e-Machine stuck in continual loop



nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:40 AM
I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP Home Edition.
So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried to boot to
Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and over. I have
tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode of any kind,
nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good configuration.
I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able to pull off
some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the restore CDs
that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my HDD at least
until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions for doing
this???? Thanks!
--
nlee788

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
07-10-2005, 01:40 AM
Install the hard drive as a slave in another computer and then copy
everything you want.
You may need to Take ownership if NTFS file system was used:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

Contact eMachines for other possible options.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"nlee788" <nlee788@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C788218E-C2CA-41C3-A079-8AFC78A0EC36@microsoft.com...
>I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP Home Edition.
> So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried to boot to
> Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and over. I
> have
> tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode of any
> kind,
> nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good
> configuration.
> I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able to pull off
> some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the restore CDs
> that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my HDD at least
> until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions for doing
> this???? Thanks!
> --
> nlee788

ultra_classic
07-10-2005, 01:40 AM
"" wrote:
> I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP
> Home Edition.
> So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried
> to boot to
> Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and
> over. I have
> tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode
> of any kind,
> nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good
> configuration.
> I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able
> to pull off
> some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the
> restore CDs
> that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my
> HDD at least
> until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions
> for doing
> this???? Thanks!
> --
> nlee788

Greetings nlee,
You could have a hardware issue here or possibly a bad virus. Has your
computer been upgraded since you have owned it :?: Have you changed
any hardware or software lately :?: Out of the box, your machine
only had 128mb of DDR Ram installed :!: and had a power supply of
250watts :!: In my opinion 128mb RAM is not enough to effectively run
WIN XP. I believe 256mb is bare minimum.

I am wondering if you could have a memory issue here. If the memory
chip has gone south you will not be able to start Windows XP. The
Power Supply could also be a source of your present difficulty as
eMachines power supplies were marginal at best.

I would first pull the memory stick and get it tested at the local
guru. He can check your power supply also if you don’t own a digital
meter.
Best regards,
ultra_classic

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Chelsea
07-10-2005, 01:40 AM
Hello
This could be caused by a number of things. A virus is a possibility, but if
I were you I'd reset the MBR (Master Boot Record). This can be done from the
recovery console and also in other ways. First though do you know how to
access the recovery console?

Chelsea

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
I do have another pc I can try this with, but the OS is Win ME. Would that
create any conflicts?
--
nlee788


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> Install the hard drive as a slave in another computer and then copy
> everything you want.
> You may need to Take ownership if NTFS file system was used:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421
>
> Contact eMachines for other possible options.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "nlee788" <nlee788@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C788218E-C2CA-41C3-A079-8AFC78A0EC36@microsoft.com...
> >I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP Home Edition.
> > So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried to boot to
> > Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and over. I
> > have
> > tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode of any
> > kind,
> > nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good
> > configuration.
> > I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able to pull off
> > some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the restore CDs
> > that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my HDD at least
> > until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions for doing
> > this???? Thanks!
> > --
> > nlee788
>
>
>

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
I have thought that it might be a virus because of the way it is acting. I
only have Norton 2005 Anti-Virus. I used the CD to try to scan the HDD and
it did not find anything, but that is not conclusive I know. I just can't
get into safe mode, and I can get an A prompt but no C prompt. Very
frustrating.

I am going to try each oh the suggestions posted until if aor when something
works.

Thank you!
--
nlee788


"ultra_classic" wrote:

