Being Banned



Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of the XP
users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
manner.
I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like a
sneak

--
Sandal

Kerry Brown
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
"Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E0B170FF-0147-4482-B54F-91A7F1EAD417@microsoft.com...
>I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of the
>XP
> users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
> manner.
> I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
> ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like a
> sneak
>
> --
> Sandal

You are using the CDO interface with a web browser. Try using a news reader
like OE or Agent. It may have just been a glitch with the CDO interface.

Kerry

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Thankyou Kerry for your reply
Due to my lack of experiance I do not understand your reply, how would I set
such a thing up?
For the record I haven't changed my settings and I'm able to post this.
There was no glitch, all three posts, mine included, were removed.
--
Sandal


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E0B170FF-0147-4482-B54F-91A7F1EAD417@microsoft.com...
> >I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of the
> >XP
> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
> > manner.
> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like a
> > sneak
> >
> > --
> > Sandal
>
> You are using the CDO interface with a web browser. Try using a news reader
> like OE or Agent. It may have just been a glitch with the CDO interface.
>
> Kerry
>
>
>

Rodney
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Sandal wrote:
> I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of the XP
> users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
> manner.
> I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
> ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like a
> sneak
>

Gee Sandal, did you not believe poster JJ when he said MS doesn't ban
posters? If you want a real explanation of the trouble you are
encountering, try stating the evidence. In other words, what makes you
think you were banned?

Rodney

Kerry Brown
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
"Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9BDCEDCB-2201-4896-8104-AB62FD098C00@microsoft.com...
> Thankyou Kerry for your reply
> Due to my lack of experiance I do not understand your reply, how would I
> set
> such a thing up?
> For the record I haven't changed my settings and I'm able to post this.
> There was no glitch, all three posts, mine included, were removed.
> --
> Sandal
>

See the following link

http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm

Kerry


>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E0B170FF-0147-4482-B54F-91A7F1EAD417@microsoft.com...
>> >I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of
>> >the
>> >XP
>> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
>> > manner.
>> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
>> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like
>> > a
>> > sneak
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sandal
>>
>> You are using the CDO interface with a web browser. Try using a news
>> reader
>> like OE or Agent. It may have just been a glitch with the CDO interface.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>>
>>

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Gee Rodney
The posts were pulled, they disapeared and that didn't happen by itself and
straight after that I was unable to post anything altho' I could view.
I haven't changed anything and I'm sending this.
--
Sandal


"Rodney" wrote:

> Sandal wrote:
> > I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of the XP
> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
> > manner.
> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like a
> > sneak
> >
>
> Gee Sandal, did you not believe poster JJ when he said MS doesn't ban
> posters? If you want a real explanation of the trouble you are
> encountering, try stating the evidence. In other words, what makes you
> think you were banned?
>
> Rodney
>

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842970/en-gb

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


Sandal wrote:
> Thankyou Kerry for your reply
> Due to my lack of experiance I do not understand your
> reply, how would I set such a thing up?
> For the record I haven't changed my settings and I'm able
> to post this. There was no glitch, all three posts, mine
> included, were removed.

John Eddy [MSFT]
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
"Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:990B9CBC-7CFC-44C0-AC5C-3E4DF39455E5@microsoft.com...
> "Rodney" wrote:
>
>> Sandal wrote:
>> > I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of
>> > the XP
>> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
>> > manner.
>> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
>> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like
>> > a
>> > sneak
>> >
>>
>> Gee Sandal, did you not believe poster JJ when he said MS doesn't ban
>> posters? If you want a real explanation of the trouble you are
>> encountering, try stating the evidence. In other words, what makes you
>> think you were banned?
>
> Gee Rodney
>
> The posts were pulled, they disapeared and that didn't happen by itself
> and
> straight after that I was unable to post anything altho' I could view.
> I haven't changed anything and I'm sending this.
>

Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't able to
participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error, did the
computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc etc,) but
I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned from
these forums.

Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell, none
of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more information on
the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
John,
Since receiving your post I have spent the last few hours searching, making
sure ,as far as I can, I am neither wasting my time or yours and unless I
have missed something, posts are gone.

