Big Fix



PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:33 AM
I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is Big
Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.

Byte
07-10-2005, 01:33 AM
Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google search
for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:

BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY MANAGEMENT -
http://www.bigfix.com/
--
Some days you're the windshield,
some days you're the bug.


"PattiChati" wrote:

> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is Big
> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>
>
>

07-10-2005, 01:33 AM
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:04:01 -0700, "Byte"
<Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google search
>for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:
>
>BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY MANAGEMENT -
>http://www.bigfix.com/

My thoughts exactly. The very large number of posts in this NG means
that many worthy questions go unanswered because "some" Users fail 101
Self-Help.

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:33 AM
HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND STOP
TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
"Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google
> search
> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:
>
> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
> MANAGEMENT -
> http://www.bigfix.com/
> --
> Some days you're the windshield,
> some days you're the bug.
>
>
> "PattiChati" wrote:
>
>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is Big
>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
WHAT IS WITH EVERYONE TODAY - HAVE NAILS FOR BREAKFAST.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I HAVE READ ABOUT BIGFIX, JUST WANTED PERSONAL
OPINIONS IF IT WAS A GOOD PRODUCT.
GET A HANDLE ON YOUR ANGER MANAGEMENT AND ENJOY LIFE FOR A CHANGE.
KEEP YOUR NASTY OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.
"<----- Which Way ----->" <traxless@msn.com> wrote in message
news:nmj0c1lijakpapb6tm14e93i1bup4e6iil@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:04:01 -0700, "Byte"
> <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google
>>search
>>for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:
>>
>>BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>MANAGEMENT -
>>http://www.bigfix.com/
>
> My thoughts exactly. The very large number of posts in this NG means
> that many worthy questions go unanswered because "some" Users fail 101
> Self-Help.

Star Fleet Admiral Q
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base, we
figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second half of
your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by making an
educated decision once you knew what is was.
Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101 applies, and
you were guilty of not providing the information.
So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even mentioned
posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and INSULTING as it is
considered YELLING.
Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a volunteer
basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do you?), and didn't
see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR UGLY RESPONSES.


--

Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!

http://www.google.com
Google is your "Friend"

"PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND STOP
> TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google
>> search
>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:
>>
>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>> MANAGEMENT -
>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>> --
>> Some days you're the windshield,
>> some days you're the bug.
>>
>>
>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>
>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is
>>> Big
>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Star Fleet Admiral Q
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email address,
such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something to the like, as
all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting email addresses for
"spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest them, but unless human
intervention (educated guessing) is applied, the harvested address becomes
worthless, especially true since these bots havest millions of addresses,
which no spammer is going to physically review each address for obvious
munging.

--

Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!

http://www.google.com
Google is your "Friend"

"Star Fleet Admiral Q" <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base, we
> figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second half of
> your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by making an
> educated decision once you knew what is was.
> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101 applies,
> and you were guilty of not providing the information.
> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and INSULTING
> as it is considered YELLING.
> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a volunteer
> basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do you?), and didn't
> see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR UGLY RESPONSES.
>
>
> --
>
> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>
> http://www.google.com
> Google is your "Friend"
>
> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND STOP
>> TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google
>>> search
>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:
>>>
>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>> --
>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is
>>>> Big
>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
What are you talking about???????????

"Star Fleet Admiral Q" <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something to
> the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting email
> addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest them, but
> unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied, the harvested
> address becomes worthless, especially true since these bots havest
> millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to physically review each
> address for obvious munging.
>
> --
>
> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>
> http://www.google.com
> Google is your "Friend"
>
> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
>> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base, we
>> figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second half of
>> your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by making an
>> educated decision once you knew what is was.
>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101 applies,
>> and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and INSULTING
>> as it is considered YELLING.
>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a volunteer
>> basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do you?), and
>> didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR UGLY
>> RESPONSES.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>
>> http://www.google.com
>> Google is your "Friend"
>>
>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND STOP
>>> TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google
>>>> search
>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's
>>>> one:
>>>>
>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>> --
>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is
>>>>> Big
>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
Just because I posted a question, why the anger and sarcastic replies.
Yeah, I think I know Microsoft doesn't pay you - your insults are not
necessary nor appreciated.
I never asked you to be an "expert", so please read the emails more
carefully. You think my response was ugly, would you care to read the
responses of Byte and yourself. You threw the first stone, so don't get all
bent out of shape if someone throws back. I might not know all about the
internet, but you sure as heck don't intimidate me or prevent me from
posting on newsgroups.
"Star Fleet Admiral Q" <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base, we
> figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second half of
> your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by making an
> educated decision once you knew what is was.
> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101 applies,
> and you were guilty of not providing the information.
> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and INSULTING
> as it is considered YELLING.
> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a volunteer
> basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do you?), and didn't
> see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR UGLY RESPONSES.
>
>
> --
>
> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>
> http://www.google.com
> Google is your "Friend"
>
> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND STOP
>> TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a Google
>>> search
>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's one:
>>>
>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>> --
>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>
>>>
>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is
>>>> Big
>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kerry Brown
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
"PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> What are you talking about???????????
>

