Re: administrator account hidden



dbzrocks
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
Hi Doug!
I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account, but
on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So it
would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into safe
mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up. Is
there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was administrator.
I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
there, but I cannot use any of them. I want to either use the admin account
I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in user
account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account. Hope
you can help. Thanks, Rhonda

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

> The Administrator account is still there.
>
> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
>
> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once you're in Safe Mode.
>
> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen, visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section. Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative account
> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I look at
> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others, but
> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back. The
> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
Rhonda,

You don't say if you're running XP Pro or XP Home. The first method, CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen works for XP Pro, not Home. Enter Administrator and try leaving the password blank/empty.

For XP Home: Once you're in Safe Mode, you don't need the CTRL-ALT-DEL method. The built in Administrator account will show up on the Welcome Screen. Of course, this assumes that you have the Welcome Screen enabled.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
> Hi Doug!
> I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account, but
> on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So it
> would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
> work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into safe
> mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up. Is
> there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was administrator.
> I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
> this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
> limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
> password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
> there, but I cannot use any of them. I want to either use the admin account
> I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in user
> account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
> listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account. Hope
> you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> The Administrator account is still there.
>>
>> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
>>
>> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once you're in Safe Mode.
>>
>> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen, visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section. Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
>> --------------------------------
>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> --------------------------------
>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>
>> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
>> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative account
>> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
>> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I look at
>> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others, but
>> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
>> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back. The
>> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
>>

george
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
inline...


"dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
> Hi Doug!
> I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account,
> but
> on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So
> it
> would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
> work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into
> safe
> mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up.
> Is
> there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was
> administrator.
> I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
> this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
> limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
> password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
> there, but I cannot use any of them.

As you can see the list of users I infer that you apparently ARE able to get
into the system (in safe mode?)

In that case you might try the following.
get a 30-day trail copy of Hyena (http://www.systemtools.com/hyena/)
That will list (among others) your users and you will be able to make your
original account 'Administrator' a member of the group 'Administrators' and
possibly assign a new password.
I've seen the behaviour in XP Home that when accounts are made 'Limited',
they vanish from the Welcome screen.
They stay on the system, but have become unusable.
'Limited' translates to the group 'Power Users', but that group does not
exist in Home Ed, thus leaving the accounts member of a group the OS does
not understand.

hth

george



> I want to either use the admin account
> I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in
> user
> account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
> listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account.
> Hope
> you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> The Administrator account is still there.
>>
>> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the
>> Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
>>
>> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via
>> Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The
>> built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once
>> you're in Safe Mode.
>>
>> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen,
>> visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section.
>> Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same
>> restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
>> Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
>> --------------------------------
>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> --------------------------------
>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>
>> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
>> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative
>> >account
>> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
>> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I
>> > look at
>> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others,
>> > but
>> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
>> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back.
>> > The
>> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
>>

dbzrocks
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
I think your suggestion is a good one, except that I cannot download Hyena as
I do not have administrative privaledges. Any other suggestions?

"george" wrote:

> inline...
>
>
> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Doug!
> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account,
> > but
> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So
> > it
> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into
> > safe
> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up.
> > Is
> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was
> > administrator.
> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
> > there, but I cannot use any of them.
>
> As you can see the list of users I infer that you apparently ARE able to get
> into the system (in safe mode?)
>
> In that case you might try the following.
> get a 30-day trail copy of Hyena (http://www.systemtools.com/hyena/)
> That will list (among others) your users and you will be able to make your
> original account 'Administrator' a member of the group 'Administrators' and
> possibly assign a new password.
> I've seen the behaviour in XP Home that when accounts are made 'Limited',
> they vanish from the Welcome screen.
> They stay on the system, but have become unusable.
> 'Limited' translates to the group 'Power Users', but that group does not
> exist in Home Ed, thus leaving the accounts member of a group the OS does
> not understand.
>
> hth
>
> george
>
>
>
> > I want to either use the admin account
> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in
> > user
> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account.
> > Hope
> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> The Administrator account is still there.
> >>
> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the
> >> Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
> >>
> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via
> >> Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The
> >> built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once
> >> you're in Safe Mode.
> >>
> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen,
> >> visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section.
> >> Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same
> >> restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> >> Display\Security
> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> http://www.dougknox.com
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >>
> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative
> >> >account
> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I
> >> > look at
> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others,
> >> > but
> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back.
> >> > The
> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
> >>
>
>
>

dbzrocks
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
I am running xp pro, and when I type administrator and then either try to
enter a password or leave it blank, it says it cannot be done? I really need
help with this. I have not been able to do anything with my computer since
this happened last week. When I hit control/alt/del twice, it does not bring
up the 2000 welcome window. I did not have 2000 previously. Can I do
anything from the user list? thanks for any help you can give. rhonda

