NO ONE understands MS workgroups and networking?



L
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Heh,
I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts but
mine goes unanswered.

Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.

Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p

Leythos
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
In article <TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga>,
lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com says...
> Heh,
> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts but
> mine goes unanswered.
>
> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>
> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p

Maybe it was the way you worded it or that you didn't include enough
usable information?

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Ramesh, MS-MVP
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
>> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
>> but mine goes unanswered.

I don't think there is anything funny here. You need to post the question in
appropriate groups. But remember, we all are volunteers.

About the Microsoft MVP Program:
http://www.mvps.org/about/

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Microsoft Public Newsgroups listing available at http://aumha.org/nntp.php

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"L" <lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote in message
news:TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga...
> Heh,
> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
> but mine goes unanswered.
>
> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>
> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
>

Patti MacLeod
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
"L" <lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote in message
news:TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga...
> Heh,
> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
but
> mine goes unanswered.
>
> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>
> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p

Perhaps you should try posting to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
newsgroup ;-)



Regards,

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

L
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d0666d8589610b5989849@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> In article <TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga>,
> lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com says...
>> Heh,
>> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
>> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
>> but
>> mine goes unanswered.
>>
>> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>>
>> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
>
> Maybe it was the way you worded it or that you didn't include enough
> usable information?
>
See the post. I gave everything except the serial numbers of the computers,
lol. But I will try cross-posting.

This is driving me nuts. Shut down the entire office for half a day.

Our final 'solution' was to move the company files to another computer.

However, the problem is not solved. As the owner, and administrator, I
specifically do not like having a 'blind' computer.

The secretary who sits at that workstation is NOT computer proficient.. and
having to re-map her shortcuts and drive letters to point to a new
workstation is a real pain.
And, all other office computers needed to be re-mapped.

Again, no spyware on the comp, no changes to OS.
Just a typical MS drop/change in something or other (why oh why do I EVER
download MS "updates")

My frustration is compounded by information/suggestions in the knowledge
base that are just flat out wrong.

Here's another one I found at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308887/

If you do not know the name of the computer, you can browse for the
computer on the network: 1. Click Start, and then click My Network Places.
2. Click Entire Network.
3. Double-click Microsoft Windows Network.


I have to wonder if ANYONE at MS has ever looked at the window that appears
when you click on 'My Network Places'

It does not have a selection for 'Entire Network'

The troubleshooter for networking is similarly flawed. There you are told to
1.. Open Network Connections in Control Panel.
2.. Click the Computer Name tab, and then click change
And, there is no Computer Name tab in that window.

I know windows is huge.. and product control is difficult... but does no one
at MS read the helpfiles they create?

L
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
"Patti MacLeod" <pam120@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:%23UbgTbgZFHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> "L" <lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote in message
> news:TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga...
>> Heh,
>> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
>> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
> but
>> mine goes unanswered.
>>
>> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>>
>> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
>
> Perhaps you should try posting to the
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
> newsgroup ;-)
>
I'll try. My presumption was that the above newsgroup dealt with internet
based networking.

Cari \(MS-MVP\)
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Well probably the network gurus expected you to ask in the correct newsgroup
which would be

microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
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Cari
(MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)

"L" <lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote in message
news:TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga...
> Heh,
> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
> but mine goes unanswered.
>
> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>
> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
>
>

Kerry Brown
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
"L" <lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote in message
news:TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga...
> Heh,
> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
> but mine goes unanswered.
>
> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>
> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
>

Please see my reply to your original post. As others have pointed out this
is a volunteer peer newsgroup. With complex problems it often takes a day or
two to come up with a solution via newsgroup. If you need a faster solution
contact a local consultant.

Kerry

L
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
"Cari (MS-MVP)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote in message
news:u0r8LxgZFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Well probably the network gurus expected you to ask in the correct
> newsgroup which would be
>
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
> --
> Cari
Again, never would have guessed network_web would have anything to do with
LOCAL networking problems.
I did repost, and am hoping for help over there.

I also noticed I was not the only one having problems with workgroups today.
Seems 'something' changed recently.

