and they were removed. I scan every other day or
> so.. and Norton and windoz run every early am .. as in practicing safe
> computing .....
>
> then I restarted, went and removed the unnecessary news item subscriptions
> and are moving on.
>
> the general question is ---- is this a common thing? or is it must me??
> or is it going around??
>
> I posted for advice and general information for the group, in case this
> was a fad starting......
>
> sorry if I insulted or offended someone, advice was asked and advice will
> be taken, again sorry if I was not politically correct in my original
> post. (humor is nice in life, I try to find some every day)
>
> john b
>
> AND, thanks for the "removal advice" - I have just ran the cwschredder,
> ad-aware, and spybot again - with NO hits..... go figgure ????
>
> thanks for the help and standing by for whatever is available....
>
> returning to lurk mode (maybe forever)
>
>
>

Jim Pickering
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
First suspect would be some type of parasite, most likely picked up when
browsing the web. See these links for some help:

Go here for info:
http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.php#malware

And for a quick check:
http://aumha.org/a/noads.php

If neither site is helpful, then post back.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6



"jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%Pnhe.1267$0A5.894@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>I guess that humor is not funny at times - sorry!!
>
> to renerate:
>
> one day I started my Microsoft outlook express 6.0 from the office 2000
> "news button". (as I have done for years or so)
>
> that day the Microsoft outlook express 6.0 appeared to be hung up in
> starting. (in newsgroups only - not used for mail)
>
> I just ignored it for a while hoping for self recovery.. after 5 min or
> so it was still hung, so I needed to restart the computer because there
> was no way to break the program. (windoz task manager)
>
> when the computer restarted, I went to the News reader (which is not
> configured for mail) to read the news, and there were 50 or more NEW
> 'subscriptions" to various newsgroups, none of which were family
> orientated.....
>
> I shut down the computer
> removed from the internet
> restarted in safe mode
> ran ad-aware
> spybot
> Norton
> windoz spy and scan programs.
>
> there were some hits and they were removed. I scan every other day or
> so.. and Norton and windoz run every early am .. as in practicing safe
> computing .....
>
> then I restarted, went and removed the unnecessary news item subscriptions
> and are moving on.
>
> the general question is ---- is this a common thing? or is it must me??
> or is it going around??
>
> I posted for advice and general information for the group, in case this
> was a fad starting......
>
> sorry if I insulted or offended someone, advice was asked and advice will
> be taken, again sorry if I was not politically correct in my original
> post. (humor is nice in life, I try to find some every day)
>
> john b
>
> AND, thanks for the "removal advice" - I have just ran the cwschredder,
> ad-aware, and spybot again - with NO hits..... go figgure ????
>
> thanks for the help and standing by for whatever is available....
>
> returning to lurk mode (maybe forever)
>
>
>

jb
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
So far So Good....

Appears that once deleted, they stay gone...... am looking VERY close
now.....

If there was a person, they (and I) were setting on the same seat......
(maybe not so bad after all)... :>))

Real answer - I am the only one with access to this unit.....

Still trying... and THANKS - john b



"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:uQR6$DJWFHA.2796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Sounds like someone - a person - has been playing with your news reader.
> Do the subscriptions come back once you've deleted them?
>
> Alias
>
> "jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>>I guess that humor is not funny at times - sorry!!
>>
>> to renerate:
>>
>> one day I started my Microsoft outlook express 6.0 from the office 2000
>> "news button". (as I have done for years or so)
>>
>> that day the Microsoft outlook express 6.0 appeared to be hung up in
>> starting. (in newsgroups only - not used for mail)
>>
>> I just ignored it for a while hoping for self recovery.. after 5 min or
>> so it was still hung, so I needed to restart the computer because there
>> was no way to break the program. (windoz task manager)
>>
>> when the computer restarted, I went to the News reader (which is not
>> configured for mail) to read the news, and there were 50 or more NEW
>> 'subscriptions" to various newsgroups, none of which were family
>> orientated.....
>>
>> I shut down the computer
>> removed from the internet
>> restarted in safe mode
>> ran ad-aware
>> spybot
>> Norton
>> windoz spy and scan programs.
>>
>> there were some hits and they were removed. I scan every other day or
>> so.. and Norton and windoz run every early am .. as in practicing safe
>> computing .....
>>
>> then I restarted, went and removed the unnecessary news item
>> subscriptions and are moving on.
>>
>> the general question is ---- is this a common thing? or is it must me??
>> or is it going around??
>>
>> I posted for advice and general information for the group, in case this
>> was a fad starting......
>>
>> sorry if I insulted or offended someone, advice was asked and advice will
>> be taken, again sorry if I was not politically correct in my original
>> post. (humor is nice in life, I try to find some every day)
>>
>> john b
>>
>> AND, thanks for the "removal advice" - I have just ran the cwschredder,
>> ad-aware, and spybot again - with NO hits..... go figgure ????
>>
>> thanks for the help and standing by for whatever is available....
>>
>> returning to lurk mode (maybe forever)
>>
>>
>>
>
>

jb
07-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Jim,

Agreeing on the parasite.... I mentioned before that after the "event", I
ran the anti-spy regime and some things were indicated for removal. I did
not note WHAT they were, just wished them good-by.

After that time, there APPEARS to be no parasites or bad thiggies..... (but
am waiting with removal things).....

Did the following that you recommended - no alarms.... (happy days ??)

Will continue to practice safe computing.... and THANKS for ALL who helped.

john b



"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:exXV$TLWFHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> First suspect would be some type of parasite, most likely picked up when
> browsing the web. See these links for some help:
>
> Go here for info:
> http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.php#malware
>
> And for a quick check:
> http://aumha.org/a/noads.php
>
> If neither site is helpful, then post back.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
>
>
>
> "jb" <jbousman@REMOVE@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:%Pnhe.1267$0A5.894@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>>I guess that humor is not funny at times - sorry!!
>>
>> to renerate:
>>
>> one day I started my Microsoft outlook express 6.0 from the office 2000
>> "news button". (as I have done for years or so)
>>
>> that day the Microsoft outlook express 6.0 appeared to be hung up in
>> starting. (in newsgroups only - not used for mail)
>>
>> I just ignored it for a while hoping for self recovery.. after 5 min or
>> so it was still hung, so I needed to restart the computer because there
>> was no way to break the program. (windoz task manager)
>>
>> when the computer restarted, I went to the News reader (which is not
>> configured for mail) to read the news, and there were 50 or more NEW
>> 'subscriptions" to various newsgroups, none of which were family
>> orientated.....
>>
>> I shut down the computer
>> removed from the internet
>> restarted in safe mode
>> ran ad-aware
>> spybot
>> Norton
>> windoz spy and scan programs.
>>
>> there were some hits and they were removed. I scan every other day or
>> so.. and Norton and windoz run every early am .. as in practicing safe
>> computing .....
>>
>> then I restarted, went and removed the unnecessary news item
>> subscriptions and are moving on.
>>
>> the general question is ---- is this a common thing? or is it must me??
>> or is it going around??
>>
>> I posted for advice and general information for the group, in case this
>> was a fad starting......
>>
>> sorry if I insulted or offended someone, advice was asked and advice will
>> be taken, again sorry if I was not politically correct in my original
>> post. (humor is nice in life, I try to find some every day)
>>
>> john b
>>
>> AND, thanks for the "removal advice" - I have just ran the cwschredder,
>> ad-aware, and spybot again - with NO hits..... go figgure ????
>>
>> thanks for the help and standing by for whatever is available....
>>
>> returning to lurk mode (maybe forever)
>>
>>
>>
>


A not-so-funny-thing