Boot Up problem



beachnutt
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the final click
sound before the monitor lights up and the light on the front just stays
light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the the temp
of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water cooling system) does
this sound like the processor? I have no way to check it so I'm guessing so
I can have them replace it. The AMD 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to
be ok so far.

Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
AMD 2800+ -CPU
6600GT AGP -vid card
420w -PS
win. XP Pro
EXOS AL water cooling
36g Raptor O/S Drive

Thanks

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the exact
problem.
If you built this machine yourself, let us know.


"beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the final
click
> sound before the monitor lights up and the light on the front just stays
> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the the
temp
> of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water cooling system)
does
> this sound like the processor? I have no way to check it so I'm guessing
so
> I can have them replace it. The AMD 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed
to
> be ok so far.
>
> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
> AMD 2800+ -CPU
> 6600GT AGP -vid card
> 420w -PS
> win. XP Pro
> EXOS AL water cooling
> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>
> Thanks
>
>

beachnutt
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It has dual
Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the problem
"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
> A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the exact
> problem.
> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
>
>
> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the final
> click
>> sound before the monitor lights up and the light on the front just
>> stays
>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the the
> temp
>> of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water cooling system)
> does
>> this sound like the processor? I have no way to check it so I'm guessing
> so
>> I can have them replace it. The AMD 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed
> to
>> be ok so far.
>>
>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
>> 420w -PS
>> win. XP Pro
>> EXOS AL water cooling
>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
Sorry I misinterpreted part of your post.
I would not necessarily suspect the BIOS at this time if the battery is not
old and you have not done anything to the CMOS. I would wonder about the
motherboard or possibly the processor. If the computer is nonfunctional, it
is hard to diagnose the actual problem without a swap machine, another CPU,
etc.

beachnutt wrote:
> Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It has
> dual Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the problem
> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
> news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
>> A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the exact
>> problem.
>> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
>>
>>
>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
>>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the
>>> final click sound before the monitor lights up and the light on
>>> the front just stays
>>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the
>>> the temp of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water
>>> cooling system) does this sound like the processor? I have no way
>>> to check it so I'm guessing so I can have them replace it. The AMD
>>> 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to be ok so far.
>>>
>>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
>>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
>>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
>>> 420w -PS
>>> win. XP Pro
>>> EXOS AL water cooling
>>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>>>
>>> Thanks

beachnutt
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
my kid just told me he turned up the settings in the CMOS,, the CPU power
up 1 setting and the AGP power up 1 setting trying to get the pc to go
faster for his game, and was afraid to tell me. not sure what that means
buy turning it up 1 he said the multiplyer too max and it wasn't fast
enough



"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
news:u$CHd0$WFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Sorry I misinterpreted part of your post.
> I would not necessarily suspect the BIOS at this time if the battery is
> not
> old and you have not done anything to the CMOS. I would wonder about the
> motherboard or possibly the processor. If the computer is nonfunctional,
> it
> is hard to diagnose the actual problem without a swap machine, another
> CPU,
> etc.
>
> beachnutt wrote:
>> Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It has
>> dual Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the problem
>> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
>> news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
>>> A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the exact
>>> problem.
>>> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
>>>
>>>
>>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
>>>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the
>>>> final click sound before the monitor lights up and the light on
>>>> the front just stays
>>>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the
>>>> the temp of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water
>>>> cooling system) does this sound like the processor? I have no way
>>>> to check it so I'm guessing so I can have them replace it. The AMD
>>>> 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to be ok so far.
>>>>
>>>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
>>>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
>>>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
>>>> 420w -PS
>>>> win. XP Pro
>>>> EXOS AL water cooling
>>>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>
>
>

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
So your kid tried to overclock the computer and screwed it up. Now you need
the services of an expert. Good luck. Many of the really fine techs I know
have no knowledge of all when it comes to overclocking!

