Net Etiquette



Nev.
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
Where do I find a good set of rules for posting on the internet?

I see people who say anyone who doesn't bottom post is an idiot.

But I get annoyed when I see a long thread that starts with a long
message and then almost nearly everybody who replies does not
edit the long message at all, but only bottom posts a very brief
comment at the end that does not need all the waffle of the
original post in order to be understood.

I always bottom post if I want to reply to more than one point
in a post because then I can place my answer immediately
below the relevant point I am replying to; however, I still edit
my reply to delete any part of the original message that is not
necessary to understand my reply.

Nev.

Alias
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
I top, bottom, and in between post, depending on the context and don't
really care if it's netically correct.

Alias

"Nev." <nenvy@optusnet.com.au> wrote

> Where do I find a good set of rules for posting on the internet?
>
> I see people who say anyone who doesn't bottom post is an idiot.
>
> But I get annoyed when I see a long thread that starts with a long
> message and then almost nearly everybody who replies does not
> edit the long message at all, but only bottom posts a very brief
> comment at the end that does not need all the waffle of the
> original post in order to be understood.
>
> I always bottom post if I want to reply to more than one point
> in a post because then I can place my answer immediately
> below the relevant point I am replying to; however, I still edit
> my reply to delete any part of the original message that is not
> necessary to understand my reply.
>
> Nev.
>
>

Ted Zieglar
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
The web is loaded with information on the subject, so that's the place to go
if you're really interested in learning about it. One important part of
netiquette is not to start a flame war.

In general, there are almost no 'rules' of netiquette but there are customs
and conventions that have evolved over time. Top- and bottom-posting are
both in widespread use, so if one or the other bothers you that much you'd
be happier by avoiding newsgroups.
--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"Nev." <nenvy@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:emqvc3lVFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Where do I find a good set of rules for posting on the internet?
>
> I see people who say anyone who doesn't bottom post is an idiot.
>
> But I get annoyed when I see a long thread that starts with a long
> message and then almost nearly everybody who replies does not
> edit the long message at all, but only bottom posts a very brief
> comment at the end that does not need all the waffle of the
> original post in order to be understood.
>
> I always bottom post if I want to reply to more than one point
> in a post because then I can place my answer immediately
> below the relevant point I am replying to; however, I still edit
> my reply to delete any part of the original message that is not
> necessary to understand my reply.
>
> Nev.
>
>

DGuess
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
"Nev." <nenvy@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:emqvc3lVFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Where do I find a good set of rules for posting on the internet?
>
> I see people who say anyone who doesn't bottom post is an idiot.
>
> But I get annoyed when I see a long thread that starts with a long
> message and then almost nearly everybody who replies does not
> edit the long message at all, but only bottom posts a very brief
> comment at the end that does not need all the waffle of the
> original post in order to be understood.
>
> I always bottom post if I want to reply to more than one point
> in a post because then I can place my answer immediately
> below the relevant point I am replying to; however, I still edit
> my reply to delete any part of the original message that is not
> necessary to understand my reply.
>
> Nev.
>
>


Have you ever had a college chemistry class? If you had, doesn't the note
taking seem similar to a bottom post type message? Well the reason is, this
was all done by a bunch of scientists and thats the way note taking is done.
We even got graded on how our notebooks were littered so to speak.

Well, after those scientists along came a group of techies and followed
suit. This group started branching out even further and one of the groups
were those that live and died by the rules of the code. The 83rd Command,
thou shalt not top post and use the 88th Command of Thou shalt call those
who top post idiots and other names and if so use the 93rd Command of Thou
shal flame one's butt for top posting. These are also the people that jump
out of the woodwork and flame for the flaming sake when they see someone
else break a commandant then slink back to their woodwork when finished not
adding to nor attempting to help the poor soul who happened upon the wrong
group and posted the wrong way (according to those who keep the honor of the
code of bottom posting and other such things they have termed "Rules to not
get flamed by".

I used to love coming into a group, make a post or reply and see how many
idiots I could get post back with some attempt at flaming and then try to
get them to stay out of the woodwork long enough to be counted by the census
people.

You really want to see something cool, change your time to a few hours or
days ahead or behind and see them come out of the woodwork. I still do this
one just to keep a good count of how many idiots are still out there
thinking they own the place and everyone must abide by their rules......

If you notice, you might get one good reply out of those that reply back
saying to bottom post. All the rest are just the frackn' morons trying to
get you in line.

God help us all when all of the ESAD off.

In the meantime, post as you see fit. There are no laws nor are there rules
or guidelines on Usenet or the Internet.

If you just want to get along, post how the others are posting and ignore
the other morons, maybe they will get trapped in the woodwork and can't find
their way out. Naaa, that won't happen, there will always be people like me
that set the bait to bring them out just to find out who they are posting as
now.

N. Miller
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
On Wed, 11 May 2005 15:11:30 -0500, DGuess wrote:

> These are also the people that jump
> out of the woodwork and flame for the flaming sake when they see someone
> else break a commandant...

And then there are those whole will flame for spelling. Which camp
commandant did you break, anyway? OK. Now I will go sit in my corner and
sulk... :P

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

N. Miller
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:15:53 +1000, Nev. wrote:

> Where do I find a good set of rules for posting on the internet?

They are all over the place, but I have never read them. After
participating in a few flame wars, I gave up. Some groups
(Netscape/Mozilla) insist on full-quote bottom posting; the very thing that
drives most people nuts in most other groups. Most groups seem to prefer
trimmed inline quoting. Within the trimmed inline quoting groups, some can
be quite anal, others (GRC comes to mind) quite flexible.

> I see people who say anyone who doesn't bottom post is an idiot.

It takes an idiot to recognize an idiot; I suppose.

> But I get annoyed when I see a long thread that starts with a long
> message and then almost nearly everybody who replies does not
> edit the long message at all...

Most people, even diehard bottom posters, dislike full quoters.

> I always bottom post if I want to reply to more than one point
> in a post because then I can place my answer immediately
> below the relevant point I am replying to; however, I still edit
> my reply to delete any part of the original message that is not
> necessary to understand my reply.

Then just carry on. You are using the most rational approach I can think
of. Well, possibly excepting the method of inline quoting to points raised
in the original article. In tech help groups, I even trim short posts;
mostly to try and dump extraneous commentary, and keep matters on the
subject at hand.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

DGuess
07-09-2005, 11:19 PM
"N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4tgpc85idal3.dlg@discussions.microsoft.com...
> On Wed, 11 May 2005 15:11:30 -0500, DGuess wrote:
>
>> These are also the people that jump
>> out of the woodwork and flame for the flaming sake when they see someone
>> else break a commandant...
>
> And then there are those whole will flame for spelling. Which camp
> commandant did you break, anyway? OK. Now I will go sit in my corner and
> sulk... :P
>


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