[Trevor Appleton]

PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob but
still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.

Started after BBand installed.

Wonder if its an overheating prob.

CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and doesn't
change.

Medion 8383 PC.

[Will Denny]

Hi

Have you had a look in the Event Viewer to see if any reference has been
made in there with regards to the problem?

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
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"Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
news:OAl0yQIeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob but
> still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.
>
> Started after BBand installed.
>
> Wonder if its an overheating prob.
>
> CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and doesn't
> change.
>
> Medion 8383 PC.
>

[Li'l Roberto]

"Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
news:OAl0yQIeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob but
> still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.
>
> Started after BBand installed.
>
> Wonder if its an overheating prob.
>
> CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and doesn't
> change.
>
> Medion 8383 PC.

65C @ idle is too hot, 82C is critical IMO, you may want to replace the
fan with something better, Thermaltake have good range.

rgds
Li'l Roberto

[Trevor Appleton]

"Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OyknpdIeFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> Have you had a look in the Event Viewer to see if any reference has been
> made in there with regards to the problem?
>
>

Having never heard of the event viewer, not sure what I'm looking for, but
at the point it may have frozen there is a warning message which says
souce: tcpip

[Trevor Appleton]

"Will Denny" <willdenny@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OyknpdIeFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> Have you had a look in the Event Viewer to see if any reference has been
> made in there with regards to the problem?
>
> --


In the application records theres a warning from: userenv

[Trevor Appleton]

"Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:e27uhnIeFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> "Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:OAl0yQIeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob but
>> still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.
>>
>> Started after BBand installed.
>>
>> Wonder if its an overheating prob.
>>
>> CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and
>> doesn't change.
>>
>> Medion 8383 PC.
>
> 65C @ idle is too hot, 82C is critical IMO, you may want to replace
> the fan with something better, Thermaltake have good range.
>
> rgds
> Li'l Roberto
>

Its under warranty. The engineer put a new fan in yesterday. It sounded like
a vacuum cleaner before but is now quite.

Its a liquid cooled fan.

[Trevor Appleton]

It it safe (wise)) to print the event viewer here?

[Will Denny]

Hi

You only need to provide the Event ID and Source. Then someone may be able
to point you towards a possible solution. I agree with Li'l Roberto - your
PC's temp is too high.

--

Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups


"Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
news:uddBhtIeFHA.640@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> It it safe (wise)) to print the event viewer here?

[Trevor Appleton]

I noticed it touched 84C once. Averaging 72

[Trevor Appleton]

Here we are:

Event User Computer
Information 24/06/2005 08:00:13 ESENT General 101 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 08:00:13 ESENT General 103 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:55:12 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:55:12 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:39 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:22 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:18 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:13 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:06 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:05 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:04 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:04 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:04 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:54:03 ccSetMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:19:02 ESENT General 101 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:19:02 ESENT General 103 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:14:00 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:14:00 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:13:30 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:13:13 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:13:12 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:13:04 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:12:57 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:12:56 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:12:56 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:12:55 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:12:55 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:12:55 ccSetMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:00:50 ESENT General 101 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 07:00:50 ESENT General 103 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:55:49 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:55:49 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:55:14 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:55:02 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:55:00 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:53 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:46 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:45 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:44 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:44 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:44 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:54:44 ccSetMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:39:34 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:39:34 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Warning 24/06/2005 06:39:34 Userenv None 1517 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:32:47 ESENT General 101 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:32:47 ESENT General 103 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:27:46 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:27:46 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:27:14 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:27:00 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:58 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:51 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:44 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:43 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:42 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:42 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:42 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:26:41 ccSetMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:23:31 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:23:31 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Warning 24/06/2005 06:23:30 Userenv None 1517 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:06:49 ESENT General 101 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:06:49 ESENT General 103 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:01:49 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:01:49 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:01:14 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:01:01 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:59 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:51 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:45 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:44 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:43 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:43 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:43 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 06:00:42 ccSetMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:57:47 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:57:47 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:57:12 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:59 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:57 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:51 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:44 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:43 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:42 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:42 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:42 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 05:56:42 ccSetMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:49:49 ESENT General 101 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:49:49 ESENT General 103 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:44:48 ESENT General 102 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:44:48 ESENT General 100 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:44:17 SAVSCAN None 100 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:44:01 SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:59 ccProxy None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:52 ccProxy None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:45 ccEvtMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:44 SNDSrvc None 1 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:44 ccEvtMgr None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:43 SNDSrvc None 26 SYSTEM MEDION
Information 24/06/2005 03:43:43 ccSetMgr None 1 SYSTEM MEDION

