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Shaun
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I accidentally kept a very,
very important folder highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem
is, my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in there, yet when
I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it always says files are in there. I
have hit "restore items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's nothing in there. I did
not check off "delete files instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there
any possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very important that I
do so.

Michael T
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Line 64 - right column
"Replace/Repair the Recycle Bin in Windows XP"

Also, will doing a System Restore work for you instead?

--
Michael

"Shaun" <Shaun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:514184ED-E794-4B10-A9EF-4298B6CA13EA@microsoft.com...
> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I accidentally kept a
> very,
> very important folder highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem
> is, my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in there, yet
> when
> I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it always says files are in there. I
> have hit "restore items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
> searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's nothing in there. I did
> not check off "delete files instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is
> there
> any possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very important
> that I
> do so.

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
Hi Shaun,

If the folder was in fact deleted this utility should help retrieve
it.
Restoration download and review - file undelete utility from SnapFiles
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


Shaun wrote:
> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I
> accidentally kept a very, very important folder
> highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem is,
> my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in
> there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it
> always says files are in there. I have hit "restore
> items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
> searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's
> nothing in there. I did not check off "delete files
> instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there any
> possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very
> important that I do so.

Shaun
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
hey bert and michael,

Unfortunately, neither solution worked. My recycle bin still says it has
items in it, but when I open it, it says that it is empty. I've clicked
"restore files" several times, and run both programs several times. I ran two
setting restorations, and neither of them took. (I never saved a setting...
is there a way around this?) Is this a unique system glitch or is there still
something I can do? I don't thnk I deleted it, but I can't find it.

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

> Hi Shaun,
>
> If the folder was in fact deleted this utility should help retrieve
> it.
> Restoration download and review - file undelete utility from SnapFiles
> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://dts-l.org/
>
>
> Shaun wrote:
> > well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I
> > accidentally kept a very, very important folder
> > highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem is,
> > my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in
> > there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it
> > always says files are in there. I have hit "restore
> > items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
> > searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's
> > nothing in there. I did not check off "delete files
> > instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there any
> > possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very
> > important that I do so.
>
>
>

Michael T
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
How about deleting it with Windows Explorer?

Right-click the Recycle Bin icon on your desktop and select OPEN.


"Shaun" <Shaun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A971C31-F9A4-4D46-A7B5-CE5BA4956FAA@microsoft.com...
> hey bert and michael,
>
> Unfortunately, neither solution worked. My recycle bin still says it has
> items in it, but when I open it, it says that it is empty. I've clicked
> "restore files" several times, and run both programs several times. I ran
> two
> setting restorations, and neither of them took. (I never saved a
> setting...
> is there a way around this?) Is this a unique system glitch or is there
> still
> something I can do? I don't thnk I deleted it, but I can't find it.
>
> "Bert Kinney" wrote:
>
>> Hi Shaun,
>>
>> If the folder was in fact deleted this utility should help retrieve
>> it.
>> Restoration download and review - file undelete utility from SnapFiles
>> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>>
>> Shaun wrote:
>> > well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I
>> > accidentally kept a very, very important folder
>> > highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem is,
>> > my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in
>> > there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it
>> > always says files are in there. I have hit "restore
>> > items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
>> > searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's
>> > nothing in there. I did not check off "delete files
>> > instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there any
>> > possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very
>> > important that I do so.
>>
>>
>>

Michael T
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
You may want to view this forum.
http://www.wintrouble.net/discus/messages/53/3373.html

"Shaun" <Shaun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:514184ED-E794-4B10-A9EF-4298B6CA13EA@microsoft.com...
> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I accidentally kept a
> very,
> very important folder highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem
> is, my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in there, yet
> when
> I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it always says files are in there. I
> have hit "restore items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
> searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's nothing in there. I did
> not check off "delete files instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is
> there
> any possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very important
> that I
> do so.

Michael T
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
"Michael T" <anonymous@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ezoGrsseFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> How about deleting it with Windows Explorer?
>
> Right-click the Recycle Bin icon on your desktop and select OPEN.
>

Oops! I meant to say "EXPLORE" - not "OPEN">

DL
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
It cannot be v.important, otherwise you would have had a backup

"Shaun" <Shaun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:514184ED-E794-4B10-A9EF-4298B6CA13EA@microsoft.com...
> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I accidentally kept a
very,
> very important folder highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem
> is, my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in there, yet
when
> I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it always says files are in there. I
> have hit "restore items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
> searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's nothing in there. I did
> not check off "delete files instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is
there
> any possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very important
that I
> do so.

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
Hi Shaun,

Are there any Norton crap applications installed?