> "" wrote:
> > I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP
> > Home Edition.
> > So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried
> > to boot to
> > Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and
> > over. I have
> > tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode
> > of any kind,
> > nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good
> > configuration.
> > I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able
> > to pull off
> > some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the
> > restore CDs
> > that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my
> > HDD at least
> > until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions
> > for doing
> > this???? Thanks!
> > --
> > nlee788
>
> Greetings nlee,
> You could have a hardware issue here or possibly a bad virus. Has your
> computer been upgraded since you have owned it :?: Have you changed
> any hardware or software lately :?: Out of the box, your machine
> only had 128mb of DDR Ram installed :!: and had a power supply of
> 250watts :!: In my opinion 128mb RAM is not enough to effectively run
> WIN XP. I believe 256mb is bare minimum.
>
> I am wondering if you could have a memory issue here. If the memory
> chip has gone south you will not be able to start Windows XP. The
> Power Supply could also be a source of your present difficulty as
> eMachines power supplies were marginal at best.
>
> I would first pull the memory stick and get it tested at the local
> guru. He can check your power supply also if you don’t own a digital
> meter.
> Best regards,
> ultra_classic
>
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nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
No I do not know how I can reach the recovery console. I have tried every
selection on the screen and tried to access safe mode and it just continues
to loop...restarting and shutting down over and over. I will try any
suggestions. Thanks!
--
nlee788


"Chelsea" wrote:

> Hello
> This could be caused by a number of things. A virus is a possibility, but if
> I were you I'd reset the MBR (Master Boot Record). This can be done from the
> recovery console and also in other ways. First though do you know how to
> access the recovery console?
>
> Chelsea
>
>
>

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
ultra_Classic,

Sorry I did not answer the question as to recent hardware or software
upgrade. No I have not upgraded at all in the two years I have had it. I
was actually looking for memory last week. But I have not even cracked the
case open. Thank you.
--
nlee788


"ultra_classic" wrote:

> "" wrote:
> > I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP
> > Home Edition.
> > So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried
> > to boot to
> > Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and
> > over. I have
> > tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode
> > of any kind,
> > nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good
> > configuration.
> > I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able
> > to pull off
> > some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the
> > restore CDs
> > that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my
> > HDD at least
> > until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions
> > for doing
> > this???? Thanks!
> > --
> > nlee788
>
> Greetings nlee,
> You could have a hardware issue here or possibly a bad virus. Has your
> computer been upgraded since you have owned it :?: Have you changed
> any hardware or software lately :?: Out of the box, your machine
> only had 128mb of DDR Ram installed :!: and had a power supply of
> 250watts :!: In my opinion 128mb RAM is not enough to effectively run
> WIN XP. I believe 256mb is bare minimum.
>
> I am wondering if you could have a memory issue here. If the memory
> chip has gone south you will not be able to start Windows XP. The
> Power Supply could also be a source of your present difficulty as
> eMachines power supplies were marginal at best.
>
> I would first pull the memory stick and get it tested at the local
> guru. He can check your power supply also if you don’t own a digital
> meter.
> Best regards,
> ultra_classic
>
> --
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Chelsea
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
Hiya
As you don't have a Windows XP CD you will only have one way of accessing
the recovery console and that is by using boot disks. Microsoft recognise
that computer builders do not always provide an installation CD and so make
available a set of 3.5 inch diskettes that allow you to get into Windows XP.
This is useless if you don't have a floppy drive and a working PC to make
the boot disks with, but I'll assume you do. You can download a utility for
making the boot disks here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?freetext=xp+boot+disk&productID=&DisplayLang=en
It is very important to choose the right one. So select the utility for
Windows XP Home that corresponds to the service pack you have loaded on your
PC. Once you have created your boot disks-I think there may be five in
all-Boot your PC with Disk 1 in the A: drive. If your Bios is set to boot
first from the hard disk you will have to change the boot order so that the
A: drive boots first. Eventually you will get to a screen that asks if you
want to install Windows XP or do a repair using the recovery console. Select
to repair using the recovery console. The recovery console will load and you
must enter the administrator's password before it will let you do anything.
If you don't know the administrator's password leave that field empty and
hope that it wasn't set by the system builder. Once that is done you need to
reset the MBR. You can find out how to do that here
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldau.asp

and that hopefully will get Windows XP running once more, if not we'll need
to rethink. Best of luck!

