Replacing HDD on UK Time Computer



John Latter
07-10-2005, 01:25 AM
Hi,

I have a UK Time computer (bout 2 years old) and the hard disc needs
replacing.

As my copy of Windows Home XP is on the end of the hard drive, I was
wondering if anyone can give me any advice (particularly if they've
had experience) of installing a new drive & copying XP on to it.

My current HDD is a Seagate one & I haven't yet been able to get their
diagnostic software to give a full report. Bad sectors are being
reported though & I was also wondering what happens if the 'hidden'
copy of XP contains a bad sector?

Hope someone will be able to help :)

--

John Latter

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

old jon
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
"John Latter" <jorolat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:l8qva1tqf5ire4fpisju9jhhga4f0mii4i@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a UK Time computer (bout 2 years old) and the hard disc needs
> replacing.
>
> As my copy of Windows Home XP is on the end of the hard drive, I was
> wondering if anyone can give me any advice (particularly if they've
> had experience) of installing a new drive & copying XP on to it.
>
> My current HDD is a Seagate one & I haven't yet been able to get their
> diagnostic software to give a full report. Bad sectors are being
> reported though & I was also wondering what happens if the 'hidden'
> copy of XP contains a bad sector?
>
> Hope someone will be able to help :)
>
Not got winXP on disk John ?. Got no way of accessing that partition ?.
And I think you know the answer to `bad sectors` in hidden partition. If
it`s `duff` it`s definitely `duff`. ..J

> --
>
> John Latter
>
> Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
> homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
> http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html
>
> 'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
John

Replace the hdd asap.. re-installing Windows will not fix bad sectors.. it
just avoids them.. save all important data to CD or some other medium..

The chances of Time Computers having recovery CDs for your computer is zero,
most likely.. if you can, go to one of their stores, as calling the
technical support is expensive.. if you can, find a supplier who will sell
you a new hard drive and OEM Windows XP SP2 CD..

Disconnect the present drive, and fit the new one.. install Windows.. once
up and running, reconnect the old drive as a slave and recover anything you
might have missed when you saved stuff.. email and address book for
instance.. before connecting to the internet, ensure that the XP firewall is
running, then connect and do the updates to Windows and your preferred
ant-virus and firewall programs..

Unless Time supplied bundled software on CD, you will lose that.. to make up
for it, Serif offer some great free downloads at
http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/ .. they may not be the latest versions,
but they are all good solid programs.. Open Office is a free office suite..
it is not exactly MS Office 2003, but gets good enough reviews from some..
http://www.openoffice.org/product/

Good luck..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland


"John Latter" <jorolat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:l8qva1tqf5ire4fpisju9jhhga4f0mii4i@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a UK Time computer (bout 2 years old) and the hard disc needs
> replacing.
>
> As my copy of Windows Home XP is on the end of the hard drive, I was
> wondering if anyone can give me any advice (particularly if they've
> had experience) of installing a new drive & copying XP on to it.
>
> My current HDD is a Seagate one & I haven't yet been able to get their
> diagnostic software to give a full report. Bad sectors are being
> reported though & I was also wondering what happens if the 'hidden'
> copy of XP contains a bad sector?
>
> Hope someone will be able to help :)
>
> --
>
> John Latter
>
> Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
> homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
> http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html
>
> 'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

M
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
To test the hard drive you need a free copy of the SeaTools CD from
http://seatools.seagatestorage.com/en
It might be worth asking Seagate if they can replace the drive under
warranty if the test shows that there is a defect. They currently offer a
five year warranty http://5yrwarranty.seagatestorage.com/ although this
might not apply to an OEM drive or drive sold two years ago etc.
"John Latter" <jorolat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:l8qva1tqf5ire4fpisju9jhhga4f0mii4i@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a UK Time computer (bout 2 years old) and the hard disc needs
> replacing.
>
> As my copy of Windows Home XP is on the end of the hard drive, I was
> wondering if anyone can give me any advice (particularly if they've
> had experience) of installing a new drive & copying XP on to it.
>
> My current HDD is a Seagate one & I haven't yet been able to get their
> diagnostic software to give a full report. Bad sectors are being
> reported though & I was also wondering what happens if the 'hidden'
> copy of XP contains a bad sector?
>
> Hope someone will be able to help :)
>
> --
>
> John Latter
>
> Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
> homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
> http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html
>
> 'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

John Latter
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:43:59 GMT, "old jon"
<jonbrookes@nospamntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>"John Latter" <jorolat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:l8qva1tqf5ire4fpisju9jhhga4f0mii4i@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a UK Time computer (bout 2 years old) and the hard disc needs
>> replacing.
>>
>> As my copy of Windows Home XP is on the end of the hard drive, I was
>> wondering if anyone can give me any advice (particularly if they've
>> had experience) of installing a new drive & copying XP on to it.
>>
>> My current HDD is a Seagate one & I haven't yet been able to get their
>> diagnostic software to give a full report. Bad sectors are being
>> reported though & I was also wondering what happens if the 'hidden'
>> copy of XP contains a bad sector?
>>
>> Hope someone will be able to help :)
>>
>Not got winXP on disk John ?. Got no way of accessing that partition ?.
>And I think you know the answer to `bad sectors` in hidden partition. If
>it`s `duff` it`s definitely `duff`. ..J