Before I go further, your roll within these support groups, can I assume you
can investigate matters such as these thoroughly by that I mean
if posts are being pulled are you able to ascertain that?.

As for being banned/prevented I will explain my concerns in my next post
I do however note your assurances.
--
Sandal


"John Eddy [MSFT]" wrote:

> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:990B9CBC-7CFC-44C0-AC5C-3E4DF39455E5@microsoft.com...
> > "Rodney" wrote:
> >
> >> Sandal wrote:
> >> > I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of
> >> > the XP
> >> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
> >> > manner.
> >> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
> >> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like
> >> > a
> >> > sneak
> >> >
> >>
> >> Gee Sandal, did you not believe poster JJ when he said MS doesn't ban
> >> posters? If you want a real explanation of the trouble you are
> >> encountering, try stating the evidence. In other words, what makes you
> >> think you were banned?
> >
> > Gee Rodney
> >
> > The posts were pulled, they disapeared and that didn't happen by itself
> > and
> > straight after that I was unable to post anything altho' I could view.
> > I haven't changed anything and I'm sending this.
> >
>
> Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't able to
> participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
> happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error, did the
> computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc etc,) but
> I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned from
> these forums.
>
> Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell, none
> of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more information on
> the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?
>
> John Eddy
> Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
>
>
>

Tom Pepper Willett
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
You are being paranoid. You simply don't know how to use the web interface,
or are expriencing problems that occur when the news servers mess up.

Either go with the recommendations you have been given and use a real news
reader, or go back under your bridge.


"Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AB63193E-A70B-405D-BE88-913358FE330F@microsoft.com...
| John,
| Since receiving your post I have spent the last few hours searching,
making
| sure ,as far as I can, I am neither wasting my time or yours and unless I
| have missed something, posts are gone.
|
| Before I go further, your roll within these support groups, can I assume
you
| can investigate matters such as these thoroughly by that I mean
| if posts are being pulled are you able to ascertain that?.
|
| As for being banned/prevented I will explain my concerns in my next post
| I do however note your assurances.
| --
| Sandal
|
|
| "John Eddy [MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:990B9CBC-7CFC-44C0-AC5C-3E4DF39455E5@microsoft.com...
| > > "Rodney" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Sandal wrote:
| > >> > I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any
of
| > >> > the XP
| > >> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a
non-abusive
| > >> > manner.
| > >> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small
minded
| > >> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts
like
| > >> > a
| > >> > sneak
| > >> >
| > >>
| > >> Gee Sandal, did you not believe poster JJ when he said MS doesn't ban
| > >> posters? If you want a real explanation of the trouble you are
| > >> encountering, try stating the evidence. In other words, what makes
you
| > >> think you were banned?
| > >
| > > Gee Rodney
| > >
| > > The posts were pulled, they disapeared and that didn't happen by
itself
| > > and
| > > straight after that I was unable to post anything altho' I could view.
| > > I haven't changed anything and I'm sending this.
| > >
| >
| > Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't able
to
| > participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
| > happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error, did
the
| > computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc etc,)
but
| > I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned from
| > these forums.
| >
| > Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell,
none
| > of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more information
on
| > the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?
| >
| > John Eddy
| > Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
| >
| >
| >

John Eddy [MSFT]
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
"Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AB63193E-A70B-405D-BE88-913358FE330F@microsoft.com...
>> Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't able
>> to
>> participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
>> happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error, did
>> the
>> computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc etc,)
>> but
>> I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned from
>> these forums.
>>
>> Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell,
>> none
>> of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more information
>> on
>> the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?
>>
> John,
> Since receiving your post I have spent the last few hours searching,
> making
> sure ,as far as I can, I am neither wasting my time or yours and unless I
> have missed something, posts are gone.
>
> Before I go further, your roll within these support groups, can I assume
> you
> can investigate matters such as these thoroughly by that I mean
> if posts are being pulled are you able to ascertain that?.
>
> As for being banned/prevented I will explain my concerns in my next post
> I do however note your assurances.

