firewire problem
I can't get my computer to recognize my JVC GR-D94U Mini DV cam with
firewire. I have XP sp2 installed. My computer is a p4 2.4 ghz Aopen
ax4sg-n with a generic 4 port VIA based PCI firewire card. I have tried 3
cables and my neighbours computer as well (His Sony works fine on his, but it
won't recognize mine). He tried my cables on his cam-corder and they
connected to his computer no problem, so they are fine. I put it in Play
with the power connected as instructed. Tried unplugging the firewire and
plugging it back in. Rebooted with it on and connected.
Bottom line: Both computers don't show anything connected to the firewire
port in device manager when the camera is plugged in. No conflicts. No
driver errors. My camera won't work on his or my computer. The cables all
are tested and work. His camera works on his machine (I didn't try it on
mine). I have tried moving the firewire card to another slot, to no avail.
The only time it will connect is with USB, which is poor for video.
JVC won't acknowledge any fault on their part, but I feel that is where the
problem lies, unless it is a Microsoft defect.
I am pulling out my hair on this and have wasted the whole weekend on it.
Help!!!!
Mark
Treeman
07-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Hi Mark,
It's the SP2 firewire drivers. Here's an explanation from Graham
Hughes,
'My Camcorder has stopped working since installing SP2'
(http://tinyurl.com/c2p89)
although I would not be as generous to Microsoft. Since the specs. for
firewire have been out for a long time. '1394ta.org'
(http://1394ta.org/)
If you want, you can try to revert back to SP1 drivers by trying this;
Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 & C:\dllcache in SP1 and copy out
the
following files
1394bus.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
arp1394.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
nic1394.sys is in c:\Windows\System32\Drivers
ohci1394.sys is in C:\windows\System32\drivers
enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers
Copy out the following files to a new folder you can call
"Firewirefix," (without quotes)
Stop XP Sp2 from re-installing it's drivers again by:
Renaming the SP2.cab file to (e.g. to SP2old.cab)
Replace the SP2 versions of these files with the SP1 versions in
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers & C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache in safe
mode.
Go to device manager for your ohci firewire devices and update SP2
drivers to the SP1 drivers by pointing to Firewirefix.(warning message
normal) Reboot.
Your mileage may vary.
Good Luck,
Treeman
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OK, I'll try that and let you knowif it works. Today I went to a computer
shop and tried my camera in 3 brand new computers, they acted as if nothing
was in their firewire ports as well. I even tried a video duplication
company called Copy Cat Video where they take people's home movies and
transfer them to DVD and their computer didn't recognize it either.
Has JVC or Microsoft acknowledged the problem? Why haven't they come up
with a proper fix or updated drivers to solve the problem properly?
Consumer's shouldn't have this problem when they buy a product of any type.
It is a blatant disregard for customer service.
Mark
"Treeman" wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> It's the SP2 firewire drivers. Here's an explanation from Graham
> Hughes,
> 'My Camcorder has stopped working since installing SP2'
> (http://tinyurl.com/c2p89)
> although I would not be as generous to Microsoft. Since the specs. for
> firewire have been out for a long time. '1394ta.org'
> (http://1394ta.org/)
> If you want, you can try to revert back to SP1 drivers by trying this;
> Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 & C:\dllcache in SP1 and copy out
> the
> following files
> 1394bus.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> arp1394.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> nic1394.sys is in c:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> ohci1394.sys is in C:\windows\System32\drivers
> enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers
> Copy out the following files to a new folder you can call
> "Firewirefix," (without quotes)
>
> Stop XP Sp2 from re-installing it's drivers again by:
> Renaming the SP2.cab file to (e.g. to SP2old.cab)
>
> Replace the SP2 versions of these files with the SP1 versions in
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers & C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache in safe
> mode.
>
> Go to device manager for your ohci firewire devices and update SP2
> drivers to the SP1 drivers by pointing to Firewirefix.(warning message
> normal) Reboot.
> Your mileage may vary.
> Good Luck,
> Treeman
>
>
> --
> Treeman
>
>
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>
This may sound like a silly question, but are you using the camera
on-battery or on the AC adapter. My JVC DVM5 does not show up in sp2 when
running on battery (it did in sp1), but is detected and works fine when it
running on its AC adapter.
gb
"Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CDAEE399-664C-4983-BBE6-FED12D639808@microsoft.com...