You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is PattiChati@hotmail.com.
You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and more is available in the headers of
your post. Spammers harvest email addresses from newsgroups. You will
probably be receiving much more spam at that address shortly. In Outlook
Express under the account settings for the news server don't use your real
email address. use something like Star Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who
takes the time will be able to figure out what it really is if they want to
contact you. Spambots (programs to harvest email addresses) will be fooled.

Kerry


> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something to
>> the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting email
>> addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest them, but
>> unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied, the harvested
>> address becomes worthless, especially true since these bots havest
>> millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to physically review
>> each address for obvious munging.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>
>> http://www.google.com
>> Google is your "Friend"
>>
>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
>>> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base,
>>> we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second
>>> half of your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by
>>> making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
>>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101 applies,
>>> and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
>>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
>>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and INSULTING
>>> as it is considered YELLING.
>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a volunteer
>>> basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do you?), and
>>> didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR UGLY
>>> RESPONSES.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com
>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>
>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND STOP
>>>> TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a
>>>>> Google search
>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's
>>>>> one:
>>>>>
>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>>> --
>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly is
>>>>>> Big
>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
Thanks Kerry for your explanation. I really appreciate it. I went under
accounts and couldn't find where I set up my email address. I didn't
actually set it up to begin with. The guy who set up my computer at
Christmas did it, so I am not familiar with the addresses. If you have the
time, I would appreciate it if you would explain how to do that. Do I then
get rid of the hotmail account?
"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:ua4fhE5eFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> What are you talking about???????????
>>
>
> You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is
> PattiChati@hotmail.com. You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and more is
> available in the headers of your post. Spammers harvest email addresses
> from newsgroups. You will probably be receiving much more spam at that
> address shortly. In Outlook Express under the account settings for the
> news server don't use your real email address. use something like Star
> Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who takes the time will be able to
> figure out what it really is if they want to contact you. Spambots
> (programs to harvest email addresses) will be fooled.
>
> Kerry
>
>
>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
>>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something to
>>> the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting email
>>> addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest them, but
>>> unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied, the harvested
>>> address becomes worthless, especially true since these bots havest
>>> millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to physically review
>>> each address for obvious munging.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com
>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>
>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
>>>> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base,
>>>> we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second
>>>> half of your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by
>>>> making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
>>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
>>>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101 applies,
>>>> and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
>>>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
>>>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and
>>>> INSULTING as it is considered YELLING.
>>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a
>>>> volunteer basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do
>>>> you?), and didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR
>>>> UGLY RESPONSES.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>
>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND
>>>>> STOP TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a
>>>>>> Google search
>>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's
>>>>>> one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly
>>>>>>> is Big
>>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Ricky
07-10-2005, 01:34 AM
Here's some info that may help..
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm

--
The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if they
foul up there's no law against wacking them around a little.
Joe Martin

"PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23dhBdCFfFHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Thanks Kerry for your explanation. I really appreciate it. I went
under
| accounts and couldn't find where I set up my email address. I
didn't
| actually set it up to begin with. The guy who set up my computer at
| Christmas did it, so I am not familiar with the addresses. If you
have the
| time, I would appreciate it if you would explain how to do that. Do
I then
| get rid of the hotmail account?
| "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
| news:ua4fhE5eFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| >> What are you talking about???????????
| >>
| >
| > You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is
| > PattiChati@hotmail.com. You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and
more is
| > available in the headers of your post. Spammers harvest email
addresses
| > from newsgroups. You will probably be receiving much more spam at
that
| > address shortly. In Outlook Express under the account settings for
the
| > news server don't use your real email address. use something like
Star
| > Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who takes the time will be able
to
| > figure out what it really is if they want to contact you. Spambots
| > (programs to harvest email addresses) will be fooled.
| >
| > Kerry
| >
| >
| >> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
| >> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in
message
| >> news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| >>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true
email
| >>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or
something to
| >>> the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting
email
| >>> addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest
them, but
| >>> unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied, the
harvested
| >>> address becomes worthless, especially true since these bots
havest
| >>> millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to physically
review
| >>> each address for obvious munging.
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>>
| >>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
| >>>
| >>> http://www.google.com
| >>> Google is your "Friend"
| >>>
| >>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
| >>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in
message
| >>> news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| >>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving
us the
| >>>> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as
a base,
| >>>> we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the
second
| >>>> half of your question "and is it something I want to use or
not?" by
| >>>> making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
| >>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal
Balls or
| >>>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101
applies,
| >>>> and you were guilty of not providing the information.
| >>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW
UP and
| >>>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one
even
| >>>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and
| >>>> INSULTING as it is considered YELLING.
| >>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a
| >>>> volunteer basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it
do
| >>>> you?), and didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well,
yes, YOUR
| >>>> UGLY RESPONSES.
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>>
| >>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
| >>>>
| >>>> http://www.google.com
| >>>> Google is your "Friend"
| >>>>
| >>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| >>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| >>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP
AND
| >>>>> STOP TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
| >>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| >>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
| >>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and
do a
| >>>>>> Google search
| >>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses,
here's
| >>>>>> one:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT -
VULNERABILITY
| >>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
| >>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
| >>>>>> --
| >>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
| >>>>>> some days you're the bug.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What
exactly
| >>>>>>> is Big
| >>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

