Reformat C when XP is already installed



Mackenrick
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
I rebuilt a computer and tried to install WinXP but it didn't load properly.
I get an "windows recovered from a error" message when windows loads. I want
to reformat C and start fresh but XP wont let me format C. I remember
reading somewhere how to do this but can't remember where. Can someone tell
me how to reformat C drive when WinXP is already loaded. Thank you. Mack
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MacKenrick

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options. You
can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be formatted to
ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you might
have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.


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Pegasus \(MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
various boot options when Windows is still more or less
operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.



"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qjr7a@> wrote in message
news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options. You
> can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be formatted to
> ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you might
> have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
> windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
>
>
>
> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options.
> You
> > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be formatted
> to
> > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you
> might
> > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
> > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> >
> >
> > --
> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >

i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have read...Put
the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never said
repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall. just
like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't very
specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i won't
waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's posts go
unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego maniac
will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their post
might get answered then.


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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
In all probability, the OP has tried to 'format c' from the Command Prompt
within Windows..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland


"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qjyxm@> wrote in message
news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
>> You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
>> boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
>> given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
>> various boot options when Windows is still more or less
>> operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
>>
>>
>>
>> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
>> news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>> >
>> > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options.
>> You
>> > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be formatted
>> to
>> > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you
>> might
>> > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
>> > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>> >
>
> i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have read...Put
> the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never said
> repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall. just
> like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
> needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't very
> specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i won't
> waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's posts go
> unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego maniac
> will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their post
> might get answered then.
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

Pegasus \(MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qjyxm@> wrote in message
news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> >
> >
> >
> > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > >
> > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options.
> > You
> > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be formatted
> > to
> > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you
> > might
> > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
> > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> > >
>
> i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have read...Put
> the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never said
> repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall. just
> like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
> needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't very
> specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i won't
> waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's posts go
> unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego maniac
> will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their post
> might get answered then.

You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
of them.

Mackenrick
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
"F8" .... THAT'S IT!!! Just couldn't remember that. I kept thinking F8 was
for getting into Safe Mode but forgot that if you do it during a CD boot with
the Windows CD you can get into the Setup. What I wanted to do was reformat
C and start over but when I just booted from the XP CD, it just launched
Windows. I forgot about the F8 Key.

Thank you all for the help. Mack
--
MacKenrick


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qjyxm@> wrote in message
> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > > >
> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options.
> > > You
> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be formatted
> > > to
> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you
> > > might
> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> > > >
> >
> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have read...Put
> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never said
> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall. just
> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't very
> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i won't
> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's posts go
> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego maniac
> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their post
> > might get answered then.
>
> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
> of them.
>
>
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > > >
> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> options.
> > > You
> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
> formatted
> > > to
> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you
> > > might
> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> > > >
> >
> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have read...Put
> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never said
> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall. just
> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't
> very
> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i won't
> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's posts
> go
> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego maniac
> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their post
> > might get answered then.
>
> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
> of them.

You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac because
of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be bogus
due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but assumed a
couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have no
problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit hasty
on the rest.


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PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We ALL get corrected.
Some just take it with more grace than others.

Maybe a "Sorry! You are correct!" would be appropriate here!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qkve2@> wrote in message
news:ZcCdndH1kKWsTzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
>> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
>> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>> >
>> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
>> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
>> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
>> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
>> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
>> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
>> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>> > > >
>> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
>> options.
>> > > You
>> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
>> formatted
>> > > to
>> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go. But...you
>> > > might
>> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you mean
>> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>> > > >
>> >
>> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have read...Put
>> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never said
>> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall. just
>> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
>> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't
>> very
>> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i won't
>> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's posts
>> go
>> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego maniac
>> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their post
>> > might get answered then.
>>
>> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
>> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
>> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
>> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
>> of them.
>
> You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac because
> of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be bogus
> due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but assumed a
> couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have no
> problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit hasty
> on the rest.
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Richard Urban Wrote:
> If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We ALL get
> corrected.
> Some just take it with more grace than others.
>
> Maybe a "Sorry! You are correct!" would be appropriate here!
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> news:ZcCdndH1kKWsTzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> >> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> >> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >> >
> >> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> >> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> >> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> >> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> >> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> >> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> >> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> >> options.
> >> > > You
> >> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
> >> formatted
> >> > > to
> >> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
> But...you
> >> > > might
> >> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you
> mean
> >> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have
> read...Put
> >> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never
> said
> >> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall.
> just
> >> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
> >> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't
> >> very
> >> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i
> won't
> >> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's
> posts
> >> go
> >> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego
> maniac
> >> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their
> post
> >> > might get answered then.
> >>
> >> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
> >> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
> >> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
> >> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
> >> of them.
> >
> > You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac
> because
> > of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be bogus
> > due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but assumed
> a
> > couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have no
> > problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit
> hasty
> > on the rest.
> >
> >
> > --
> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >

Peer review and stomping on someones answer is two different things. If
he would have said, you should have put (or), just letting you know, no
offense, whatever. But if you would have read carefully, you would have
seen that comments were made that i never said. Like doing a repair from
f8. Read his answer to mine carefully and you might see that. The person
who originally posted this got the point. He sugar coated my answer to
sound (techy) and then proceeded to make nonexistant corrections. And
who are YOU to tell anyone to apologize?? Maybe i should get one for
being OVER corrected? I missed putting the word (or) in, that's all i
did. I was told what i meant to write which was all rewritten, not just
corrected. I wrote it the way i wanted and if you can't accept that then
you get out of the "kitchen". To tell someone they should have written
their whole answer in someone elses way IS having to do with ego.


