[Wayne]

A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and they
had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive even
though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to get
into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I used
error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before. It
takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something may
have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case, is
there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and try
that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
--
Wayne

[Rich Barry]

Wayne, not to sure what procedure you followed. A clicking noise from the
hard drive is not good and could be the
notorious click of death that hard drives give off as they approach
failure. If Gateway sent you a new drive did you
use it and reinstall WinXP? Do you have a WinXP CD or do you have a
Recovery Disk?
"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
> beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
> heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and
> they
> had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
> even
> though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
> get
> into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
> used
> error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
> intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before.
> It
> takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
> may
> have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case,
> is
> there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
> try
> that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
> could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
> --
> Wayne

[Rock]

Wayne wrote:

> A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
> beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
> heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and they
> had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive even
> though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to get
> into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I used
> error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
> intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before. It
> takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something may
> have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case, is
> there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and try
> that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
> could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.

Wayne, not trying to be mean but your post doesn't make much sense. For
example you write "...they had me run a test on the computer but it did
not indicate a hard drive even though they sent a new one." What does
that mean?

You may want to read this about making good newsgroup posts and resubmit
with a better description of the problem:

Making Good Newsgroup Posts
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Without knowing more of your issues here are some options:

1. Install the new drive as a slave drive and use a copy utility from
the drive manufacturer's web site to copy the contents of the old to the
new, disconnect the old drive, connect the new drive as Master and boot
from it. If there are still problems then do a repair install:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

or

2. Backup all important data from the old drive. Take it out, install
the new drive as Master, do a clean install of XP on the new drive:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html, install programs from
original media. Restore backup of important data.

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

[Ron Sommer]

"Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:%23jHYyfHeFHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Wayne wrote:
>
>> A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go
>> just beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise
>> could be heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called
>> Gateway and they had me run a test on the computer but it did not
>> indicate a hard drive even though they sent me a new one. I have been
>> using the windows XP disk to get into windows instead of the boot up
>> files from the hard drive. Since I used error checking and defrag I can
>> now get into windows without using the windows XP disk. However, it seems
>> to be booting from the boot files from intel, what ever that means and it
>> is not the same way as it was before. It takes a lot longer time to get
>> it to boot. I am thinking that something may have happened to my boot up
>> files on the hard drive. If this is the case, is there any way that I can
>> just restore the boot files from the XP CD and try that to see if it
>> works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files could have got
>> corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Wayne, not trying to be mean but your post doesn't make much sense. For
> example you write "...they had me run a test on the computer but it did
> not indicate a hard drive even though they sent a new one." What does
> that mean?
>
snipped
> --
> Rock
> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
Wayne's post on Monday was better.
On Monday, Wayne says 'CD-Rom disk that Gateway had provided to reload the
drivers'.
Now Wayne says 'windows XP disk'.
--
Ron Sommer

I am using a Gateway computer with Windows XP SP2 with an 80 GB WD hard
drive. I shut off my computer one night as usual and the next morning when I
tried to restart the computer it would not start. It will get just beyond
the Gateway Splash screen and then it will stop and start making a fast
clicking noise. There is not any beep messages as it does not get that far
along to give beep messages. I called Gateway and their technicians
confirmed
that the hard drive had probably gone bad causing the computer not to start.
The only way I can get into windows is to use a CD-Rom disk that Gateway had
provided to reload the drivers. After I get into windows my computers runs
as
it normally does and all my files and programs seem to be OK. Gateway has
sent me another hard drive to reinstall in my computer. Does anyone know of
any way that I could just reinstall the startup files and not touch the
operating system since it is OK? Or should I just bite the bullet and
reinstall the new hard drive? I have all my files and programs backed up on
a
CD Rom disk at this time and I am ready to mount the hard drive in this
computer I am writing this message on at this time. Thanks for any help.
--
Wayne

[Wayne]

