Problem viewing web pages - urlmon dll



Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is fine -
there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but the actual page I am
waiting to see, the text bit in the middle, remains blank and white, then
nothing else happens - also, some links don't work, at all, nothing. No
error messages.

The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or nothing
occurs after you click a link -
Article ID:281679

- invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not succeed, as in my
case - it could not be found - to run another 7 dll's, one of which in my
case also failed - Msjava.dll.

I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.

A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I believe,
when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32 somewhere.

Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I reinstall
or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could do that in System
something, from CABS.

Advice/solutions gratefully received

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?

You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?

Checking for/Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security


Xylophone wrote:
> I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is fine -
> there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but the actual page I
> am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle, remains blank and white,
> then nothing else happens - also, some links don't work, at all, nothing.
> No error messages.
>
> The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or nothing
> occurs after you click a link -
> Article ID:281679
>
> - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not succeed, as in
> my case - it could not be found - to run another 7 dll's, one of which in
> my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
>
> I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
>
> A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I believe,
> when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32 somewhere.
>
> Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I
> reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could do that
> in System something, from CABS.
>
> Advice/solutions gratefully received

Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Sorry, XP Home. A Windows Search showed it only in C:\1386

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23UevRZkWFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?
>
> You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?
>
> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
>
> Xylophone wrote:
> > I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is fine -
> > there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but the actual page
I
> > am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle, remains blank and white,
> > then nothing else happens - also, some links don't work, at all,
nothing.
> > No error messages.
> >
> > The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or nothing
> > occurs after you click a link -
> > Article ID:281679
> >
> > - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not succeed, as in
> > my case - it could not be found - to run another 7 dll's, one of which
in
> > my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
> >
> > I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
> >
> > A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I
believe,
> > when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32 somewhere.
> >
> > Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I
> > reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could do that
> > in System something, from CABS.
> >
> > Advice/solutions gratefully received

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Well, actually it showed C:\i386 and it found urlmon.dl_, not urlmon.dll

Use msconfig to expand urlmon.dll from urlmon.dl_ in that directory to
C:\Windows\System32.
Then run regsvr32 urlmon.dll

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
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http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/


"Xylophone" <m-rharrison@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23Fdf$zkWFHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, XP Home. A Windows Search showed it only in C:\1386
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23UevRZkWFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?
>>
>> You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?
>>
>> Checking for/Help with Hijackware
>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
>> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
>> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>>
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>>
>>
>> Xylophone wrote:
>> > I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is fine -
>> > there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but the actual page
> I
>> > am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle, remains blank and white,
>> > then nothing else happens - also, some links don't work, at all,
> nothing.
>> > No error messages.
>> >
>> > The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
>> > nothing
>> > occurs after you click a link -
>> > Article ID:281679
>> >
>> > - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not succeed, as
>> > in
>> > my case - it could not be found - to run another 7 dll's, one of which
> in
>> > my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
>> >
>> > I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
>> >
>> > A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I
> believe,
>> > when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32 somewhere.
>> >
>> > Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I
>> > reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could do
>> > that
>> > in System something, from CABS.
>> >
>> > Advice/solutions gratefully received
>
>

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Are you posting from the problem machine?

Did you enable the Advanced Search options to include hidden files and
folders as well as system folders?

Did you navigate to %windir%\System32 (e.g., C:\Windows\System32) and look
for it?

You may have made a typo:

Start > Run > copy/paste the following line into the box

regsvr32 urlmon.dll

and click OK.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Xylophone wrote:
> Sorry, XP Home. A Windows Search showed it only in C:\1386
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23UevRZkWFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?
> >
> > You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?
> >
> > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
> > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >
> > --
> > Xylophone wrote:
> > > I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is fine
> > > - there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but the actual
> > > page I am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle, remains blank
> > > and white, then nothing else happens - also, some links don't work,
> > > at all, nothing. No error messages.
> > >
> > > The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
> > > nothing occurs after you click a link -
> > > Article ID:281679
> > >
> > > - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not succeed, as
> > > in my case - it could not be found - to run another 7 dll's, one of
> > > which in my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
> > >
> > > I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
> > >
> > > A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I
> > > believe, when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32
> > > somewhere.
> > >
> > > Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I
> > > reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could do
> > > that in System something, from CABS.
> > >
> > > Advice/solutions gratefully received

Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Thanks, guys.

