Upgrade this computer for games?



Don Pullem
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
grandkids can play their games on it.

Windows XP HE
Micron Millennia MAX
Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
Two USB 1.1 ports

Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?

I would appreciate your input. Thanks

Don

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Don Pullem wrote:

> I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
> grandkids can play their games on it.
>
> Windows XP HE
> Micron Millennia MAX
> Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> Two USB 1.1 ports
>
> Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
> moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
>
> I would appreciate your input. Thanks
>
> Don

It depends on how old your grandchildren are. If they are under 6 and
playing very simple games, your computer is adequate. For anything
else, it will not do. This computer, if still working well, is quite
good for Internet surfing, email, office applications. You should not
attempt to upgrade it any further.

If your grandchildren are teenagers, particularly teenage boys, then
they will want a computer with at least a 3+GHz processor, a minimum of
512MB of RAM, a fast hard drive, and a current generation video card. A
middle-of-the-pack video card is around $200 and should have at least
128MB of RAM on it. The gaming box should also have a good sound card
that doesn't use processor cycles.

Look at the Dell XPS gaming machines to get an idea of gaming specs. You
can't turn your older computer into one of these machines.

Malke
--
MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic"

Don Pullem
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Malke -

Appreciate the quick response. My grandkids are 10, 12 and 15. So looks
like I'll have to come up with a different plan. Thanks for taking the time
to reply, I appreciate it.

Don
"Malke" <notreally@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:eZInvKGfFHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Don Pullem wrote:
>
>> I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
>> grandkids can play their games on it.
>>
>> Windows XP HE
>> Micron Millennia MAX
>> Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
>> Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
>> Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
>> Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
>> RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
>> Two USB 1.1 ports
>>
>> Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
>> moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
>>
>> I would appreciate your input. Thanks
>>
>> Don
>
> It depends on how old your grandchildren are. If they are under 6 and
> playing very simple games, your computer is adequate. For anything
> else, it will not do. This computer, if still working well, is quite
> good for Internet surfing, email, office applications. You should not
> attempt to upgrade it any further.
>
> If your grandchildren are teenagers, particularly teenage boys, then
> they will want a computer with at least a 3+GHz processor, a minimum of
> 512MB of RAM, a fast hard drive, and a current generation video card. A
> middle-of-the-pack video card is around $200 and should have at least
> 128MB of RAM on it. The gaming box should also have a good sound card
> that doesn't use processor cycles.
>
> Look at the Dell XPS gaming machines to get an idea of gaming specs. You
> can't turn your older computer into one of these machines.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic"

Jim Macklin
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
I would suggest that you keep that computer for their school
work, it will run office/school applications just fine and
do web search/email but the cost to upgrade the hardware to
run today's games will be more than the cost of buying a new
computer.
The PIII is not fast by the new standards, to upgrade that
to a 2.4 GHz P4 will require a new mobo, the new mobo will
require upgraded RAM to the DDR spec and you will need a
video card that has 128-256 MB. All together this would be
a new computer and might require that you also buy a new
copy of the OS (depends on whether your current OS is retail
or OEM).

You can buy a gaming computer for $500-1200 depending how
good a shopper you are. It would cost the a large part of
that to upgrade and you'd still have an old computer in the
hard drives and power supply/and optical drives.

Shop around the web site for Dell and Gateway to see current
deals. Ask your grandkids what games they play and check
the web for the specs for a machine to play those games (and
the next gen games too.)


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
|I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade
so that my
| grandkids can play their games on it.
|
| Windows XP HE
| Micron Millennia MAX
| Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
| Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
| Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
| Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
| RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
| Two USB 1.1 ports
|
| Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it
make sense
| moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
|
| I would appreciate your input. Thanks
|
| Don
|
|
|

Don Pullem
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Jim -

Thanks for the response. My present Gateway 700XL meets the specs you and
Malke outlined. Looks like I have a good reason to give the grandkids the
Gateway and get myself a new one. It's funny how things always work out for
the best <g>. Thanks

