Ray
07-10-2005, 01:51 AM
"Chuck" wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:26:03 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 10 May 2005 15:10:04 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:36:06 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Ray" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 10 May 2005 10:36:04 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> On Mon, 9 May 2005 21:42:05 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >I have 2 home computers networked together with a router. The main most
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >powerfull computer(A) is running XP home sp2 while the old less powerfull one
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >(B) is running xp professional I can see them both in the work group but it
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >will not let me access B.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >I get this message when I try" \\Old is not accessible. you might not have
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >permission to use this resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >find out if you have access permisions.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >The network path was not found.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >Any ideas???
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >Ray
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Ray,
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > The browser is a very common cause of problems like yours.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking about
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > You can download Browstat from either:
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
> >> >> >> > >> >> > file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
> >> >> >> > >> >> > window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers list the same master
> >> >> >> > >> >> > browser.
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=231312
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q102878/
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > If no help yet, provide ipconfig information for each computer, as a start.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 1) Start - Run - "cmd".
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 2) Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command window.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 3) Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 4) Open file c:\ipconfig.txt from Notepad.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 5) Copy and paste entire contents of the file into your next post.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 6) Identify operating system (by name, version, and Service Pack level) with
> >> >> >> > >> >> > each ipconfig listing.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > <SNIP>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Ray,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > By the other program that you couldn't get working, did you mean browstat? What
> >> >> >> > error did you get from it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Let's try and enumerate your symptoms, so we can diagnose them. We may end up
> >> >> >> > coming back to browstat though.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Please verify
> >> >> >> > computer names and ip addresses).
> >> >> >> >
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> chuck,
> >> >> >> heres the info
> >> >>
> >> >> <SNIP>
> >> >>
> >> >> >NEWNEWNEWNEWNEW
> >> >> >
> >> >> >i have run browstat on both and on the old2 computer browsing is not active
> >> >> >and the Master name cannot be determined from getadapterstatus.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ray
> >> >>
> >> >> Ray,
> >> >>
> >> >> So far, I see a total lack of connectivity from "MAINCOMPUTER to OLD2. It will
> >> >> be good to see the results of CDiag run on OLD2, can I expect that to be coming
> >> >> soon?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, were you to post the results of "browstat status" run on both computers,
> >> >> your efforts would not be wasted.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you have a personal firewall (ICF / WF, or third party) on either computer?
> >> >> If so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are
> >> >> a very common cause of connectivity, (network) browser, and file sharing,
> >> >> problems. What AntiVirus product do you use?
> >> >>
> >> >> As of right now, noting ability to access the internet, I can rule out
> >> >> connectivity problems with MAINCOMPUTER. Other than that, I can't be sure.
> >> >> With suggested additional diagnostics, that may change.
> >>
> >> >Chuck,
> >> >heres the cdiag for OLD2
> >>
> >> <SNIP>
> >>
> >> >I have run browstat on both and I am not sure how to copy paste from the
> >> >command line results .
> >> >the browstat results from OLD2 is in an earlier post. I am running Norton on
> >> >OLD2 and McAfee firewall plus from maincomputer.
> >> >thanks,Ray
> >>
> >> Ray,
> >>
> >> From both computers please:
> >> 1) Start - Run - "cmd".
> >> 2) Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command window.
> >> 3) Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!.
> >> 4) Open file c:\browstat.txt from Notepad.
> >> 5) Copy and paste entire contents of the file into your next post.
> >>
> >> You have total lack of connectivity between the two computers (other than
> >> apparent browser enumeration one way), though neither has any problems getting
> >> to the internet. Both computers are connected thru a NAT router (make and model
> >> might help here), so both should be on a LAN.
> >>
> >> Node types Hybrid and Unknown are compatible, so "Network path not found" is not
> >> an address resolution problem. That agrees with the CDiag outputs. This almost
> >> has to be a firewall problem.
> >>
> >> Is Norton part of NIS or NPF? McAfee firewall plus is a candidate for the
> >> problem. You have to configure personal firewalls properly, or un install them,
> >> completely, using all instructions from the vendor. Norton / Symantec, and
> >> McAfee, are both known for this problem - don't believe me, check some other
> >> posts here.
