XP mup.sys file and subsequent problems



Bryant
07-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Hi,
Four days ago I ran into this dreaded error where my PC locked up. The PC
spec is a Athlon 2400+ with an Asus A7V8X motherboard, 512Mb 333MHz RAM with
a samsung 80Gig 100ATA HDD. After booting through every conceivable mode I
found out that the file it froze on was the same one mentioned above. I
attempted to repair windows with the automated recovery disk but to no
avail. I checked all connections, the memory stick, removed all USB
attachments, and also tried booting without the graphics and the sound card
without success

In the end I bought myself a new HDD (Western Digital 120Mb) so that could
bypass the problem and load a new copy of windows onto it. Unfortunately
after some initial teething issues with the jumper setting on the HDD I
found that my perfectly valid copy of XP will not load! All that happens is
that it loads the initial startup files, inspects the contents of the new
HDD, reformats it and then resets. And then the cycle of loading repeats
again, if it does not lock up!

I've tried every trick I know, the BIOS recognises the new drive (and the
older one) but now I'm out of ideas. Can anyone suggest another course of
action or approach?

Thanks in advance,
Bryant

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Hi Bryant,

Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive or the WD
tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and use it to
create the destination partition.

I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free programs here:

http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Bryant" <bryant.ashcroft@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:f_qne.4683$iy2.1913@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Hi,
> Four days ago I ran into this dreaded error where my PC locked up. The PC
> spec is a Athlon 2400+ with an Asus A7V8X motherboard, 512Mb 333MHz RAM
> with
> a samsung 80Gig 100ATA HDD. After booting through every conceivable mode I
> found out that the file it froze on was the same one mentioned above. I
> attempted to repair windows with the automated recovery disk but to no
> avail. I checked all connections, the memory stick, removed all USB
> attachments, and also tried booting without the graphics and the sound
> card
> without success
>
> In the end I bought myself a new HDD (Western Digital 120Mb) so that could
> bypass the problem and load a new copy of windows onto it. Unfortunately
> after some initial teething issues with the jumper setting on the HDD I
> found that my perfectly valid copy of XP will not load! All that happens
> is
> that it loads the initial startup files, inspects the contents of the new
> HDD, reformats it and then resets. And then the cycle of loading repeats
> again, if it does not lock up!
>
> I've tried every trick I know, the BIOS recognises the new drive (and the
> older one) but now I'm out of ideas. Can anyone suggest another course of
> action or approach?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bryant
>
>

Bryant Ashcroft
07-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Hi Rick
One further question, if the RAM turns out not to be the issue are there any
other alternatives to consider? I was thinking of trying to load Win 98
next....

Best Regards,
Bryant

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u$q0l9vZFHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bryant,
>
> Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive or the
WD
> tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and use it
to
> create the destination partition.
>
> I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free programs
here:
>
> http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
>

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Let's see what happens after the suggestions I gave. If the hardware is
faulty, Win98 may load, but that doesn't solve the problem.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Bryant Ashcroft" <Bryant.Ashcroft1@uk.bosch.com> wrote in message
news:d7msi4$jjc$1@ns2.fe.internet.bosch.com...
> Hi Rick
> One further question, if the RAM turns out not to be the issue are there
> any
> other alternatives to consider? I was thinking of trying to load Win 98
> next....
>
> Best Regards,
> Bryant
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:u$q0l9vZFHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Bryant,
>>
>> Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive or the
> WD
>> tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and use it
> to
>> create the destination partition.
>>
>> I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free programs
> here:
>>
>> http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
>>
>
>

Bryant
07-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Hi Rick.
Ok, I've run the memory tests and there's is no issue with memory. On my
old HDD drive I have noticed that the NTFS format has been changed to FAT16!
Win98 does not recognise that there is a CD in the drive and when I checked
the CD via DOS the were only two files on board......

I'm beginning to wonder whether the real culprit is the motherboard which
has had rather chequered reviews concerning reliability. I have have had a
time about a year ago where the board has inexplicably hanged during boot
up.

Any thoughts or further ideas to try? Thanks for your advice so far :-)
Bryant

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ehlMQ19ZFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Let's see what happens after the suggestions I gave. If the hardware is
> faulty, Win98 may load, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Bryant Ashcroft" <Bryant.Ashcroft1@uk.bosch.com> wrote in message
> news:d7msi4$jjc$1@ns2.fe.internet.bosch.com...
> > Hi Rick
> > One further question, if the RAM turns out not to be the issue are there
> > any
> > other alternatives to consider? I was thinking of trying to load Win 98
> > next....
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Bryant
> >
> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:u$q0l9vZFHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi Bryant,
> >>
> >> Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive or
the
> > WD
> >> tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and use
it
> > to
> >> create the destination partition.
> >>
> >> I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free programs
> > here:
> >>
> >> http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
> >> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 09:13 PM
Hi Bryant,

