[JBeryleC]

My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to convert to
DV AVI... my question is this...

The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for AVI is
740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to 740 there is
a quality loss...

I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and 740 are
both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc etc... ?

grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
Thanks in advance...

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

What I'm doing from the Sony mini-discs with the 704x480 MPEG-2 files is
resizing them to 720x480 as part of the conversion process. See my Importing
Source Files > Video > Discs page at www.papajohn.org for more info about my
conversion process.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
..
"JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
news:BFB7789D-F6BB-4EC0-901E-34640E9235CF@microsoft.com...
> My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to convert
> to
> DV AVI... my question is this...
>
> The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
> When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for AVI is
> 740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to 740 there
> is
> a quality loss...
>
> I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and 740 are
> both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc etc... ?
>
> grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
> Thanks in advance...

[JBeryleC]

Oops... I meant 720, not 740! dOh lol
Thanks, I'll have a look


"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> What I'm doing from the Sony mini-discs with the 704x480 MPEG-2 files is
> resizing them to 720x480 as part of the conversion process. See my Importing
> Source Files > Video > Discs page at www.papajohn.org for more info about my
> conversion process.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> ..
> "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:BFB7789D-F6BB-4EC0-901E-34640E9235CF@microsoft.com...
> > My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to convert
> > to
> > DV AVI... my question is this...
> >
> > The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
> > When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for AVI is
> > 740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to 740 there
> > is
> > a quality loss...
> >
> > I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and 740 are
> > both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc etc... ?
> >
> > grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
> > Thanks in advance...
>
>
>

[JBeryleC]

Ok, so I downloaded Vdub... and I figured out how to add the resixe filter
and set it to 720x480... that works perfect. Thank you...

However, I have yet another problem... On the Sony cam I record in 16:9 and
none of the video players or editors I use (MM, Nero, Vdub) recognize that
it's supposed to be 16:9, they all play and or export in 4:3... it looks like
crap because it's all smashed up to fit in the frame (i.e. people look very
skinny)...

Does VDub have a aspect ratio option? I need to be able to force this file
to be recognized as 16:9...
TIA


"JBeryleC" wrote:

> Oops... I meant 720, not 740! dOh lol
> Thanks, I'll have a look
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
> > What I'm doing from the Sony mini-discs with the 704x480 MPEG-2 files is
> > resizing them to 720x480 as part of the conversion process. See my Importing
> > Source Files > Video > Discs page at www.papajohn.org for more info about my
> > conversion process.
> > --
> > PapaJohn
> >
> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > ..
> > "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
> > news:BFB7789D-F6BB-4EC0-901E-34640E9235CF@microsoft.com...
> > > My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to convert
> > > to
> > > DV AVI... my question is this...
> > >
> > > The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
> > > When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for AVI is
> > > 740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to 740 there
> > > is
> > > a quality loss...
> > >
> > > I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and 740 are
> > > both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc etc... ?
> > >
> > > grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
> > > Thanks in advance...
> >
> >
> >

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

All DV-AVI files are 720x480, those that have the regular aspect ratio of
4:3 and the widescreen ones of 16:9

Many players/viewers look at a tag in the file telling it that it's one or
the other and shows it that way regardless of pixel dimensions. Movie Maker
has a choice in the Settings.. change it to 16:9 and it'll work with and
save it that way. VDub shows you the actual pixels, as it's an editing
utility, not a viewer.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
..
"JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
news:62B8CD09-1F7A-4200-89C4-E823CC160624@microsoft.com...
> Ok, so I downloaded Vdub... and I figured out how to add the resixe filter
> and set it to 720x480... that works perfect. Thank you...
>
> However, I have yet another problem... On the Sony cam I record in 16:9
> and
> none of the video players or editors I use (MM, Nero, Vdub) recognize that
> it's supposed to be 16:9, they all play and or export in 4:3... it looks
> like
> crap because it's all smashed up to fit in the frame (i.e. people look
> very
> skinny)...
>
> Does VDub have a aspect ratio option? I need to be able to force this file
> to be recognized as 16:9...
> TIA
>
>
> "JBeryleC" wrote:
>
>> Oops... I meant 720, not 740! dOh lol
>> Thanks, I'll have a look
>>
>>
>> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>>
>> > What I'm doing from the Sony mini-discs with the 704x480 MPEG-2 files
>> > is
>> > resizing them to 720x480 as part of the conversion process. See my
>> > Importing
>> > Source Files > Video > Discs page at www.papajohn.org for more info
>> > about my
>> > conversion process.
>> > --
>> > PapaJohn
>> >
>> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> > ..
>> > "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:BFB7789D-F6BB-4EC0-901E-34640E9235CF@microsoft.com...
>> > > My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to
>> > > convert
>> > > to
>> > > DV AVI... my question is this...
>> > >
>> > > The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
>> > > When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for AVI
>> > > is
>> > > 740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to 740
>> > > there
>> > > is
>> > > a quality loss...
>> > >
>> > > I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and 740
>> > > are
>> > > both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc
>> > > etc... ?
>> > >
>> > > grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
>> > > Thanks in advance...
>> >
>> >
>> >

[JBeryleC]

Does VDub allow for changing pixel size? .9 to 1.2 right?
I really would feel more comfortable if all the editors/viewers showed the
content as 16:9 through all the processes it's taking me to get to the final
DVD outcome...