> >>
> >> You say that you can see OLD2 from MAINCOMPUTER, but can't access it. How about
> >> MAINCOMPUTER from OLD2 - what symptoms there?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience.
> >> My email is AT DOT
> >> actual address pchuck sonic net.
> >>
> >
> >Chuck,
> >here is the browstat from OLD2
> >
> >
> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F018C76-4795-4BF8-BFEB-3025CE5777F1}
> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
> >
> >and from Maincomputer
> >
> >
> >
> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{79197843-7FCB-4FC4-964C-2E029596B50A}
> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
> >
> >both are running through a Linksys wireless g broadband router
> >both are on a LAN
> >from OLD@ I cant even get into the workgroup Mshome it says it isnt
> >accesible and says the list of servers cannot be found
> >I am not sure of the answer toyour Norton question...
> >Ray
>
> Ray,
>
> One of the computers has to be running the browser, and both computers have to
> be properly connected, with no interfering firewalls, for you too see each
> computer from the other. The "Browsing is NOT active on domain." message on
> both computers makes this unlikely.
>
> Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
> for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each computer?
> Do you have shares setup on each?
>
> Are you running NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP
> - Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer?
>
> Make sure the browser service is running on one computer. Control Panel -
> Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. On the other
> computer, verify that the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service, only, shows with Status
> = Started.
>
> If this doen't help, I'm going to ask that you contact me by email, so you can
> email me some attachments that are binary in nature and can't be posted here.
> We have to identify the firewalls that are causing your problems.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>
Chuck,
I followed all of the procedures you told me of and I looked at all the
firewall programs and adjusted them as I felt would help, after re booting
both computers...voila!!...a working network. I appreciate all of your
knowledge and help. I also appreciate you teaching me a little about
networking as we went along. I hope you enjoy what you do because you are
obviously good at it. If I have any more questions I hope you are available
to answer them.If you have no objections I would like to keep your email and
contact you if I need to. Thank you again,
Ray Jaramillo
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:26:03 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 10 May 2005 15:10:04 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:36:06 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Ray" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 10 May 2005 10:36:04 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> On Mon, 9 May 2005 21:42:05 -0700, Ray <Ray@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >I have 2 home computers networked together with a router. The main most
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >powerfull computer(A) is running XP home sp2 while the old less powerfull one
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >(B) is running xp professional I can see them both in the work group but it
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >will not let me access B.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >I get this message when I try" \\Old is not accessible. you might not have
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >permission to use this resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >find out if you have access permisions.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >The network path was not found.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >Any ideas???
> >> >> >> > >> >> > >Ray
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Ray,
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > The browser is a very common cause of problems like yours.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking about
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > You can download Browstat from either:
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
> >> >> >> > >> >> > file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
> >> >> >> > >> >> > window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers list the same master
> >> >> >> > >> >> > browser.
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=231312
> >> >> >> > >> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q102878/
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>
> >> >> >> > >> >> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx>
> >> >> >> > >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >> > If no help yet, provide ipconfig information for each computer, as a start.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 1) Start - Run - "cmd".
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 2) Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command window.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 3) Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 4) Open file c:\ipconfig.txt from Notepad.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 5) Copy and paste entire contents of the file into your next post.
> >> >> >> > >> >> > 6) Identify operating system (by name, version, and Service Pack level) with
> >> >> >> > >> >> > each ipconfig listing.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > <SNIP>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Ray,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > By the other program that you couldn't get working, did you mean browstat? What
> >> >> >> > error did you get from it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Let's try and enumerate your symptoms, so we can diagnose them. We may end up
> >> >> >> > coming back to browstat though.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Please verify
> >> >> >> > computer names and ip addresses).
> >> >> >> >
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> chuck,
> >> >> >> heres the info
> >> >>
> >> >> <SNIP>
> >> >>
> >> >> >NEWNEWNEWNEWNEW
> >> >> >
> >> >> >i have run browstat on both and on the old2 computer browsing is not active
> >> >> >and the Master name cannot be determined from getadapterstatus.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Ray
> >> >>
> >> >> Ray,
> >> >>
> >> >> So far, I see a total lack of connectivity from "MAINCOMPUTER to OLD2. It will
> >> >> be good to see the results of CDiag run on OLD2, can I expect that to be coming
> >> >> soon?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, were you to post the results of "browstat status" run on both computers,
> >> >> your efforts would not be wasted.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you have a personal firewall (ICF / WF, or third party) on either computer?