Kerry Brown
07-10-2005, 01:35 AM
"PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23dhBdCFfFHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Kerry for your explanation. I really appreciate it. I went under
> accounts and couldn't find where I set up my email address. I didn't
> actually set it up to begin with. The guy who set up my computer at
> Christmas did it, so I am not familiar with the addresses. If you have
> the time, I would appreciate it if you would explain how to do that. Do I
> then get rid of the hotmail account?

No, you keep the hotmail account if you still want to receive mail there.
You only change it in the account properties for news servers so that the
munged version shows up in the header. In Outlook Express From the Tools
Menu click on Accounts, click on the News tab and highlight the news account
you want to munge, click on the Properties button, In the E-Mail Address box
munge your address.

Kerry


> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:ua4fhE5eFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> What are you talking about???????????
>>>
>>
>> You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is
>> PattiChati@hotmail.com. You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and more is
>> available in the headers of your post. Spammers harvest email addresses
>> from newsgroups. You will probably be receiving much more spam at that
>> address shortly. In Outlook Express under the account settings for the
>> news server don't use your real email address. use something like Star
>> Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who takes the time will be able to
>> figure out what it really is if they want to contact you. Spambots
>> (programs to harvest email addresses) will be fooled.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>>
>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
>>>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something to
>>>> the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting email
>>>> addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest them, but
>>>> unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied, the harvested
>>>> address becomes worthless, especially true since these bots havest
>>>> millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to physically review
>>>> each address for obvious munging.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>
>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us the
>>>>> impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a base,
>>>>> we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the second
>>>>> half of your question "and is it something I want to use or not?" by
>>>>> making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
>>>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
>>>>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101
>>>>> applies, and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>>>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
>>>>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
>>>>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and
>>>>> INSULTING as it is considered YELLING.
>>>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a
>>>>> volunteer basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do
>>>>> you?), and didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR
>>>>> UGLY RESPONSES.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>
>>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND
>>>>>> STOP TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a
>>>>>>> Google search
>>>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's
>>>>>>> one:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly
>>>>>>>> is Big
>>>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:35 AM
You know, I got to thinking, I don't even have a hotwire account. I think
the guy just set it up for outlook express. The only two places I go for
mail is yahoo and aol and neither of them end in hotmail. So would this
still be a problem? Thanks.
"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:ObLGdUGfFHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23dhBdCFfFHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks Kerry for your explanation. I really appreciate it. I went under
>> accounts and couldn't find where I set up my email address. I didn't
>> actually set it up to begin with. The guy who set up my computer at
>> Christmas did it, so I am not familiar with the addresses. If you have
>> the time, I would appreciate it if you would explain how to do that. Do
>> I then get rid of the hotmail account?
>
> No, you keep the hotmail account if you still want to receive mail there.
> You only change it in the account properties for news servers so that the
> munged version shows up in the header. In Outlook Express From the Tools
> Menu click on Accounts, click on the News tab and highlight the news
> account you want to munge, click on the Properties button, In the E-Mail
> Address box munge your address.
>
> Kerry
>
>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:ua4fhE5eFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> What are you talking about???????????
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is
>>> PattiChati@hotmail.com. You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and more is
>>> available in the headers of your post. Spammers harvest email addresses
>>> from newsgroups. You will probably be receiving much more spam at that
>>> address shortly. In Outlook Express under the account settings for the
>>> news server don't use your real email address. use something like Star
>>> Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who takes the time will be able to
>>> figure out what it really is if they want to contact you. Spambots
>>> (programs to harvest email addresses) will be fooled.
>>>
>>> Kerry
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
>>>>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something
>>>>> to the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting
>>>>> email addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest
>>>>> them, but unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied,
>>>>> the harvested address becomes worthless, especially true since these
>>>>> bots havest millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to
>>>>> physically review each address for obvious munging.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>
>>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us
>>>>>> the impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a
>>>>>> base, we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the
>>>>>> second half of your question "and is it something I want to use or
>>>>>> not?" by making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
>>>>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
>>>>>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101
>>>>>> applies, and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>>>>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
>>>>>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
>>>>>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and
>>>>>> INSULTING as it is considered YELLING.
>>>>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a
>>>>>> volunteer basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do
>>>>>> you?), and didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes, YOUR
>>>>>> UGLY RESPONSES.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND
>>>>>>> STOP TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>>>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a
>>>>>>>> Google search
>>>>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses, here's
>>>>>>>> one:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>>>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What exactly
>>>>>>>>> is Big
>>>>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kerry Brown
07-10-2005, 01:35 AM
"PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%233MzMAHfFHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You know, I got to thinking, I don't even have a hotwire account. I think
> the guy just set it up for outlook express. The only two places I go for
> mail is yahoo and aol and neither of them end in hotmail. So would this
> still be a problem? Thanks.