--
PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access

Pegasus \(MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qlppm@> wrote in message
news:HrSdnVY5-N8C9jPfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Richard Urban Wrote:
> > If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We ALL get
> > corrected.
> > Some just take it with more grace than others.
> >
> > Maybe a "Sorry! You are correct!" would be appropriate here!
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Urban
> >
> > If you knew as much as you think you know,
> > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >
> >
> > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > news:ZcCdndH1kKWsTzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > >
> > > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > >> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > >> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > >> >
> > >> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > >> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> > >> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> > >> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> > >> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> > >> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > >> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> > >> options.
> > >> > > You
> > >> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
> > >> formatted
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
> > But...you
> > >> > > might
> > >> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you
> > mean
> > >> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> > >> > > >
> > >> >
> > >> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have
> > read...Put
> > >> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never
> > said
> > >> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall.
> > just
> > >> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
> > >> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't
> > >> very
> > >> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i
> > won't
> > >> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's
> > posts
> > >> go
> > >> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego
> > maniac
> > >> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their
> > post
> > >> > might get answered then.
> > >>
> > >> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
> > >> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
> > >> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
> > >> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
> > >> of them.
> > >
> > > You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac
> > because
> > > of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be bogus
> > > due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but assumed
> > a
> > > couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have no
> > > problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit
> > hasty
> > > on the rest.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> > >
>
> Peer review and stomping on someones answer is two different things. If
> he would have said, you should have put (or), just letting you know, no
> offense, whatever. But if you would have read carefully, you would have
> seen that comments were made that i never said. Like doing a repair from
> f8. Read his answer to mine carefully and you might see that. The person
> who originally posted this got the point. He sugar coated my answer to
> sound (techy) and then proceeded to make nonexistant corrections. And
> who are YOU to tell anyone to apologize?? Maybe i should get one for
> being OVER corrected? I missed putting the word (or) in, that's all i
> did. I was told what i meant to write which was all rewritten, not just
> corrected. I wrote it the way i wanted and if you can't accept that then
> you get out of the "kitchen". To tell someone they should have written
> their whole answer in someone elses way IS having to do with ego.

I actually wrapped my comment very nicely by saying
"You probably meant to write", thus suggesting that you
knew exactly what you wanted to write but that somehow
the words got in the way. I could have written "Your advice
is incorrect", which is still polite but a lot more direct.

As Richard suggested: This is a discussion forum, and if
someone's advice is incorrect then he must expect an
appropriate reply. It's all part of the learning process. If
your tender ego takes offences at the phrase "You probably
meant to write" then this may not be the best forum for you.

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> news:HrSdnVY5-N8C9jPfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Richard Urban Wrote:
> > > If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We ALL get
> > > corrected.
> > > Some just take it with more grace than others.
> > >
> > > Maybe a "Sorry! You are correct!" would be appropriate here!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Richard Urban
> > >
> > > If you knew as much as you think you know,
> > > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> > >
> > >
> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > > news:ZcCdndH1kKWsTzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > > >
> > > > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > > >> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > > >> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> > > >> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> > > >> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> > > >> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> > > >> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> > > >> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> > > >> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> > > >> options.
> > > >> > > You
> > > >> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
> > > >> formatted
> > > >> > > to
> > > >> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
> > > But...you
> > > >> > > might
> > > >> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do
> you
> > > mean
> > > >> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --
> > > >> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup
> access
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have
> > > read...Put
> > > >> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never
> > > said
> > > >> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or
> reinstall.
> > > just
> > > >> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this
> but
> > > >> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person
> wasn't
> > > >> very
> > > >> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i
> > > won't
> > > >> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's
> > > posts
> > > >> go
> > > >> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego
> > > maniac
> > > >> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know
> their
> > > post
> > > >> > might get answered then.
> > > >>
> > > >> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the
> process
> > > >> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before
> they
> > > >> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
> > > >> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
> > > >> of them.
> > > >
> > > > You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac
> > > because
> > > > of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be
> bogus
> > > > due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but
> assumed
> > > a
> > > > couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have
> no
> > > > problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit
> > > hasty
> > > > on the rest.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> > > >
> >
> > Peer review and stomping on someones answer is two different things.
> If
> > he would have said, you should have put (or), just letting you know,
> no
> > offense, whatever. But if you would have read carefully, you would
> have
> > seen that comments were made that i never said. Like doing a repair
> from
> > f8. Read his answer to mine carefully and you might see that. The
> person
> > who originally posted this got the point. He sugar coated my answer
> to
> > sound (techy) and then proceeded to make nonexistant corrections. And
> > who are YOU to tell anyone to apologize?? Maybe i should get one for
> > being OVER corrected? I missed putting the word (or) in, that's all i
> > did. I was told what i meant to write which was all rewritten, not
> just
> > corrected. I wrote it the way i wanted and if you can't accept that
> then
> > you get out of the "kitchen". To tell someone they should have
> written
> > their whole answer in someone elses way IS having to do with ego.
>
> I actually wrapped my comment very nicely by saying
> "You probably meant to write", thus suggesting that you
> knew exactly what you wanted to write but that somehow
> the words got in the way. I could have written "Your advice
> is incorrect", which is still polite but a lot more direct.
>
> As Richard suggested: This is a discussion forum, and if
> someone's advice is incorrect then he must expect an
> appropriate reply. It's all part of the learning process. If
> your tender ego takes offences at the phrase "You probably
> meant to write" then this may not be the best forum for you.