Rich and Rock, thanks for the information you both have provided. This is a
little difficult for me to try and explain. The Gateway Technician had me run
the chkdsk test and another test which I do not remember, but both of these
test did not indicate a hard drive failure nor did it fix the problem. I am
beginning to think they sent me the new hard drive as they did not know what
else to do to get my computer to boot up. After talking to the Gateway Tech I
used the windows xp disk to boot the computer into windows and I ran error
checking and I defragged the computer. I believe that this is a software
problems with the bootup files since I defragged and used error checking the
drive no longer makes that clicking noise like it did before while booting
up. It will also now go into windows without the aid of the xp disk. However,
it is not the same as it originally was before this all happened. In starting
up it mentions on the screen that it is using the Intel Boot up files which
it never mentioned that before but went straight into windows after the
Gateway Splash screen. It also take a lot longer time now to boot into
windows. There is probably a way, if I knew how to do it, to transfer the
boot up files from the XP disk that Gateway sent along with the recovery disk
back to the hard drive but I do not have the information on how to do it.
Another reason I think the hard drive is OK is that my computer is completely
quiet while running. The only thing I hear are the fans running. If either of
you can tell me how to transfer the boot up file from the xp disk back to the
hard drive without harming the operating system I would certainly appreciate
it. Thanks and have a good day.
--
Wayne


"Rock" wrote:

> Wayne wrote:
>
> > A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and they
> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive even
> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to get
> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I used
> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before. It
> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something may
> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case, is
> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and try
> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Wayne, not trying to be mean but your post doesn't make much sense. For
> example you write "...they had me run a test on the computer but it did
> not indicate a hard drive even though they sent a new one." What does
> that mean?
>
> You may want to read this about making good newsgroup posts and resubmit
> with a better description of the problem:
>
> Making Good Newsgroup Posts
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> Without knowing more of your issues here are some options:
>
> 1. Install the new drive as a slave drive and use a copy utility from
> the drive manufacturer's web site to copy the contents of the old to the
> new, disconnect the old drive, connect the new drive as Master and boot
> from it. If there are still problems then do a repair install:
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>
> or
>
> 2. Backup all important data from the old drive. Take it out, install
> the new drive as Master, do a clean install of XP on the new drive:
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html, install programs from
> original media. Restore backup of important data.
>
> --
> Rock
> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
>

[Rich Barry]

Wayne, since you are talking about a
Proprietary
Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing is a
Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux loads.
Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
> beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
> heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and
> they
> had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
> even
> though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
> get
> into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
> used
> error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
> intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before.
> It
> takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
> may
> have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case,
> is
> there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
> try
> that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
> could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
> --
> Wayne

[Wayne]

Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I see
after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE v4.1.18
and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays on
the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
both for your time

Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk and
at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is booting
into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start making
the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it to
fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
--
Wayne


"Rich Barry" wrote:

> Wayne, since you are talking about a
> Proprietary
> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing is a
> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux loads.
> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and
> > they
> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
> > even
> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
> > get
> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
> > used
> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before.
> > It
> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
> > may
> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case,
> > is
> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
> > try
> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
> > --
> > Wayne
>
>
>

[David Candy]

Does it say press F12 to boot from Network at bottom of screen.

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"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
> Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I see
> after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE v4.1.18
> and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays on
> the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
> then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
> completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
> both for your time
>
> Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk and
> at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
> boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is booting
> into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
> Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start making
> the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it to
> fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
> --
> Wayne
>
>
> "Rich Barry" wrote:
>
>> Wayne, since you are talking about a
>> Proprietary
>> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
>> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing is a
>> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
>> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux loads.
>> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
>> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
>> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go just
>> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could be
>> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway and
>> > they
>> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
>> > even
>> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
>> > get
>> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
>> > used
>> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
>> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files from
>> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was before.
>> > It
>> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
>> > may
>> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the case,
>> > is
>> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
>> > try
>> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot files
>> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>> > --
>> > Wayne
>>
>>
>>

[Rock]

Wayne wrote:
> Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I see
> after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE v4.1.18
> and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays on
> the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
> then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
> completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
> both for your time
>
> Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk and
> at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
> boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is booting
> into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
> Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start making
> the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it to
> fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.