Don


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:e0DipRGfFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>I would suggest that you keep that computer for their school
> work, it will run office/school applications just fine and
> do web search/email but the cost to upgrade the hardware to
> run today's games will be more than the cost of buying a new
> computer.
> The PIII is not fast by the new standards, to upgrade that
> to a 2.4 GHz P4 will require a new mobo, the new mobo will
> require upgraded RAM to the DDR spec and you will need a
> video card that has 128-256 MB. All together this would be
> a new computer and might require that you also buy a new
> copy of the OS (depends on whether your current OS is retail
> or OEM).
>
> You can buy a gaming computer for $500-1200 depending how
> good a shopper you are. It would cost the a large part of
> that to upgrade and you'd still have an old computer in the
> hard drives and power supply/and optical drives.
>
> Shop around the web site for Dell and Gateway to see current
> deals. Ask your grandkids what games they play and check
> the web for the specs for a machine to play those games (and
> the next gen games too.)
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
> "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> |I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade
> so that my
> | grandkids can play their games on it.
> |
> | Windows XP HE
> | Micron Millennia MAX
> | Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> | Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> | Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> | Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> | RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> | Two USB 1.1 ports
> |
> | Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it
> make sense
> | moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
> |
> | I would appreciate your input. Thanks
> |
> | Don
> |
> |
> |
>
>

Jim Macklin
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Just remember, your three grandkids, will have to share and
the old computer will do for homework. So, I'd give them
that and your 700XL too.

So what do you want the new computer to do?


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
news:%23CCCkoGfFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Jim -
|
| Thanks for the response. My present Gateway 700XL meets
the specs you and
| Malke outlined. Looks like I have a good reason to give
the grandkids the
| Gateway and get myself a new one. It's funny how things
always work out for
| the best <g>. Thanks
|
| Don
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:e0DipRGfFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| >I would suggest that you keep that computer for their
school
| > work, it will run office/school applications just fine
and
| > do web search/email but the cost to upgrade the hardware
to
| > run today's games will be more than the cost of buying a
new
| > computer.
| > The PIII is not fast by the new standards, to upgrade
that
| > to a 2.4 GHz P4 will require a new mobo, the new mobo
will
| > require upgraded RAM to the DDR spec and you will need a
| > video card that has 128-256 MB. All together this would
be
| > a new computer and might require that you also buy a new
| > copy of the OS (depends on whether your current OS is
retail
| > or OEM).
| >
| > You can buy a gaming computer for $500-1200 depending
how
| > good a shopper you are. It would cost the a large part
of
| > that to upgrade and you'd still have an old computer in
the
| > hard drives and power supply/and optical drives.
| >
| > Shop around the web site for Dell and Gateway to see
current
| > deals. Ask your grandkids what games they play and
check
| > the web for the specs for a machine to play those games
(and
| > the next gen games too.)
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| > some support
| > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| >
| >
| >
| > "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
| > news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > |I have the following computer that I would like to
upgrade
| > so that my
| > | grandkids can play their games on it.
| > |
| > | Windows XP HE
| > | Micron Millennia MAX
| > | Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
| > | Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
| > | Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
| > | Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
| > | RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
| > | Two USB 1.1 ports
| > |
| > | Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would
it
| > make sense
| > | moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
| > |
| > | I would appreciate your input. Thanks
| > |
| > | Don
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Yves Leclerc
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
This PC has:

1) Front Side Bus (FSB) @ 133 Mhz. Thus, the RAM is SDRAM 133
3) nVidia TNT2 based AGP video card

This indicates a "slow" PC for the modern games. 512MB DDR Ram and an ATi
Raedon (or nVidia Geforce) video card are some of the "minimum" requirements
for 3D game nowdays.



"Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
>grandkids can play their games on it.
>
> Windows XP HE
> Micron Millennia MAX
> Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> Two USB 1.1 ports
>
> Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
> moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
>
> I would appreciate your input. Thanks
>
> Don
>
>
>

beamish
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Hello, A few gaming machine builders, study the gaming attitude and machine
setup.
http://www.morelpc.com
http://www.alienware.com
http://www.viciouspc.com
Take Care.
beamish.