That's ok , I think what you meant to write is, I am sorry for
suggesting you meant to write your whole answer differently than you
did and making incorrect corrections to your reply. What I should have
done was read the answer correctly and simply pointed out that you
missed the word (or) in your answer. I am sorry for stating that F8
won't bring you to a repair option when it was clear you didn't state
that.


--
PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
For the love of.....!!!

From your post, split apart for clarity!

1. Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options.

100% correct


2. You can do a repair or reinstall.

Not from the menu you arrive at when you tap F8


3. Your drive should already be formatted to ntfs

Why would you think that? The O/P said nothing about the way his hard drive
was formatted. A great assumption on your part.


4. and doing a clean install would be the way to go.

Maybe yes - maybe no, but he is not going to be able to do it from the F8
menu!


5. But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well.

Correct, he may have!


6. What do you mean windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.

You can't format the Windows partition or drive while you are booted up into
Windows. That is why Windows won't let him!


So, you see - the O/P would never would have had a chance to install clean,
or reinstall, his operating system based upon your instruction to "tap the
f8 key" to get into options.

Whether it was just an omission on your part or ignorance, I don't know - or
really care. The fact is that your answer was WRONG! Admit the fact and get
on with your life.




--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qlppm@> wrote in message
news:HrSdnVY5-N8C9jPfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Richard Urban Wrote:
>> If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We ALL get
>> corrected.
>> Some just take it with more grace than others.
>>
>> Maybe a "Sorry! You are correct!" would be appropriate here!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>>
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
>> news:ZcCdndH1kKWsTzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>> >
>> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
>> >> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
>> >> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
>> >> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
>> >> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
>> >> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
>> >> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
>> >> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
>> >> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
>> >> options.
>> >> > > You
>> >> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
>> >> formatted
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
>> But...you
>> >> > > might
>> >> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you
>> mean
>> >> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>> >> > > >
>> >> >
>> >> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have
>> read...Put
>> >> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never
>> said
>> >> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or reinstall.
>> just
>> >> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this but
>> >> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person wasn't
>> >> very
>> >> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i
>> won't
>> >> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's
>> posts
>> >> go
>> >> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego
>> maniac
>> >> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know their
>> post
>> >> > might get answered then.
>> >>
>> >> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
>> >> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
>> >> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
>> >> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
>> >> of them.
>> >
>> > You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac
>> because
>> > of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be bogus
>> > due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but assumed
>> a
>> > couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have no
>> > problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit
>> hasty
>> > on the rest.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>> >
>
> Peer review and stomping on someones answer is two different things. If
> he would have said, you should have put (or), just letting you know, no
> offense, whatever. But if you would have read carefully, you would have
> seen that comments were made that i never said. Like doing a repair from
> f8. Read his answer to mine carefully and you might see that. The person
> who originally posted this got the point. He sugar coated my answer to
> sound (techy) and then proceeded to make nonexistant corrections. And
> who are YOU to tell anyone to apologize?? Maybe i should get one for
> being OVER corrected? I missed putting the word (or) in, that's all i
> did. I was told what i meant to write which was all rewritten, not just
> corrected. I wrote it the way i wanted and if you can't accept that then
> you get out of the "kitchen". To tell someone they should have written
> their whole answer in someone elses way IS having to do with ego.
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Richard Urban Wrote:
> For the love of.....!!!
>
> From your post, split apart for clarity!
>
> 1. Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options.
>
> 100% correct
>
>
> 2. You can do a repair or reinstall.
>
> Not from the menu you arrive at when you tap F8
>
>
> 3. Your drive should already be formatted to ntfs
>
> Why would you think that? The O/P said nothing about the way his hard
> drive
> was formatted. A great assumption on your part.
>
>
> 4. and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
>
> Maybe yes - maybe no, but he is not going to be able to do it from the
> F8
> menu!
>
>
> 5. But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well.
>
> Correct, he may have!
>
>
> 6. What do you mean windows won't let you? just a bit more specific
> please.
>
> You can't format the Windows partition or drive while you are booted up
> into
> Windows. That is why Windows won't let him!
>
>
> So, you see - the O/P would never would have had a chance to install
> clean,
> or reinstall, his operating system based upon your instruction to "tap
> the
> f8 key" to get into options.