Download a hard drive diagnostic utility from the drive manufacturer's
web site. This will usually create a bootable floppy disk from which
the diagnostics are run. Use that to test the drive.

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

[Ron Sommer]

http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
--
Ron Sommer

"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
> Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I
> see
> after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE
> v4.1.18
> and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays
> on
> the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
> then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
> completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
> both for your time
>
> Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk
> and
> at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
> boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
> booting
> into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
> Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start
> making
> the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it
> to
> fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
> --
> Wayne
>
>
> "Rich Barry" wrote:
>
>> Wayne, since you are talking about a
>> Proprietary
>> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
>> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing
>> is a
>> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
>> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux
>> loads.
>> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
>> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
>> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go
>> >just
>> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could
>> > be
>> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway
>> > and
>> > they
>> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
>> > even
>> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
>> > get
>> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
>> > used
>> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
>> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files
>> > from
>> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
>> > before.
>> > It
>> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
>> > may
>> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the
>> > case,
>> > is
>> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
>> > try
>> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot
>> > files
>> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>> > --
>> > Wayne
>>
>>
>>

[Wayne]

Dave, Rock and Rich, I will answer your answers all at the same time: Dave, I
checked and it does not say to press f12 to boot from network at any place on
the screen.
Ron, I checked the bios and the bootup shows it is to boot from drive D
which is a [4M-NEC DVD_RW ND-1300] CD-rom drive. I have never been in this
BIOS before and therefore no changes could have been made by error. I did not
see the Intel Boot Agent listed in the boot sequence. I left it as I found it.

Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When I was
in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was enable...so I
thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about this.

Ron, after the Gateway Splash screen comes the following information which
does not make a lot of sense to me but it may to some one else: The below
information was not visible before my problem started.

Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10
Copyright (C) 1997-2003, Intel Corporation

Intel (R) Boot Agent PXE Base Code [BA1210BC-GW1]
Copyright 1997-2003, Intel Corporation

Client MAC ADD:00 0C F1 92 7E 04
GUI: 000CF192 7E04 2003 1104 130003000000
DHCP./ followed by a flashing cursor.

After nearly a minute this changes to; PXE MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
The computer then goes into windows normally. Like I said, the above
information does not mean very much to me as my knowledge is limited in this
area, and many other areas as well, of course. If any of you can make
anything out of this information It would be much appreicated. As you can
see, at least I can get into windows without any input. When it first
started acting up, making those fast clicking noises from the computer, I
used the MS XP disk to get into windows so I could run the tools mentioned
below. When this first started I could not get into windows unless I used the
XP Disk. After I did the error checking, with fix errors box checked, and a
defrag, I was able to get into windows with any input on my part. Hopefully
this information will mean something to one of you, or hopefully all of you.
--
Wayne

P. S. Rich, I will check and see if there is a forum on the Gateway Website.
Thanks for reminding me.


"Ron Sommer" wrote:

> http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
> Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
> > Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I
> > see
> > after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE
> > v4.1.18
> > and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays
> > on
> > the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
> > then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
> > completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
> > both for your time
> >
> > Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk
> > and
> > at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
> > boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
> > booting
> > into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
> > Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start
> > making
> > the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it
> > to
> > fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
> > --
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> > "Rich Barry" wrote:
> >
> >> Wayne, since you are talking about a
> >> Proprietary
> >> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
> >> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing
> >> is a
> >> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
> >> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux
> >> loads.
> >> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
> >> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
> >> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go
> >> >just
> >> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could
> >> > be
> >> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway
> >> > and
> >> > they
> >> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
> >> > even
> >> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
> >> > get
> >> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
> >> > used
> >> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> >> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files
> >> > from
> >> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
> >> > before.
> >> > It
> >> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
> >> > may
> >> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the
> >> > case,
> >> > is
> >> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
> >> > try
> >> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot
> >> > files
> >> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
> >> > --
> >> > Wayne
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

[Rock]

Wayne wrote:

<snip>

> Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
> version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When I was
> in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was enable...so I
> thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about this.