Chelsea

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
Hi,
I can access the website at work and download the utility to the floppies,
or I am sure I can use my daughter's pc to do it. I don't think there is an
administrator's passwork, I hope not. I will give this a shot. Thank you
all for your help and suggestions! I will be back to let you know what
happens.
--
nlee788


"Chelsea" wrote:

> Hiya
> As you don't have a Windows XP CD you will only have one way of accessing
> the recovery console and that is by using boot disks. Microsoft recognise
> that computer builders do not always provide an installation CD and so make
> available a set of 3.5 inch diskettes that allow you to get into Windows XP.
> This is useless if you don't have a floppy drive and a working PC to make
> the boot disks with, but I'll assume you do. You can download a utility for
> making the boot disks here
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?freetext=xp+boot+disk&productID=&DisplayLang=en
> It is very important to choose the right one. So select the utility for
> Windows XP Home that corresponds to the service pack you have loaded on your
> PC. Once you have created your boot disks-I think there may be five in
> all-Boot your PC with Disk 1 in the A: drive. If your Bios is set to boot
> first from the hard disk you will have to change the boot order so that the
> A: drive boots first. Eventually you will get to a screen that asks if you
> want to install Windows XP or do a repair using the recovery console. Select
> to repair using the recovery console. The recovery console will load and you
> must enter the administrator's password before it will let you do anything.
> If you don't know the administrator's password leave that field empty and
> hope that it wasn't set by the system builder. Once that is done you need to
> reset the MBR. You can find out how to do that here
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldau.asp
>
> and that hopefully will get Windows XP running once more, if not we'll need
> to rethink. Best of luck!
>
> Chelsea
>
>
>

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
Hi,

Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I went to the site you linked to
download the utility and inserted the first disk. I was not prompted to
insert any other disks to continue the download to multiple disks. I
received a message that the disk capacity is too small, insert a disk with a
larger capacity. Operator error??

Thanks!
--
nlee788


"Chelsea" wrote:

> Hiya
> As you don't have a Windows XP CD you will only have one way of accessing
> the recovery console and that is by using boot disks. Microsoft recognise
> that computer builders do not always provide an installation CD and so make
> available a set of 3.5 inch diskettes that allow you to get into Windows XP.
> This is useless if you don't have a floppy drive and a working PC to make
> the boot disks with, but I'll assume you do. You can download a utility for
> making the boot disks here
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?freetext=xp+boot+disk&productID=&DisplayLang=en
> It is very important to choose the right one. So select the utility for
> Windows XP Home that corresponds to the service pack you have loaded on your
> PC. Once you have created your boot disks-I think there may be five in
> all-Boot your PC with Disk 1 in the A: drive. If your Bios is set to boot
> first from the hard disk you will have to change the boot order so that the
> A: drive boots first. Eventually you will get to a screen that asks if you
> want to install Windows XP or do a repair using the recovery console. Select
> to repair using the recovery console. The recovery console will load and you
> must enter the administrator's password before it will let you do anything.
> If you don't know the administrator's password leave that field empty and
> hope that it wasn't set by the system builder. Once that is done you need to
> reset the MBR. You can find out how to do that here
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldau.asp
>
> and that hopefully will get Windows XP running once more, if not we'll need
> to rethink. Best of luck!
>
> Chelsea
>
>
>

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
Sort of, you are making a common error.
Do not download to floppy.
Instead download somewhere you can locate on the hard drive.
Then double click the icon and follow the prompts.
You will be prompted when to insert each floppy.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"nlee788" <nlee788@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1AB206A-4CB2-4423-B645-A51D99A1819F@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I went to the site you linked to
> download the utility and inserted the first disk. I was not prompted to
> insert any other disks to continue the download to multiple disks. I
> received a message that the disk capacity is too small, insert a disk with
> a
> larger capacity. Operator error??
>
> Thanks!
> --
> nlee788