Search on the term in Google and visit some of the web sites that deal with
it.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:P%Pie.5150$WG.2707@attbi_s22...
> my kid just told me he turned up the settings in the CMOS,, the CPU power
> up 1 setting and the AGP power up 1 setting trying to get the pc to go
> faster for his game, and was afraid to tell me. not sure what that
> means buy turning it up 1 he said the multiplyer too max and it wasn't
> fast enough
>
>
>
> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
> news:u$CHd0$WFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry I misinterpreted part of your post.
>> I would not necessarily suspect the BIOS at this time if the battery is
>> not
>> old and you have not done anything to the CMOS. I would wonder about the
>> motherboard or possibly the processor. If the computer is nonfunctional,
>> it
>> is hard to diagnose the actual problem without a swap machine, another
>> CPU,
>> etc.
>>
>> beachnutt wrote:
>>> Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It has
>>> dual Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the problem
>>> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
>>>> A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the exact
>>>> problem.
>>>> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
>>>>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the
>>>>> final click sound before the monitor lights up and the light on
>>>>> the front just stays
>>>>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the
>>>>> the temp of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water
>>>>> cooling system) does this sound like the processor? I have no way
>>>>> to check it so I'm guessing so I can have them replace it. The AMD
>>>>> 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to be ok so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
>>>>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
>>>>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
>>>>> 420w -PS
>>>>> win. XP Pro
>>>>> EXOS AL water cooling
>>>>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>
>

V Green
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
To the O.P.:

Do you still have your motherboard manual?

If so, look for the part that describes how to
clear the CMOS by using a jumper on the motherboard.

Do this and see if it boots up.

If it doesn't, then your kid fried something.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OHIdiuAXFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> So your kid tried to overclock the computer and screwed it up. Now you
need
> the services of an expert. Good luck. Many of the really fine techs I know
> have no knowledge of all when it comes to overclocking!
>
> Search on the term in Google and visit some of the web sites that deal
with
> it.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:P%Pie.5150$WG.2707@attbi_s22...
> > my kid just told me he turned up the settings in the CMOS,, the CPU
power
> > up 1 setting and the AGP power up 1 setting trying to get the pc to go
> > faster for his game, and was afraid to tell me. not sure what that
> > means buy turning it up 1 he said the multiplyer too max and it
wasn't
> > fast enough
> >
> >
> >
> > "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
> > news:u$CHd0$WFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Sorry I misinterpreted part of your post.
> >> I would not necessarily suspect the BIOS at this time if the battery is
> >> not
> >> old and you have not done anything to the CMOS. I would wonder about
the
> >> motherboard or possibly the processor. If the computer is
nonfunctional,
> >> it
> >> is hard to diagnose the actual problem without a swap machine, another
> >> CPU,
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> beachnutt wrote:
> >>> Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It has
> >>> dual Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the problem
> >>> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >>>> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
> >>>> A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the exact
> >>>> problem.
> >>>> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
> >>>>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the
> >>>>> final click sound before the monitor lights up and the light on
> >>>>> the front just stays
> >>>>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the
> >>>>> the temp of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water
> >>>>> cooling system) does this sound like the processor? I have no way
> >>>>> to check it so I'm guessing so I can have them replace it. The AMD
> >>>>> 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to be ok so far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
> >>>>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
> >>>>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
> >>>>> 420w -PS
> >>>>> win. XP Pro
> >>>>> EXOS AL water cooling
> >>>>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Fl_Gulfer
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
Couldn't find anything about the jumper but i removed the battery for 10
min. and it booted up then set the bio's to Default Settings but the CPU
is only running at 1250 instead of 2081 and i'm afraid to set the
multiplyer any higher. but thanks for the help....
"V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:ufRs%239AXFHA.4032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> To the O.P.:
>
> Do you still have your motherboard manual?
>
> If so, look for the part that describes how to
> clear the CMOS by using a jumper on the motherboard.
>
> Do this and see if it boots up.
>
> If it doesn't, then your kid fried something.
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OHIdiuAXFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> So your kid tried to overclock the computer and screwed it up. Now you
> need
>> the services of an expert. Good luck. Many of the really fine techs I
>> know
>> have no knowledge of all when it comes to overclocking!
>>
>> Search on the term in Google and visit some of the web sites that deal
> with
>> it.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>>
>> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>>
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> news:P%Pie.5150$WG.2707@attbi_s22...
>> > my kid just told me he turned up the settings in the CMOS,, the CPU
> power
>> > up 1 setting and the AGP power up 1 setting trying to get the pc to go
>> > faster for his game, and was afraid to tell me. not sure what that
>> > means buy turning it up 1 he said the multiplyer too max and it
> wasn't
>> > fast enough
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
>> > news:u$CHd0$WFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> Sorry I misinterpreted part of your post.
>> >> I would not necessarily suspect the BIOS at this time if the battery
>> >> is
>> >> not
>> >> old and you have not done anything to the CMOS. I would wonder about
> the
>> >> motherboard or possibly the processor. If the computer is
> nonfunctional,
>> >> it
>> >> is hard to diagnose the actual problem without a swap machine, another
>> >> CPU,
>> >> etc.
>> >>
>> >> beachnutt wrote:
>> >>> Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It has
>> >>> dual Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the problem
>> >>> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >>>> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of others.
>> >>>> A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to determine the
>> >>>> exact
>> >>>> problem.
>> >>>> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
>> >>>>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do the
>> >>>>> final click sound before the monitor lights up and the light on
>> >>>>> the front just stays
>> >>>>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed the
>> >>>>> the temp of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS water
>> >>>>> cooling system) does this sound like the processor? I have no way
>> >>>>> to check it so I'm guessing so I can have them replace it. The AMD
>> >>>>> 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to be ok so far.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
>> >>>>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
>> >>>>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
>> >>>>> 420w -PS
>> >>>>> win. XP Pro
>> >>>>> EXOS AL water cooling
>> >>>>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
Hmmm. Sounds like a fried CPU. Your son may not have realized that
overclocking requires additional cooling resources (a whole industry unto
itself). In addition, overclocking is always an experiment, with loss of the
CPU being the downside of finding out just how fast the CPU can be made to
run.