<snip>

It is not the same. The diagnostic utility does a much more thorough
test of the drive. Use it to be sure.

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

[David Candy]

It should say Press ..., adjust your monitor. What is the second, third, etc boot device.

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"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FDEB3B46-31A4-4BD7-9F81-D7C4C7FB5DA9@microsoft.com...
> Dave, Rock and Rich, I will answer your answers all at the same time: Dave, I
> checked and it does not say to press f12 to boot from network at any place on
> the screen.
> Ron, I checked the bios and the bootup shows it is to boot from drive D
> which is a [4M-NEC DVD_RW ND-1300] CD-rom drive. I have never been in this
> BIOS before and therefore no changes could have been made by error. I did not
> see the Intel Boot Agent listed in the boot sequence. I left it as I found it.
>
> Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
> version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When I was
> in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was enable...so I
> thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about this.
>
> Ron, after the Gateway Splash screen comes the following information which
> does not make a lot of sense to me but it may to some one else: The below
> information was not visible before my problem started.
>
> Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10
> Copyright (C) 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
>
> Intel (R) Boot Agent PXE Base Code [BA1210BC-GW1]
> Copyright 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
>
> Client MAC ADD:00 0C F1 92 7E 04
> GUI: 000CF192 7E04 2003 1104 130003000000
> DHCP./ followed by a flashing cursor.
>
> After nearly a minute this changes to; PXE MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
> The computer then goes into windows normally. Like I said, the above
> information does not mean very much to me as my knowledge is limited in this
> area, and many other areas as well, of course. If any of you can make
> anything out of this information It would be much appreicated. As you can
> see, at least I can get into windows without any input. When it first
> started acting up, making those fast clicking noises from the computer, I
> used the MS XP disk to get into windows so I could run the tools mentioned
> below. When this first started I could not get into windows unless I used the
> XP Disk. After I did the error checking, with fix errors box checked, and a
> defrag, I was able to get into windows with any input on my part. Hopefully
> this information will mean something to one of you, or hopefully all of you.
> --
> Wayne
>
> P. S. Rich, I will check and see if there is a forum on the Gateway Website.
> Thanks for reminding me.
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>
>> http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
>> Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
>> > Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I
>> > see
>> > after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE
>> > v4.1.18
>> > and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays
>> > on
>> > the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
>> > then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
>> > completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
>> > both for your time
>> >
>> > Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk
>> > and
>> > at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
>> > boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
>> > booting
>> > into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
>> > Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start
>> > making
>> > the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it
>> > to
>> > fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
>> > --
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rich Barry" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wayne, since you are talking about a
>> >> Proprietary
>> >> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
>> >> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing
>> >> is a
>> >> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
>> >> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux
>> >> loads.
>> >> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
>> >> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
>> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>> >> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go
>> >> >just
>> >> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could
>> >> > be
>> >> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway
>> >> > and
>> >> > they
>> >> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
>> >> > even
>> >> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
>> >> > get
>> >> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
>> >> > used
>> >> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
>> >> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files
>> >> > from
>> >> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
>> >> > before.
>> >> > It
>> >> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
>> >> > may
>> >> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the
>> >> > case,
>> >> > is
>> >> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
>> >> > try
>> >> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot
>> >> > files
>> >> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Wayne
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

[Wayne]

David, the 2nd boot drive is [1st floppy drive] which would have to be drive A.
The 3rd boot drive is [IBA FE SLOT 0140 v4110]
The 4th boot drive is [3M-WDC WD800BB-53DKA01 which is my hard drive. I am
not familiar with the 3rd one at all. David! while typing this something
light up in my brain. Look at the 3rd boot drive carefully then look at what
I wrote earlier about the information on the boot up screen after the Gateway
splash screen which is
Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10. It sure does look like it is booting from
the 3rd boot drive which is the Intel Boot Agent listed above. Is this
normal? If so how did it get changed as I have never been in this BIOS before
on this computer until today. When I checked it today the 1st boot device was
high lighted and I thought it was the one that it was booting from. Then
again, remember what I said when this trouble first started, I could not even
get into windows without using the MS Windows XP boot up disk. Maybe it
changed itself, is that possible? Is it supposed to boot off the hard drive
or the floppy first? I am under the impression that it is normally supposed
to boot off the hard drive. If it is supposed to boot from the hard drive and
it changed on it own to the [IBA] maybe it would not start again if I changed
it back to where it normally would be located. I will wait until I hear back
from you before I do any more. Thanks for your time and have a good evening.