Ran it and it succeeded

But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eV0h39kWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Are you posting from the problem machine?
>
> Did you enable the Advanced Search options to include hidden files and
> folders as well as system folders?
>
> Did you navigate to %windir%\System32 (e.g., C:\Windows\System32) and look
> for it?
>
> You may have made a typo:
>
> Start > Run > copy/paste the following line into the box
>
> regsvr32 urlmon.dll
>
> and click OK.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Xylophone wrote:
> > Sorry, XP Home. A Windows Search showed it only in C:\1386
> >
> > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23UevRZkWFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?
> > >
> > > You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?
> > >
> > > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
> > > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > --
> > > Xylophone wrote:
> > > > I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is
fine
> > > > - there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but the actual
> > > > page I am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle, remains blank
> > > > and white, then nothing else happens - also, some links don't work,
> > > > at all, nothing. No error messages.
> > > >
> > > > The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
> > > > nothing occurs after you click a link -
> > > > Article ID:281679
> > > >
> > > > - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not succeed,
as
> > > > in my case - it could not be found - to run another 7 dll's, one of
> > > > which in my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
> > > >
> > > > I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
> > > >
> > > > A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I
> > > > believe, when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32
> > > > somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I
> > > > reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could do
> > > > that in System something, from CABS.
> > > >
> > > > Advice/solutions gratefully received
>

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
--
~PA Bear

Xylophone wrote:
> Thanks, guys.
>
> Ran it and it succeeded
>
> But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eV0h39kWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Are you posting from the problem machine?
> >
> > Did you enable the Advanced Search options to include hidden files and
> > folders as well as system folders?
> >
> > Did you navigate to %windir%\System32 (e.g., C:\Windows\System32) and
> > look for it?
> >
> > You may have made a typo:
> >
> > Start > Run > copy/paste the following line into the box
> >
> > regsvr32 urlmon.dll
> >
> > and click OK.
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> >
> > Xylophone wrote:
> > > Sorry, XP Home. A Windows Search showed it only in C:\1386
> > >
> > > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23UevRZkWFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?
> > > >
> > > > You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?
> > > >
> > > > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > > > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > > > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
> > > > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Xylophone wrote:
> > > > > I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is
> > > > > fine - there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but
> > > > > the actual page I am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle,
> > > > > remains blank and white, then nothing else happens - also, some
> > > > > links don't work, at all, nothing. No error messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
> > > > > nothing occurs after you click a link -
> > > > > Article ID:281679
> > > > >
> > > > > - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not
> > > > > succeed, as in my case - it could not be found - to run another 7
> > > > > dll's, one of which in my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
> > > > >
> > > > > A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I
> > > > > believe, when it should also, I think, appear in Windows/System32
> > > > > somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can I
> > > > > reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could
> > > > > do that in System something, from CABS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Advice/solutions gratefully received

Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named j2re1.4.2 and
....4.2_05

Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level, never
has

It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for applet'