What sort of motherboard? That certainly makes sense if there are known
issues with it. XP is particularly sensitive to faulty hardware.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Bryant" <bryant.ashcroft@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:iJCoe.8167$%21.854@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Hi Rick.
> Ok, I've run the memory tests and there's is no issue with memory. On my
> old HDD drive I have noticed that the NTFS format has been changed to
> FAT16!
> Win98 does not recognise that there is a CD in the drive and when I
> checked
> the CD via DOS the were only two files on board......
>
> I'm beginning to wonder whether the real culprit is the motherboard which
> has had rather chequered reviews concerning reliability. I have have had
> a
> time about a year ago where the board has inexplicably hanged during boot
> up.
>
> Any thoughts or further ideas to try? Thanks for your advice so far :-)
> Bryant
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:ehlMQ19ZFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Let's see what happens after the suggestions I gave. If the hardware is
>> faulty, Win98 may load, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Bryant Ashcroft" <Bryant.Ashcroft1@uk.bosch.com> wrote in message
>> news:d7msi4$jjc$1@ns2.fe.internet.bosch.com...
>> > Hi Rick
>> > One further question, if the RAM turns out not to be the issue are
>> > there
>> > any
>> > other alternatives to consider? I was thinking of trying to load Win 98
>> > next....
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Bryant
>> >
>> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> > news:u$q0l9vZFHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi Bryant,
>> >>
>> >> Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive or
> the
>> > WD
>> >> tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and use
> it
>> > to
>> >> create the destination partition.
>> >>
>> >> I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free programs
>> > here:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
>> >> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Bryant
07-09-2005, 09:14 PM
Athlon 2400+ with an Asus A7V8X motherboard for my sins!

Bryant




"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uZqdpweaFHA.2756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bryant,
>
> What sort of motherboard? That certainly makes sense if there are known
> issues with it. XP is particularly sensitive to faulty hardware.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Bryant" <bryant.ashcroft@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
> news:iJCoe.8167$%21.854@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > Hi Rick.
> > Ok, I've run the memory tests and there's is no issue with memory. On
my
> > old HDD drive I have noticed that the NTFS format has been changed to
> > FAT16!
> > Win98 does not recognise that there is a CD in the drive and when I
> > checked
> > the CD via DOS the were only two files on board......
> >
> > I'm beginning to wonder whether the real culprit is the motherboard
which
> > has had rather chequered reviews concerning reliability. I have have
had
> > a
> > time about a year ago where the board has inexplicably hanged during
boot
> > up.
> >
> > Any thoughts or further ideas to try? Thanks for your advice so far :-)
> > Bryant
> >
> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:ehlMQ19ZFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Let's see what happens after the suggestions I gave. If the hardware is
> >> faulty, Win98 may load, but that doesn't solve the problem.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >>
> >> "Bryant Ashcroft" <Bryant.Ashcroft1@uk.bosch.com> wrote in message
> >> news:d7msi4$jjc$1@ns2.fe.internet.bosch.com...
> >> > Hi Rick
> >> > One further question, if the RAM turns out not to be the issue are
> >> > there
> >> > any
> >> > other alternatives to consider? I was thinking of trying to load Win
98
> >> > next....
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> > Bryant
> >> >
> >> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:u$q0l9vZFHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi Bryant,
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive
or
> > the
> >> > WD
> >> >> tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and
use
> > it
> >> > to
> >> >> create the destination partition.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free
programs
> >> > here:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
> >> >> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 09:14 PM
Hmm, built a new system for my daughters a few months ago with that exact
board and processor, and I've had no issues whatsoever. Still, it's possible
that you have a bad unit. You might contact Asus about an RMA for exchange.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Bryant" <bryant.ashcroft@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:AuXoe.8867$%21.5480@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Athlon 2400+ with an Asus A7V8X motherboard for my sins!
>
> Bryant
>
>
>
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uZqdpweaFHA.2756@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Bryant,
>>
>> What sort of motherboard? That certainly makes sense if there are known
>> issues with it. XP is particularly sensitive to faulty hardware.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Bryant" <bryant.ashcroft@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
>> news:iJCoe.8167$%21.854@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> > Hi Rick.
>> > Ok, I've run the memory tests and there's is no issue with memory. On
> my
>> > old HDD drive I have noticed that the NTFS format has been changed to
>> > FAT16!
>> > Win98 does not recognise that there is a CD in the drive and when I
>> > checked
>> > the CD via DOS the were only two files on board......
>> >
>> > I'm beginning to wonder whether the real culprit is the motherboard
> which
>> > has had rather chequered reviews concerning reliability. I have have
> had
>> > a
>> > time about a year ago where the board has inexplicably hanged during
> boot
>> > up.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts or further ideas to try? Thanks for your advice so far
>> > :-)
>> > Bryant
>> >
>> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> > news:ehlMQ19ZFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> Let's see what happens after the suggestions I gave. If the hardware
>> >> is
>> >> faulty, Win98 may load, but that doesn't solve the problem.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >>
>> >> "Bryant Ashcroft" <Bryant.Ashcroft1@uk.bosch.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:d7msi4$jjc$1@ns2.fe.internet.bosch.com...
>> >> > Hi Rick
>> >> > One further question, if the RAM turns out not to be the issue are
>> >> > there
>> >> > any
>> >> > other alternatives to consider? I was thinking of trying to load Win
> 98
>> >> > next....
>> >> >
>> >> > Best Regards,
>> >> > Bryant
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> > news:u$q0l9vZFHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Hi Bryant,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Did you use WinXP's setup to create the partition on the new drive
> or
>> > the
>> >> > WD
>> >> >> tools? If the latter, try deleting the partition from XP setup and
> use
>> > it
>> >> > to
>> >> >> create the destination partition.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would also check the ram, it may be suspect. There are free
> programs
>> >> > here:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.simmtester.com/page/products/doc/download.asp
>> >> >> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


XP mup.sys file and subsequent problems