Michel
07-09-2005, 09:36 PM
Hi (PapaJohn and others)!
I am testing the "PapaJohn - WNV for DVD (PAL)" custom profile (as a work
around for the "27th frame drop" problem). My source material is a DV-AVI
file from a DV camcorder.
My question:
Once the resulting WMF file is opened in TMPGEnc for encoding using the
wizard, TMGPEnc performs a "Judging field order" operation.
TMPGEnc finds that the source is "Interlaced, Bottom fiel first (field B).
Is this correct? I have heard from PapaJohn that the custom profile
"de-interlaces anyway if the input DV-AVI files are interlaced" (see infra).
So why should TMPGEnc find that the file is interlaced?
Thank you in advance.
Michel
--------------------------------------
Thanks Michel,
Yes on using the WMV as the input file to either TMPGEnc or your DVD
software... whatever you usually use to transcode to the MPEG-2 files. If
your DVD software accepts WMV files, try it directly.
The video codec used is Quality VBR using the Windows Media Video9 Advanced
Profile.
The audio codec used is the Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless - VBR Quality
100, 44 kHz, 2 channel 16 bit
I checked 'allow interlaced processing' but my testing so far shows it
de-interlaces anyway if the input DV-AVI files are interlaced.
Video size - 720x576
25 fps
Key frame interval - 6 seconds
Video quality of 95
The bitrate and file size of the finished WMV should end up about the same
as the transcoded MPEG-2 files, about 1/3 as large as a DV-AVI file.
--
PapaJohn
Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
..
"Michel" <michel@m.m> wrote in message
news:utC3F62XFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi PapaJohn,
>
> I would like to test this new custom profile "Heading to DVD" (PAL
> version).
>
> Could you say a bit more about it? What are the specs?
>
> Using TMGEnc, what would be the procedure (simply encode from the wmv
> file?).
>
> Thank you
>
> Michel
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:eT0i29vXFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Al,
>
> I'm looking for users to test my new custom profiles, as a alternative to
> saving and making DVDs via the DV-AVI format.... they on the Saving Movies
> > Custom WMV Profiles page of www.papajohn.org
>
> I made the profiles to work-around the issues.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> .
> "Al Stu" <NOYB@NOYB.org> wrote in message
> news:exVyY2vXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Will Microsoft ever fix the 27th frame drop from every clip and the
> resulting associated audio and audio/music tracks skip/click/pop?
>
>
>
> Top 10 Reasons to Use Windows Movie Maker 2
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/top10.mspx
>
>
>
> #1 -Make Movies Like a Pro
>
> Windows Movie Maker 2 comes with built-in slides, background music, and
> sound effects so you can make entertaining movies your friends will
> actually want to see.
>
> Do Pros also put up with dropped frames and the resulting audio
> skip/click/pop? I think not.
>
> #5 - Highest Quality Video and Audio
>
> With support for the latest Windows Media® compression technology,
> Windows Movie Maker 2 gives you the clearest video and crispest audio
> ever.
>
>
>
> Now that's an out right lie. Dropped frames and audio skip/click/pops
> are "highest quality video and audio", "clearest video and crispest audio
> ever"? I think not.
>
>
>
> Skippy is a peanut butter brand and shouldn't be included in a "High
> Quality" A/V editor.
>
>
>
> Microsoft, would you please fix this problem already. It's been around
> since version 2.0. One would think a quality issue such as this would be
> high on the priority list of fixes. Yet even with the release of 2.1 the
> issue remains and has existed for years.
>
>
>
>
I am testing the "PapaJohn - WNV for DVD (PAL)" custom profile (as a work
around for the "27th frame drop" problem). My source material is a DV-AVI
file from a DV camcorder.
My question:
Once the resulting WMF file is opened in TMPGEnc for encoding using the
wizard, TMGPEnc performs a "Judging field order" operation.
TMPGEnc finds that the source is "Interlaced, Bottom fiel first (field B).
Is this correct? I have heard from PapaJohn that the custom profile
"de-interlaces anyway if the input DV-AVI files are interlaced" (see infra).
So why should TMPGEnc find that the file is interlaced?
Thank you in advance.
Michel
--------------------------------------
Thanks Michel,
Yes on using the WMV as the input file to either TMPGEnc or your DVD
software... whatever you usually use to transcode to the MPEG-2 files. If
your DVD software accepts WMV files, try it directly.
The video codec used is Quality VBR using the Windows Media Video9 Advanced
Profile.
The audio codec used is the Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless - VBR Quality
100, 44 kHz, 2 channel 16 bit
I checked 'allow interlaced processing' but my testing so far shows it
de-interlaces anyway if the input DV-AVI files are interlaced.
Video size - 720x576
25 fps
Key frame interval - 6 seconds
Video quality of 95
The bitrate and file size of the finished WMV should end up about the same
as the transcoded MPEG-2 files, about 1/3 as large as a DV-AVI file.
--
PapaJohn
Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
..
"Michel" <michel@m.m> wrote in message
news:utC3F62XFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hi PapaJohn,
>
> I would like to test this new custom profile "Heading to DVD" (PAL
> version).
>
> Could you say a bit more about it? What are the specs?
>
> Using TMGEnc, what would be the procedure (simply encode from the wmv
> file?).
>
> Thank you
>
> Michel
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:eT0i29vXFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Al,
>
> I'm looking for users to test my new custom profiles, as a alternative to
> saving and making DVDs via the DV-AVI format.... they on the Saving Movies
> > Custom WMV Profiles page of www.papajohn.org
>
> I made the profiles to work-around the issues.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> .
> "Al Stu" <NOYB@NOYB.org> wrote in message
> news:exVyY2vXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Will Microsoft ever fix the 27th frame drop from every clip and the
> resulting associated audio and audio/music tracks skip/click/pop?
>
>
>
> Top 10 Reasons to Use Windows Movie Maker 2
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/top10.mspx
>
>
>
> #1 -Make Movies Like a Pro
>
> Windows Movie Maker 2 comes with built-in slides, background music, and
> sound effects so you can make entertaining movies your friends will
> actually want to see.
>
> Do Pros also put up with dropped frames and the resulting audio
> skip/click/pop? I think not.
>
> #5 - Highest Quality Video and Audio
>
> With support for the latest Windows Media® compression technology,
> Windows Movie Maker 2 gives you the clearest video and crispest audio
> ever.
>
>
>
> Now that's an out right lie. Dropped frames and audio skip/click/pops
> are "highest quality video and audio", "clearest video and crispest audio
> ever"? I think not.
>
>
>
> Skippy is a peanut butter brand and shouldn't be included in a "High
> Quality" A/V editor.
>
>
>
> Microsoft, would you please fix this problem already. It's been around
> since version 2.0. One would think a quality issue such as this would be
> high on the priority list of fixes. Yet even with the release of 2.1 the
> issue remains and has existed for years.
>
>
>
>