>
> Whether it was just an omission on your part or ignorance, I don't know
> - or
> really care. The fact is that your answer was WRONG! Admit the fact and
> get
> on with your life.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> news:HrSdnVY5-N8C9jPfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Richard Urban Wrote:
> >> If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. We ALL get
> >> corrected.
> >> Some just take it with more grace than others.
> >>
> >> Maybe a "Sorry! You are correct!" would be appropriate here!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >>
> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >>
> >>
> >> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> >> news:ZcCdndH1kKWsTzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >> >
> >> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> >> >> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> >> >> news:8YGdnU0H4ulRsDDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pegasus \(MVP\) Wrote:
> >> >> > > You probably meant to write "Put the WinXP CD in, then
> >> >> > > boot from this CD and allow the disk to be formatted when
> >> >> > > given the opportunity". Pressing F8 is used to select the
> >> >> > > various boot options when Windows is still more or less
> >> >> > > operative. It cannot be used to start a repair process.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:TqOdnaoFs_00mzDfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> >> >> options.
> >> >> > > You
> >> >> > > > can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
> >> >> formatted
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > > ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
> >> But...you
> >> >> > > might
> >> >> > > > have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do you
> >> mean
> >> >> > > > windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup
> access
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i agree that i flubbed the first sentence, it should have
> >> read...Put
> >> >> > the xp cd in, reboot or tap f8 to go to other options. I never
> >> said
> >> >> > repair from f8, i simply meant you can do a repair or
> reinstall.
> >> just
> >> >> > like it said. Since this person was already familiar with this
> but
> >> >> > needed a quick reminder, i gave just that. Also this person
> wasn't
> >> >> very
> >> >> > specific about why winxp won't allow him\her to reformat, so i
> >> won't
> >> >> > waste time on specifics until i know more. Also, some people's
> >> posts
> >> >> go
> >> >> > unanswered, and i give it my best guess until i know some ego
> >> maniac
> >> >> > will come along and try to correct me. But at least i know
> their
> >> post
> >> >> > might get answered then.
> >> >>
> >> >> You call it "ego-maniac". I call it peer review. It's the process
> >> >> that ensures that errors and oversights are corrected before they
> >> >> can cause too much confusion. My own replies have often been
> >> >> subject to this process, and I was glad about each and every one
> >> >> of them.
> >> >
> >> > You misunderstand. I was not referring to you as the ego maniac
> >> because
> >> > of the first line error, but you assume my whole answer must be
> bogus
> >> > due to a mistake.You found a mistake in my first sentence but
> assumed
> >> a
> >> > couple of others that were not. I admitted my first error, i have
> no
> >> > problem with that. I err all the time. But i feel you were a bit
> >> hasty
> >> > on the rest.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >> >
> >
> > Peer review and stomping on someones answer is two different things.
> If
> > he would have said, you should have put (or), just letting you know,
> no
> > offense, whatever. But if you would have read carefully, you would
> have
> > seen that comments were made that i never said. Like doing a repair
> from
> > f8. Read his answer to mine carefully and you might see that. The
> person
> > who originally posted this got the point. He sugar coated my answer
> to
> > sound (techy) and then proceeded to make nonexistant corrections. And
> > who are YOU to tell anyone to apologize?? Maybe i should get one for
> > being OVER corrected? I missed putting the word (or) in, that's all i
> > did. I was told what i meant to write which was all rewritten, not
> just
> > corrected. I wrote it the way i wanted and if you can't accept that
> then
> > you get out of the "kitchen". To tell someone they should have
> written
> > their whole answer in someone elses way IS having to do with ego.
> >
> >
> > --
> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >

Would you please mind your own business?????? You pompous jerk! The
person just wanted to be refreshed on what options he\she had! Don't
you get it???? 99% of winxp partitions are NTFS!!! If you READ the
#%$&^&!! post right i have put in cd, REBOOT!!!! This is what i mean,
if you correct someone,,, do it right!!! ONCE AGAIN...I never said you
could do a repair from tapping F8!!!!!! Windows might not have let them
reformat when booting from cd!!!! Once again YOU assume they did it from
winxp desktop!!And actually in an OEM, you DO have to tap F8 to get to
fresh install or repair!! And Guess what,,,I have XPpro, not oem, I set
to boot from cd and all it did was go to windows!! I tapped F8 and got
to the repair console and fresh install\format options!! You think
maybe this person has the same problem as they stated??? Why do i
bother? You'll just read it wrong again and post something else! read
the users reply!


"F8" .... THAT'S IT!!! Just couldn't remember that. I kept thinking F8
was
for getting into Safe Mode but forgot that if you do it during a CD
boot with
the Windows CD you can get into the Setup. What I wanted to do was
reformat
C and start over but when I just booted from the XP CD, it just
launched
Windows. I forgot about the F8 Key.


--
PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
PCDaddy

The OP needed info on how to clean install, and your reply did not answer
the OP's question very clearly.. Pegasus corrected you quite nicely, and yet
you took offence, considering that you had been 'stomped'.. c'est la vie..
c'est la guerre..

Re. you last 'shot'..

I would agree that 99% of corporate machines are formatted NTFS, but this is
not true of 'home' machines necessarily.. Quote from you "Your drive should
already be formatted to
ntfs...... ", an assumption at best, and then you continued with the obvious
"and doing a clean install would be the way to go.", the OP already having
stated the requirement to start over..