"Don Pullem" wrote:

> I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
> grandkids can play their games on it.
>
> Windows XP HE
> Micron Millennia MAX
> Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> Two USB 1.1 ports
>
> Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
> moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
>
> I would appreciate your input. Thanks
>
> Don
>
>
>
>

Don Pullem
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
"beamish" <beamish@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FC33243B-2ADD-4893-8F13-6CEBC28EA992@microsoft.com...
> Hello, A few gaming machine builders, study the gaming attitude and
> machine
> setup.
> http://www.morelpc.com
> http://www.alienware.com
> http://www.viciouspc.com
> Take Care.
> beamish.
>
> "Don Pullem" wrote:
>
>> I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
>> grandkids can play their games on it.
>>
>> Windows XP HE
>> Micron Millennia MAX
>> Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
>> Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
>> Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
>> Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
>> RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
>> Two USB 1.1 ports
>>
>> Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
>> moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
>>
>> I would appreciate your input. Thanks
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>

Don Pullem
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Hi Jim,

I'm an amatuer photographer with pro equipment. I do a fair amount of
editing in Photoshop. I have probably 7-8K of
8-10MB images on file and their growing fast. I don't do any games, however
I will need at least 2GB of RAM for PS.
Other than that just the normal stuff, banking, taxes, word processing and
internet surfing.

I was thinking about the Dell Gen 5 desktops. Any suggestions?

Don


"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:%23S9qecHfFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Just remember, your three grandkids, will have to share and
> the old computer will do for homework. So, I'd give them
> that and your 700XL too.
>
> So what do you want the new computer to do?
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
> "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> news:%23CCCkoGfFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | Jim -
> |
> | Thanks for the response. My present Gateway 700XL meets
> the specs you and
> | Malke outlined. Looks like I have a good reason to give
> the grandkids the
> | Gateway and get myself a new one. It's funny how things
> always work out for
> | the best <g>. Thanks
> |
> | Don
> |
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
> in message
> | news:e0DipRGfFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | >I would suggest that you keep that computer for their
> school
> | > work, it will run office/school applications just fine
> and
> | > do web search/email but the cost to upgrade the hardware
> to
> | > run today's games will be more than the cost of buying a
> new
> | > computer.
> | > The PIII is not fast by the new standards, to upgrade
> that
> | > to a 2.4 GHz P4 will require a new mobo, the new mobo
> will
> | > require upgraded RAM to the DDR spec and you will need a
> | > video card that has 128-256 MB. All together this would
> be
> | > a new computer and might require that you also buy a new
> | > copy of the OS (depends on whether your current OS is
> retail
> | > or OEM).
> | >
> | > You can buy a gaming computer for $500-1200 depending
> how
> | > good a shopper you are. It would cost the a large part
> of
> | > that to upgrade and you'd still have an old computer in
> the
> | > hard drives and power supply/and optical drives.
> | >
> | > Shop around the web site for Dell and Gateway to see
> current
> | > deals. Ask your grandkids what games they play and
> check
> | > the web for the specs for a machine to play those games
> (and
> | > the next gen games too.)
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | > some support
> | > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> | > news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > |I have the following computer that I would like to
> upgrade
> | > so that my
> | > | grandkids can play their games on it.
> | > |
> | > | Windows XP HE
> | > | Micron Millennia MAX
> | > | Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> | > | Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> | > | Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> | > | Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> | > | RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> | > | Two USB 1.1 ports
> | > |
> | > | Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would
> it
> | > make sense
> | > | moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
> | > |
> | > | I would appreciate your input. Thanks
> | > |
> | > | Don
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

Jim Macklin
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
PS will use all the RAM you can give it, you'll want the
fastest system you can get, a big hard drive or even better
a RAID.
I would look at a WACOM display or at least a tablet for
editing. www.wacom.com

A DVD DL writer, and a good graphics card suitable for
static photos doesn't need to be as fast as a gaming card.

You could spend $10,000 on the computer, a WACOM display,
flash card readers, or as little as just a few grand and use
a WACOM pad for editing.

Consider a 64 bit system.