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Shaun wrote:
> hey bert and michael,
>
> Unfortunately, neither solution worked. My recycle bin
> still says it has items in it, but when I open it, it
> says that it is empty. I've clicked "restore files"
> several times, and run both programs several times. I ran
> two setting restorations, and neither of them took. (I
> never saved a setting... is there a way around this?) Is
> this a unique system glitch or is there still something I
> can do? I don't thnk I deleted it, but I can't find it.
>
> "Bert Kinney" wrote:
>
>> Hi Shaun,
>>
>> If the folder was in fact deleted this utility should
>> help retrieve it.
>> Restoration download and review - file undelete utility
>> from SnapFiles
>> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>>
>> Shaun wrote:
>>> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I
>>> accidentally kept a very, very important folder
>>> highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem is,
>>> my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in
>>> there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it
>>> always says files are in there. I have hit "restore
>>> items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
>>> searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's
>>> nothing in there. I did not check off "delete files
>>> instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there any
>>> possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very
>>> important that I do so.

Miss Perspicacia Tick
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
Michael T wrote:
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>
> Line 64 - right column
> "Replace/Repair the Recycle Bin in Windows XP"
>
> Also, will doing a System Restore work for you instead?

No, it won't. System Restore has absolutely no effect on data. It only
tracks system files.

Miss Perspicacia Tick
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
Shaun wrote:
> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I accidentally kept a
> very, very important folder highlighted, and it was deleted as well.
> The problem is, my recycle bin does not show files that have been put
> in there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it always
> says files are in there. I have hit "restore items" several times but
> it does nothing. I've tried searching my recycle bin, but it says
> that there's nothing in there. I did not check off "delete files
> instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there any possible way I
> can get this folder back? It's very, very important that I do so.

If it was that important, you'd have had a back up. Live and learn.

Michael T
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
"Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
news:tLUve.16$wA1.11@fe07.highwinds-media.phx...
>
> No, it won't. System Restore has absolutely no effect on data. It only
> tracks system files.
>
>

From Microsoft:

"Replaces the current registry with the registry snapshot taken when the
restore point chosen was created. (*note: some current values will persist)"
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/faqsrwxp.mspx

So it seems reasonable that if the poster's problem with the Recycle Bin is
registry-related a System Restore 'might' help. But I agree with your
assumption to a degree - i.e. a System Restore is probably not going to
offer much relief.

NoNoBadDog!
07-10-2005, 02:33 AM
There is current no Norton "crap" in the Symantec lineup.

Making comments like that only serve to make you look like an idiot.

Just because you do not like a certain product does not mean that others
don't use it.

Norton products perform just fine on a properly configured computer.

If you choose not to use them, that is your choice.

You reply has no bearing on the question.

Bobby

"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:OoYTZ0xeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Shaun,
>
> Are there any Norton crap applications installed?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://dts-l.org/
>
> Shaun wrote:
>> hey bert and michael,
>>
>> Unfortunately, neither solution worked. My recycle bin
>> still says it has items in it, but when I open it, it
>> says that it is empty. I've clicked "restore files"
>> several times, and run both programs several times. I ran
>> two setting restorations, and neither of them took. (I
>> never saved a setting... is there a way around this?) Is
>> this a unique system glitch or is there still something I
>> can do? I don't thnk I deleted it, but I can't find it.
>>
>> "Bert Kinney" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Shaun,
>>>
>>> If the folder was in fact deleted this utility should
>>> help retrieve it.
>>> Restoration download and review - file undelete utility
>>> from SnapFiles
>>> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://dts-l.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> Shaun wrote:
>>>> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I
>>>> accidentally kept a very, very important folder
>>>> highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem is,
>>>> my recycle bin does not show files that have been put in
>>>> there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin" button, it
>>>> always says files are in there. I have hit "restore
>>>> items" several times but it does nothing. I've tried
>>>> searching my recycle bin, but it says that there's
>>>> nothing in there. I did not check off "delete files
>>>> instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is there any
>>>> possible way I can get this folder back? It's very, very
>>>> important that I do so.
>
>

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 02:34 AM
You should do a little research before tossing out inaccurate
comments.

I dont know of one college that would recommend a Norton product,
except for maybe Ghost and PCAnywhere.

If a system is configured correctly, it will not be for long, after
installing Norton.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> There is current no Norton "crap" in the Symantec lineup.
>
> Making comments like that only serve to make you look
> like an idiot.
> Just because you do not like a certain product does not
> mean that others don't use it.
>
> Norton products perform just fine on a properly
> configured computer.
> If you choose not to use them, that is your choice.
>
> You reply has no bearing on the question.
>
> Bobby
>
> "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OoYTZ0xeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Shaun,
>>
>> Are there any Norton crap applications installed?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>> Shaun wrote:
>>> hey bert and michael,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, neither solution worked. My recycle bin
>>> still says it has items in it, but when I open it, it
>>> says that it is empty. I've clicked "restore files"
>>> several times, and run both programs several times. I
>>> ran two setting restorations, and neither of them took.
>>> (I never saved a setting... is there a way around
>>> this?) Is this a unique system glitch or is there still
>>> something I can do? I don't thnk I deleted it, but I
>>> can't find it. "Bert Kinney" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Shaun,
>>>>
>>>> If the folder was in fact deleted this utility should
>>>> help retrieve it.
>>>> Restoration download and review - file undelete utility
>>>> from SnapFiles
>>>> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://dts-l.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shaun wrote:
>>>>> well, kind of. when I was deleting a few files, I
>>>>> accidentally kept a very, very important folder
>>>>> highlighted, and it was deleted as well. The problem
>>>>> is, my recycle bin does not show files that have been
>>>>> put in there, yet when I hit the "empty recycle bin"
>>>>> button, it always says files are in there. I have hit
>>>>> "restore items" several times but it does nothing.
>>>>> I've tried searching my recycle bin, but it says that
>>>>> there's nothing in there. I did not check off "delete
>>>>> files instead of sending them to recycle bin." Is
>>>>> there any possible way I can get this folder back?
>>>>> It's very, very important that I do so.