In you first answer, there was no mention of rebooting.. quote from you "Put
the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options."


Quoting from you again.. " Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should
get to the options. You can do a repair or reinstall.".. if this isn't a
suggestion that a repair install can be executed by tapping F8, then I don't
know what is..


If you have been in support for a while, especially home users, you will
know that many try to format from the Command Prompt in Windows XP.. this
may be regarded as an assumption in 'all' cases, but very close to what
happens most times.. you see it posted in this newsgroup quite often.. so
your " But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well." had
some truth in it.. reading between the lines and knowing that many try to
format c: from within the OS, you wouldn't really have to ask for more..
however, there is nothing like getting confirmation, I guess..

The OP did not initially state whether the cd being used was OEM MS or a
vendor recovery type.. in the case of the latter, I believe that F10 is the
key of preference..

Your use of the term 'ego maniac' suggests to me (and others, it would seem)
that you do not like to be corrected, yet that is how we all learn.. further
statements like "He sugar coated my answer to sound (techy) and then
proceeded to make nonexistant corrections." re-inforce the belief that you
do not take kindly to what essentially was constructive criticism.. I am
always grateful for corrections to anything that I have stated, as it is not
my intention to deliberately mislead anybody.. I keep notes in MS OneNote
and adjust any pre-written text accordingly..

Maybe you should consider something similar..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland


>> >
>
> Would you please mind your own business?????? You pompous jerk! The
> person just wanted to be refreshed on what options he\she had! Don't
> you get it???? 99% of winxp partitions are NTFS!!! If you READ the
> #%$&^&!! post right i have put in cd, REBOOT!!!! This is what i mean,
> if you correct someone,,, do it right!!! ONCE AGAIN...I never said you
> could do a repair from tapping F8!!!!!! Windows might not have let them
> reformat when booting from cd!!!! Once again YOU assume they did it from
> winxp desktop!!And actually in an OEM, you DO have to tap F8 to get to
> fresh install or repair!! And Guess what,,,I have XPpro, not oem, I set
> to boot from cd and all it did was go to windows!! I tapped F8 and got
> to the repair console and fresh install\format options!! You think
> maybe this person has the same problem as they stated??? Why do i
> bother? You'll just read it wrong again and post something else! read
> the users reply!
>
>
> "F8" .... THAT'S IT!!! Just couldn't remember that. I kept thinking F8
> was
> for getting into Safe Mode but forgot that if you do it during a CD
> boot with
> the Windows CD you can get into the Setup. What I wanted to do was
> reformat
> C and start over but when I just booted from the XP CD, it just
> launched
> Windows. I forgot about the F8 Key.
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\) Wrote:
> PCDaddy
>
> The OP needed info on how to clean install, and your reply did not
> answer
> the OP's question very clearly.. Pegasus corrected you quite nicely,
> and yet
> you took offence, considering that you had been 'stomped'.. c'est la
> vie..
> c'est la guerre..
>
> Re. you last 'shot'..
>
> I would agree that 99% of corporate machines are formatted NTFS, but
> this is
> not true of 'home' machines necessarily.. Quote from you "Your drive
> should
> already be formatted to
> ntfs...... ", an assumption at best, and then you continued with the
> obvious
> "and doing a clean install would be the way to go.", the OP already
> having
> stated the requirement to start over..
>
> In you first answer, there was no mention of rebooting.. quote from you
> "Put
> the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options."
>
>
> Quoting from you again.. " Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you
> should
> get to the options. You can do a repair or reinstall.".. if this isn't
> a
> suggestion that a repair install can be executed by tapping F8, then I
> don't
> know what is..
>
>
> If you have been in support for a while, especially home users, you
> will
> know that many try to format from the Command Prompt in Windows XP..
> this
> may be regarded as an assumption in 'all' cases, but very close to what
> happens most times.. you see it posted in this newsgroup quite often..
> so
> your " But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well."
> had
> some truth in it.. reading between the lines and knowing that many try
> to
> format c: from within the OS, you wouldn't really have to ask for
> more..
> however, there is nothing like getting confirmation, I guess..
>
> The OP did not initially state whether the cd being used was OEM MS or
> a
> vendor recovery type.. in the case of the latter, I believe that F10 is
> the
> key of preference..
>
> Your use of the term 'ego maniac' suggests to me (and others, it would
> seem)
> that you do not like to be corrected, yet that is how we all learn..
> further
> statements like "He sugar coated my answer to sound (techy) and then
> proceeded to make nonexistant corrections." re-inforce the belief that
> you
> do not take kindly to what essentially was constructive criticism.. I
> am
> always grateful for corrections to anything that I have stated, as it
> is not
> my intention to deliberately mislead anybody.. I keep notes in MS
> OneNote
> and adjust any pre-written text accordingly..
>
> Maybe you should consider something similar..
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
> "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have
> kept
> it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
>
>
> >> >
> >
> > Would you please mind your own business?????? You pompous jerk! The
> > person just wanted to be refreshed on what options he\she had! Don't
> > you get it???? 99% of winxp partitions are NTFS!!! If you READ the
> > #%$&^&!! post right i have put in cd, REBOOT!!!! This is what i mean,
> > if you correct someone,,, do it right!!! ONCE AGAIN...I never said
> you
> > could do a repair from tapping F8!!!!!! Windows might not have let
> them
> > reformat when booting from cd!!!! Once again YOU assume they did it
> from
> > winxp desktop!!And actually in an OEM, you DO have to tap F8 to get
> to
> > fresh install or repair!! And Guess what,,,I have XPpro, not oem, I
> set
> > to boot from cd and all it did was go to windows!! I tapped F8 and
> got
> > to the repair console and fresh install\format options!! You think
> > maybe this person has the same problem as they stated??? Why do i
> > bother? You'll just read it wrong again and post something else! read
> > the users reply!
> >
> >
> > "F8" .... THAT'S IT!!! Just couldn't remember that. I kept thinking
> F8
> > was
> > for getting into Safe Mode but forgot that if you do it during a CD
> > boot with
> > the Windows CD you can get into the Setup. What I wanted to do was
> > reformat
> > C and start over but when I just booted from the XP CD, it just
> > launched
> > Windows. I forgot about the F8 Key.
> >
> >
> > --
> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >

First off i would like to say, even though you don't agree with me you
at least sound civil about it. Thank you. Like I said before, the
person just wanted to be reinformed how to format c and i just gave him
the very basics to refresh his memory. My answer wasn't intended to be
long or technical. I don't know where this "there is no reboot in my
sentence comes from" honestly, this is my original post, no changes. I
copied and pasted it directly to here....

Put the xp cd in, reboot, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
options. You can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
formatted to ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do
you mean windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.


I admit i should have put an or after the reboot. I made short
statements to basic options is all. I can take criticism but i have
another post running around where people twisted everything i wrote
around like they never even read it and everyone seemed to jump in. I
admit i could be a bit more specific and separative but some people
just like to jump on the band wagon simply to beat down someone else,
that's what i don't like. I will even go as far to say i was a bit more
defensive to pegasus due to this. Like rich urban or whatever, just
likes to jump in to put his two cents in telling people to apologize?
Or his post to everyone as to what he expects of peole who post
questions? People like that hit a nerve. When you think you are that
grand, you should look back and remember, this is a public site, not
Richard's review. Once again defensive against pegasus in part from
things like this. I will apologize to pegasus if he truly didn't mean
to railroad my answer but understand, after so many do it, just to do
it, one gets defensive. I don't like to argue and this is a pc site not
oprah. So i will quit this childish crap and move on.


--
PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
You have to understand this. If anyone gives a wrong, or ambiguous answer -
they are likely to be challenged.

How would you like it if you did something based upon what you read here -
and it trashed your system? Would you be happy if the guy who you listened
to had an attitude after others told him he was wrong?