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

> Rhonda,
>
> You don't say if you're running XP Pro or XP Home. The first method, CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen works for XP Pro, not Home. Enter Administrator and try leaving the password blank/empty.
>
> For XP Home: Once you're in Safe Mode, you don't need the CTRL-ALT-DEL method. The built in Administrator account will show up on the Welcome Screen. Of course, this assumes that you have the Welcome Screen enabled.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Doug!
> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account, but
> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So it
> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into safe
> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up. Is
> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was administrator.
> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
> > there, but I cannot use any of them. I want to either use the admin account
> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in user
> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account. Hope
> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> The Administrator account is still there.
> >>
> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
> >>
> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once you're in Safe Mode.
> >>
> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen, visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section. Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> http://www.dougknox.com
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >>
> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative account
> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I look at
> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others, but
> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back. The
> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
> >>
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
What do you mean "cannot be done"? Please provide the exact text of the messsage.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:84E9EE2F-F569-4AD2-8EA9-1AC6529A32F7@microsoft.com...
>I am running xp pro, and when I type administrator and then either try to
> enter a password or leave it blank, it says it cannot be done? I really need
> help with this. I have not been able to do anything with my computer since
> this happened last week. When I hit control/alt/del twice, it does not bring
> up the 2000 welcome window. I did not have 2000 previously. Can I do
> anything from the user list? thanks for any help you can give. rhonda
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> Rhonda,
>>
>> You don't say if you're running XP Pro or XP Home. The first method, CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen works for XP Pro, not Home. Enter Administrator and try leaving the password blank/empty.
>>
>> For XP Home: Once you're in Safe Mode, you don't need the CTRL-ALT-DEL method. The built in Administrator account will show up on the Welcome Screen. Of course, this assumes that you have the Welcome Screen enabled.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
>> --------------------------------
>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> --------------------------------
>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>
>> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Doug!
>> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account, but
>> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So it
>> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
>> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into safe
>> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up. Is
>> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was administrator.
>> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
>> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
>> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
>> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
>> > there, but I cannot use any of them. I want to either use the admin account
>> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in user
>> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
>> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account. Hope
>> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
>> >
>> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Administrator account is still there.
>> >>
>> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
>> >>
>> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once you're in Safe Mode.
>> >>
>> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen, visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section. Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> >> http://www.dougknox.com
>> >> --------------------------------
>> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> >> --------------------------------
>> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>> >>
>> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative account
>> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
>> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I look at
>> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others, but
>> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
>> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back. The
>> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
>> >>
>>

dbzrocks
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
I did not mean to say that it said it cannot be done. It just does not work.
I tried 3 or 4 ways to correct this problem, and so far none work. If I go
to the welcome screen and c/a/del twice, nothing happens. If I go into safe
mode and try and change it, it does not change it. I am really getting
desperate. I need to get my administrative status back. I cannot make any
changes to my system, I cannot download or anything. I hope this clarifies
what problems I am having. Thanks Rhonda

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

> What do you mean "cannot be done"? Please provide the exact text of the messsage.
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:84E9EE2F-F569-4AD2-8EA9-1AC6529A32F7@microsoft.com...
> >I am running xp pro, and when I type administrator and then either try to
> > enter a password or leave it blank, it says it cannot be done? I really need
> > help with this. I have not been able to do anything with my computer since
> > this happened last week. When I hit control/alt/del twice, it does not bring
> > up the 2000 welcome window. I did not have 2000 previously. Can I do
> > anything from the user list? thanks for any help you can give. rhonda
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> Rhonda,
> >>
> >> You don't say if you're running XP Pro or XP Home. The first method, CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen works for XP Pro, not Home. Enter Administrator and try leaving the password blank/empty.
> >>
> >> For XP Home: Once you're in Safe Mode, you don't need the CTRL-ALT-DEL method. The built in Administrator account will show up on the Welcome Screen. Of course, this assumes that you have the Welcome Screen enabled.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> http://www.dougknox.com
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >>
> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Doug!
> >> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account, but
> >> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So it
> >> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
> >> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into safe
> >> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up. Is
> >> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was administrator.
> >> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
> >> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
> >> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
> >> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
> >> > there, but I cannot use any of them. I want to either use the admin account
> >> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in user
> >> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
> >> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account. Hope
> >> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
> >> >
> >> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The Administrator account is still there.
> >> >>
> >> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
> >> >>
> >> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once you're in Safe Mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen, visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section. Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
> >> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> >> http://www.dougknox.com
> >> >> --------------------------------
> >> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> >> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> >> --------------------------------
> >> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >> >>
> >> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative account
> >> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
> >> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I look at
> >> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others, but
> >> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
> >> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back. The
> >> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
> >> >>
> >>
>