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23tfEY0lWFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Xylophone wrote:
> > Thanks, guys.
> >
> > Ran it and it succeeded
> >
> > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.
> >
> > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eV0h39kWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Are you posting from the problem machine?
> > >
> > > Did you enable the Advanced Search options to include hidden files and
> > > folders as well as system folders?
> > >
> > > Did you navigate to %windir%\System32 (e.g., C:\Windows\System32) and
> > > look for it?
> > >
> > > You may have made a typo:
> > >
> > > Start > Run > copy/paste the following line into the box
> > >
> > > regsvr32 urlmon.dll
> > >
> > > and click OK.
> > > --
> > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
> > >
> > > Xylophone wrote:
> > > > Sorry, XP Home. A Windows Search showed it only in C:\1386
> > > >
> > > > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23UevRZkWFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Windows version? Are you posting from the problem machine?
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't find URLMON.DLL in %windir%\System32?
> > > > >
> > > > > Checking for/Help with Hijackware
> > > > > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > > > > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > > > > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > > > > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/tshoot.htm
> > > > > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > > > > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Xylophone wrote:
> > > > > > I am having problems viewing some web pages, not all - my ISP is
> > > > > > fine - there is no discernible pattern - some open so far, but
> > > > > > the actual page I am waiting to see, the text bit in the middle,
> > > > > > remains blank and white, then nothing else happens - also, some
> > > > > > links don't work, at all, nothing. No error messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The MS Article You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
> > > > > > nothing occurs after you click a link -
> > > > > > Article ID:281679
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - invites you to run regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and if does not
> > > > > > succeed, as in my case - it could not be found - to run another
7
> > > > > > dll's, one of which in my case also failed - Msjava.dll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I understand the Urlmon.dll can be problematic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A search of my PC shows its only location to C:\1386, or CABS, I
> > > > > > believe, when it should also, I think, appear in
Windows/System32
> > > > > > somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Might these dll's be affecting viewing web pages, and if so, can
I
> > > > > > reinstall or restore them, and if so, how? Under Win98, I could
> > > > > > do that in System something, from CABS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Advice/solutions gratefully received
>

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Did you read the web-page I posted?

> Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
> never has

That's why you couldn't register MSJAVA.DLL.
--
~PA Bear

Xylophone wrote:
> I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named j2re1.4.2 and
> ...4.2_05
>
> Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
> never has
>
> It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for applet'
>
> > Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
> > --
> > > Ran it and it succeeded
> > >
> > > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.

Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Thanks. Java appears 3 times in the folder and none marked as damaged.

To repeat, does all this finally mean, or not, that urlmon.dll or any others
mentioned so far have any relevance to my problem, as set out in my
originating post

If not, are you guys (I know who you are) able to comment on or give me any
pointers or possible solutions?

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23lGa1ImWFHA.2648@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Did you read the web-page I posted?
>
> > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
> > never has
>
> That's why you couldn't register MSJAVA.DLL.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Xylophone wrote:
> > I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named j2re1.4.2
and
> > ...4.2_05
> >
> > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
> > never has
> >
> > It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for applet'
> >
> > > Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
> > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
> > > --
> > > > Ran it and it succeeded
> > > >
> > > > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
Sun Java and MS Java Virtual Machine (msjava.dll) are not the same thing.
See the discussion in the link I posted.

If re-registering all the pertinent DLLs in
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679 doesn't resolve your problem,
proceed to run a thorough check for hijackware.
--
~PA Bear

Xylophone wrote:
> Thanks. Java appears 3 times in the folder and none marked as damaged.
>
> To repeat, does all this finally mean, or not, that urlmon.dll or any
> others mentioned so far have any relevance to my problem, as set out in my
> originating post
>
> If not, are you guys (I know who you are) able to comment on or give me
> any pointers or possible solutions?
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23lGa1ImWFHA.2648@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Did you read the web-page I posted?
> >
> > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
> > > never has
> >
> > That's why you couldn't register MSJAVA.DLL.
> > --
> > ~PA Bear
> >
> > Xylophone wrote:
> > > I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named j2re1.4.2
> > > and ...4.2_05
> > >
> > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
> > > never has
> > >
> > > It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for applet'
> > >
> > > > Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
> > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
> > > > --
> > > > > Ran it and it succeeded
> > > > >
> > > > > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.

Robert Aldwinckle
07-09-2005, 11:05 PM
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O3M7JkmWFHA.1508@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Sun Java and MS Java Virtual Machine (msjava.dll) are not the same thing.
> See the discussion in the link I posted.
>
> If re-registering all the pertinent DLLs in
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679 doesn't resolve your problem,
> proceed to run a thorough check for hijackware.