Jupiter Jones [MVP]
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
That will work as long as file system is FAT 32.
If you are using NTFS, it will not work.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"nlee788" <nlee788@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DD3B205B-5982-4229-93D8-D7CC2CAF66BE@microsoft.com...
>I do have another pc I can try this with, but the OS is Win ME. Would that
> create any conflicts?
> --
> nlee788
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Install the hard drive as a slave in another computer and then copy
>> everything you want.
>> You may need to Take ownership if NTFS file system was used:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421
>>
>> Contact eMachines for other possible options.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "nlee788" <nlee788@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C788218E-C2CA-41C3-A079-8AFC78A0EC36@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a T-2042 eMachine that was pre-loaded with Windows XP Home
>> >Edition.
>> > So I do not have a Windows XP installation CD. I have tried to boot to
>> > Windows XP, but it just continually loops restarting over and over. I
>> > have
>> > tried to go into safe mode and it won't let me enter safe mode of any
>> > kind,
>> > nor will it allow me to enter windows using the last know good
>> > configuration.
>> > I am trying to find a way to gain access somehow to be able to pull
>> > off
>> > some recent docs that were not backed up yet. I only have the restore
>> > CDs
>> > that came with the pc, and I am trying to avoid wiping out my HDD at
>> > least
>> > until I can get the docs. Does anyone have any suggestions for doing
>> > this???? Thanks!
>> > --
>> > nlee788
>>
>>
>>

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
Thanks! I won't be able to do that until I can get to another computer. I
hope once I get the disks it will do the trick. I Really appreciate all the
help!
--
nlee788


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> Sort of, you are making a common error.
> Do not download to floppy.
> Instead download somewhere you can locate on the hard drive.
> Then double click the icon and follow the prompts.
> You will be prompted when to insert each floppy.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "nlee788" <nlee788@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1AB206A-4CB2-4423-B645-A51D99A1819F@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I went to the site you linked to
> > download the utility and inserted the first disk. I was not prompted to
> > insert any other disks to continue the download to multiple disks. I
> > received a message that the disk capacity is too small, insert a disk with
> > a
> > larger capacity. Operator error??
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --
> > nlee788
>
>
>

ultra_classic
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
"nlee788" wrote:
>ultra_Classic,
>
>Sorry I did not answer the question as to recent hardware or software

>upgrade. No I have not upgraded at all in the two years I have had
>it. I
>was actually looking for memory last week. But I have not even
>cracked the case open. Thank you.
Greetings nlee788,
Glad you are hanging in there. Just a thought .... you have Norton AV
2005. Good.... did you make an Emergency Boot disk as they suggested
when you installed Norton? Better yet did they give one? I am not
familiar with Norton but can their CD be used as an Emergency Boot
Disk in case of a virus attack?
Open your side cover and check the inside for DUST! Believe it or not
but damp dust can stop you cold. Blow out under, around, and on the
motherboard, also check and clean the fan/heatsink on the CPU. Check
the fan on the power supply and clean it too.

If nothing suggested helps, consider a virus :roll:

Here is a spec sheet and list of memory and upgrade parts for your
machine.
http://www.pcfactoryoutlet.com/default.asp?source=&customerID=20057611250-65.1.21.201&storeID=4
Use drop down menus on left and select Mfg. and then the Model
Also here is a site that us eMachiners use...register and have a look.
http://s2.invisionfree.com/emachineupgraders/index.php?

You have gotten a lot of solid suggestions on this forum from
everyone. I hope that one works out for you. Post back to this thread
and let us know how you are doing. Your post with a solution may help
someone else.
Best of luck,
ultra_classic :)

nlee788
07-10-2005, 01:41 AM
Hi ultra_Classic,

Thanks, I will be able to try all these suggestions tomorrow. I really do
appreciate all the good suggestions and help, I hope one of them works too!
I really do not want to wipe out my HDD until I have tried all I can to get
in there and get the docs I am after. That's going to have to be the last
resort....I am a bit stubborn when I am trying to find a solution to a
problem. Also, thanks for the link to the spec sheet. I will certainly post
back to everyone and let you know what happens. This is a great place to
find solutions!