Nope, the XP is on the end of the HDD. Thought I might try copying the
hidden partition across to a new HDD first to try & avoid buying XP
again - I am so poor! :)

>>
>> John Latter
>>
>> Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
>> homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
>> http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html
>>
>> 'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech
>

--

John Latter

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

John Latter
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:58:44 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)"
<mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>John
>
>Replace the hdd asap.. re-installing Windows will not fix bad sectors.. it
>just avoids them.. save all important data to CD or some other medium..
>
>The chances of Time Computers having recovery CDs for your computer is zero,
>most likely.. if you can, go to one of their stores, as calling the
>technical support is expensive.. if you can, find a supplier who will sell
>you a new hard drive and OEM Windows XP SP2 CD..
>
>Disconnect the present drive, and fit the new one.. install Windows.. once
>up and running, reconnect the old drive as a slave and recover anything you
>might have missed when you saved stuff.. email and address book for
>instance.. before connecting to the internet, ensure that the XP firewall is
>running, then connect and do the updates to Windows and your preferred
>ant-virus and firewall programs..
>
>Unless Time supplied bundled software on CD, you will lose that.. to make up
>for it, Serif offer some great free downloads at
>http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/ .. they may not be the latest versions,
>but they are all good solid programs.. Open Office is a free office suite..
>it is not exactly MS Office 2003, but gets good enough reviews from some..
>http://www.openoffice.org/product/
>
>Good luck..

Thanks for the info & advice Mike - Time didn't supply much in the way
of software so I'm already using quite a bit of free/open source stuff
- thanks for the link though!

--

John Latter

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

John Latter
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:27:30 +0100, "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org>
wrote:

>To test the hard drive you need a free copy of the SeaTools CD from
>http://seatools.seagatestorage.com/en
>It might be worth asking Seagate if they can replace the drive under
>warranty if the test shows that there is a defect. They currently offer a
>five year warranty http://5yrwarranty.seagatestorage.com/ although this
>might not apply to an OEM drive or drive sold two years ago etc.

I'm having trouble getting the SeaTools full check to run to
completion, although I am in touch with Seagate tech support about it.

Seatools quick test fails my HDD & Seagate say theit warranty doesn't
apply to OEM stuff.

Oh well - perhaps I'll win the lottery tonight! :)

Jorolat

>"John Latter" <jorolat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:l8qva1tqf5ire4fpisju9jhhga4f0mii4i@4ax.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a UK Time computer (bout 2 years old) and the hard disc needs
>> replacing.
>>
>> As my copy of Windows Home XP is on the end of the hard drive, I was
>> wondering if anyone can give me any advice (particularly if they've
>> had experience) of installing a new drive & copying XP on to it.
>>
>> My current HDD is a Seagate one & I haven't yet been able to get their
>> diagnostic software to give a full report. Bad sectors are being
>> reported though & I was also wondering what happens if the 'hidden'
>> copy of XP contains a bad sector?
>>
>> Hope someone will be able to help :)
>>
>> --
>>
>> John Latter
>>
>> Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
>> homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
>> http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html
>>
>> 'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech
>

--

John Latter

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
John

I noticed that they were not giving too much away on their website..
cheapskates is what they are.. :-)

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland


"John Latter" <jorolat@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5281b1hq3j0c2fbjlq2c2q07ro5qnaiigv@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:58:44 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)"
> <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>John
>>
>>Replace the hdd asap.. re-installing Windows will not fix bad sectors.. it
>>just avoids them.. save all important data to CD or some other medium..
>>
>>The chances of Time Computers having recovery CDs for your computer is
>>zero,
>>most likely.. if you can, go to one of their stores, as calling the
>>technical support is expensive.. if you can, find a supplier who will sell
>>you a new hard drive and OEM Windows XP SP2 CD..
>>
>>Disconnect the present drive, and fit the new one.. install Windows.. once
>>up and running, reconnect the old drive as a slave and recover anything
>>you
>>might have missed when you saved stuff.. email and address book for
>>instance.. before connecting to the internet, ensure that the XP firewall
>>is
>>running, then connect and do the updates to Windows and your preferred
>>ant-virus and firewall programs..
>>
>>Unless Time supplied bundled software on CD, you will lose that.. to make
>>up
>>for it, Serif offer some great free downloads at
>>http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/ .. they may not be the latest versions,
>>but they are all good solid programs.. Open Office is a free office
>>suite..
>>it is not exactly MS Office 2003, but gets good enough reviews from some..
>>http://www.openoffice.org/product/
>>
>>Good luck..
>
> Thanks for the info & advice Mike - Time didn't supply much in the way
> of software so I'm already using quite a bit of free/open source stuff
> - thanks for the link though!
>
> --
>
> John Latter
>
> Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to
> homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
> http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html
>
> 'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech

John Latter
07-10-2005, 01:26 AM
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:26:07 -0400, "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)"
<mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>John
>
>I noticed that they were not giving too much away on their website..
>cheapskates is what they are.. :-)

They certainly are! Any technical query is at 1 per minute too -
though I must admit that this is the very first time I've had a
problem with my system (3 yrs old in july)

John

ps I like your quote :)

--

John Latter

Model of an Internal Evolutionary Mechanism (based on an extension to homeostasis) linking Stationary-Phase Mutations to the Baldwin Effect.
http://members.aol.com/jorolat/TEM.html

'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evomech


Replacing HDD on UK Time Computer