Actually, if you would like to have a conversation with me alone, then I'd
ask you email me. Newsgroups aren't for one-to-one conversations. If you'd
like to post a summary of our email discussion, that's fine. I post with my
real email address for that reason, to be accessible.

My role? I'm the Newsgroups Administrator. If there's someone at Microsoft
more in a role to investigate why and when posts are removed, I hardly know
who they are.

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Thankyou Kerry
--
Sandal


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9BDCEDCB-2201-4896-8104-AB62FD098C00@microsoft.com...
> > Thankyou Kerry for your reply
> > Due to my lack of experiance I do not understand your reply, how would I
> > set
> > such a thing up?
> > For the record I haven't changed my settings and I'm able to post this.
> > There was no glitch, all three posts, mine included, were removed.
> > --
> > Sandal
> >
>
> See the following link
>
> http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.htm
>
> Kerry
>
>
> >
> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
> >
> >> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E0B170FF-0147-4482-B54F-91A7F1EAD417@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any of
> >> >the
> >> >XP
> >> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a non-abusive
> >> > manner.
> >> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small minded
> >> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts like
> >> > a
> >> > sneak
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sandal
> >>
> >> You are using the CDO interface with a web browser. Try using a news
> >> reader
> >> like OE or Agent. It may have just been a glitch with the CDO interface.
> >>
> >> Kerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Thankyou Bert
--
Sandal


"Bert Kinney" wrote:

> Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842970/en-gb
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://dts-l.org/
>
>
> Sandal wrote:
> > Thankyou Kerry for your reply
> > Due to my lack of experiance I do not understand your
> > reply, how would I set such a thing up?
> > For the record I haven't changed my settings and I'm able
> > to post this. There was no glitch, all three posts, mine
> > included, were removed.
>
>
>

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Dear Tom,

Under my bridge people are allowed to voice their concerns and/or make
mistakes gracefully.
As for my mental state, it's sound.
As to your reply, one can only begin to understand the immense relief you
must feel at being able to voice your own deep seated fears.
I wish I could advice you but I am not sure if we here in Microsoft
Communities is the best place for you to express those fears.


--
They that suffer from mental health problems deserve are compassion our
understanding.
Those that care for these people deserve our admiration and respect.

Sandal


"Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:

> You are being paranoid. You simply don't know how to use the web interface,
> or are expriencing problems that occur when the news servers mess up.
>
> Either go with the recommendations you have been given and use a real news
> reader, or go back under your bridge.
>
>
> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AB63193E-A70B-405D-BE88-913358FE330F@microsoft.com...
> | John,
> | Since receiving your post I have spent the last few hours searching,
> making
> | sure ,as far as I can, I am neither wasting my time or yours and unless I
> | have missed something, posts are gone.
> |
> | Before I go further, your roll within these support groups, can I assume
> you
> | can investigate matters such as these thoroughly by that I mean
> | if posts are being pulled are you able to ascertain that?.
> |
> | As for being banned/prevented I will explain my concerns in my next post
> | I do however note your assurances.
> | --
> | Sandal
> |
> |
> | "John Eddy [MSFT]" wrote:
> |
> | > "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:990B9CBC-7CFC-44C0-AC5C-3E4DF39455E5@microsoft.com...
> | > > "Rodney" wrote:
> | > >
> | > >> Sandal wrote:
> | > >> > I have for the last few days been prevented from taking part in any
> of
> | > >> > the XP
> | > >> > users groups, my crime, responding to a nasty posting in a
> non-abusive
> | > >> > manner.
> | > >> > I was given no right of reply, the plug was pulled by a small
> minded
> | > >> > ajudicator who does not have the courage to come forward but acts
> like
> | > >> > a
> | > >> > sneak
> | > >> >
> | > >>
> | > >> Gee Sandal, did you not believe poster JJ when he said MS doesn't ban
> | > >> posters? If you want a real explanation of the trouble you are
> | > >> encountering, try stating the evidence. In other words, what makes
> you
> | > >> think you were banned?
> | > >
> | > > Gee Rodney
> | > >
> | > > The posts were pulled, they disapeared and that didn't happen by
> itself
> | > > and
> | > > straight after that I was unable to post anything altho' I could view.
> | > > I haven't changed anything and I'm sending this.
> | > >
> | >
> | > Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't able
> to
> | > participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
> | > happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error, did
> the
> | > computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc etc,)
> but
> | > I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned from
> | > these forums.
> | >
> | > Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell,
> none
> | > of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more information
> on
> | > the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?
> | >
> | > John Eddy
> | > Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
You're welcome, I hope you make he change.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Sandal wrote:
> Thankyou Bert
>
>> Using Outlook Express To View Newsgroups
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842970/en-gb
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>>
>> Sandal wrote:
>>> Thankyou Kerry for your reply
>>> Due to my lack of experiance I do not understand your
>>> reply, how would I set such a thing up?
>>> For the record I haven't changed my settings and I'm
>>> able to post this. There was no glitch, all three
>>> posts, mine included, were removed.