I did have an emergency Norton disk, but I have not been able to find it
since a recent move. I do have a Norton CD which I tried to boot from and it
ran a scan and did not detect anything, but I still could not reach the C
prompt with it. I get an "invalid drive specification" message. I have
checked the BIOS and the HDD is recognised, so I am hoping that is a good
sign. I also went in and displayed the partition information...looked okay
there.

If I could just get to the C prompt I was going to try to find the dir my
docs are in and try to copy them to disk that way. Then just FDISK, reformat
the HDD and reload from the restore cds that came with the pc, and run a
virus scan.

Someone on this discussion also suggested I use another HDD to jump to the
existing HDD by attaching it as a master and setting the existing as a slave.
The other HDD I would be able to get a hold of and use does not have Win XP
OS on it, it has Win ME. Can you tell me if that would that create a
software conflict if I tried that? I do know that the existing drive is NTFS.
As to your virus roll suggestion, sorry not that knowledgable....how would I
do that? Thanks again!
--
nlee788


"ultra_classic" wrote:

> "nlee788" wrote:
> >ultra_Classic,
> >
> >Sorry I did not answer the question as to recent hardware or software
>
> >upgrade. No I have not upgraded at all in the two years I have had
> >it. I
> >was actually looking for memory last week. But I have not even
> >cracked the case open. Thank you.
> Greetings nlee788,
> Glad you are hanging in there. Just a thought .... you have Norton AV
> 2005. Good.... did you make an Emergency Boot disk as they suggested
> when you installed Norton? Better yet did they give one? I am not
> familiar with Norton but can their CD be used as an Emergency Boot
> Disk in case of a virus attack?
> Open your side cover and check the inside for DUST! Believe it or not
> but damp dust can stop you cold. Blow out under, around, and on the
> motherboard, also check and clean the fan/heatsink on the CPU. Check
> the fan on the power supply and clean it too.
>
> If nothing suggested helps, consider a virus :roll:
>
> Here is a spec sheet and list of memory and upgrade parts for your
> machine.
> http://www.pcfactoryoutlet.com/default.asp?source=&customerID=20057611250-65.1.21.201&storeID=4
> Use drop down menus on left and select Mfg. and then the Model
> Also here is a site that us eMachiners use...register and have a look.
> http://s2.invisionfree.com/emachineupgraders/index.php?
>
> You have gotten a lot of solid suggestions on this forum from
> everyone. I hope that one works out for you. Post back to this thread
> and let us know how you are doing. Your post with a solution may help
> someone else.
> Best of luck,
> ultra_classic :)
>

ultra_classic
07-10-2005, 01:42 AM
"nlee788" wrote:
>Hi ultra_Classic,
>
>Thanks, I will be able to try all these suggestions tomorrow. I
>really do
>appreciate all the good suggestions and help, I hope one of them
works
>too!
>I really do not want to wipe out my HDD until I have tried all I can
>to get
>in there and get the docs I am after. That’s going to have to
>be the last
>resort....I am a bit stubborn when I am trying to find a solution to
a
>
>problem. Also, thanks for the link to the spec sheet. I will
>certainly post
>back to everyone and let you know what happens. This is a great
place
>to find solutions!
>
>I did have an emergency Norton disk, but I have not been able to find
>it
>since a recent move. I do have a Norton CD which I tried to boot
from
>and it ran a scan and did not detect anything, but I still could not
>reach the C prompt with it. I get an "invalid drive specification"

>message. I have checked the BIOS and the HDD is recognised, so I am
>hoping that is a good sign. I also went in and displayed the
>partition information...looked okay
>there.
>
>If I could just get to the C prompt I was going to try to find the
dir
>my
>docs are in and try to copy them to disk that way. Then just FDISK,
>reformat
>the HDD and reload from the restore cds that came with the pc, and
run
>a
>virus scan.
>
>Someone on this discussion also suggested I use another HDD to jump
to
>the
>existing HDD by attaching it as a master and setting the existing as
a
>slave.
> The other HDD I would be able to get a hold of and use does not have
>Win XP
>OS on it, it has Win ME. Can you tell me if that would that create a