dbzrocks
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
I am totally new to this newsgroup, and do not know what inline is. Please
explain.

"george" wrote:

> inline...
>
>
> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Doug!
> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account,
> > but
> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So
> > it
> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into
> > safe
> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up.
> > Is
> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was
> > administrator.
> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
> > there, but I cannot use any of them.
>
> As you can see the list of users I infer that you apparently ARE able to get
> into the system (in safe mode?)
>
> In that case you might try the following.
> get a 30-day trail copy of Hyena (http://www.systemtools.com/hyena/)
> That will list (among others) your users and you will be able to make your
> original account 'Administrator' a member of the group 'Administrators' and
> possibly assign a new password.
> I've seen the behaviour in XP Home that when accounts are made 'Limited',
> they vanish from the Welcome screen.
> They stay on the system, but have become unusable.
> 'Limited' translates to the group 'Power Users', but that group does not
> exist in Home Ed, thus leaving the accounts member of a group the OS does
> not understand.
>
> hth
>
> george
>
>
>
> > I want to either use the admin account
> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in
> > user
> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account.
> > Hope
> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> The Administrator account is still there.
> >>
> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the
> >> Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
> >>
> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via
> >> Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The
> >> built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once
> >> you're in Safe Mode.
> >>
> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen,
> >> visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section.
> >> Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same
> >> restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> >> Display\Security
> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> http://www.dougknox.com
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >>
> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative
> >> >account
> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I
> >> > look at
> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others,
> >> > but
> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back.
> >> > The
> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
> >>
>
>
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
The poster's responses are embedded within the original text of your message.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FE4D9EDE-8BB3-46B6-8C81-10CE93AB99D5@microsoft.com...
>I am totally new to this newsgroup, and do not know what inline is. Please
> explain.
>
> "george" wrote:
>
>> inline...
>>
>>
>> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Doug!
>> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account,
>> > but
>> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So
>> > it
>> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
>> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into
>> > safe
>> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up.
>> > Is
>> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was
>> > administrator.
>> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
>> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
>> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
>> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
>> > there, but I cannot use any of them.
>>
>> As you can see the list of users I infer that you apparently ARE able to get
>> into the system (in safe mode?)
>>
>> In that case you might try the following.
>> get a 30-day trail copy of Hyena (http://www.systemtools.com/hyena/)
>> That will list (among others) your users and you will be able to make your
>> original account 'Administrator' a member of the group 'Administrators' and
>> possibly assign a new password.
>> I've seen the behaviour in XP Home that when accounts are made 'Limited',
>> they vanish from the Welcome screen.
>> They stay on the system, but have become unusable.
>> 'Limited' translates to the group 'Power Users', but that group does not
>> exist in Home Ed, thus leaving the accounts member of a group the OS does
>> not understand.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> george
>>
>>
>>
>> > I want to either use the admin account
>> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in
>> > user
>> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
>> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account.
>> > Hope
>> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
>> >
>> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Administrator account is still there.
>> >>
>> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the
>> >> Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
>> >>
>> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via
>> >> Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The
>> >> built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once
>> >> you're in Safe Mode.
>> >>
>> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen,
>> >> visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section.
>> >> Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same
>> >> restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
>> >> Display\Security
>> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> >> http://www.dougknox.com
>> >> --------------------------------
>> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> >> --------------------------------
>> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>> >>
>> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative
>> >> >account
>> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
>> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I
>> >> > look at
>> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others,
>> >> > but
>> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
>> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back.
>> >> > The
>> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-10-2005, 02:44 AM
For CTRL-ALT-DEL to work at the Welcome Screen, no user can be logged on. So if you're logged on to a limited User account, log off.

>> >I am running xp pro, and when I type administrator and then either try to
>> > enter a password or leave it blank, it says it cannot be done?

This part of your post indicates that the operating system is telling you something (error message or similar) when you try this.

