XP Shutdown



CAO8661ME
07-10-2005, 01:09 AM
I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown the computer it
switched off automatically, on XP I have to wait for the instruction to turn
it off manually. Any way of XP doing it automatically?

Thanks

Rod

Wesley Vogel
07-10-2005, 01:09 AM
Yes there is, but you have a problem.

[[You may receive the following message:
It is now safe to turn off your computer.]]
Your Computer May Not Shut Down After You Upgrade to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313290

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:C11AC089-EC51-46F1-A6B9-B62BBF2E8665@microsoft.com,
CAO8661ME <CAO8661ME@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown the computer it
> switched off automatically, on XP I have to wait for the instruction to
> turn it off manually. Any way of XP doing it automatically?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod

River_Rat
07-10-2005, 01:09 AM
When XP is first installed it tries to determine what type of BIOS is
available on the computer. Newer systems have what is known as Advanced
Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) capability. Unfortunately, XP
doesn't always recognize a computer BIOS is ACPI capable and doesn't install
the support for ACPI. Even more unfortunate is the fact that if ACPI support
isn't determined at the initial install it's virtually impossible to correct
this at a later time short of reinstalling XP over the top of the previous
XP installation. To do so requires changing the Hardware Abstraction Layer
(HAL). The chances of successfully changing a HAL after XP has been
installed is pretty close to zilch.

Once you drop the CD in the tray and fire up the computer to install XP, the
first thing you'll see at the bottom of the screen is the option to press F6
if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Don't press F6. Press F5
instead. This will take you to a separate menu of Hardware Abstraction
Layer's where you can choose an appropriate HAL that supports ACPI. The
choices will be:

a.. ACPI Multiprocessor PC

b.. ACPI Uniprocessor PC

c.. Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC

d.. Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible PC

e.. MPS Uniprocessor PC

f.. MPS Multiprocessor PC

g.. Standard PC

h.. Standard PC with C-Step i486

i.. Other

In the majority of installations the 'Advanced Configuration and Power
Interface (ACPI) PC' HAL is the one you will want to use. A few cautions are
also in order:

a.. Obtain and install the latest BIOS for your motherboard before you
begin the XP installation.

b.. Equally as important as using the proper HAL on ACPI capable systems,
is NOT using it on systems that are not ACPI compatible. The install may
complete but the system will almost surely fail to start when it reboots.

c.. There are situations where it is definitely not desirable to use an
ACPI HAL even if it is supported by the BIOS. This predominately applies to
servers, but to ensure that an ACPI HAL will not be used or automatically
detected and used, press F7 instead of F5 as discussed previously.

Considering the number of problems that users have with systems not shutting
down completely I wonder why this feature is not prominently mentioned and
documented. It could save many headaches, but now you know. A good piece of
knowledge to have tucked away for your next XP install.

As a final note, to determine if your computer was detected as being ACPI
enabled:

Right click My Computer then click Properties > Hardware > Device Manager.
Expand the entry called Computer.

If the entry is 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC'
you're all set. If it says 'Standard PC' the computer BIOS was not detected
as being ACPI capable.


--
Good Day
River Rat




"CAO8661ME" <CAO8661ME@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C11AC089-EC51-46F1-A6B9-B62BBF2E8665@microsoft.com...
I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown the computer it
switched off automatically, on XP I have to wait for the instruction to turn
it off manually. Any way of XP doing it automatically?

Thanks

Rod

Bert Kinney
07-10-2005, 01:09 AM
Hi Rod,

Windows XP Shutdown Troubleshooter
http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


CAO8661ME wrote:
> I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown
> the computer it switched off automatically, on XP I have
> to wait for the instruction to turn it off manually. Any
> way of XP doing it automatically?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod

CAO8661ME
07-10-2005, 01:10 AM
Hi Wesley,

Many thanks, I put a tick in the box and it cured it.

Regards

Rod

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> Yes there is, but you have a problem.
>
> [[You may receive the following message:
> It is now safe to turn off your computer.]]
> Your Computer May Not Shut Down After You Upgrade to Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313290
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:C11AC089-EC51-46F1-A6B9-B62BBF2E8665@microsoft.com,
> CAO8661ME <CAO8661ME@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> > I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown the computer it
> > switched off automatically, on XP I have to wait for the instruction to
> > turn it off manually. Any way of XP doing it automatically?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rod
>

CAO8661ME
07-10-2005, 01:10 AM
Hi,

When I went into 'Computer' it said mine was a 'Standard PC'.