I still say the repair value of the regsvr32 commands in KB831429
is superior to the ones given in KB281679. Given the appropriate
caveats for shell32.dll and msjava.dll the article could be suggested
for all OS. ;)

For more possible non-malware factors I suggest looking at Encoding,
Fonts and Language settings.



---


> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Xylophone wrote:
>> Thanks. Java appears 3 times in the folder and none marked as damaged.
>>
>> To repeat, does all this finally mean, or not, that urlmon.dll or any
>> others mentioned so far have any relevance to my problem, as set out in my
>> originating post
>>
>> If not, are you guys (I know who you are) able to comment on or give me
>> any pointers or possible solutions?
>>
>> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23lGa1ImWFHA.2648@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > Did you read the web-page I posted?
>> >
>> > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
>> > > never has
>> >
>> > That's why you couldn't register MSJAVA.DLL.
>> > --
>> > ~PA Bear
>> >
>> > Xylophone wrote:
>> > > I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named j2re1.4.2
>> > > and ...4.2_05
>> > >
>> > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom Level,
>> > > never has
>> > >
>> > > It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for applet'
>> > >
>> > > > Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
>> > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
>> > > > --
>> > > > > Ran it and it succeeded
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.
>

Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:05 PM
Bear

Are you sure about that article number? - it is headed 'Windows XP stops
responding when you download updates from Windows Update'


"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
news:O7MGrQ3WFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O3M7JkmWFHA.1508@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Sun Java and MS Java Virtual Machine (msjava.dll) are not the same
thing.
> > See the discussion in the link I posted.
> >
> > If re-registering all the pertinent DLLs in
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679 doesn't resolve your problem,
> > proceed to run a thorough check for hijackware.
>
>
> I still say the repair value of the regsvr32 commands in KB831429
> is superior to the ones given in KB281679. Given the appropriate
> caveats for shell32.dll and msjava.dll the article could be suggested
> for all OS. ;)
>
> For more possible non-malware factors I suggest looking at Encoding,
> Fonts and Language settings.
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
> > --
> > ~PA Bear
> >
> > Xylophone wrote:
> >> Thanks. Java appears 3 times in the folder and none marked as damaged.
> >>
> >> To repeat, does all this finally mean, or not, that urlmon.dll or any
> >> others mentioned so far have any relevance to my problem, as set out in
my
> >> originating post
> >>
> >> If not, are you guys (I know who you are) able to comment on or give me
> >> any pointers or possible solutions?
> >>
> >> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23lGa1ImWFHA.2648@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > Did you read the web-page I posted?
> >> >
> >> > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom
Level,
> >> > > never has
> >> >
> >> > That's why you couldn't register MSJAVA.DLL.
> >> > --
> >> > ~PA Bear
> >> >
> >> > Xylophone wrote:
> >> > > I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named
j2re1.4.2
> >> > > and ...4.2_05
> >> > >
> >> > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom
Level,
> >> > > never has
> >> > >
> >> > > It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for
applet'
> >> > >
> >> > > > Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
> >> > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > > Ran it and it succeeded
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.
> >
>
>

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:05 PM
Seems to me I had that happen to me once, too, recently, Xylophone. For me,
the link does indeed open currently to

You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or nothing occurs after you
click a link:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679

and not

Windows XP stops responding when you download updates from Windows Update:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=831429
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security