--
Wayne


"David Candy" wrote:

> It should say Press ..., adjust your monitor. What is the second, third, etc boot device.
>
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> =================================================
> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FDEB3B46-31A4-4BD7-9F81-D7C4C7FB5DA9@microsoft.com...
> > Dave, Rock and Rich, I will answer your answers all at the same time: Dave, I
> > checked and it does not say to press f12 to boot from network at any place on
> > the screen.
> > Ron, I checked the bios and the bootup shows it is to boot from drive D
> > which is a [4M-NEC DVD_RW ND-1300] CD-rom drive. I have never been in this
> > BIOS before and therefore no changes could have been made by error. I did not
> > see the Intel Boot Agent listed in the boot sequence. I left it as I found it.
> >
> > Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
> > version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When I was
> > in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was enable...so I
> > thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about this.
> >
> > Ron, after the Gateway Splash screen comes the following information which
> > does not make a lot of sense to me but it may to some one else: The below
> > information was not visible before my problem started.
> >
> > Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10
> > Copyright (C) 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
> >
> > Intel (R) Boot Agent PXE Base Code [BA1210BC-GW1]
> > Copyright 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
> >
> > Client MAC ADD:00 0C F1 92 7E 04
> > GUI: 000CF192 7E04 2003 1104 130003000000
> > DHCP./ followed by a flashing cursor.
> >
> > After nearly a minute this changes to; PXE MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
> > The computer then goes into windows normally. Like I said, the above
> > information does not mean very much to me as my knowledge is limited in this
> > area, and many other areas as well, of course. If any of you can make
> > anything out of this information It would be much appreicated. As you can
> > see, at least I can get into windows without any input. When it first
> > started acting up, making those fast clicking noises from the computer, I
> > used the MS XP disk to get into windows so I could run the tools mentioned
> > below. When this first started I could not get into windows unless I used the
> > XP Disk. After I did the error checking, with fix errors box checked, and a
> > defrag, I was able to get into windows with any input on my part. Hopefully
> > this information will mean something to one of you, or hopefully all of you.
> > --
> > Wayne
> >
> > P. S. Rich, I will check and see if there is a forum on the Gateway Website.
> > Thanks for reminding me.
> >
> >
> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
> >> Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
> >> --
> >> Ron Sommer
> >>
> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
> >> > Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I
> >> > see
> >> > after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE
> >> > v4.1.18
> >> > and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays
> >> > on
> >> > the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
> >> > then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
> >> > completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
> >> > both for your time
> >> >
> >> > Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk
> >> > and
> >> > at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
> >> > boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
> >> > booting
> >> > into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
> >> > Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start
> >> > making
> >> > the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it
> >> > to
> >> > fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
> >> > --
> >> > Wayne
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Rich Barry" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Wayne, since you are talking about a
> >> >> Proprietary
> >> >> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
> >> >> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing
> >> >> is a
> >> >> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
> >> >> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux
> >> >> loads.
> >> >> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
> >> >> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
> >> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go
> >> >> >just
> >> >> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > they
> >> >> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
> >> >> > even
> >> >> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
> >> >> > used
> >> >> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
> >> >> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
> >> >> > before.
> >> >> > It
> >> >> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
> >> >> > may
> >> >> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the
> >> >> > case,
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot
> >> >> > files
> >> >> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Wayne
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

[David Candy]

If you adjust your monitor to make the picture smaller you'll see that message at the bottom of the screen.

It can't find your CDRom drive to boot from, so it tries the floppy, but there's no disk in the floppy, so it skips and tries to boot from a network server (which won't work because you haven't pressed F12 AND there probably isn't a network server), but it should time out on the network server and then look for D (what happened to C ?). So make the hard drive #1.