Not a problem for you but it is a problem for Microsoft. Spammers will send
mail to that address. The hotmail servers will waste time trying to resolve
the address. Also because hotmail is so popular that may be someone else's
address. You should always munge the part after the @. It's just good
manners when using news groups.

Kerry

> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:ObLGdUGfFHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23dhBdCFfFHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks Kerry for your explanation. I really appreciate it. I went
>>> under accounts and couldn't find where I set up my email address. I
>>> didn't actually set it up to begin with. The guy who set up my computer
>>> at Christmas did it, so I am not familiar with the addresses. If you
>>> have the time, I would appreciate it if you would explain how to do
>>> that. Do I then get rid of the hotmail account?
>>
>> No, you keep the hotmail account if you still want to receive mail there.
>> You only change it in the account properties for news servers so that the
>> munged version shows up in the header. In Outlook Express From the Tools
>> Menu click on Accounts, click on the News tab and highlight the news
>> account you want to munge, click on the Properties button, In the E-Mail
>> Address box munge your address.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>>
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>> news:ua4fhE5eFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>> What are you talking about???????????
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is
>>>> PattiChati@hotmail.com. You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and more
>>>> is available in the headers of your post. Spammers harvest email
>>>> addresses from newsgroups. You will probably be receiving much more
>>>> spam at that address shortly. In Outlook Express under the account
>>>> settings for the news server don't use your real email address. use
>>>> something like Star Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who takes the
>>>> time will be able to figure out what it really is if they want to
>>>> contact you. Spambots (programs to harvest email addresses) will be
>>>> fooled.
>>>>
>>>> Kerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
>>>>>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something
>>>>>> to the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting
>>>>>> email addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest
>>>>>> them, but unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied,
>>>>>> the harvested address becomes worthless, especially true since these
>>>>>> bots havest millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to
>>>>>> physically review each address for obvious munging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us
>>>>>>> the impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as a
>>>>>>> base, we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer the
>>>>>>> second half of your question "and is it something I want to use or
>>>>>>> not?" by making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
>>>>>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls or
>>>>>>> practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101
>>>>>>> applies, and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>>>>>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP and
>>>>>>> definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one even
>>>>>>> mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and
>>>>>>> INSULTING as it is considered YELLING.
>>>>>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a
>>>>>>> volunteer basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do
>>>>>>> you?), and didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes,
>>>>>>> YOUR UGLY RESPONSES.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND
>>>>>>>> STOP TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>>>>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a
>>>>>>>>> Google search
>>>>>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses,
>>>>>>>>> here's one:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>>>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>>>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>>>>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What
>>>>>>>>>> exactly is Big
>>>>>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