>I can't get my computer to recognize my JVC GR-D94U Mini DV cam with
> firewire. I have XP sp2 installed. My computer is a p4 2.4 ghz Aopen
> ax4sg-n with a generic 4 port VIA based PCI firewire card. I have tried
> 3
> cables and my neighbours computer as well (His Sony works fine on his, but
> it
> won't recognize mine). He tried my cables on his cam-corder and they
> connected to his computer no problem, so they are fine. I put it in Play
> with the power connected as instructed. Tried unplugging the firewire and
> plugging it back in. Rebooted with it on and connected.
>
> Bottom line: Both computers don't show anything connected to the firewire
> port in device manager when the camera is plugged in. No conflicts. No
> driver errors. My camera won't work on his or my computer. The cables
> all
> are tested and work. His camera works on his machine (I didn't try it on
> mine). I have tried moving the firewire card to another slot, to no
> avail.
>
> The only time it will connect is with USB, which is poor for video.
>
> JVC won't acknowledge any fault on their part, but I feel that is where
> the
> problem lies, unless it is a Microsoft defect.
>
> I am pulling out my hair on this and have wasted the whole weekend on it.
>
>
> Help!!!!
>
> Mark
I have tried it both ways, no difference. I did the rolling back of the
drivers as suggested to SP1 changed to:
1394bus.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
arp1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
nic1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
ohci1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
enum1394.sys is 5.1.2600.0
When that didn't work I checked out
http://tinyurl.com/c2p89
followed directions to change MSDV.sys
(now version 5.1.2600.0)
double checked that no other newer drivers were reinstalled and changed
sp2.cab to sp2.ca_.
IT STILL DOESN'T WORK.
What am I doing wrong?
"g" wrote:
> This may sound like a silly question, but are you using the camera
> on-battery or on the AC adapter. My JVC DVM5 does not show up in sp2 when
> running on battery (it did in sp1), but is detected and works fine when it
> running on its AC adapter.
>
> gb
>
>
> "Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CDAEE399-664C-4983-BBE6-FED12D639808@microsoft.com...
> >I can't get my computer to recognize my JVC GR-D94U Mini DV cam with
> > firewire. I have XP sp2 installed. My computer is a p4 2.4 ghz Aopen
> > ax4sg-n with a generic 4 port VIA based PCI firewire card. I have tried
> > 3
> > cables and my neighbours computer as well (His Sony works fine on his, but
> > it
> > won't recognize mine). He tried my cables on his cam-corder and they
> > connected to his computer no problem, so they are fine. I put it in Play
> > with the power connected as instructed. Tried unplugging the firewire and
> > plugging it back in. Rebooted with it on and connected.
> >
> > Bottom line: Both computers don't show anything connected to the firewire
> > port in device manager when the camera is plugged in. No conflicts. No
> > driver errors. My camera won't work on his or my computer. The cables
> > all
> > are tested and work. His camera works on his machine (I didn't try it on
> > mine). I have tried moving the firewire card to another slot, to no
> > avail.
> >
> > The only time it will connect is with USB, which is poor for video.
> >
> > JVC won't acknowledge any fault on their part, but I feel that is where
> > the
> > problem lies, unless it is a Microsoft defect.
> >
> > I am pulling out my hair on this and have wasted the whole weekend on it.
> >
> >
> > Help!!!!
> >
> > Mark
>
>
>
(forgot to check off Notify me of replies)
"Treeman" wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> It's the SP2 firewire drivers. Here's an explanation from Graham
> Hughes,
> 'My Camcorder has stopped working since installing SP2'
> (http://tinyurl.com/c2p89)
> although I would not be as generous to Microsoft. Since the specs. for
> firewire have been out for a long time. '1394ta.org'
> (http://1394ta.org/)
> If you want, you can try to revert back to SP1 drivers by trying this;
> Go to C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386 & C:\dllcache in SP1 and copy out
> the
> following files
> 1394bus.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> arp1394.sys is in C:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> nic1394.sys is in c:\Windows\System32\Drivers
> ohci1394.sys is in C:\windows\System32\drivers
> enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers
> Copy out the following files to a new folder you can call
> "Firewirefix," (without quotes)
>
> Stop XP Sp2 from re-installing it's drivers again by:
> Renaming the SP2.cab file to (e.g. to SP2old.cab)
>
> Replace the SP2 versions of these files with the SP1 versions in
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers & C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache in safe
> mode.