Xylophone wrote:
> Bear
>
> Are you sure about that article number? - it is headed 'Windows XP stops
> responding when you download updates from Windows Update'
>
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> news:O7MGrQ3WFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:O3M7JkmWFHA.1508@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Sun Java and MS Java Virtual Machine (msjava.dll) are not the same
> > > thing. See the discussion in the link I posted.
> > >
> > > If re-registering all the pertinent DLLs in
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679 doesn't resolve your
> > > problem, proceed to run a thorough check for hijackware.
> >
> >
> > I still say the repair value of the regsvr32 commands in KB831429
> > is superior to the ones given in KB281679. Given the appropriate
> > caveats for shell32.dll and msjava.dll the article could be
> > suggested for all OS. ;)
> > >
> > > Xylophone wrote:
> > > > Thanks. Java appears 3 times in the folder and none marked as
> > > > damaged.
> > > >
> > > > To repeat, does all this finally mean, or not, that urlmon.dll or
> > > > any others mentioned so far have any relevance to my problem, as
> > > > set out in my originating post
> > > >
> > > > If not, are you guys (I know who you are) able to comment on or
> > > > give me any pointers or possible solutions?
> > > >
> > > > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23lGa1ImWFHA.2648@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Did you read the web-page I posted?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom
> > > > > > Level, never has
> > > > >
> > > > > That's why you couldn't register MSJAVA.DLL.
> > > > > --
> > > > > ~PA Bear
> > > > >
> > > > > Xylophone wrote:
> > > > > > I have a Java folder in Programs, with 2 sub-folders, named
> > > > > > j2re1.4.2 and ...4.2_05
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Java VM does not appear in IE/Options/ Security/Internet/Custom
> > > > > > Level, never has
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It does appear in /Advanced as 'Java (Sun)' 'Use 4.2._05 for
> > > > > > applet'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you have MS JavaVM installed?
> > > > > > > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/answers_9.htm
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Ran it and it succeeded
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But substituting msjava.dll, it still not succeed.

Robert Aldwinckle
07-09-2005, 11:05 PM
"Xylophone" <m-rharrison@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:uOQEzD4WFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Bear
>
> Are you sure about that article number? - it is headed 'Windows XP stops
> responding when you download updates from Windows Update'

Xylophone,

Has my aside to PA Bear confused you somehow? ;)

*I* was referring to the following regsvr32 commands given in this
MSKB article. I will include the title and link to it this time in case that
helps clarify the point. I have also inserted extra spaces between
the each command and its arguments for clarity.

<title>KB831429 - Windows XP stops responding when you download updates from Windows Update</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=831429

<extracts>
regsvr32 /i Urlmon.dll
regsvr32 /i Shdocvw.dll
regsvr32 Msjava.dll
regsvr32 Actxprxy.dll
regsvr32 Oleaut32.dll
regsvr32 /i Mshtml.dll
regsvr32 /i Browseui.dll
regsvr32 /i Shell32.dll
</extracts>

Compare with the list of commands implied by the other more commonly
posted article. Title and link also provided for your convenience.

<title>KB281679 - You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or nothing occurs after you click a link</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679

<extract>
2. Click Start, and then click Run.
3. Type regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and then click OK.
4. When you receive the "DllRegisterServer in urlmon.dll succeeded" message, click OK.
If this does not resolve the problem, repeat steps 2 through 4 for each of the following files
(in step 3, replace Urlmon.dll with each of the file names below):
Shdocvw.dll
Msjava.dll
Actxprxy.dll
Oleaut32.dll
Mshtml.dll
Browseui.dll
Shell32.dll
</extract>


Notice that the same set of modules is being registered in each case
but with the syntax given by KB831429 some additional processing
is being specified (e.g. using the /i switch where applicable).

In fact, that same additional processing was also provided by
the old IE Repair facility and (intended to be provided by) a new
(but fast slipping into obscurity <eg>) XPsp2 feature called /rereg
Except for the addition of msjava.dll and shell32.dll both lists
could be regarded as small but important subsets of the other
more complete repair tools. And because of the /i switches
the repair subset provided by KB831429 is _greater than_
the repair subset provided by KB281679.


FYI

Robert
---

Xylophone
07-09-2005, 11:05 PM
Thanks, guys. Been through these procedures. No difference. That points
to a repair of IE/reinstall of XP, or an upgrade to SP2 which I have been
avoiding.

That said, here is a conundrum. I use Outpost Pro 2.6, default settings, as
just installed and waiting to see. This has 3 modes, Allow most, Wizard and
Block most. Ordinarily I use Wizard. When I use that or Block Most, web
pages not open, links not work, some of the time. If, however, I switch to
Allow most, the problem disappears. A bit flaky, but pages that refused
point blank to open, open, and links work. Agnitum forums cannot explain,
yet. Should not use Allow most - have rules, but some time down the line
before I could use Allow most with confidence.