However, I followed the instructions of Wesley in the above posting and it
cured it.

Thanks for your help

Rod

"River_Rat" wrote:

> When XP is first installed it tries to determine what type of BIOS is
> available on the computer. Newer systems have what is known as Advanced
> Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) capability. Unfortunately, XP
> doesn't always recognize a computer BIOS is ACPI capable and doesn't install
> the support for ACPI. Even more unfortunate is the fact that if ACPI support
> isn't determined at the initial install it's virtually impossible to correct
> this at a later time short of reinstalling XP over the top of the previous
> XP installation. To do so requires changing the Hardware Abstraction Layer
> (HAL). The chances of successfully changing a HAL after XP has been
> installed is pretty close to zilch.
>
> Once you drop the CD in the tray and fire up the computer to install XP, the
> first thing you'll see at the bottom of the screen is the option to press F6
> if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Don't press F6. Press F5
> instead. This will take you to a separate menu of Hardware Abstraction
> Layer's where you can choose an appropriate HAL that supports ACPI. The
> choices will be:
>
> a.. ACPI Multiprocessor PC
>
> b.. ACPI Uniprocessor PC
>
> c.. Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
>
> d.. Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible PC
>
> e.. MPS Uniprocessor PC
>
> f.. MPS Multiprocessor PC
>
> g.. Standard PC
>
> h.. Standard PC with C-Step i486
>
> i.. Other
>
> In the majority of installations the 'Advanced Configuration and Power
> Interface (ACPI) PC' HAL is the one you will want to use. A few cautions are
> also in order:
>
> a.. Obtain and install the latest BIOS for your motherboard before you
> begin the XP installation.
>
> b.. Equally as important as using the proper HAL on ACPI capable systems,
> is NOT using it on systems that are not ACPI compatible. The install may
> complete but the system will almost surely fail to start when it reboots.
>
> c.. There are situations where it is definitely not desirable to use an
> ACPI HAL even if it is supported by the BIOS. This predominately applies to
> servers, but to ensure that an ACPI HAL will not be used or automatically
> detected and used, press F7 instead of F5 as discussed previously.
>
> Considering the number of problems that users have with systems not shutting
> down completely I wonder why this feature is not prominently mentioned and
> documented. It could save many headaches, but now you know. A good piece of
> knowledge to have tucked away for your next XP install.
>
> As a final note, to determine if your computer was detected as being ACPI
> enabled:
>
> Right click My Computer then click Properties > Hardware > Device Manager.
> Expand the entry called Computer.
>
> If the entry is 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC'
> you're all set. If it says 'Standard PC' the computer BIOS was not detected
> as being ACPI capable.
>
>
> --
> Good Day
> River Rat
>
>
>
>
> "CAO8661ME" <CAO8661ME@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C11AC089-EC51-46F1-A6B9-B62BBF2E8665@microsoft.com...
> I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown the computer it
> switched off automatically, on XP I have to wait for the instruction to turn
> it off manually. Any way of XP doing it automatically?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rod
>
>
>

CAO8661ME
07-10-2005, 01:10 AM
Hi Bert,

Please see the posting from Wesley above, it cured it.

Thanks for your help.

Rod

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

> Hi Rod,
>
> Windows XP Shutdown Troubleshooter
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://dts-l.org/
>
>
> CAO8661ME wrote:
> > I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown
> > the computer it switched off automatically, on XP I have
> > to wait for the instruction to turn it off manually. Any
> > way of XP doing it automatically?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rod
>
>
>

Wesley Vogel
07-10-2005, 01:10 AM
Glad to hear it, Rod.

Keep having fun! :-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:A17146BE-B5A1-406E-B712-DCC82E4B7BB5@microsoft.com,
CAO8661ME <CAO8661ME@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> Hi Wesley,
>
> Many thanks, I put a tick in the box and it cured it.
>
> Regards
>
> Rod
>
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>
>> Yes there is, but you have a problem.
>>
>> [[You may receive the following message:
>> It is now safe to turn off your computer.]]
>> Your Computer May Not Shut Down After You Upgrade to Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313290
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:C11AC089-EC51-46F1-A6B9-B62BBF2E8665@microsoft.com,
>> CAO8661ME <CAO8661ME@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
>>> I've just upgraded from 98 to XP, on 98 when I shutdown the computer it
>>> switched off automatically, on XP I have to wait for the instruction to
>>> turn it off manually. Any way of XP doing it automatically?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rod


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