> >> >> If so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are
> >> >> a very common cause of connectivity, (network) browser, and file sharing,
> >> >> problems. What AntiVirus product do you use?
> >> >>
> >> >> As of right now, noting ability to access the internet, I can rule out
> >> >> connectivity problems with MAINCOMPUTER. Other than that, I can't be sure.
> >> >> With suggested additional diagnostics, that may change.
> >>
> >> >Chuck,
> >> >heres the cdiag for OLD2
> >>
> >> <SNIP>
> >>
> >> >I have run browstat on both and I am not sure how to copy paste from the
> >> >command line results .
> >> >the browstat results from OLD2 is in an earlier post. I am running Norton on
> >> >OLD2 and McAfee firewall plus from maincomputer.
> >> >thanks,Ray
> >>
> >> Ray,
> >>
> >> From both computers please:
> >> 1) Start - Run - "cmd".
> >> 2) Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command window.
> >> 3) Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!.
> >> 4) Open file c:\browstat.txt from Notepad.
> >> 5) Copy and paste entire contents of the file into your next post.
> >>
> >> You have total lack of connectivity between the two computers (other than
> >> apparent browser enumeration one way), though neither has any problems getting
> >> to the internet. Both computers are connected thru a NAT router (make and model
> >> might help here), so both should be on a LAN.
> >>
> >> Node types Hybrid and Unknown are compatible, so "Network path not found" is not
> >> an address resolution problem. That agrees with the CDiag outputs. This almost
> >> has to be a firewall problem.
> >>
> >> Is Norton part of NIS or NPF? McAfee firewall plus is a candidate for the
> >> problem. You have to configure personal firewalls properly, or un install them,
> >> completely, using all instructions from the vendor. Norton / Symantec, and
> >> McAfee, are both known for this problem - don't believe me, check some other
> >> posts here.
> >>
> >> You say that you can see OLD2 from MAINCOMPUTER, but can't access it. How about
> >> MAINCOMPUTER from OLD2 - what symptoms there?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience.
> >> My email is AT DOT
> >> actual address pchuck sonic net.
> >>
> >
> >Chuck,
> >here is the browstat from OLD2
> >
> >
> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0F018C76-4795-4BF8-BFEB-3025CE5777F1}
> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
> >
> >and from Maincomputer
> >
> >
> >
> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{79197843-7FCB-4FC4-964C-2E029596B50A}
> > Browsing is NOT active on domain.
> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
> >
> >both are running through a Linksys wireless g broadband router
> >both are on a LAN
> >from OLD@ I cant even get into the workgroup Mshome it says it isnt
> >accesible and says the list of servers cannot be found
> >I am not sure of the answer toyour Norton question...
> >Ray
>
> Ray,
>
> One of the computers has to be running the browser, and both computers have to
> be properly connected, with no interfering firewalls, for you too see each
> computer from the other. The "Browsing is NOT active on domain." message on
> both computers makes this unlikely.
>
> Are you running both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing
> for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each computer?
> Do you have shares setup on each?
>
> Are you running NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP
> - Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer?
>
> Make sure the browser service is running on one computer. Control Panel -
> Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
> TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. On the other
> computer, verify that the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service, only, shows with Status
> = Started.
>
> If this doen't help, I'm going to ask that you contact me by email, so you can
> email me some attachments that are binary in nature and can't be posted here.
> We have to identify the firewalls that are causing your problems.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not necessarily a bad thing - it comes from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>
Chuck,
I followed all of the procedures you told me of and I looked at all the
firewall programs and adjusted them as I felt would help, after re booting
both computers...voila!!...a working network. I appreciate all of your
knowledge and help. I also appreciate you teaching me a little about
networking as we went along. I hope you enjoy what you do because you are
obviously good at it. If I have any more questions I hope you are available
to answer them.If you have no objections I would like to keep your email and
contact you if I need to. Thank you again,
Ray Jaramillo