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"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EDD12928-D489-444F-8D71-2B5723297AC0@microsoft.com...
> David, the 2nd boot drive is [1st floppy drive] which would have to be drive A.
> The 3rd boot drive is [IBA FE SLOT 0140 v4110]
> The 4th boot drive is [3M-WDC WD800BB-53DKA01 which is my hard drive. I am
> not familiar with the 3rd one at all. David! while typing this something
> light up in my brain. Look at the 3rd boot drive carefully then look at what
> I wrote earlier about the information on the boot up screen after the Gateway
> splash screen which is
> Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10. It sure does look like it is booting from
> the 3rd boot drive which is the Intel Boot Agent listed above. Is this
> normal? If so how did it get changed as I have never been in this BIOS before
> on this computer until today. When I checked it today the 1st boot device was
> high lighted and I thought it was the one that it was booting from. Then
> again, remember what I said when this trouble first started, I could not even
> get into windows without using the MS Windows XP boot up disk. Maybe it
> changed itself, is that possible? Is it supposed to boot off the hard drive
> or the floppy first? I am under the impression that it is normally supposed
> to boot off the hard drive. If it is supposed to boot from the hard drive and
> it changed on it own to the [IBA] maybe it would not start again if I changed
> it back to where it normally would be located. I will wait until I hear back
> from you before I do any more. Thanks for your time and have a good evening.
>
> --
> Wayne
>
>
> "David Candy" wrote:
>
>> It should say Press ..., adjust your monitor. What is the second, third, etc boot device.
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
>> =================================================
>> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FDEB3B46-31A4-4BD7-9F81-D7C4C7FB5DA9@microsoft.com...
>> > Dave, Rock and Rich, I will answer your answers all at the same time: Dave, I
>> > checked and it does not say to press f12 to boot from network at any place on
>> > the screen.
>> > Ron, I checked the bios and the bootup shows it is to boot from drive D
>> > which is a [4M-NEC DVD_RW ND-1300] CD-rom drive. I have never been in this
>> > BIOS before and therefore no changes could have been made by error. I did not
>> > see the Intel Boot Agent listed in the boot sequence. I left it as I found it.
>> >
>> > Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
>> > version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When I was
>> > in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was enable...so I
>> > thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about this.
>> >
>> > Ron, after the Gateway Splash screen comes the following information which
>> > does not make a lot of sense to me but it may to some one else: The below
>> > information was not visible before my problem started.
>> >
>> > Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10
>> > Copyright (C) 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
>> >
>> > Intel (R) Boot Agent PXE Base Code [BA1210BC-GW1]
>> > Copyright 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
>> >
>> > Client MAC ADD:00 0C F1 92 7E 04
>> > GUI: 000CF192 7E04 2003 1104 130003000000
>> > DHCP./ followed by a flashing cursor.
>> >
>> > After nearly a minute this changes to; PXE MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
>> > The computer then goes into windows normally. Like I said, the above
>> > information does not mean very much to me as my knowledge is limited in this
>> > area, and many other areas as well, of course. If any of you can make
>> > anything out of this information It would be much appreicated. As you can
>> > see, at least I can get into windows without any input. When it first
>> > started acting up, making those fast clicking noises from the computer, I
>> > used the MS XP disk to get into windows so I could run the tools mentioned
>> > below. When this first started I could not get into windows unless I used the
>> > XP Disk. After I did the error checking, with fix errors box checked, and a
>> > defrag, I was able to get into windows with any input on my part. Hopefully
>> > this information will mean something to one of you, or hopefully all of you.
>> > --
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> > P. S. Rich, I will check and see if there is a forum on the Gateway Website.
>> > Thanks for reminding me.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
>> >> Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
>> >> --
>> >> Ron Sommer
>> >>
>> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only thing I
>> >> > see
>> >> > after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent FE
>> >> > v4.1.18
>> >> > and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This stays
>> >> > on
>> >> > the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot agent and
>> >> > then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at all,
>> >> > completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead. Thank you
>> >> > both for your time
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP disk
>> >> > and
>> >> > at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's master
>> >> > boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
>> >> > booting
>> >> > into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way it is.
>> >> > Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then start
>> >> > making
>> >> > the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and for it
>> >> > to
>> >> > fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Wayne
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rich Barry" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Wayne, since you are talking about a
>> >> >> Proprietary
>> >> >> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
>> >> >> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably seeing
>> >> >> is a
>> >> >> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
>> >> >> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way Linux
>> >> >> loads.
>> >> >> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
>> >> >> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
>> >> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It would go
>> >> >> >just
>> >> >> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise could
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called Gateway
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > they
>> >> >> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard drive
>> >> >> > even
>> >> >> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP disk to
>> >> >> > get
>> >> >> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive. Since I
>> >> >> > used
>> >> >> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without using the
>> >> >> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot files
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
>> >> >> > before.
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that something
>> >> >> > may
>> >> >> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is the
>> >> >> > case,
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP CD and
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the boot
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Wayne
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>