Sandal
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Thankyou John

Which E-mail address do I use?
I started this on a public forum and have no problem receiving its
support or criticism but I do agree, not the best place for a one to one.
--
Sandal


"John Eddy [MSFT]" wrote:

> "Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AB63193E-A70B-405D-BE88-913358FE330F@microsoft.com...
> >> Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't able
> >> to
> >> participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
> >> happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error, did
> >> the
> >> computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc etc,)
> >> but
> >> I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned from
> >> these forums.
> >>
> >> Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell,
> >> none
> >> of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more information
> >> on
> >> the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?
> >>
> > John,
> > Since receiving your post I have spent the last few hours searching,
> > making
> > sure ,as far as I can, I am neither wasting my time or yours and unless I
> > have missed something, posts are gone.
> >
> > Before I go further, your roll within these support groups, can I assume
> > you
> > can investigate matters such as these thoroughly by that I mean
> > if posts are being pulled are you able to ascertain that?.
> >
> > As for being banned/prevented I will explain my concerns in my next post
> > I do however note your assurances.
>
> Actually, if you would like to have a conversation with me alone, then I'd
> ask you email me. Newsgroups aren't for one-to-one conversations. If you'd
> like to post a summary of our email discussion, that's fine. I post with my
> real email address for that reason, to be accessible.
>
> My role? I'm the Newsgroups Administrator. If there's someone at Microsoft
> more in a role to investigate why and when posts are removed, I hardly know
> who they are.
>
> John Eddy
> Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
>
>
>
>
>

John Eddy [MSFT]
07-10-2005, 02:16 AM
"Sandal" <Sandal@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:74104A22-12F3-48F6-A156-0261B441C30F@microsoft.com...
>> >> Re: Being banned. No, you weren't. I don't know why you weren't
>> >> able
>> >> to
>> >> participate in the forums, especially without knowing exactly what was
>> >> happening on your side (Did the page not load, did you get an error,
>> >> did the
>> >> computer simply implode when you tried to get to the site, etc etc
>> >> etc,) but
>> >> I can say without any reservation that you were and are not banned
>> >> from
>> >> these forums.
>> >>
>> >> Re: Posts being pulled. Not that I can see. As near as I can tell,
>> >> none
>> >> of your posts have been removed. Can you give a little more
>> >> information on
>> >> the missing posts, like date they were made, subject line, etc?
>> >
>> > Since receiving your post I have spent the last few hours searching,
>> > making
>> > sure ,as far as I can, I am neither wasting my time or yours and unless
>> > I
>> > have missed something, posts are gone.
>> >
>> > Before I go further, your roll within these support groups, can I
>> > assume you
>> > can investigate matters such as these thoroughly by that I mean
>> > if posts are being pulled are you able to ascertain that?.
>> >
>> > As for being banned/prevented I will explain my concerns in my next
>> > post
>> > I do however note your assurances.
>>
>> Actually, if you would like to have a conversation with me alone, then
>> I'd
>> ask you email me. Newsgroups aren't for one-to-one conversations.
>
> Which E-mail address do I use?

Sorry, forgot you couldn't see my address in the web based reader.

johneddy@microsoft.com

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator


Being Banned