Re: joysticks,game controllers not support with my xp computer



Pred
07-09-2005, 09:40 PM
I could not track down all the info for everyone else, but on the few I could
here is what I found. On my PC I had XP SP1 and no HID, I am now running XP
SP2 and still do not have HID. My room mate has XP SP1 and has HID on a
different brand PC. Some Dells and some Gateways seem to have the same
problem I do but I could not determine if they were using SP1 or SP2. Not
sure about if anyone ran System File Checker.

"Chris H." wrote:

> Out of curiosity, how many of these machines are running XP SP2 and how
> many on SP1? Is there a commonality among computer brands? How are the 88
> individuals viewing things in Device Manager? Is it by Devices by type,
> Devices by connection, Resources by type or Resources by connection? Have
> any of these folks run System File Checker?
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:33809D94-984C-4D05-A14A-700F4A044347@microsoft.com...
> >I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
> > store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
> > about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After
> > reading
> > and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the
> > missing
> > HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles
> > do
> > not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
> > lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
> > mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
> > listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
> > shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time
> > and
> > effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and
> > which
> > PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it
> > that
> > I found, it was lacking HID.
> >
> > "Jimmy S." wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Pred,
> >>
> >> Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
> >> for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
> >>
> >> You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
> >> Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> >> Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >>
> >> Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> >> Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> >> MS Assisted Support:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> >> My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
> >> rights.
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:260102EE-0938-4ED7-9EF7-2A67EF379B19@microsoft.com...
> >> | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
> >> | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller
> >> to the
> >> | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked
> >> on
> >> | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their
> >> drivers.
> >> | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller
> >> and
> >> | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I
> >> tried
> >> | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows
> >> and
> >> | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena
> >> site and
> >> | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot
> >> see HID
> >> | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
> >> | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
> >> |
> >> | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> >> |
> >> | > Hi Pred,
> >> | >
> >> | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
> >> | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
> >> | >
> >> | > --
> >> | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
> >> | > Jimmy S.
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >> | >
> >> | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
> >> http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> >> | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
> >> http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> >> | > MS Assisted Support:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> >> | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
> >> rights.
> >> | > _________________________________________________________
> >> | >
> >> | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2F193E6C-36FC-4806-AE4A-90E7607C1CA1@microsoft.com...
> >> | > |I already tried that.
> >> | > |
> >> | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> >> | > |
> >> | > | > Pred,
> >> | > | >
> >> | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
> >> | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
> >> | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
> >> | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
> >> | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
> >> | > | >
> >> | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
> >> | > | >
> >> | > | > --
> >> | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell /
> >> User
> >> | > | > Jimmy S.
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >> | > | >
> >> | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
> >> http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> >> | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
> >> http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> >> | > | > MS Assisted Support:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> >> | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer
> >> any rights.
> >> | > | > _________________________________________________________
> >> | > | >
> >> | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D0ADF6BC-914E-4FFD-85B2-CBEC6C59001C@microsoft.com...
> >> | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and
> >> effort but none
> >> | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to
> >> get game
> >> | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why
> >> do some PCs
> >> | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up
> >> Dual Shock
> >> | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users
> >> that share my
> >> | > | > | problem.
> >> | > | > |
> >> | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> >> | > | > |
> >> | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> >> | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the
> >> specifications
> >> | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
> >> | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
> >> | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > --
> >> | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell
> >> / User
> >> | > | > | > Jimmy S.
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >> | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
> >> http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> >> | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
> >> http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> >> | > | > | > MS Assisted Support:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> >> | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
> >> confer any rights.
> >> | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> >> | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0BD34815-C8AE-4ADF-9C04-75639ABC91C7@microsoft.com...
> >> | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and
> >> VT6212 and also
> >> | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2,
> >> they have XP
> >> | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and
> >> clicked on each USB
> >> | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
> >> | > | > | > |
> >> | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
> >> | > | > | > |
> >> | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
> >> | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
> >> | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
> >> | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > --
> >> | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP
> >> Shell / User
> >> | > | > | > | > Jimmy S.
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >> | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
> >> http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
> >> | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
> >> http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
> >> | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
> >> | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
> >> confer any rights.
> >> | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
> >> | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D1CFA4C0-59F9-4E2E-8C2F-9CE457729FEF@microsoft.com...
> >> | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me
> >> the HID catagory under
> >> | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the
> >> game controllers to
> >> | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the
> >> MS site.
> >> | > | > | > | > |
> >> | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
> >> | > | > | > | > |
> >> | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure
> >> you are running new
> >> | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers
> >> and game controllers.
> >> | > | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
> >> | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
> >> | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
> >> | > | > | > | > | > -----
> >> | > | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
> >> | > | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >> and confers no rights
> >> | > | > | > | > | >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> | > | > | > | > | >
> >> news:D5065B0A-EF1E-471F-848E-D8B642C76BB1@microsoft.com...
> >> | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other
> >> devices like USB
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >>
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game
> >> controllers BEFORE you
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> --
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >>
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> "Pred" <Pred@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >>
> >> news:258AD0E5-050E-4DEB-9D24-86AC855D080A@microsoft.com...
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller.
> >> It works fine on my
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my
> >> XP based pc's. None
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get
> >> HID for XP Home?
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port
> >> devices, since the form
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on
> >> Windows XP - however, just
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control
> >> Panel/Game Controllers and
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like
> >> Microsoft SideWinder)
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part
> >> of Windows XP and will
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose
> >> the old "profile"
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game
> >> Controllers, but if the games
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save
> >> them there.
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
> >> | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


Re: joysticks,game controllers not support with my xp computer