[m28manc]

:?:
Guys,
Looking for some help please...I used to be able to resize my IE
window then maximise it and any windows I opened by doing "open in
new window.." would pop up the same size as I’d previously minimized,
therefore not getting in the way of the page I was viewing.
I don’t seem to be able to do this anymore after installing SP2 on
XPHome..Any ideas??
Cheers

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[Alan Edwards]

Try stretching the small window to full size. (Do not use Maximize)
Ensure that window is the last one closed and IE should remember the
size next time.

....Alan
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In microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser, m28manc
<UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote:

>:?:
>Guys,
>Looking for some help please...I used to be able to resize my IE
>window then maximise it and any windows I opened by doing "open in
>new window.." would pop up the same size as I’d previously minimized,
>therefore not getting in the way of the page I was viewing.
>I don’t seem to be able to do this anymore after installing SP2 on
>XPHome..Any ideas??
>Cheers

[m28manc]

"Alan Edwards" wrote:
> Try stretching the small window to full size. (Do not use
> Maximize)
> Ensure that window is the last one closed and IE should
> remember the
> size next time.
>
> ....Alan
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>
> In microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser, m28manc
> <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote:
>
> >:?:
> >Guys,
> >Looking for some help please...I used to be able to resize my
> IE
> >window then maximise it and any windows I opened by doing
> "open in
> >new window.." would pop up the same size as I’d previously
> minimized,
> >therefore not getting in the way of the page I was viewing.
> >I don’t seem to be able to do this anymore after installing
> SP2 on
> >XPHome..Any ideas??
> >Cheers

Alan,
That doesn’t seem to work. All that happens in the restore up/down
size fills the screen. Any new windows I create also fill the screen.
I want any new windows to open up in restore up/down mode so they
pretty much just show the top and bottom of the browser but no window
details.

(To set it I used to go to bottom of status bar, get resize arrows as
cursor then just drag up the bottom of the browser until it met the
bottom of the address bar)
Then I want to be able to click maximise to view the window contents
as normal.
It there a registry setting that I could change to make all new
windows default to how I want them??

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[Robert Aldwinckle]

"m28manc" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
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> :?:
> Guys,
> Looking for some help please...I used to be able to resize my IE
> window then maximise it and any windows I opened by doing "open in
> new window.." would pop up the same size as I’d previously minimized,
> therefore not getting in the way of the page I was viewing.
> I don’t seem to be able to do this anymore after installing SP2 on
> XPHome..Any ideas??

There seems to be a new "feechur" in XP which tries to adapt to what
the average user might want. As Alan indicated, by giving you through
force of habit the answer to the related FAQ, it appears that the average
user has a preference for maximally sized normal mode windows.
Therefore, if you close your windows while maximized (or even while
sized too close to being maximized) the normal mode window
may become maximally sized.

My workaround is just to be aware of this possibility and avoid doing
the things which cause the changes to occur. E.g. I don't try to resize
my normal mode windows to be "too big" and never close my last window
while it is in a maximized state. It may not be necessary but I also no longer
close a Fullscreen window just in case it happened to have transitioned
from the maximized state. I can't remember the last time I had to resize
my normal mode window after learning how to adapt to the new behaviour.

BTW instead of changing the properties of your normal mode window
that way why not use F11 to make it Fullscreen? If you still want it
maximized after that (e.g. to see the Address bar) you could press
Alt-Space,X. (Sometimes Ctrl-N in Fullscreen mode also results
in a cloned window in the maximized state instead of a duplicated
Fullscreen window but I haven't figured out how to predict exactly
when either behaviour will occur.) However, if it is just to *use*
an Address bar note that you can always press Ctrl-o.
The only difference is that the Open dialog doesn't show you
the window's current URL.

If I thought that the UI was looking as if it considered me
an average user (i.e. if I appeared to be losing my preference
for mid-sized normal mode windows) I would either close all
IE windows but one and resize it with Alt-Space,S,...
or I would minimize all windows with Win-D and then
use the Taskbar's Cascade Windows command
on it and then resize it with Alt-Space,S,...
(I think that there is probably additional reinitialization done
by the Cascade Windows command and would prefer to
use it instead of Alt-Space,S,... but unfortunately
the Cascade Windows command has never "adapted to"
*my* preferred size and shape of normal mode window!)


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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[m28manc]

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> "m28manc" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
> news:3_1718273_6f9a0d9ed6ccd8dc1408ddd1357dc0b3@windowsforumz.com...
> > :?:
> > Guys,
> > Looking for some help please...I used to be able to resize
> my IE
> > window then maximise it and any windows I opened by doing
> "open in
> > new window.." would pop up the same size as I’d previously
> minimized,
> > therefore not getting in the way of the page I was viewing.
> > I don’t seem to be able to do this anymore after installing
> SP2 on
> > XPHome..Any ideas??
>
> There seems to be a new "feechur" in XP which tries to adapt
> to what
> the average user might want. As Alan indicated, by giving
> you through
> force of habit the answer to the related FAQ, it appears
> that the average
> user has a preference for maximally sized normal mode windows.
> Therefore, if you close your windows while maximized (or even
> while
> sized too close to being maximized) the normal mode window
> may become maximally sized.
>
> My workaround is just to be aware of this possibility and
> avoid doing
> the things which cause the changes to occur. E.g. I don't try
> to resize
> my normal mode windows to be "too big" and never close my last
> window
> while it is in a maximized state. It may not be necessary
> but I also no longer
> close a Fullscreen window just in case it happened to have
> transitioned
> from the maximized state. I can't remember the last time I
> had to resize
> my normal mode window after learning how to adapt to the new
> behaviour.
>
> BTW instead of changing the properties of your normal mode
> window
> that way why not use F11 to make it Fullscreen? If you still
> want it
> maximized after that (e.g. to see the Address bar) you could
> press
> Alt-Space,X. (Sometimes Ctrl-N in Fullscreen mode also
> results
> in a cloned window in the maximized state instead of a
> duplicated
> Fullscreen window but I haven't figured out how to predict
> exactly
> when either behaviour will occur.) However, if it is just to
> *use*
> an Address bar note that you can always press Ctrl-o.
> The only difference is that the Open dialog doesn't show you
> the window's current URL.
>
> If I thought that the UI was looking as if it considered me
> an average user (i.e. if I appeared to be losing my preference
> for mid-sized normal mode windows) I would either close all
> IE windows but one and resize it with Alt-Space,S,...
> or I would minimize all windows with Win-D and then
> use the Taskbar's Cascade Windows command
> on it and then resize it with Alt-Space,S,...
> (I think that there is probably additional reinitialization
> done
> by the Cascade Windows command and would prefer to
> use it instead of Alt-Space,S,... but unfortunately
> the Cascade Windows command has never "adapted to"
> *my* preferred size and shape of normal mode window!)
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
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>
>
> > Cheers
> >
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Robert,
Thanks for the input,however, that’s still not working :( I was
wondering if there is a registry setting somewhere that I could change
so that the default setting for minimised window is how I want it? Or
even the default setting for when a new window is created using
ctrl+n??
Any help would be great