Speed of the CPU and RAM and a good display are what I would
look for. Dell is OK, but you might consider a custom built
system. If you go with Dell be sure to check all
customizations and speak to them on the phone about software
deals.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm




"Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
news:erahzAQfFHA.3692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Hi Jim,
|
| I'm an amatuer photographer with pro equipment. I do a
fair amount of
| editing in Photoshop. I have probably 7-8K of
| 8-10MB images on file and their growing fast. I don't do
any games, however
| I will need at least 2GB of RAM for PS.
| Other than that just the normal stuff, banking, taxes,
word processing and
| internet surfing.
|
| I was thinking about the Dell Gen 5 desktops. Any
suggestions?
|
| Don
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:%23S9qecHfFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > Just remember, your three grandkids, will have to share
and
| > the old computer will do for homework. So, I'd give
them
| > that and your 700XL too.
| >
| > So what do you want the new computer to do?
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| > some support
| > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| >
| >
| >
| > "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
| > news:%23CCCkoGfFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | Jim -
| > |
| > | Thanks for the response. My present Gateway 700XL
meets
| > the specs you and
| > | Malke outlined. Looks like I have a good reason to
give
| > the grandkids the
| > | Gateway and get myself a new one. It's funny how
things
| > always work out for
| > | the best <g>. Thanks
| > |
| > | Don
| > |
| > |
| > | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote
| > in message
| > | news:e0DipRGfFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > | >I would suggest that you keep that computer for their
| > school
| > | > work, it will run office/school applications just
fine
| > and
| > | > do web search/email but the cost to upgrade the
hardware
| > to
| > | > run today's games will be more than the cost of
buying a
| > new
| > | > computer.
| > | > The PIII is not fast by the new standards, to
upgrade
| > that
| > | > to a 2.4 GHz P4 will require a new mobo, the new
mobo
| > will
| > | > require upgraded RAM to the DDR spec and you will
need a
| > | > video card that has 128-256 MB. All together this
would
| > be
| > | > a new computer and might require that you also buy a
new
| > | > copy of the OS (depends on whether your current OS
is
| > retail
| > | > or OEM).
| > | >
| > | > You can buy a gaming computer for $500-1200
depending
| > how
| > | > good a shopper you are. It would cost the a large
part
| > of
| > | > that to upgrade and you'd still have an old computer
in
| > the
| > | > hard drives and power supply/and optical drives.
| > | >
| > | > Shop around the web site for Dell and Gateway to see
| > current
| > | > deals. Ask your grandkids what games they play and
| > check
| > | > the web for the specs for a machine to play those
games
| > (and
| > | > the next gen games too.)
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| > | > some support
| > | > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | > |I have the following computer that I would like to
| > upgrade
| > | > so that my
| > | > | grandkids can play their games on it.
| > | > |
| > | > | Windows XP HE
| > | > | Micron Millennia MAX
| > | > | Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
| > | > | Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
| > | > | Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
| > | > | Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
| > | > | RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
| > | > | Two USB 1.1 ports
| > | > |
| > | > | Is this setup upgradeable to play today games?
Would
| > it
| > | > make sense
| > | > | moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
| > | > |
| > | > | I would appreciate your input. Thanks
| > | > |
| > | > | Don
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

beamish
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Hello, Your welcome.
Your unit not worth spending money for gaming upgrade. Increase the ram
(128), update the video driver, aquire a couple of game pads and clean up the
system. Cost under $100.00 U.S.
If it does not work, then consider a new unit.
Take Care.
beamish.

"Don Pullem" wrote:

>
> "beamish" <beamish@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FC33243B-2ADD-4893-8F13-6CEBC28EA992@microsoft.com...
> > Hello, A few gaming machine builders, study the gaming attitude and
> > machine
> > setup.
> > http://www.morelpc.com
> > http://www.alienware.com
> > http://www.viciouspc.com
> > Take Care.
> > beamish.
> >
> > "Don Pullem" wrote:
> >
> >> I have the following computer that I would like to upgrade so that my
> >> grandkids can play their games on it.
> >>
> >> Windows XP HE
> >> Micron Millennia MAX
> >> Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> >> Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> >> Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> >> Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> >> RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> >> Two USB 1.1 ports
> >>
> >> Is this setup upgradeable to play today games? Would it make sense
> >> moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
> >>
> >> I would appreciate your input. Thanks
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Don Pullem
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
Jim,

I appreciate you taking the time to respond and your suggestions. I will
definately use them to help me decide on what I need in my new computer.
Thanks