>software conflict if I tried that? I do know that the existing drive
>is NTFS.
> As to your virus roll suggestion, sorry not that knowledgable....how
>would I
>do that? Thanks again!
Greetings nlee,
The more you post the more your situation points to a hardware issue.
If you blow all the dust out, clean the fans/heatsink etc. and it’s
still a no go, I would again suggest pulling out the Memory stick and
getting it tested, along with the voltages on the power supply prior
to wiping the drive. At this point you have nothing to lose.
I believe what Jupiter was referring to was taking the HD from the
computer with the problem and going to another working computer
(should have WIN XP) and attaching it as a ’slave’ so it could be
accessed and your files copied. I believe your current drive uses NTFS
(New Technology File System) because of the WIN XP. I’m not sure if
the WIN ME uses the NTFS file system or the FAT32 (File Allocation
Table 32) like WIN98SE. This would create a problem for you. Hopefully
both drives are formatted using the same file system.
Remember that NTFS can read a FAT32 slave drive but not the other way
around.

Please let us know how you make out.
Best of luck,
ultra_classic :)

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kyle
07-10-2005, 01:42 AM
Hello there. I've encountered the same problem. My XP Home Edition
with SP2 is also stuck in an endless loop which started on July 6th. I
tried booting in Safe Mode and all that but have had no luck. I hooked
up an older computer to the internet and searched for a solution,
stumbling upon this forum. I followed the advice below, but I'm
confused about the MBR issue. I used the Setup Boot Disks (It required
six.), and when I got to the screen for the repair I pressed "R". Then
it asked for the administrator's password. I left it blank, but that
was okay. Then I typed "fixmbr" - that was what I was able to gather
from your link below explaining about the MBR. Now the computer is
asking me if I want to write a new MBR. I don't know how to do this.
I'm afriad I'm going to destroy all chances of recovering my computer
if I proceed blindly like this. Please advise me how to proceed.
Should I type "Y" or "N"? If I type "Y", what will be the next step?
Thanks for your advice. Oh, by the way, the link you listed was for XP
Professional. I don't know if that matters, but anyway I couldn't
figure out what I should do next.

- Kyle



Chelsea Wrote:
> Hiya
> As you don't have a Windows XP CD you will only have one way of
> accessing
> the recovery console and that is by using boot disks. Microsoft
> recognise
> that computer builders do not always provide an installation CD and so
> make
> available a set of 3.5 inch diskettes that allow you to get into
> Windows XP.
> This is useless if you don't have a floppy drive and a working PC to
> make
> the boot disks with, but I'll assume you do. You can download a utility
> for
> making the boot disks here
> http://tinyurl.com/7o2bw
> It is very important to choose the right one. So select the utility
> for
> Windows XP Home that corresponds to the service pack you have loaded on
> your
> PC. Once you have created your boot disks-I think there may be five in
> all-Boot your PC with Disk 1 in the A: drive. If your Bios is set to
> boot
> first from the hard disk you will have to change the boot order so that
> the
> A: drive boots first. Eventually you will get to a screen that asks if
> you
> want to install Windows XP or do a repair using the recovery console.
> Select
> to repair using the recovery console. The recovery console will load
> and you
> must enter the administrator's password before it will let you do
> anything.
> If you don't know the administrator's password leave that field empty
> and
> hope that it wasn't set by the system builder. Once that is done you
> need to
> reset the MBR. You can find out how to do that here
> http://tinyurl.com/5tuez
>
> and that hopefully will get Windows XP running once more, if not we'll
> need
> to rethink. Best of luck!
>
> Chelsea


