want to override 64M memory requirement for installation



Gary Roach
07-10-2005, 02:15 AM
i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the 64M
memory requirement? thanks for any help

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Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 02:15 AM
No. You would have to install Windows 2000 or Windows 98 if
your PC does not meet the minimum hardware requirements to
install Windows XP.

System requirements for Windows XP operating systems
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314865

How Do I Use Upgrade Advisor?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/advisor.mspx

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"Gary Roach" wrote:

| i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
| questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
| memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the 64M
| memory requirement? thanks for any help
|
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| Gary Roach
| ADB Services



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Ron Martell
07-10-2005, 02:15 AM
"Gary Roach" <jgroach@NOSPAMcogeco.ca> wrote:

>i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
>questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
>memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the 64M
>memory requirement? thanks for any help

For XP compatibility information your best bet would be to check with
the laptop manufacturer's web site and see if they have any Windows XP
driver updates available for your specific laptop model number.

If they do not have updated drivers for Windows XP then it is a
virtual certainty that the laptop will not function properly with
Windows XP because the proprietary hardware components used in laptops
require model-specific drivers from the manufacturer.

Also if the laptop is not capable of being upgraded to at least 256 mb
of RAM then it is probably a waste of time even trying to put Windows
XP onto it because the performance will be abysmal.

Good luck


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Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
07-10-2005, 02:15 AM
Hello Gary,
I wouldn't even attempt to install on a machine with 32meg of RAM. The
experience would not be very good, matter of fact it would be pretty
painful.
You really wouldn't know whether the issue was the amount of memory in the
system or an issue with the system itself.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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>i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
>questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
>memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the
64M
>memory requirement? thanks for any help
>
>--
>Gary Roach
>ADB Services
>
>
>

Kenny S
07-10-2005, 02:15 AM
You have 2 options

1) temporarilly install another 32 mb ram (borrow it from another laptop?)
so that the installation will
finish, then remove the extra ram. Xp will work with only 32 mb ram.

2) take the hard disk out, install on another similar laptop with more ram,
replace hard disk and then do a repair installation (this *may* work.. not
sure that the repair will let you do the repair with less ram, although I
think it will).

3) use some sort of ghost software to create an image of xp on the disk
without installing.

Now I just gave you some ways to do it, but the laptop will be too slow with
XP (unless you make a lite version of xp.. look farther down).
I would advise you to upgrade the memory anyway.. ram never does any harm.

For those who question my motives... I have succesfully installed XP on a
pentium 90 Mhz with 64 mb ram just to see if it can be done, and I am sure I
could make xp run (load not run, perhaps crawl) on a good 486.
Theoretically a 386 can do it too since it is 32 bit....

Of course there are ways to make lite versions of xp...

Before install---see this: http://nuhi.msfn.org/nlite.html

and this---Post install:

http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html


Kenny





"Gary Roach" <jgroach@NOSPAMcogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:eP0ubSvVFHA.928@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
>questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
>memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the
>64M memory requirement? thanks for any help
>
> --
> Gary Roach
> ADB Services
>
>

Kenny S
07-10-2005, 02:15 AM
Before I get some MVPs telling me that this is unsupported,
I have to say that I read on CNET (I think?) that microsoft will relase a
lite version of xp for older systems.


"Kenny S" <hotmail@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:ejBqOlMWFHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You have 2 options
>
> 1) temporarilly install another 32 mb ram (borrow it from another laptop?)
> so that the installation will
> finish, then remove the extra ram. Xp will work with only 32 mb ram.
>
> 2) take the hard disk out, install on another similar laptop with more
> ram, replace hard disk and then do a repair installation (this *may*
> work.. not sure that the repair will let you do the repair with less ram,
> although I think it will).
>
> 3) use some sort of ghost software to create an image of xp on the disk
> without installing.
>
> Now I just gave you some ways to do it, but the laptop will be too slow
> with XP (unless you make a lite version of xp.. look farther down).
> I would advise you to upgrade the memory anyway.. ram never does any harm.
>
> For those who question my motives... I have succesfully installed XP on a
> pentium 90 Mhz with 64 mb ram just to see if it can be done, and I am sure
> I could make xp run (load not run, perhaps crawl) on a good 486.
> Theoretically a 386 can do it too since it is 32 bit....
>
> Of course there are ways to make lite versions of xp...
>
> Before install---see this: http://nuhi.msfn.org/nlite.html
>
> and this---Post install:
>
> http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html
>
>
> Kenny
>
>
>
>
>
> "Gary Roach" <jgroach@NOSPAMcogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:eP0ubSvVFHA.928@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
>>questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
>>memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the
>>64M memory requirement? thanks for any help
>>
>> --
>> Gary Roach
>> ADB Services
>>
>>
>
>