>
> Go to device manager for your ohci firewire devices and update SP2
> drivers to the SP1 drivers by pointing to Firewirefix.(warning message
> normal) Reboot.
> Your mileage may vary.
> Good Luck,
> Treeman
>
>
> --
> Treeman
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
Graham Hughes
07-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Mark, if you'd like to usethe link from the page Treeman gave you and email
me with all your details I can pass them on to MS.
Graham
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MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com
"Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D74103FC-CA09-451D-93EC-3FBD7067B7C0@microsoft.com...
>I have tried it both ways, no difference. I did the rolling back of the
> drivers as suggested to SP1 changed to:
>
> 1394bus.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> arp1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> nic1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> ohci1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> enum1394.sys is 5.1.2600.0
>
> When that didn't work I checked out
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c2p89
>
> followed directions to change MSDV.sys
>
> (now version 5.1.2600.0)
>
> double checked that no other newer drivers were reinstalled and changed
> sp2.cab to sp2.ca_.
>
> IT STILL DOESN'T WORK.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
>
> "g" wrote:
>
>> This may sound like a silly question, but are you using the camera
>> on-battery or on the AC adapter. My JVC DVM5 does not show up in sp2
>> when
>> running on battery (it did in sp1), but is detected and works fine when
>> it
>> running on its AC adapter.
>>
>> gb
>>
>>
>> "Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CDAEE399-664C-4983-BBE6-FED12D639808@microsoft.com...
>> >I can't get my computer to recognize my JVC GR-D94U Mini DV cam with
>> > firewire. I have XP sp2 installed. My computer is a p4 2.4 ghz Aopen
>> > ax4sg-n with a generic 4 port VIA based PCI firewire card. I have
>> > tried
>> > 3
>> > cables and my neighbours computer as well (His Sony works fine on his,
>> > but
>> > it
>> > won't recognize mine). He tried my cables on his cam-corder and they
>> > connected to his computer no problem, so they are fine. I put it in
>> > Play
>> > with the power connected as instructed. Tried unplugging the firewire
>> > and
>> > plugging it back in. Rebooted with it on and connected.
>> >
>> > Bottom line: Both computers don't show anything connected to the
>> > firewire
>> > port in device manager when the camera is plugged in. No conflicts.
>> > No
>> > driver errors. My camera won't work on his or my computer. The cables
>> > all
>> > are tested and work. His camera works on his machine (I didn't try it
>> > on
>> > mine). I have tried moving the firewire card to another slot, to no
>> > avail.
>> >
>> > The only time it will connect is with USB, which is poor for video.
>> >
>> > JVC won't acknowledge any fault on their part, but I feel that is where
>> > the
>> > problem lies, unless it is a Microsoft defect.
>> >
>> > I am pulling out my hair on this and have wasted the whole weekend on
>> > it.
>> >
>> >
>> > Help!!!!
>> >
>> > Mark
>>
>>
>>
OK, I just sent you my information. I hope you can help me find a solution.
My last option, I guess is to send the camera in for repairs as it is still
under warranty..
Mark
"Graham Hughes" wrote:
> Mark, if you'd like to usethe link from the page Treeman gave you and email
> me with all your details I can pass them on to MS.
> Graham
>
> --
> Graham Hughes
> MVP Digital Media
> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> www.dvds2treasure.com
> www.simplydv.com
>
>
> "Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D74103FC-CA09-451D-93EC-3FBD7067B7C0@microsoft.com...
> >I have tried it both ways, no difference. I did the rolling back of the
> > drivers as suggested to SP1 changed to:
> >
> > 1394bus.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > arp1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > nic1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > ohci1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > enum1394.sys is 5.1.2600.0
> >
> > When that didn't work I checked out
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/c2p89
> >
> > followed directions to change MSDV.sys
> >
> > (now version 5.1.2600.0)
> >
> > double checked that no other newer drivers were reinstalled and changed
> > sp2.cab to sp2.ca_.