--
kyle

Chelsea
07-10-2005, 01:42 AM
"kyle" <kyle.1rv31n@pcbanter.net> wrote in message
news:kyle.1rv31n@pcbanter.net...
>
> Hello there. I've encountered the same problem. My XP Home Edition
> with SP2 is also stuck in an endless loop which started on July 6th. I
> tried booting in Safe Mode and all that but have had no luck. I hooked
> up an older computer to the internet and searched for a solution,
> stumbling upon this forum. I followed the advice below, but I'm
> confused about the MBR issue. I used the Setup Boot Disks (It required
> six.), and when I got to the screen for the repair I pressed "R". Then
> it asked for the administrator's password. I left it blank, but that
> was okay. Then I typed "fixmbr" - that was what I was able to gather
> from your link below explaining about the MBR. Now the computer is
> asking me if I want to write a new MBR. I don't know how to do this.
> I'm afriad I'm going to destroy all chances of recovering my computer
> if I proceed blindly like this. Please advise me how to proceed.
> Should I type "Y" or "N"? If I type "Y", what will be the next step?
> Thanks for your advice. Oh, by the way, the link you listed was for XP
> Professional. I don't know if that matters, but anyway I couldn't
> figure out what I should do next.
>
> - Kyle
>
>
>
Hi Kyle never thought about that statement being misleading ie asking if
I want to write a new MBR. Don't worry you don't write the MBR the operating
system does that for you.

Chelsea

kyle
07-10-2005, 01:43 AM
I typed Y to write a new MBR. Suddenly I got a blue screen with a
message "A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to
prevent damage to your computer." Then it listed "Technical
Information:
*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x80882211, 0xF93DEEBC, 0x00000000)".
I restarted the computer, and it went into the endless loop of trying
to boot Windows, failing, and restarting. I restarted with the Boot
Disks again and got to the Recovery Console and went through all the
steps of fixmbr and hit Y again. This time it said that a new Boot
Record was successfully written. I typed "Exit" at the C:\windows\
prompt, and the computer restarted, but unfortunately it went back into
the endless loop again. I tried restarting in Safe Mode, but it still
won't boot up Windows. If you have any other advice, it would be
greatly appreciated. By the way, my computer had up-to-date active
anti-virus software running prior to all the trouble.
-Kyle


Chelsea Wrote:
> "kyle" kyle.1rv31n@pcbanter.net wrote in message
> news:kyle.1rv31n@pcbanter.net...-
>
> Hello there. I've encountered the same problem. My XP Home Edition
> with SP2 is also stuck in an endless loop which started on July 6th.
> I
> tried booting in Safe Mode and all that but have had no luck. I
> hooked
> up an older computer to the internet and searched for a solution,
> stumbling upon this forum. I followed the advice below, but I'm
> confused about the MBR issue. I used the Setup Boot Disks (It
> required
> six.), and when I got to the screen for the repair I pressed "R".
> Then
> it asked for the administrator's password. I left it blank, but that
> was okay. Then I typed "fixmbr" - that was what I was able to gather
> from your link below explaining about the MBR. Now the computer is
> asking me if I want to write a new MBR. I don't know how to do this.
> I'm afriad I'm going to destroy all chances of recovering my computer
> if I proceed blindly like this. Please advise me how to proceed.
> Should I type "Y" or "N"? If I type "Y", what will be the next step?
> Thanks for your advice. Oh, by the way, the link you listed was for
> XP
> Professional. I don't know if that matters, but anyway I couldn't
> figure out what I should do next.
>
> - Kyle
>
>
> -
> Hi Kyle never thought about that statement being misleading ie asking
> if
> I want to write a new MBR. Don't worry you don't write the MBR the
> operating
> system does that for you.
>
> Chelsea


--
kyle

Chelsea
07-10-2005, 01:43 AM
"kyle" <kyle.1rw0dp@pcbanter.net> wrote in message
news:kyle.1rw0dp@pcbanter.net...
>
> I typed Y to write a new MBR. Suddenly I got a blue screen with a
> message "A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to
> prevent damage to your computer." Then it listed "Technical
> Information:
> *** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x80882211, 0xF93DEEBC, 0x00000000)".
> I restarted the computer, and it went into the endless loop of trying
> to boot Windows, failing, and restarting. I restarted with the Boot
> Disks again and got to the Recovery Console and went through all the
> steps of fixmbr and hit Y again. This time it said that a new Boot
> Record was successfully written. I typed "Exit" at the C:\windows\
> prompt, and the computer restarted, but unfortunately it went back into
> the endless loop again. I tried restarting in Safe Mode, but it still
> won't boot up Windows. If you have any other advice, it would be
> greatly appreciated. By the way, my computer had up-to-date active
> anti-virus software running prior to all the trouble.
> -Kyle
>
>

