Win XP Reboots Unexpectedly



Gis Bun
07-10-2005, 01:01 AM
Hi,

Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently installed
were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an older
version, I still have the problem.

Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and all
current hotfixes.

Ideas?

Gis

Shenan Stanley
07-10-2005, 01:01 AM
Gis Bun wrote:
> Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> installed were updated video drivers but even after removing them and
> going to an older version, I still have the problem.
>
> Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and
> all current hotfixes.

Temperature or other hardware issues?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--

Joshua Smith [MSFT]
07-10-2005, 01:01 AM
To determine what driver is causing the problem I need you to enable driver
verifier.
Steps:
1) Windows Key + R
2) Type in 'verifier' and hit enter
3) Make sure 'Create Standard Setting' is selected and hit next
4) Click on 'Select all drivers installed on this computer' and hit Finish
5) Reboot

There is a possibility that your computer will crash on reboot. If this
occurs hit F8 when rebooting just before the windows logo screen and select
the safe mode boot option. Follow the same steps above but on step 4 choose
'Select driver names from a list'; hit next; check the box next to any
driver where the provider is not Microsoft; hit Finish; reboot.

This will slow the performance of you computer a little while enabled but
will hopefully catch the driver causing corruption. Next time you crash
the blue screen will hopefully say something like
"DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION". If this occurs please send the
corresponding minidump (by default it is at c:\windows\Minidump ) my way.
If you have any questions or I didn't explain something well enough don't
hesitate to e-mail me (remove "online") back. Good Luck,


Joshua Smith
OpenGL Test Lab
Microsoft
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"Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2CE09DDD-E0AF-4C66-8B5F-D48437983D9A@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> installed
> were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an
> older
> version, I still have the problem.
>
> Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and all
> current hotfixes.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Gis
>
>
>
>

Philip Wagstaff
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Once it has booted up and just lying idle take a look at Task Manager,
what's the CPU doing, anything running?


"Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2CE09DDD-E0AF-4C66-8B5F-D48437983D9A@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> installed
> were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an
> older
> version, I still have the problem.
>
> Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and all
> current hotfixes.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Gis
>
>
>
>

Gis Bun
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
I'll check this out shortly (as I'm not where the troubled PC is).

Gis

"Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:

> To determine what driver is causing the problem I need you to enable driver
> verifier.
> Steps:
> 1) Windows Key + R
> 2) Type in 'verifier' and hit enter
> 3) Make sure 'Create Standard Setting' is selected and hit next
> 4) Click on 'Select all drivers installed on this computer' and hit Finish
> 5) Reboot
>
> There is a possibility that your computer will crash on reboot. If this
> occurs hit F8 when rebooting just before the windows logo screen and select
> the safe mode boot option. Follow the same steps above but on step 4 choose
> 'Select driver names from a list'; hit next; check the box next to any
> driver where the provider is not Microsoft; hit Finish; reboot.
>
> This will slow the performance of you computer a little while enabled but
> will hopefully catch the driver causing corruption. Next time you crash
> the blue screen will hopefully say something like
> "DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION". If this occurs please send the
> corresponding minidump (by default it is at c:\windows\Minidump ) my way.
> If you have any questions or I didn't explain something well enough don't
> hesitate to e-mail me (remove "online") back. Good Luck,
>
>
> Joshua Smith
> OpenGL Test Lab
> Microsoft
> -----
>
> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
>
> "Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2CE09DDD-E0AF-4C66-8B5F-D48437983D9A@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> > Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> > installed
> > were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an
> > older
> > version, I still have the problem.
> >
> > Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and all
> > current hotfixes.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Gis
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Gis Bun
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Wasn't running much when this has happened. System wasn't sluggish.

Gis

"Philip Wagstaff" wrote:

> Once it has booted up and just lying idle take a look at Task Manager,
> what's the CPU doing, anything running?
>
>
> "Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2CE09DDD-E0AF-4C66-8B5F-D48437983D9A@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> > Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> > installed
> > were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an
> > older
> > version, I still have the problem.
> >
> > Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and all
> > current hotfixes.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Gis
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Gis Bun
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
I was thinking about that but after rebooting, I can use Win XP for another
60 minutes or more. So wouldn't an overheat cause the system to reboot within
(let's say) 15 minutes and not over an hour.