Fl_Gulfer wrote:
> Couldn't find anything about the jumper but i removed the battery
> for 10 min. and it booted up then set the bio's to Default Settings
> but the CPU is only running at 1250 instead of 2081 and i'm afraid
> to set the multiplyer any higher. but thanks for the help....
> "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:ufRs%239AXFHA.4032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> To the O.P.:
>>
>> Do you still have your motherboard manual?
>>
>> If so, look for the part that describes how to
>> clear the CMOS by using a jumper on the motherboard.
>>
>> Do this and see if it boots up.
>>
>> If it doesn't, then your kid fried something.
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OHIdiuAXFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> So your kid tried to overclock the computer and screwed it up. Now
>>> you need the services of an expert. Good luck. Many of the really
>>> fine techs I know
>>> have no knowledge of all when it comes to overclocking!
>>>
>>> Search on the term in Google and visit some of the web sites that
>>> deal with it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>>
>>> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>>>
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>>
>>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:P%Pie.5150$WG.2707@attbi_s22...
>>>> my kid just told me he turned up the settings in the CMOS,, the
>>>> CPU power up 1 setting and the AGP power up 1 setting trying to
>>>> get the pc to go faster for his game, and was afraid to tell me.
>>>> not sure what that means buy turning it up 1 he said the
>>>> multiplyer too max and it wasn't fast enough
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u$CHd0$WFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Sorry I misinterpreted part of your post.
>>>>> I would not necessarily suspect the BIOS at this time if the
>>>>> battery is
>>>>> not
>>>>> old and you have not done anything to the CMOS. I would wonder
>>>>> about the motherboard or possibly the processor. If the computer
>>>>> is nonfunctional, it
>>>>> is hard to diagnose the actual problem without a swap machine,
>>>>> another CPU,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> beachnutt wrote:
>>>>>> Yes I have changed everything that came in it 3 years ago, It
>>>>>> has dual Bio's but I can't get to them so see if thats the
>>>>>> problem "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OfxHFc9WFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> In this case, I would not waste my time doing the work of
>>>>>>> others. A warranty repair shop will have the equipment to
>>>>>>> determine the exact
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> If you built this machine yourself, let us know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "beachnutt" <beach@mchsi.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ZGKie.4808$WG.4438@attbi_s22...
>>>>>>>> When i try to boot my pc the pc starts but it dosen't do
>>>>>>>> the final click sound before the monitor lights up and the
>>>>>>>> light on the front just stays
>>>>>>>> light and dosen't blink like it normally does. I also noticed
>>>>>>>> the the temp of the CPU is running alot cooler (I have a EXOS
>>>>>>>> water cooling system) does this sound like the processor? I
>>>>>>>> have no way to check it so I'm guessing so I can have them
>>>>>>>> replace it. The AMD 2800+ is 5 weeks old and it seamed to
>>>>>>>> be ok so far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gigabyte GA-7NNXP - MB
>>>>>>>> AMD 2800+ -CPU
>>>>>>>> 6600GT AGP -vid card
>>>>>>>> 420w -PS
>>>>>>>> win. XP Pro
>>>>>>>> EXOS AL water cooling
>>>>>>>> 36g Raptor O/S Drive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
I'll just say this, overclocking is NEVER a good idea. Even those who
specialize in it have fried cpu's. Heat is one of the major causes of
breakdown in a pc. The parts eventually wear out. Even with a good
cooling system, it doesn't mean it's ok to overclock. I agree with all
the above, your kid fried it. Although it might not be good to tell [if
you have a warranty] the repair place about that;)