PattiChati
07-10-2005, 01:35 AM
Okay Kerry, I changed my email address according to the link you sent me. I
appreciate your input.
"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:e91a5CLfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%233MzMAHfFHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> You know, I got to thinking, I don't even have a hotwire account. I
>> think the guy just set it up for outlook express. The only two places I
>> go for mail is yahoo and aol and neither of them end in hotmail. So
>> would this still be a problem? Thanks.
>
> Not a problem for you but it is a problem for Microsoft. Spammers will
> send mail to that address. The hotmail servers will waste time trying to
> resolve the address. Also because hotmail is so popular that may be
> someone else's address. You should always munge the part after the @. It's
> just good manners when using news groups.
>
> Kerry
>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:ObLGdUGfFHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23dhBdCFfFHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks Kerry for your explanation. I really appreciate it. I went
>>>> under accounts and couldn't find where I set up my email address. I
>>>> didn't actually set it up to begin with. The guy who set up my
>>>> computer at Christmas did it, so I am not familiar with the addresses.
>>>> If you have the time, I would appreciate it if you would explain how to
>>>> do that. Do I then get rid of the hotmail account?
>>>
>>> No, you keep the hotmail account if you still want to receive mail
>>> there. You only change it in the account properties for news servers so
>>> that the munged version shows up in the header. In Outlook Express From
>>> the Tools Menu click on Accounts, click on the News tab and highlight
>>> the news account you want to munge, click on the Properties button, In
>>> the E-Mail Address box munge your address.
>>>
>>> Kerry
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>>> news:ua4fhE5eFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eXweje4eFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> What are you talking about???????????
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are using Oultook Express. Your email address is
>>>>> PattiChati@hotmail.com. You posted from IP 24.11.69.170 This and more
>>>>> is available in the headers of your post. Spammers harvest email
>>>>> addresses from newsgroups. You will probably be receiving much more
>>>>> spam at that address shortly. In Outlook Express under the account
>>>>> settings for the news server don't use your real email address. use
>>>>> something like Star Fleet Admiral Q suggested. Anyone who takes the
>>>>> time will be able to figure out what it really is if they want to
>>>>> contact you. Spambots (programs to harvest email addresses) will be
>>>>> fooled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:OxYmET3eFHA.1136@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Oh, one last item, you need to learn how to "munge" your true email
>>>>>>> address, such as "PattiChatti(REMOVE_THIS)@hotmail.com" or something
>>>>>>> to the like, as all newsgroups have many automated bots harvesting
>>>>>>> email addresses for "spammers". Munging allows the bots to harvest
>>>>>>> them, but unless human intervention (educated guessing) is applied,
>>>>>>> the harvested address becomes worthless, especially true since these
>>>>>>> bots havest millions of addresses, which no spammer is going to
>>>>>>> physically review each address for obvious munging.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Star Fleet Admiral Q"
>>>>>>> <Star_Fleet_Admiral_Q(NO-SPAM)@(SPAM-NOT)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:OLtw8O3eFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Excuse us, but you did ask "What exactly is Big Fix?" giving us
>>>>>>>> the impression you had no idea what it was. Using this premise as
>>>>>>>> a base, we figured if you knew what it was, then you could answer
>>>>>>>> the second half of your question "and is it something I want to use
>>>>>>>> or not?" by making an educated decision once you knew what is was.
>>>>>>>> Don't blame us for not being ESP experts, having Crystal Balls
>>>>>>>> or practicing Tarot. We can't read minds, so yes, netiquette 101
>>>>>>>> applies, and you were guilty of not providing the information.
>>>>>>>> So who was RUDE, responded IRRATIONALLY, and needs to GROW UP
>>>>>>>> and definitely needs to attend/practice ANGER management. No one
>>>>>>>> even mentioned posting in all CAPS is considered EXTREMELY RUDE and
>>>>>>>> INSULTING as it is considered YELLING.
>>>>>>>> Lastly, we do enjoy life, as we answer these questions on a
>>>>>>>> volunteer basis (you don't think MicroSoft pays people to do it do
>>>>>>>> you?), and didn't see one NASTY opinion in the bunch, well, yes,
>>>>>>>> YOUR UGLY RESPONSES.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your Service!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com
>>>>>>>> Google is your "Friend"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "PattiChati" <PattiChati@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:O1egQS2eFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> HOW RUDE YOU ARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND YOU KNOW. GROW UP AND
>>>>>>>>> STOP TAKING YOUR MISERY OUT ON STRANGERS!!
>>>>>>>>> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:DE5E2A34-E821-48F4-8F9B-0F79ED543510@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Has it every occurred to you to try a little initiative and do a
>>>>>>>>>> Google search
>>>>>>>>>> for the answer? Never mind, I did and found many responses,
>>>>>>>>>> here's one:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BIGFIX, INC. - SECURITY CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT - VULNERABILITY
>>>>>>>>>> MANAGEMENT -
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bigfix.com/
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Some days you're the windshield,
>>>>>>>>>> some days you're the bug.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "PattiChati" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have Big Fix on my Computer and I have Windows XP. What
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly is Big
>>>>>>>>>>> Fix and is it something I want to use or not. Thanks.
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