Leythos
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
In article <Jt1ne.1738$_Q2.532@fe11.lga>,
lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1d0666d8589610b5989849@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> > In article <TU0ne.27768$NZ1.1189@fe09.lga>,
> > lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com says...
> >> Heh,
> >> I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
> >> I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts
> >> but
> >> mine goes unanswered.
> >>
> >> Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
> >>
> >> Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
> >
> > Maybe it was the way you worded it or that you didn't include enough
> > usable information?
> >
> See the post. I gave everything except the serial numbers of the computers,
> lol. But I will try cross-posting.

Sorry, I don't have your post, it was purged a while ago - that's how
Usenet works.

> This is driving me nuts. Shut down the entire office for half a day.
>
> Our final 'solution' was to move the company files to another computer.

Were the files on a Server or a workstation? If it was a workstation you
are just asking for problems unless it's just 1 or 2 machines.

> However, the problem is not solved. As the owner, and administrator, I
> specifically do not like having a 'blind' computer.
>
> The secretary who sits at that workstation is NOT computer proficient.. and
> having to re-map her shortcuts and drive letters to point to a new
> workstation is a real pain.
> And, all other office computers needed to be re-mapped.

Why don't you have them setup to run from a batch file in the ALL USERS
startup folder - you edit one file on the PC and it disconnects/maps in
one shot every time they boot? Simple solution to a simple problem.

You store the master mapping.bat file on a central computer, make
changes to it, then copy it to the other computers each time you make a
change.

> Again, no spyware on the comp, no changes to OS.
> Just a typical MS drop/change in something or other (why oh why do I EVER
> download MS "updates")
>
> My frustration is compounded by information/suggestions in the knowledge
> base that are just flat out wrong.
>
> Here's another one I found at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308887/
>
> If you do not know the name of the computer, you can browse for the
> computer on the network: 1. Click Start, and then click My Network Places.
> 2. Click Entire Network.
> 3. Double-click Microsoft Windows Network.
>
>
> I have to wonder if ANYONE at MS has ever looked at the window that appears
> when you click on 'My Network Places'
>
> It does not have a selection for 'Entire Network'

It does on my computers.... Did you disable File/Printer sharing? Did
you remove client for MS networking?

Also, did you disable the Windows Firewall?

> The troubleshooter for networking is similarly flawed. There you are told to
> 1.. Open Network Connections in Control Panel.
> 2.. Click the Computer Name tab, and then click change
> And, there is no Computer Name tab in that window.

Hmmm, open control panel, open Network Connections, click "Advanced"
menu item, click "Network Identification", select "Computer Name" tab,
select "Change" enter workgroup name and computer name, follow through,
reboot.

> I know windows is huge.. and product control is difficult... but does no one
> at MS read the helpfiles they create?

So, how about posting some information about your computers setup:

Computer 1: Name _____
IP Address: _____
Mask: _____
Gateway: _____
DNS1: _____
DNS2: _____
Workgroup: _____
SP2 Firewall Enabled (y/n): _____

Computer 2: Name _____
IP Address: _____
Mask: _____
Gateway: _____
DNS1: _____
DNS2: _____
Workgroup: _____
SP2 Firewall Enabled (y/n): _____

Computer 3: Name _____
IP Address: _____
Mask: _____
Gateway: _____
DNS1: _____
DNS2: _____
Workgroup: _____
SP2 Firewall Enabled (y/n): _____

repeat as needed.

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Patti MacLeod
07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
"L" <lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote in message
news:Hu1ne.1739$_Q2.772@fe11.lga...
> I'll try. My presumption was that the above newsgroup dealt with internet
> based networking.

Hopefully someone who frequents that newsgroup will be able to help you
resolve the problem. My experience with networking is extremely limited
(home network connecting two computers via CAT5 crossover), so I would
probably not be able to offer you much helpful input ;-)



Regards,

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

07-10-2005, 02:14 AM
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:11:07 -0400, "L"
<lisaanne_quilts@hothatesspammail.com> wrote:

>Heh,
>I understand the concept of usenet, and didn't expect immediate replies.
>I still find it funny that some "MV-MVP's" have responded to other posts but
>mine goes unanswered.
>
>Seems I'm not alone in confusion about networks in windows xp.
>
>Lol, perhaps the new office should be Linux ;p
>

I'm decent at fixing many aspects of our 10 workstation network.
However, it is real important for me to know my limitations and to
have qualified, technical support ready to help me within one working
day or less. For example, I don't mess, tweak, or adjust the
network.


NO ONE understands MS workgroups and networking?