[Robert Aldwinckle]

"m28manc" <DoNotEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message news:3_1730778_b74e3377fcb90b78c95035548591ec27@windowsforumz.com...
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> > "m28manc" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
> > news:3_1718273_6f9a0d9ed6ccd8dc1408ddd1357dc0b3@windowsforumz.com...
> > > :?:
> > > Guys,
> > > Looking for some help please...I used to be able to resize my IE
> > > window then maximise it and any windows I opened by doing "open in
> > > new window.." would pop up the same size as I’d previously minimized,


Let's get the terminology straight. Minimized means reduced to a taskbar icon,
regardless of current mode, Fullscreen, Maximized or normal. Minimized preserves
the unminimized mode. Closing a window in Fullscreen or Maximized mode *may*
preserve the window's normal mode attributes (e.g. size). I indicated to you that since
that assumption seems less reliable in XP I have adopted the habit of always closing
my last IE window in normal mode with my preferred size (e.g. especially not a resized
normal mode window which is nearly maximally sized.)


I have now noticed the clarification you gave Alan for what you are trying to do,
essentially change the size of your normal mode windows to be a tiny unusable size.
I recognized before that your problem was trying to preserve your normal mode
preferences but I was not aware of how extreme they were.

news:3_1723086_9bf741610c7eff29afe8827efcc600d3@windowsforumz.com
> [Date: 13 Jun 2005 14:37:14 -0400]
....
> (To set it I used to go to bottom of status bar, get resize arrows as
> cursor then just drag up the bottom of the browser until it met the
> bottom of the address bar)

Are you doing that and then closing it at that size before trying to open another one?
If not that would explain your symptom. That is (in part) what I was implying to you
with these comments:

....
> > If I thought that the UI was looking as if it considered me
> > an average user (i.e. if I appeared to be losing my preference
> > for mid-sized normal mode windows) I would either close all
> > IE windows but one and resize it with Alt-Space,S,...
> > or I would minimize all windows with Win-D and then
> > use the Taskbar's Cascade Windows command
> > on it and then resize it with Alt-Space,S,...
> > (I think that there is probably additional reinitialization
> > done
> > by the Cascade Windows command and would prefer to
> > use it instead of Alt-Space,S,... but unfortunately
> > the Cascade Windows command has never "adapted to"
> > *my* preferred size and shape of normal mode window!)


Recognizing now that a window that you are calling "minimised"
is in fact a normal mode window and your problem is the essentially
the same as mine when reverting to and preserving my preferred size,
did you try *both* of those ideas?


....
> Robert,
> Thanks for the input,however, that’s still not working :( I was
> wondering if there is a registry setting somewhere that I could change
> so that the default setting for minimised window is how I want it? Or
> even the default setting for when a new window is created using
> ctrl+n??
> Any help would be great


Please see my correction of your terminology above.
We are still discussing how to preserve the properties of your normal mode windows.
I won't be surprised if you find that in the same way that I discovered that there is
apparently a new bias in XP towards maximally sized windows when they are closed
nearly maximally sized or maximized that you may find that there is some bias
in reverting to an average size in other conditions (if that is what is happening.)

You are asking about resizing normal mode windows to an extreme that is probably
outside the bounds of what I am calling the average user (e.g. at the opposite end
of the range where I noticed closing my windows in maximized mode seemed to have
the possibility of changing the normal mode size to pseudo maximized). BTW is that
what is happening to you? E.g. you are closing too many windows in maximized mode
(especially last-closed windows) that your normal mode window is becoming maximally
sized? Have you tried making sure that you only close your windows after reverting
to your tiny unusable normal mode size? Even if you are, then the only thing that I can
suggest is to try making your tiny unusable mode windows slightly larger.
Perhaps there is a similar (though less understandable) bound at the other end
of the range which causes you to get (what?) standard normal mode window size?

Notice that you have not been clear about what size of window you are getting
instead of your tiny unusable size. If you are complaining about getting maximally
sized normal mode windows my guess is that you have been closing too many
maximized windows last thus giving the apparent new "feechur" that I was complaining
about the idea that you prefer maximally sized normal mode windows. If you're
complaining about not getting your tiny unusable size when you do Ctrl-N then I'd say
you are just seeing its quirks at the other end of the range, as inexplicable as me
occasionally getting Maximized windows out of Fullscreen windows.


Good luck

Robert
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