> >
> > IT STILL DOESN'T WORK.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >
> > "g" wrote:
> >
> >> This may sound like a silly question, but are you using the camera
> >> on-battery or on the AC adapter. My JVC DVM5 does not show up in sp2
> >> when
> >> running on battery (it did in sp1), but is detected and works fine when
> >> it
> >> running on its AC adapter.
> >>
> >> gb
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CDAEE399-664C-4983-BBE6-FED12D639808@microsoft.com...
> >> >I can't get my computer to recognize my JVC GR-D94U Mini DV cam with
> >> > firewire. I have XP sp2 installed. My computer is a p4 2.4 ghz Aopen
> >> > ax4sg-n with a generic 4 port VIA based PCI firewire card. I have
> >> > tried
> >> > 3
> >> > cables and my neighbours computer as well (His Sony works fine on his,
> >> > but
> >> > it
> >> > won't recognize mine). He tried my cables on his cam-corder and they
> >> > connected to his computer no problem, so they are fine. I put it in
> >> > Play
> >> > with the power connected as instructed. Tried unplugging the firewire
> >> > and
> >> > plugging it back in. Rebooted with it on and connected.
> >> >
> >> > Bottom line: Both computers don't show anything connected to the
> >> > firewire
> >> > port in device manager when the camera is plugged in. No conflicts.
> >> > No
> >> > driver errors. My camera won't work on his or my computer. The cables
> >> > all
> >> > are tested and work. His camera works on his machine (I didn't try it
> >> > on
> >> > mine). I have tried moving the firewire card to another slot, to no
> >> > avail.
> >> >
> >> > The only time it will connect is with USB, which is poor for video.
> >> >
> >> > JVC won't acknowledge any fault on their part, but I feel that is where
> >> > the
> >> > problem lies, unless it is a Microsoft defect.
> >> >
> >> > I am pulling out my hair on this and have wasted the whole weekend on
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Help!!!!
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
elleno
07-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Mark, I have had to contact JVC's "customer service" (I use the term
loosely) several times for the GR-D290U I recently bought. My computer
also wouldn't recognize the camcorder & there's nothing helpful in the
instruction manual. They said it has to be set to Play (which you said
you did) and Memory. I had mine set on Play and Video. Don't know if
this applies to your situation but hope it helps a little, which is
more than JVC does!
Ellen
Mark wrote:
> OK, I just sent you my information. I hope you can help me find a solution.
> My last option, I guess is to send the camera in for repairs as it is still
> under warranty..
>
> Mark
>
> "Graham Hughes" wrote:
>
> > Mark, if you'd like to usethe link from the page Treeman gave you and email
> > me with all your details I can pass them on to MS.
> > Graham
> >
> > --
> > Graham Hughes
> > MVP Digital Media
> > www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> > www.dvds2treasure.com
> > www.simplydv.com
> >
> >
> > "Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:D74103FC-CA09-451D-93EC-3FBD7067B7C0@microsoft.com...
> > >I have tried it both ways, no difference. I did the rolling back of the
> > > drivers as suggested to SP1 changed to:
> > >
> > > 1394bus.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > > arp1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > > nic1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > > ohci1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106
> > > enum1394.sys is 5.1.2600.0
> > >
> > > When that didn't work I checked out
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/c2p89
> > >
> > > followed directions to change MSDV.sys
> > >
> > > (now version 5.1.2600.0)
> > >
> > > double checked that no other newer drivers were reinstalled and changed
> > > sp2.cab to sp2.ca_.
> > >
> > > IT STILL DOESN'T WORK.
> > >
> > > What am I doing wrong?
> > >
> > >
> > > "g" wrote:
> > >
> > >> This may sound like a silly question, but are you using the camera
> > >> on-battery or on the AC adapter. My JVC DVM5 does not show up in sp2
> > >> when
> > >> running on battery (it did in sp1), but is detected and works fine when
> > >> it
> > >> running on its AC adapter.
> > >>
> > >> gb
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Mark" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:CDAEE399-664C-4983-BBE6-FED12D639808@microsoft.com...
