Re: joysticks,game controllers not support with my xp computer



Pred
07-09-2005, 09:40 PM
The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
work fine.

"Jimmy S." wrote:

> Hi Pred,
>
> Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
> Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
> Have you upgraded to SP 2?
> Try the suggestions in this article as well:
> http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
>
> --
> Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> _________________________________________________________
>
> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:33809D94-984C-4D05-A14A-700F4A044347@microsoft.com...
> |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
> | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
> | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
> | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
> | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
> | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
> | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
> | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
> | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
> | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
> | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
> | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
> | I found, it was lacking HID.
> |
> | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Pred,
> | >
> | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
> | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
> | >
> | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
> | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
> | >
> | > --
> | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | >
> | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > _________________________________________________________
> | >
> | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:260102EE-0938-4ED7-9EF7-2A67EF379B19@microsoft.com...
> | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
> | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
> | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
> | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
> | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
> | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
> | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
> | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
> | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
> | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
> | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
> | > |
> | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | >
> | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
> | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | >
> | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | >
> | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F193E6C-36FC-4806-AE4A-90E7607C1CA1@microsoft.com...
> | > | > |I already tried that.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Pred,
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
> | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
> | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
> | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
> | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D0ADF6BC-914E-4FFD-85B2-CBEC6C59001C@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
> | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
> | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
> | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
> | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
> | > | > | > | problem.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
> | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
> | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0BD34815-C8AE-4ADF-9C04-75639ABC91C7@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
> | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
> | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
> | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
> | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D1CFA4C0-59F9-4E2E-8C2F-9CE457729FEF@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
> | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
> | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
> | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
> | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > | > | > news:D5065B0A-EF1E-471F-848E-D8B642C76BB1@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> news:258AD0E5-050E-4DEB-9D24-86AC855D080A@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> "tt" <tt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> news:03992572-95BE-49DF-B2A4-9E4564D48B0A@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
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Jimmy S.
07-09-2005, 09:40 PM
Hi Pred,

If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

"Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:409D3B4B-4511-423B-9393-3A9A23C7A9EB@microsoft.com...
| The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
| that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
| work fine.
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
| > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
| > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
| > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
| > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:33809D94-984C-4D05-A14A-700F4A044347@microsoft.com...
| > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| > | I found, it was lacking HID.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| > | >
| > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:260102EE-0938-4ED7-9EF7-2A67EF379B19@microsoft.com...
| > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F193E6C-36FC-4806-AE4A-90E7607C1CA1@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D0ADF6BC-914E-4FFD-85B2-CBEC6C59001C@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0BD34815-C8AE-4ADF-9C04-75639ABC91C7@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:D1CFA4C0-59F9-4E2E-8C2F-9CE457729FEF@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > news:D5065B0A-EF1E-471F-848E-D8B642C76BB1@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> news:258AD0E5-050E-4DEB-9D24-86AC855D080A@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> "tt" <tt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> news:03992572-95BE-49DF-B2A4-9E4564D48B0A@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
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Pred
07-09-2005, 09:40 PM
I went to that website and it was of no help, thank you anyway though.

"Jimmy S." wrote:

> Hi Pred,
>
> If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
> http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
>
> --
> Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> _________________________________________________________
>
> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:409D3B4B-4511-423B-9393-3A9A23C7A9EB@microsoft.com...
> | The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
> | that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
> | work fine.
> |
> | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Pred,
> | >
> | > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
> | > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
> | > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
> | > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
> | > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
> | >
> | > --
> | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | >
> | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > _________________________________________________________
> | >
> | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:33809D94-984C-4D05-A14A-700F4A044347@microsoft.com...
> | > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
> | > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
> | > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
> | > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
> | > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
> | > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
> | > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
> | > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
> | > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
> | > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
> | > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
> | > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
> | > | I found, it was lacking HID.
> | > |
> | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | >
> | > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
> | > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
> | > | >
> | > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
> | > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | >
> | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | >
> | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:260102EE-0938-4ED7-9EF7-2A67EF379B19@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
> | > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
> | > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
> | > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
> | > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
> | > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
> | > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
> | > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
> | > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
> | > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
> | > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
> | > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F193E6C-36FC-4806-AE4A-90E7607C1CA1@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > |I already tried that.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > Pred,
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
> | > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
> | > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
> | > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
> | > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D0ADF6BC-914E-4FFD-85B2-CBEC6C59001C@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
> | > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
> | > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
> | > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
> | > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
> | > | > | > | > | problem.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
> | > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
> | > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0BD34815-C8AE-4ADF-9C04-75639ABC91C7@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
> | > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
> | > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
> | > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
> | > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:D1CFA4C0-59F9-4E2E-8C2F-9CE457729FEF@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > news:D5065B0A-EF1E-471F-848E-D8B642C76BB1@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> news:258AD0E5-050E-4DEB-9D24-86AC855D080A@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> "tt" <tt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> news:03992572-95BE-49DF-B2A4-9E4564D48B0A@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
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Re: joysticks,game controllers not support with my xp computer