Don

Don
"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
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> PS will use all the RAM you can give it, you'll want the
> fastest system you can get, a big hard drive or even better
> a RAID.
> I would look at a WACOM display or at least a tablet for
> editing. www.wacom.com
>
> A DVD DL writer, and a good graphics card suitable for
> static photos doesn't need to be as fast as a gaming card.
>
> You could spend $10,000 on the computer, a WACOM display,
> flash card readers, or as little as just a few grand and use
> a WACOM pad for editing.
>
> Consider a 64 bit system.
>
> Speed of the CPU and RAM and a good display are what I would
> look for. Dell is OK, but you might consider a custom built
> system. If you go with Dell be sure to check all
> customizations and speak to them on the phone about software
> deals.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
>
> "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> news:erahzAQfFHA.3692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | Hi Jim,
> |
> | I'm an amatuer photographer with pro equipment. I do a
> fair amount of
> | editing in Photoshop. I have probably 7-8K of
> | 8-10MB images on file and their growing fast. I don't do
> any games, however
> | I will need at least 2GB of RAM for PS.
> | Other than that just the normal stuff, banking, taxes,
> word processing and
> | internet surfing.
> |
> | I was thinking about the Dell Gen 5 desktops. Any
> suggestions?
> |
> | Don
> |
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
> in message
> | news:%23S9qecHfFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > Just remember, your three grandkids, will have to share
> and
> | > the old computer will do for homework. So, I'd give
> them
> | > that and your 700XL too.
> | >
> | > So what do you want the new computer to do?
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | > some support
> | > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> | > news:%23CCCkoGfFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > | Jim -
> | > |
> | > | Thanks for the response. My present Gateway 700XL
> meets
> | > the specs you and
> | > | Malke outlined. Looks like I have a good reason to
> give
> | > the grandkids the
> | > | Gateway and get myself a new one. It's funny how
> things
> | > always work out for
> | > | the best <g>. Thanks
> | > |
> | > | Don
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
> wrote
> | > in message
> | > | news:e0DipRGfFHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > | >I would suggest that you keep that computer for their
> | > school
> | > | > work, it will run office/school applications just
> fine
> | > and
> | > | > do web search/email but the cost to upgrade the
> hardware
> | > to
> | > | > run today's games will be more than the cost of
> buying a
> | > new
> | > | > computer.
> | > | > The PIII is not fast by the new standards, to
> upgrade
> | > that
> | > | > to a 2.4 GHz P4 will require a new mobo, the new
> mobo
> | > will
> | > | > require upgraded RAM to the DDR spec and you will
> need a
> | > | > video card that has 128-256 MB. All together this
> would
> | > be
> | > | > a new computer and might require that you also buy a
> new
> | > | > copy of the OS (depends on whether your current OS
> is
> | > retail
> | > | > or OEM).
> | > | >
> | > | > You can buy a gaming computer for $500-1200
> depending
> | > how
> | > | > good a shopper you are. It would cost the a large
> part
> | > of
> | > | > that to upgrade and you'd still have an old computer
> in
> | > the
> | > | > hard drives and power supply/and optical drives.
> | > | >
> | > | > Shop around the web site for Dell and Gateway to see
> | > current
> | > | > deals. Ask your grandkids what games they play and
> | > check
> | > | > the web for the specs for a machine to play those
> games
> | > (and
> | > | > the next gen games too.)
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > The people think the Constitution protects their
> rights;
> | > | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be
> overcome.
> | > | > some support
> | > | > http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Don Pullem" <dp2@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:uH7mw4FfFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > | > |I have the following computer that I would like to
> | > upgrade
> | > | > so that my
> | > | > | grandkids can play their games on it.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Windows XP HE
> | > | > | Micron Millennia MAX
> | > | > | Intel PIII 667MHZ 133FB
> | > | > | Seattle 2 440BX ATX motherboard
> | > | > | Two hard drives - (1) 22GB and (1) 30GB 7200rpm
> | > | > | Video Card - Diamond Viper 770 16MB SDRAM TNT2 AGP
> | > | > | RAM - 384MB SDRAM (Upgradeable to 768 max)
> | > | > | Two USB 1.1 ports
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Is this setup upgradeable to play today games?
> Would
> | > it
> | > | > make sense
> | > | > | moneywise? What upgrades do you suggest?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I would appreciate your input. Thanks
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Don
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>


Upgrade this computer for games?