Gis

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Gis Bun wrote:
> > Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> > Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> > installed were updated video drivers but even after removing them and
> > going to an older version, I still have the problem.
> >
> > Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and
> > all current hotfixes.
>
> Temperature or other hardware issues?
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
>
>
>

Gis Bun
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Hi Joshua,

I'm sending you the file any minute. How do I undo the "verification?

Thanks

Gis

"Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:

> To determine what driver is causing the problem I need you to enable driver
> verifier.
> Steps:
> 1) Windows Key + R
> 2) Type in 'verifier' and hit enter
> 3) Make sure 'Create Standard Setting' is selected and hit next
> 4) Click on 'Select all drivers installed on this computer' and hit Finish
> 5) Reboot
>
> There is a possibility that your computer will crash on reboot. If this
> occurs hit F8 when rebooting just before the windows logo screen and select
> the safe mode boot option. Follow the same steps above but on step 4 choose
> 'Select driver names from a list'; hit next; check the box next to any
> driver where the provider is not Microsoft; hit Finish; reboot.
>
> This will slow the performance of you computer a little while enabled but
> will hopefully catch the driver causing corruption. Next time you crash
> the blue screen will hopefully say something like
> "DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION". If this occurs please send the
> corresponding minidump (by default it is at c:\windows\Minidump ) my way.
> If you have any questions or I didn't explain something well enough don't
> hesitate to e-mail me (remove "online") back. Good Luck,
>
>
> Joshua Smith
> OpenGL Test Lab
> Microsoft
> -----
>
> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
>
> "Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2CE09DDD-E0AF-4C66-8B5F-D48437983D9A@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
> > Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
> > installed
> > were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an
> > older
> > version, I still have the problem.
> >
> > Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and all
> > current hotfixes.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Gis
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Joshua Smith [MSFT]
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
Hi Gis,

I replied in email how to disable verifier, but for those that can't see
email, just run verifier again and choose to "Delete existing settings".

Joshua Smith
OpenGL Test Lab
Microsoft
-----

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security

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"Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DA38990D-FB8E-4E37-A9AC-534F4EAACA1D@microsoft.com...
> Hi Joshua,
>
> I'm sending you the file any minute. How do I undo the "verification?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gis
>
> "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> To determine what driver is causing the problem I need you to enable
>> driver
>> verifier.
>> Steps:
>> 1) Windows Key + R
>> 2) Type in 'verifier' and hit enter
>> 3) Make sure 'Create Standard Setting' is selected and hit next
>> 4) Click on 'Select all drivers installed on this computer' and hit
>> Finish
>> 5) Reboot
>>
>> There is a possibility that your computer will crash on reboot. If this
>> occurs hit F8 when rebooting just before the windows logo screen and
>> select
>> the safe mode boot option. Follow the same steps above but on step 4
>> choose
>> 'Select driver names from a list'; hit next; check the box next to any
>> driver where the provider is not Microsoft; hit Finish; reboot.
>>
>> This will slow the performance of you computer a little while enabled but
>> will hopefully catch the driver causing corruption. Next time you crash
>> the blue screen will hopefully say something like
>> "DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION". If this occurs please send the
>> corresponding minidump (by default it is at c:\windows\Minidump ) my way.
>> If you have any questions or I didn't explain something well enough don't
>> hesitate to e-mail me (remove "online") back. Good Luck,
>>
>>
>> Joshua Smith
>> OpenGL Test Lab
>> Microsoft
>> -----
>>
>> Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights
>>
>> "Gis Bun" <GisBun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2CE09DDD-E0AF-4C66-8B5F-D48437983D9A@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Within the last couple of days my PC has been rebooting unexpectedly.
>> > Doesn't seem to be related to any applicaion. Only thing recently
>> > installed
>> > were updated video drivers but even after removing them and going to an
>> > older
>> > version, I still have the problem.
>> >
>> > Nothing in the event logs. System is virus free. Win XP with SP2 and
>> > all
>> > current hotfixes.
>> >
>> > Ideas?
>> >
>> > Gis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>


Win XP Reboots Unexpectedly