Comments?


"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
news:u8GFFQDXFHA.2288@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Xylophone" <m-rharrison@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uOQEzD4WFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Bear
> >
> > Are you sure about that article number? - it is headed 'Windows XP
stops
> > responding when you download updates from Windows Update'
>
> Xylophone,
>
> Has my aside to PA Bear confused you somehow? ;)
>
> *I* was referring to the following regsvr32 commands given in this
> MSKB article. I will include the title and link to it this time in case
that
> helps clarify the point. I have also inserted extra spaces between
> the each command and its arguments for clarity.
>
> <title>KB831429 - Windows XP stops responding when you download updates
from Windows Update</title>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=831429
>
> <extracts>
> regsvr32 /i Urlmon.dll
> regsvr32 /i Shdocvw.dll
> regsvr32 Msjava.dll
> regsvr32 Actxprxy.dll
> regsvr32 Oleaut32.dll
> regsvr32 /i Mshtml.dll
> regsvr32 /i Browseui.dll
> regsvr32 /i Shell32.dll
> </extracts>
>
> Compare with the list of commands implied by the other more commonly
> posted article. Title and link also provided for your convenience.
>
> <title>KB281679 - You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
nothing occurs after you click a link</title>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679
>
> <extract>
> 2. Click Start, and then click Run.
> 3. Type regsvr32 urlmon.dll, and then click OK.
> 4. When you receive the "DllRegisterServer in urlmon.dll succeeded"
message, click OK.
> If this does not resolve the problem, repeat steps 2 through 4 for each of
the following files
> (in step 3, replace Urlmon.dll with each of the file names below):
> Shdocvw.dll
> Msjava.dll
> Actxprxy.dll
> Oleaut32.dll
> Mshtml.dll
> Browseui.dll
> Shell32.dll
> </extract>
>
>
> Notice that the same set of modules is being registered in each case
> but with the syntax given by KB831429 some additional processing
> is being specified (e.g. using the /i switch where applicable).
>
> In fact, that same additional processing was also provided by
> the old IE Repair facility and (intended to be provided by) a new
> (but fast slipping into obscurity <eg>) XPsp2 feature called /rereg
> Except for the addition of msjava.dll and shell32.dll both lists
> could be regarded as small but important subsets of the other
> more complete repair tools. And because of the /i switches
> the repair subset provided by KB831429 is _greater than_
> the repair subset provided by KB281679.
>
>
> FYI
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>

Robert Aldwinckle
07-09-2005, 11:05 PM
"Xylophone" <m-rharrison@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:eriiP9DXFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl
....
> Ordinarily I use Wizard. When I use that or Block Most, web
> pages not open, links not work, some of the time.


Xylophone,

I have only been trying to explain my comment about the Repair suggestion.

FWIW it looks to me now that your situation is analogous to
having a door that closes and expressing surprise that you can't
walk through it in that state? ;)


Robert
---


> Thanks, guys. Been through these procedures. No difference. That points
> to a repair of IE/reinstall of XP, or an upgrade to SP2 which I have been
> avoiding.
>
> That said, here is a conundrum. I use Outpost Pro 2.6, default settings, as
> just installed and waiting to see. This has 3 modes, Allow most, Wizard and
> Block most. Ordinarily I use Wizard. When I use that or Block Most, web
> pages not open, links not work, some of the time. If, however, I switch to
> Allow most, the problem disappears. A bit flaky, but pages that refused
> point blank to open, open, and links work. Agnitum forums cannot explain,
> yet. Should not use Allow most - have rules, but some time down the line
> before I could use Allow most with confidence.
>
> Comments?

....

PA Bear
07-09-2005, 11:06 PM
<ROFL>

Sounds like something Moe'd be saying to Curly.
--
~PAř

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
> FWIW it looks to me now that your situation is analogous to
> having a door that closes and expressing surprise that you can't
> walk through it in that state? ;)


Problem viewing web pages - urlmon dll