Hi Kyle,
Sorry to hear it didn't work. I need you to run a little experiment for me.
If this allows you to get into Windows XP it is not fixed, but we will get a
good indication of what is wrong.

I want you to slightly modify Disk 6 of the recovery console boot disks
On a working PC open notepad and type dcpromo then save the text file as
dcpromo.log onto Disk 6, which will need to be in your diskette drive

On the machine that will not start properly use the recovery disks to enter
the recovery console as before.
In the Recovery Console type the following at the prompt

copy a:\dcpromo.log c:\windows\debug
attrib +R c:\windows\debug\dcpromo.log

There will not be acknowledgement that anything much has happened, but you
should just be returned to the prompt without any error message. Now exit
the recovery console and reboot Windows from the hard disk. Tell me if that
allows you to get into Windows. If it does remember this is not fixed!!!!

Chelsea











You cannot start in Safe Mode is that correct?

kyle
07-10-2005, 10:35 AM
I copied the dcpromo.log onto Disk 6 as you advised. I booted up with
the disks and got to the Recovery Console. I typed the commands as you
advised. Unfortunately, the computer said it couldn't find the file. I
double-checked the disk using the other computer. The file dcpromo.log
definitely exists. I exited, and as before my computer went into its
loop. And it won't boot up Windows in Safe Mode, either. Oh well. . .
. Looking forward to your reply.
Kyle


Chelsea Wrote:
> "kyle" kyle.1rw0dp@pcbanter.net wrote in message
> news:kyle.1rw0dp@pcbanter.net...-
>
> I typed Y to write a new MBR. Suddenly I got a blue screen with a
> message "A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down
> to
> prevent damage to your computer." Then it listed "Technical
> Information:
> *** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x80882211, 0xF93DEEBC,
> 0x00000000)".
> I restarted the computer, and it went into the endless loop of trying
> to boot Windows, failing, and restarting. I restarted with the Boot
> Disks again and got to the Recovery Console and went through all the
> steps of fixmbr and hit Y again. This time it said that a new Boot
> Record was successfully written. I typed "Exit" at the C:\windows\
> prompt, and the computer restarted, but unfortunately it went back
> into
> the endless loop again. I tried restarting in Safe Mode, but it
> still
> won't boot up Windows. If you have any other advice, it would be
> greatly appreciated. By the way, my computer had up-to-date active
> anti-virus software running prior to all the trouble.
> -Kyle
>
> -
>
> Hi Kyle,
> Sorry to hear it didn't work. I need you to run a little experiment for
> me.
> If this allows you to get into Windows XP it is not fixed, but we will
> get a
> good indication of what is wrong.
>
> I want you to slightly modify Disk 6 of the recovery console boot
> disks
> On a working PC open notepad and type dcpromo then save the text file
> as
> dcpromo.log onto Disk 6, which will need to be in your diskette drive
>
> On the machine that will not start properly use the recovery disks to
> enter
> the recovery console as before.
> In the Recovery Console type the following at the prompt
>
> copy a:\dcpromo.log c:\windows\debug
> attrib +R c:\windows\debug\dcpromo.log
>
> There will not be acknowledgement that anything much has happened, but
> you
> should just be returned to the prompt without any error message. Now
> exit
> the recovery console and reboot Windows from the hard disk. Tell me if
> that
> allows you to get into Windows. If it does remember this is not
> fixed!!!!
>
> Chelsea
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You cannot start in Safe Mode is that correct?


--
kyle


e-Machine stuck in continual loop