[Li'l Roberto]

"Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
news:%23yMzOsIeFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> "Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:e27uhnIeFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> "Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:OAl0yQIeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob but
>>> still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.
>>>
>>> Started after BBand installed.
>>>
>>> Wonder if its an overheating prob.
>>>
>>> CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and
>>> doesn't change.
>>>
>>> Medion 8383 PC.
>>
>> 65C @ idle is too hot, 82C is critical IMO, you may want to replace
>> the fan with something better, Thermaltake have good range.
>>
>> rgds
>> Li'l Roberto
>>
>
> Its under warranty. The engineer put a new fan in yesterday. It sounded
> like a vacuum cleaner before but is now quite.
>
> Its a liquid cooled fan.

More than likely the new fan will solve your problem

rgds
Li'l Roberto

[Trevor Appleton]

"Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:egNfyNJeFHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23yMzOsIeFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
>> news:e27uhnIeFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> "Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:OAl0yQIeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob
>>>> but still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.
>>>>
>>>> Started after BBand installed.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder if its an overheating prob.
>>>>
>>>> CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and
>>>> doesn't change.
>>>>
>>>> Medion 8383 PC.
>>>
>>> 65C @ idle is too hot, 82C is critical IMO, you may want to replace
>>> the fan with something better, Thermaltake have good range.
>>>
>>> rgds
>>> Li'l Roberto
>>>
>>
>> Its under warranty. The engineer put a new fan in yesterday. It sounded
>> like a vacuum cleaner before but is now quite.
>>
>> Its a liquid cooled fan.
>
> More than likely the new fan will solve your problem
>



Its freezing up even more with the new fan

[NoNoBadDog!]

"Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
news:OZUNMVJeFHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> "Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:egNfyNJeFHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> "Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23yMzOsIeFHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
>>> news:e27uhnIeFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Trevor Appleton" <trevor.appleton@woldsedge.org.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:OAl0yQIeFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> PC Freezing up. Restored to two weeks ago whenh didn't have the prob
>>>>> but still frezing. Usually after 5-30 mins of use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Started after BBand installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wonder if its an overheating prob.
>>>>>
>>>>> CPU variesd fromm 65-82C when idle and fan sticks at 2163 revs and
>>>>> doesn't change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Medion 8383 PC.
>>>>
>>>> 65C @ idle is too hot, 82C is critical IMO, you may want to
>>>> replace the fan with something better, Thermaltake have good
>>>> range.
>>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> Li'l Roberto
>>>>
>>>
>>> Its under warranty. The engineer put a new fan in yesterday. It sounded
>>> like a vacuum cleaner before but is now quite.
>>>
>>> Its a liquid cooled fan.
>>
>> More than likely the new fan will solve your problem
>>
>
>
>
> Its freezing up even more with the new fan
>

There is no such thing as a "Liquid Cooled Fan".

Children should not play with things they do not understand.

65 degrees Celsius should be your temps *AT LOAD*. Most processors are only
rated to 70 to 75 degrees Celsius. Your temps are very much out of line.
If it under warranty, demand it be fixed properly. Once again, your temps
should only rise to above 60 degrees Celsius when under full load (gaming,
etc).

Bobby

[Li'l Roberto]

>>> Its under warranty. The engineer put a new fan in yesterday. It sounded
>>> like a vacuum cleaner before but is now quite.
>>>
>>> Its a liquid cooled fan.
>>
>> More than likely the new fan will solve your problem
>>
>
>
>
> Its freezing up even more with the new fan

Doesn't look good, could be those excessive temps have damaged your
CPU, NoNoBadDog! is right on the money - 65C should be your max temp.
Luckily for you the PC is still under warranty

good luck
rgds
Li'l Roberto