It is more important to give a correct answer than it is to ask a proper
question! Granted, your answer was not incorrect - just incomplete, and I
therefore apologize for pointing out the inadequacies of the answer.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1qncty@> wrote in message
news:coadnU2enfdxCzLfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\) Wrote:
>> PCDaddy
>>
>> The OP needed info on how to clean install, and your reply did not
>> answer
>> the OP's question very clearly.. Pegasus corrected you quite nicely,
>> and yet
>> you took offence, considering that you had been 'stomped'.. c'est la
>> vie..
>> c'est la guerre..
>>
>> Re. you last 'shot'..
>>
>> I would agree that 99% of corporate machines are formatted NTFS, but
>> this is
>> not true of 'home' machines necessarily.. Quote from you "Your drive
>> should
>> already be formatted to
>> ntfs...... ", an assumption at best, and then you continued with the
>> obvious
>> "and doing a clean install would be the way to go.", the OP already
>> having
>> stated the requirement to start over..
>>
>> In you first answer, there was no mention of rebooting.. quote from you
>> "Put
>> the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options."
>>
>>
>> Quoting from you again.. " Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you
>> should
>> get to the options. You can do a repair or reinstall.".. if this isn't
>> a
>> suggestion that a repair install can be executed by tapping F8, then I
>> don't
>> know what is..
>>
>>
>> If you have been in support for a while, especially home users, you
>> will
>> know that many try to format from the Command Prompt in Windows XP..
>> this
>> may be regarded as an assumption in 'all' cases, but very close to what
>> happens most times.. you see it posted in this newsgroup quite often..
>> so
>> your " But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well."
>> had
>> some truth in it.. reading between the lines and knowing that many try
>> to
>> format c: from within the OS, you wouldn't really have to ask for
>> more..
>> however, there is nothing like getting confirmation, I guess..
>>
>> The OP did not initially state whether the cd being used was OEM MS or
>> a
>> vendor recovery type.. in the case of the latter, I believe that F10 is
>> the
>> key of preference..
>>
>> Your use of the term 'ego maniac' suggests to me (and others, it would
>> seem)
>> that you do not like to be corrected, yet that is how we all learn..
>> further
>> statements like "He sugar coated my answer to sound (techy) and then
>> proceeded to make nonexistant corrections." re-inforce the belief that
>> you
>> do not take kindly to what essentially was constructive criticism.. I
>> am
>> always grateful for corrections to anything that I have stated, as it
>> is not
>> my intention to deliberately mislead anybody.. I keep notes in MS
>> OneNote
>> and adjust any pre-written text accordingly..
>>
>> Maybe you should consider something similar..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>> "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have
>> kept
>> it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
>>
>>
>> >> >
>> >
>> > Would you please mind your own business?????? You pompous jerk! The
>> > person just wanted to be refreshed on what options he\she had! Don't
>> > you get it???? 99% of winxp partitions are NTFS!!! If you READ the
>> > #%$&^&!! post right i have put in cd, REBOOT!!!! This is what i mean,
>> > if you correct someone,,, do it right!!! ONCE AGAIN...I never said
>> you
>> > could do a repair from tapping F8!!!!!! Windows might not have let
>> them
>> > reformat when booting from cd!!!! Once again YOU assume they did it
>> from
>> > winxp desktop!!And actually in an OEM, you DO have to tap F8 to get
>> to
>> > fresh install or repair!! And Guess what,,,I have XPpro, not oem, I
>> set
>> > to boot from cd and all it did was go to windows!! I tapped F8 and
>> got
>> > to the repair console and fresh install\format options!! You think
>> > maybe this person has the same problem as they stated??? Why do i
>> > bother? You'll just read it wrong again and post something else! read
>> > the users reply!
>> >
>> >
>> > "F8" .... THAT'S IT!!! Just couldn't remember that. I kept thinking
>> F8
>> > was
>> > for getting into Safe Mode but forgot that if you do it during a CD
>> > boot with
>> > the Windows CD you can get into the Setup. What I wanted to do was
>> > reformat
>> > C and start over but when I just booted from the XP CD, it just
>> > launched
>> > Windows. I forgot about the F8 Key.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>> >
>
> First off i would like to say, even though you don't agree with me you
> at least sound civil about it. Thank you. Like I said before, the
> person just wanted to be reinformed how to format c and i just gave him
> the very basics to refresh his memory. My answer wasn't intended to be
> long or technical. I don't know where this "there is no reboot in my
> sentence comes from" honestly, this is my original post, no changes. I
> copied and pasted it directly to here....
>
> Put the xp cd in, reboot, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> options. You can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already be
> formatted to ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
> But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well. What do
> you mean windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
>
>
> I admit i should have put an or after the reboot. I made short
> statements to basic options is all. I can take criticism but i have
> another post running around where people twisted everything i wrote
> around like they never even read it and everyone seemed to jump in. I
> admit i could be a bit more specific and separative but some people
> just like to jump on the band wagon simply to beat down someone else,
> that's what i don't like. I will even go as far to say i was a bit more
> defensive to pegasus due to this. Like rich urban or whatever, just
> likes to jump in to put his two cents in telling people to apologize?
> Or his post to everyone as to what he expects of peole who post
> questions? People like that hit a nerve. When you think you are that
> grand, you should look back and remember, this is a public site, not
> Richard's review. Once again defensive against pegasus in part from
> things like this. I will apologize to pegasus if he truly didn't mean
> to railroad my answer but understand, after so many do it, just to do
> it, one gets defensive. I don't like to argue and this is a pc site not
> oprah. So i will quit this childish crap and move on.
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:55 AM
Richard Urban Wrote:
> You have to understand this. If anyone gives a wrong, or ambiguous
> answer -
> they are likely to be challenged.
>
> How would you like it if you did something based upon what you read
> here -
> and it trashed your system? Would you be happy if the guy who you
> listened
> to had an attitude after others told him he was wrong?
>
> It is more important to give a correct answer than it is to ask a
> proper
> question! Granted, your answer was not incorrect - just incomplete, and
> I
> therefore apologize for pointing out the inadequacies of the answer.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "PCDaddy" wrote in message
> news:coadnU2enfdxCzLfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
> >
> > Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\) Wrote:
> >> PCDaddy
> >>
> >> The OP needed info on how to clean install, and your reply did not
> >> answer
> >> the OP's question very clearly.. Pegasus corrected you quite nicely,
> >> and yet
> >> you took offence, considering that you had been 'stomped'.. c'est la
> >> vie..
> >> c'est la guerre..
> >>
> >> Re. you last 'shot'..
> >>
> >> I would agree that 99% of corporate machines are formatted NTFS, but
> >> this is
> >> not true of 'home' machines necessarily.. Quote from you "Your drive
> >> should
> >> already be formatted to
> >> ntfs...... ", an assumption at best, and then you continued with the
> >> obvious
> >> "and doing a clean install would be the way to go.", the OP already
> >> having
> >> stated the requirement to start over..
> >>
> >> In you first answer, there was no mention of rebooting.. quote from
> you
> >> "Put
> >> the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you should get to the options."
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting from you again.. " Put the xp cd in, tap the f8 key and you
> >> should
> >> get to the options. You can do a repair or reinstall.".. if this
> isn't
> >> a
> >> suggestion that a repair install can be executed by tapping F8, then
> I
> >> don't
> >> know what is..
> >>
> >>
> >> If you have been in support for a while, especially home users, you
> >> will
> >> know that many try to format from the Command Prompt in Windows XP..
> >> this
> >> may be regarded as an assumption in 'all' cases, but very close to
> what
> >> happens most times.. you see it posted in this newsgroup quite
> often..
> >> so
> >> your " But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as
> well."
> >> had
> >> some truth in it.. reading between the lines and knowing that many
> try
> >> to
> >> format c: from within the OS, you wouldn't really have to ask for
> >> more..
> >> however, there is nothing like getting confirmation, I guess..
> >>
> >> The OP did not initially state whether the cd being used was OEM MS
> or
> >> a
> >> vendor recovery type.. in the case of the latter, I believe that F10
> is
> >> the
> >> key of preference..
> >>
> >> Your use of the term 'ego maniac' suggests to me (and others, it
> would
> >> seem)
> >> that you do not like to be corrected, yet that is how we all learn..
> >> further
> >> statements like "He sugar coated my answer to sound (techy) and then
> >> proceeded to make nonexistant corrections." re-inforce the belief
> that
> >> you
> >> do not take kindly to what essentially was constructive criticism..
> I
> >> am
> >> always grateful for corrections to anything that I have stated, as
> it
> >> is not
> >> my intention to deliberately mislead anybody.. I keep notes in MS
> >> OneNote
> >> and adjust any pre-written text accordingly..
> >>
> >> Maybe you should consider something similar..
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mike Hall
> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> "If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would
> have
> >> kept
> >> it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
> >>
> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Would you please mind your own business?????? You pompous jerk!
> The
> >> > person just wanted to be refreshed on what options he\she had!
> Don't
> >> > you get it???? 99% of winxp partitions are NTFS!!! If you READ the
> >> > #%$&^&!! post right i have put in cd, REBOOT!!!! This is what i
> mean,
> >> > if you correct someone,,, do it right!!! ONCE AGAIN...I never said
> >> you
> >> > could do a repair from tapping F8!!!!!! Windows might not have let
> >> them
> >> > reformat when booting from cd!!!! Once again YOU assume they did
> it
> >> from
> >> > winxp desktop!!And actually in an OEM, you DO have to tap F8 to
> get
> >> to
> >> > fresh install or repair!! And Guess what,,,I have XPpro, not oem,
> I
> >> set
> >> > to boot from cd and all it did was go to windows!! I tapped F8 and
> >> got
> >> > to the repair console and fresh install\format options!! You think
> >> > maybe this person has the same problem as they stated??? Why do i
> >> > bother? You'll just read it wrong again and post something else!
> read
> >> > the users reply!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "F8" .... THAT'S IT!!! Just couldn't remember that. I kept
> thinking
> >> F8
> >> > was
> >> > for getting into Safe Mode but forgot that if you do it during a
> CD
> >> > boot with
> >> > the Windows CD you can get into the Setup. What I wanted to do was
> >> > reformat
> >> > C and start over but when I just booted from the XP CD, it just
> >> > launched
> >> > Windows. I forgot about the F8 Key.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >> >
> >
> > First off i would like to say, even though you don't agree with me
> you
> > at least sound civil about it. Thank you. Like I said before, the
> > person just wanted to be reinformed how to format c and i just gave
> him
> > the very basics to refresh his memory. My answer wasn't intended to
> be
> > long or technical. I don't know where this "there is no reboot in my
> > sentence comes from" honestly, this is my original post, no changes.
> I
> > copied and pasted it directly to here....
> >
> > Put the xp cd in, reboot, tap the f8 key and you should get to the
> > options. You can do a repair or reinstall. Your drive should already
> be
> > formatted to ntfs and doing a clean install would be the way to go.
> > But...you might have other issues with your hard drive as well. What
> do
> > you mean windows won't let you? just a bit more specific please.
> >
> >
> > I admit i should have put an or after the reboot. I made short
> > statements to basic options is all. I can take criticism but i have
> > another post running around where people twisted everything i wrote
> > around like they never even read it and everyone seemed to jump in. I
> > admit i could be a bit more specific and separative but some people
> > just like to jump on the band wagon simply to beat down someone else,
> > that's what i don't like. I will even go as far to say i was a bit
> more
> > defensive to pegasus due to this. Like rich urban or whatever, just
> > likes to jump in to put his two cents in telling people to apologize?
> > Or his post to everyone as to what he expects of peole who post
> > questions? People like that hit a nerve. When you think you are that
> > grand, you should look back and remember, this is a public site, not
> > Richard's review. Once again defensive against pegasus in part from
> > things like this. I will apologize to pegasus if he truly didn't mean
> > to railroad my answer but understand, after so many do it, just to do
> > it, one gets defensive. I don't like to argue and this is a pc site
> not
> > oprah. So i will quit this childish crap and move on.
> >
> >
> > --
> > PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
> >


I prefer peace over war and therefore apologize as well. I'm sure some
understand that there are many who simply like to join in on a "post"
attack and not simply to give advice or to nicely point out a problem.
I will not assume otherwise unless it is quite clear someone is just
being a jerk. I would gratefully take criticism and please continue to
do so. Looking back, i shouldn't have assumed pegasus was just doing
this to do it.


--
PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access


Reformat C when XP is already installed