Kenny S
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
here is an article discribing the new lite version of windows

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1815438,00.asp



"Kenny S" <hotmail@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:enkntqMWFHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Before I get some MVPs telling me that this is unsupported,
> I have to say that I read on CNET (I think?) that microsoft will relase a
> lite version of xp for older systems.
>
>
> "Kenny S" <hotmail@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ejBqOlMWFHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> You have 2 options
>>
>> 1) temporarilly install another 32 mb ram (borrow it from another
>> laptop?) so that the installation will
>> finish, then remove the extra ram. Xp will work with only 32 mb ram.
>>
>> 2) take the hard disk out, install on another similar laptop with more
>> ram, replace hard disk and then do a repair installation (this *may*
>> work.. not sure that the repair will let you do the repair with less ram,
>> although I think it will).
>>
>> 3) use some sort of ghost software to create an image of xp on the disk
>> without installing.
>>
>> Now I just gave you some ways to do it, but the laptop will be too slow
>> with XP (unless you make a lite version of xp.. look farther down).
>> I would advise you to upgrade the memory anyway.. ram never does any
>> harm.
>>
>> For those who question my motives... I have succesfully installed XP on a
>> pentium 90 Mhz with 64 mb ram just to see if it can be done, and I am
>> sure I could make xp run (load not run, perhaps crawl) on a good 486.
>> Theoretically a 386 can do it too since it is 32 bit....
>>
>> Of course there are ways to make lite versions of xp...
>>
>> Before install---see this: http://nuhi.msfn.org/nlite.html
>>
>> and this---Post install:
>>
>> http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html
>>
>>
>> Kenny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gary Roach" <jgroach@NOSPAMcogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eP0ubSvVFHA.928@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
>>>questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade
>>>the memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override
>>>the 64M memory requirement? thanks for any help
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Roach
>>> ADB Services
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

BullGates
07-10-2005, 02:17 AM
Yes you can remove that limitation, but it will be hard to run XP with
32Mb of memory - you'll need to tweak your xp installation. If you're
still interested in knowing how, I will inform you by email.

Gary Roach wrote:
> i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
> questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
> memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the 64M
> memory requirement? thanks for any help
>

BullGates
07-10-2005, 02:17 AM
Nlite will also override the memory limit of installation.

Kenny S wrote:
> Before I get some MVPs telling me that this is unsupported,
> I have to say that I read on CNET (I think?) that microsoft will relase a
> lite version of xp for older systems.
>
>
> "Kenny S" <hotmail@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ejBqOlMWFHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
>>You have 2 options
>>
>>1) temporarilly install another 32 mb ram (borrow it from another laptop?)
>>so that the installation will
>>finish, then remove the extra ram. Xp will work with only 32 mb ram.
>>
>>2) take the hard disk out, install on another similar laptop with more
>>ram, replace hard disk and then do a repair installation (this *may*
>>work.. not sure that the repair will let you do the repair with less ram,
>>although I think it will).
>>
>>3) use some sort of ghost software to create an image of xp on the disk
>>without installing.
>>
>>Now I just gave you some ways to do it, but the laptop will be too slow
>>with XP (unless you make a lite version of xp.. look farther down).
>>I would advise you to upgrade the memory anyway.. ram never does any harm.
>>
>>For those who question my motives... I have succesfully installed XP on a
>>pentium 90 Mhz with 64 mb ram just to see if it can be done, and I am sure
>>I could make xp run (load not run, perhaps crawl) on a good 486.
>>Theoretically a 386 can do it too since it is 32 bit....
>>
>>Of course there are ways to make lite versions of xp...
>>
>>Before install---see this: http://nuhi.msfn.org/nlite.html
>>
>>and this---Post install:
>>
>>http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html
>>
>>
>>Kenny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Gary Roach" <jgroach@NOSPAMcogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>news:eP0ubSvVFHA.928@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>i want to install xp on a laptop that only has 32M of memory. it's
>>>questionable whether the hardware will work so i don't want to upgrade the
>>>memory until i find out if i can install. is there a way to override the
>>>64M memory requirement? thanks for any help
>>>
>>>--
>>>Gary Roach
>>>ADB Services
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Shenan Stanley
07-10-2005, 02:17 AM
BullGates wrote:
> Yes you can remove that limitation, but it will be hard to run XP with
> 32Mb of memory - you'll need to tweak your xp installation. If you're
> still interested in knowing how, I will inform you by email.

Why email?

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