Shenan Stanley
07-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Bert Kinney wrote:
> You should do a little research before tossing out inaccurate
> comments.
>
> I dont know of one college that would recommend a Norton product,
> except for maybe Ghost and PCAnywhere.
>
> If a system is configured correctly, it will not be for long, after
> installing Norton.

I know of several universities that would recommend the Symantec line long
before others for a AD/Domain/Worstation controlled environment - for
student/staff and faculty.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Hi Shenan,

I suspect that would be the corporate version, which I understand is
better than the Personal version.
We have the corporate version at work and still get viruses that slip
through. Either way I am not impressed.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Bert Kinney wrote:
>> You should do a little research before tossing out
>> inaccurate comments.
>>
>> I dont know of one college that would recommend a Norton
>> product, except for maybe Ghost and PCAnywhere.
>>
>> If a system is configured correctly, it will not be for
>> long, after installing Norton.
>
> I know of several universities that would recommend the
> Symantec line long before others for a
> AD/Domain/Worstation controlled environment - for
> student/staff and faculty.
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP

Tom Pepper Willett
07-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Bert:

The corporate version has worked great for my company for the past 4 years
we have used it.

Tom

"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:e3OFg%23DfFHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Hi Shenan,
|
| I suspect that would be the corporate version, which I understand is
| better than the Personal version.
| We have the corporate version at work and still get viruses that slip
| through. Either way I am not impressed.
|
| --
| Regards,
| Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://dts-l.org/
|
| Shenan Stanley wrote:
| > Bert Kinney wrote:
| >> You should do a little research before tossing out
| >> inaccurate comments.
| >>
| >> I dont know of one college that would recommend a Norton
| >> product, except for maybe Ghost and PCAnywhere.
| >>
| >> If a system is configured correctly, it will not be for
| >> long, after installing Norton.
| >
| > I know of several universities that would recommend the
| > Symantec line long before others for a
| > AD/Domain/Worstation controlled environment - for
| > student/staff and faculty.
| > --
| > Shenan Stanley
| > MS-MVP
|
|

Shenan Stanley
07-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Bert Kinney wrote:
> I suspect that would be the corporate version, which I understand is
> better than the Personal version.
> We have the corporate version at work and still get viruses that slip
> through. Either way I am not impressed.

Why suspect? I said "Symantec" and you said "college" - any college that
buys individual licenses for somethig like antivirus is just throwing money
away.. I know of many individual departments that do this in various
colleges - until you knock the admins in the head wiith a clue-stick and
they realize what they are missing from larger numbered licenses and
educational pricing.

If I said "Norton", then you would have to assume a home product. Most
"corporate level" products from Symantec go by the "Symantec" label. Most
home products go by "Norton".

If something has slipped by - (only once in the past 6 years of use in my
experience - thousands of PCs managed by a central server in some
locations - have I had anything "slip by" Symantec AV) - it may be due to
lack of proper setup, infrequent (weekly instead of daily or more often)
updates - i.e. - poor management of the resources given. The server checks
for and can push updates quite often - and a diligent admin watches for
trends - preventing problems before they happen.

I don't deny that for the home user - I would recommend most other
products - heck - I even recommend other products for business depending on
need and function served.. but - Symantec AV has served me well. McAfee - I
cannot say the same for. I still have a bad taste since I watched it let an
infection in and that infection was cleaned the same day by Symantec AV.

Is Symantec AV perfect - no, but its server management (console) for
distributing the software and maintaining it is very well done and its
logging keeps me notified of possible problems on thousands of PCs at once -
not to mention that it, in combination with every other security measure a
competent admin would likely make - has kept me out of hot water many times.
Their ability to do anything with spyware is horrible - admittedly - but I
never expected it to protect against that and I wonder if they might be
venturing into territory best left to others... I use several different AVs
dependent on where I am/etc - very few can I say I actually would not
recommend to some level or for some particular application..

So, while you have every right to have your opinion - so do others.
Opinions can be wrong, yes - but not when those opinions are stating
preference - as you are allowed to have your preferences as am I - and
neither has to agree the other is correct in their preference. You stated
that "I dont know of one college that would recommend a Norton product,
except for maybe Ghost and PCAnywhere." and I stated that I knew of
Universities that would recommend Symantec products. I chose my wording
carefully. Any university using Norton Ghost (Home product) must be ..
well - lacking. heh And PCAnywhere? I truly do not see what it gives me
beyond UltraVNC with properly configured plugins (or just using VPN and
Remote Desktop.)

So, I remain impressed with Symantec (as well as others) and know that no
AntiVirus software out there was meant to stand alone (for prevention of
trojans, worms, viruses) or work if not properly configured and maintained.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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