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izzy
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
I'll just say this, overclocking of course is OK, as long as you realise
the risk involved and are prepared for any circumstances which might
evolve from doing so.
Obviously i overclock and probably always will.
Also good quality components is a must if you are going to oc.

EviL

"PCDaddy" <PCDaddy.1p9ovc@> wrote in message
news:3aadnR7wn9IophHfRVn_vg@giganews.com...
>
> I'll just say this, overclocking is NEVER a good idea. Even those who
> specialize in it have fried cpu's. Heat is one of the major causes of
> breakdown in a pc. The parts eventually wear out. Even with a good
> cooling system, it doesn't mean it's ok to overclock. I agree with all
> the above, your kid fried it. Although it might not be good to tell
> [if
> you have a warranty] the repair place about that;)
>
>
> --
> PCDaddyPosted from http://www.pcreview.co.uk/ newsgroup access
>

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
And i'll say this, what i meant by OK, is not that it's not ok for
someone to do, I really could care less what someone does with a pc,
it's not my money. What i meant is, some think that overclocking is
fine as long as they have a decent cooling system and that's not always
true. Overclocking is OK if you understand the risk, but let's be
honest, in general, it's never a good practice.


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izzy
07-10-2005, 01:50 AM
Ok true to a point i guess but lets be honest.
U can and probably always will be able to achieve safe level of
overclock, if u do put the research into it.
For instance i've been running my Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ speeds for the
last 1.5 years without a hitch.
Gone are the days of having to wait three years to upgrade, i think
these days u could do it every 6 moths if u so wished.

EviL

PCDaddy
07-10-2005, 01:51 AM
Ok, let's try to put this dog to sleep. If you want to overclock and
know how to do it, have researched it, know the risks, that is fine.
But for" MOST USERS", it is NOT a good idea for the safety of the cpu.
You say for the last 1.5 years. That's not long. You must have read,
since you researched, that most over clocked cpus even with good
cooling systems don't last as long as ones that are not over clocked.
About half the life if i'm correct. I'm sure it's not true for all but
the bottom line is, do it if you want, who cares. But for inexperienced
users, it is not a good idea.


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Boot Up problem