What you may need to do is use a Linux based utility to reset (or eliminate) the password on the administrator level account that you can't get into.

http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/editor.html

The above link is for a site that has the tools, and instructions on how to do this.

--
Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
http://www.dougknox.com
--------------------------------
Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
--------------------------------
Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

"dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:33031EBE-1367-4D56-A883-506803E96544@microsoft.com...
>I did not mean to say that it said it cannot be done. It just does not work.
> I tried 3 or 4 ways to correct this problem, and so far none work. If I go
> to the welcome screen and c/a/del twice, nothing happens. If I go into safe
> mode and try and change it, it does not change it. I am really getting
> desperate. I need to get my administrative status back. I cannot make any
> changes to my system, I cannot download or anything. I hope this clarifies
> what problems I am having. Thanks Rhonda
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>
>> What do you mean "cannot be done"? Please provide the exact text of the messsage.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> http://www.dougknox.com
>> --------------------------------
>> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> --------------------------------
>> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>>
>> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:84E9EE2F-F569-4AD2-8EA9-1AC6529A32F7@microsoft.com...
>> >I am running xp pro, and when I type administrator and then either try to
>> > enter a password or leave it blank, it says it cannot be done? I really need
>> > help with this. I have not been able to do anything with my computer since
>> > this happened last week. When I hit control/alt/del twice, it does not bring
>> > up the 2000 welcome window. I did not have 2000 previously. Can I do
>> > anything from the user list? thanks for any help you can give. rhonda
>> >
>> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rhonda,
>> >>
>> >> You don't say if you're running XP Pro or XP Home. The first method, CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen works for XP Pro, not Home. Enter Administrator and try leaving the password blank/empty.
>> >>
>> >> For XP Home: Once you're in Safe Mode, you don't need the CTRL-ALT-DEL method. The built in Administrator account will show up on the Welcome Screen. Of course, this assumes that you have the Welcome Screen enabled.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> >> http://www.dougknox.com
>> >> --------------------------------
>> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> >> --------------------------------
>> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>> >>
>> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C23C0A8E-A436-4AFE-8658-019C5EED60C3@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi Doug!
>> >> > I tried both ways you showed me to reinstate my administrative account, but
>> >> > on the first one, it made me put in a password, which I do not know. So it
>> >> > would not add me back as administrator. None of our other passwords would
>> >> > work either. The second way did not work because every time I went into safe
>> >> > mode, and I did ctr/alt/del the other welcome window would not come up. Is
>> >> > there another way? To make it more clear what happened, I was administrator.
>> >> > I then set up another administrative account, and I do not know why I did
>> >> > this, I guess I was experimenting, and I set my major admin account as
>> >> > limited, and made the new one the admin account, which I do not know the
>> >> > password for. When I look at the list of users, all of the accounts are
>> >> > there, but I cannot use any of them. I want to either use the admin account
>> >> > I first set up, or use the other one, but neither of them are listed in user
>> >> > account. My son's name and password does not work either, and he is not
>> >> > listed on the user account page either. Neither is my guest account. Hope
>> >> > you can help. Thanks, Rhonda
>> >> >
>> >> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The Administrator account is still there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For XP Pro: With no users logged on, press CTRL-ALT-DEL twice at the Welcome Screen. You'll get the old Win2K style logon dialog.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For XP Home: The built-in Administrator account can only be accessed via Safe Mode, at this point. See Help and Support for "Safe Mode". The built-in Administrator account will appear on the Welcome Screen once you're in Safe Mode.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To enable the Administrator account on the new Windows XP logon screen, visit my web site, www.dougknox.com and go to the Windows XP section. Follow the link for Enable Administrator Account ...... The same restrictions still apply for XP Home (only accessible via Safe Mode).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
>> >> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> >> >> http://www.dougknox.com
>> >> >> --------------------------------
>> >> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
>> >> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
>> >> >> --------------------------------
>> >> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
>> >> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "dbzrocks" <dbzrocks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D3347098-012F-4E6D-9E2E-108D00426258@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I was administrator on my computer. I added another administrative account
>> >> >> > and made my first one limited, but now none of my or my son's accounts
>> >> >> > appear, and there is no administrative account on my computer. If I look at
>> >> >> > the list of users, it shows my administrative account and many others, but
>> >> >> > they are not accessible. I cannot use my computer as there is no
>> >> >> > administrator. How do I get my original administrative account back. The
>> >> >> > help I was already given did not work. Thank you Rhonda
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>


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