> > >> >I can't get my computer to recognize my JVC GR-D94U Mini DV cam with
> > >> > firewire. I have XP sp2 installed. My computer is a p4 2.4 ghz Aopen
> > >> > ax4sg-n with a generic 4 port VIA based PCI firewire card. I have
> > >> > tried
> > >> > 3
> > >> > cables and my neighbours computer as well (His Sony works fine on his,
> > >> > but
> > >> > it
> > >> > won't recognize mine). He tried my cables on his cam-corder and they
> > >> > connected to his computer no problem, so they are fine. I put it in
> > >> > Play
> > >> > with the power connected as instructed. Tried unplugging the firewire
> > >> > and
> > >> > plugging it back in. Rebooted with it on and connected.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bottom line: Both computers don't show anything connected to the
> > >> > firewire
> > >> > port in device manager when the camera is plugged in. No conflicts.
> > >> > No
> > >> > driver errors. My camera won't work on his or my computer. The cables
> > >> > all
> > >> > are tested and work. His camera works on his machine (I didn't try it
> > >> > on
> > >> > mine). I have tried moving the firewire card to another slot, to no
> > >> > avail.
> > >> >
> > >> > The only time it will connect is with USB, which is poor for video.
> > >> >
> > >> > JVC won't acknowledge any fault on their part, but I feel that is where
> > >> > the
> > >> > problem lies, unless it is a Microsoft defect.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am pulling out my hair on this and have wasted the whole weekend on
> > >> > it.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Help!!!!
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
Treeman
07-09-2005, 10:35 PM
Mark, it may have been your renaming of SP2.cab to SP2.ca_
A .cab file (cabinet file) is a valid XP subset of drivers compressed
within the cabinet. Check which drivers got loaded in device manager,
are they Sp1 or SP2 versions? The dates are the clue. If SP2 drivers
got put back, you should change the SP2.cab folder to SP2old.cab
Best,
Treeman
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Here is a transcript of my latest conversations with Graham Hughes for those
interested:
"I just tried his Sony Digital 8 on my computer’s firewire and it connected
like it was supposed to. (mine won’t)
He does have sp2 installed. I will let you know what else I find.
Mark
Graham: Mark,
Thanks for the info.
It is important to find out for sure that your friend’s pc is either running
sp1 or 2. If his is running SP1 and it doesn’t work, it does point away from
SP2 causing the trouble, but not definitely, as different pc’s etc etc…….
I will await your testing cam and asking him about sp2.
Cheers
Graham
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark: I will answer your questions in the order asked.
How old is the cam? - Under 1 year
Is it PAL /NTSC? - NSTC
Has the cam ever worked on your pc or any other pc? - Not that I am aware
of, but it does work with USB
When was the last time? -
Can you remember if anything odd happened when it was last connected? -
Nothing
Do you use mains power when connecting? - Tried Both
Is your friend’s pc sp2 as well? - Unsure, but likely. New PC’s in the
store I tried unknown as well.
Can you try his cam on your pc, just for confirmation the pc is fine? I
will try and let you know
Can you find a friend with an SP1 pc to try your cam on? This should rule
out the firewire port being damaged on the cam, which does happen quite often
unfortunately. -- I will try to find one and let you know
Can you try the fixes listed on my site, or the ones you fell happy doing
and let me know if anything improves? I tried all the fixes and replaced the
sp2 drivers with sp1 ones and then changed the name of sp2.cab to sp2.ca_.
newer drivers were not reinstalled. The names and dates of the files are
below. There are no other locations with these files dated differently on my
computer.
1394bus.sys is 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) August 29, 2002
arp1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) August 29, 2002
nic1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) August 29, 2002
ohci1394.sys is 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920) August 29, 2002
enum1394.sys is 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148) August 17, 2001
msdv.sys 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148) August 17, 2001
"Treeman" wrote:
>
> Mark, it may have been your renaming of SP2.cab to SP2.ca_
> A .cab file (cabinet file) is a valid XP subset of drivers compressed
> within the cabinet. Check which drivers got loaded in device manager,
> are they Sp1 or SP2 versions? The dates are the clue. If SP2 drivers
> got put back, you should change the SP2.cab folder to SP2old.cab
> Best,
> Treeman
>
>
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>
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