"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> All DV-AVI files are 720x480, those that have the regular aspect ratio of
> 4:3 and the widescreen ones of 16:9
>
> Many players/viewers look at a tag in the file telling it that it's one or
> the other and shows it that way regardless of pixel dimensions. Movie Maker
> has a choice in the Settings.. change it to 16:9 and it'll work with and
> save it that way. VDub shows you the actual pixels, as it's an editing
> utility, not a viewer.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> ..
> "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:62B8CD09-1F7A-4200-89C4-E823CC160624@microsoft.com...
> > Ok, so I downloaded Vdub... and I figured out how to add the resixe filter
> > and set it to 720x480... that works perfect. Thank you...
> >
> > However, I have yet another problem... On the Sony cam I record in 16:9
> > and
> > none of the video players or editors I use (MM, Nero, Vdub) recognize that
> > it's supposed to be 16:9, they all play and or export in 4:3... it looks
> > like
> > crap because it's all smashed up to fit in the frame (i.e. people look
> > very
> > skinny)...
> >
> > Does VDub have a aspect ratio option? I need to be able to force this file
> > to be recognized as 16:9...
> > TIA
> >
> >
> > "JBeryleC" wrote:
> >
> >> Oops... I meant 720, not 740! dOh lol
> >> Thanks, I'll have a look
> >>
> >>
> >> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
> >>
> >> > What I'm doing from the Sony mini-discs with the 704x480 MPEG-2 files
> >> > is
> >> > resizing them to 720x480 as part of the conversion process. See my
> >> > Importing
> >> > Source Files > Video > Discs page at www.papajohn.org for more info
> >> > about my
> >> > conversion process.
> >> > --
> >> > PapaJohn
> >> >
> >> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
> >> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >> > ..
> >> > "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:BFB7789D-F6BB-4EC0-901E-34640E9235CF@microsoft.com...
> >> > > My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to
> >> > > convert
> >> > > to
> >> > > DV AVI... my question is this...
> >> > >
> >> > > The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
> >> > > When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for AVI
> >> > > is
> >> > > 740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to 740
> >> > > there
> >> > > is
> >> > > a quality loss...
> >> > >
> >> > > I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and 740
> >> > > are
> >> > > both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc
> >> > > etc... ?
> >> > >
> >> > > grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
> >> > > Thanks in advance...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

Pixels are squares on computer monitors... they can be tiny or large and of
any size.... but you can't change their shape.

--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
..
"JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
news:1A03A1BB-534F-4505-89F7-A3C56E6530FB@microsoft.com...
> Does VDub allow for changing pixel size? .9 to 1.2 right?
> I really would feel more comfortable if all the editors/viewers showed the
> content as 16:9 through all the processes it's taking me to get to the
> final
> DVD outcome...
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> All DV-AVI files are 720x480, those that have the regular aspect ratio of
>> 4:3 and the widescreen ones of 16:9
>>
>> Many players/viewers look at a tag in the file telling it that it's one
>> or
>> the other and shows it that way regardless of pixel dimensions. Movie
>> Maker
>> has a choice in the Settings.. change it to 16:9 and it'll work with and
>> save it that way. VDub shows you the actual pixels, as it's an editing
>> utility, not a viewer.
>> --
>> PapaJohn
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> ..
>> "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:62B8CD09-1F7A-4200-89C4-E823CC160624@microsoft.com...
>> > Ok, so I downloaded Vdub... and I figured out how to add the resixe
>> > filter
>> > and set it to 720x480... that works perfect. Thank you...
>> >
>> > However, I have yet another problem... On the Sony cam I record in 16:9
>> > and
>> > none of the video players or editors I use (MM, Nero, Vdub) recognize
>> > that
>> > it's supposed to be 16:9, they all play and or export in 4:3... it
>> > looks
>> > like
>> > crap because it's all smashed up to fit in the frame (i.e. people look
>> > very
>> > skinny)...
>> >
>> > Does VDub have a aspect ratio option? I need to be able to force this
>> > file
>> > to be recognized as 16:9...
>> > TIA
>> >
>> >
>> > "JBeryleC" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oops... I meant 720, not 740! dOh lol
>> >> Thanks, I'll have a look
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > What I'm doing from the Sony mini-discs with the 704x480 MPEG-2
>> >> > files
>> >> > is
>> >> > resizing them to 720x480 as part of the conversion process. See my
>> >> > Importing
>> >> > Source Files > Video > Discs page at www.papajohn.org for more info
>> >> > about my
>> >> > conversion process.
>> >> > --
>> >> > PapaJohn
>> >> >
>> >> > Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 - www.papajohn.org
>> >> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>> >> > ..
>> >> > "JBeryleC" <JBeryleC@only.idiots.spam.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:BFB7789D-F6BB-4EC0-901E-34640E9235CF@microsoft.com...
>> >> > > My Sony cam records in MPEG2... in order to edit in MM I have to
>> >> > > convert
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > DV AVI... my question is this...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The MPEG2 is 704x480 (4:3 Actual, 16:9 Displayed)
>> >> > > When using NeroVisionExpress to convert to AVI the resolution for
>> >> > > AVI
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > 740x480 not 704... whats the deal? Obviously if I stretch 704 to
>> >> > > 740
>> >> > > there
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > a quality loss...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I've done some research on resolutions and it seems that 704 and
>> >> > > 740
>> >> > > are
>> >> > > both DVD compatible.. so which is better, more widely used, etc
>> >> > > etc... ?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > grRRr.. why cant there just be one friggin standard!?
>> >> > > Thanks in advance...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>>