[Ron Sommer]

Wayne,
Change the hard drive to the first boot device.
If you ever want to boot from the CDRom or floppy drive, you will have it
listed before the hard drive in the boot order.

The Intel Boot Agent will not attempt to boot as long as a bootable device
is listed before it in the boot order. (A bootable CD in the CDRom drive, a
bootable floppy in the floppy drive, or a bootable hard drive.)
If you looked at the Intel link in my previous post, The Intel Boot Agent
has to be uninstalled.


David,
D is the CDRom.
--
Ron Sommer

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
news:%23XpgWNseFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
If you adjust your monitor to make the picture smaller you'll see that
message at the bottom of the screen.

It can't find your CDRom drive to boot from, so it tries the floppy, but
there's no disk in the floppy, so it skips and tries to boot from a network
server (which won't work because you haven't pressed F12 AND there probably
isn't a network server), but it should time out on the network server and
then look for D (what happened to C ?). So make the hard drive #1.

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"Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EDD12928-D489-444F-8D71-2B5723297AC0@microsoft.com...
> David, the 2nd boot drive is [1st floppy drive] which would have to be
> drive A.
> The 3rd boot drive is [IBA FE SLOT 0140 v4110]
> The 4th boot drive is [3M-WDC WD800BB-53DKA01 which is my hard drive. I am
> not familiar with the 3rd one at all. David! while typing this something
> light up in my brain. Look at the 3rd boot drive carefully then look at
> what
> I wrote earlier about the information on the boot up screen after the
> Gateway
> splash screen which is
> Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10. It sure does look like it is booting from
> the 3rd boot drive which is the Intel Boot Agent listed above. Is this
> normal? If so how did it get changed as I have never been in this BIOS
> before
> on this computer until today. When I checked it today the 1st boot device
> was
> high lighted and I thought it was the one that it was booting from. Then
> again, remember what I said when this trouble first started, I could not
> even
> get into windows without using the MS Windows XP boot up disk. Maybe it
> changed itself, is that possible? Is it supposed to boot off the hard
> drive
> or the floppy first? I am under the impression that it is normally
> supposed
> to boot off the hard drive. If it is supposed to boot from the hard drive
> and
> it changed on it own to the [IBA] maybe it would not start again if I
> changed
> it back to where it normally would be located. I will wait until I hear
> back
> from you before I do any more. Thanks for your time and have a good
> evening.
>
> --
> Wayne
>
>
> "David Candy" wrote:
>
>> It should say Press ..., adjust your monitor. What is the second, third,
>> etc boot device.
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
>> =================================================
>> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FDEB3B46-31A4-4BD7-9F81-D7C4C7FB5DA9@microsoft.com...
>> > Dave, Rock and Rich, I will answer your answers all at the same time:
>> > Dave, I
>> > checked and it does not say to press f12 to boot from network at any
>> > place on
>> > the screen.
>> > Ron, I checked the bios and the bootup shows it is to boot from drive D
>> > which is a [4M-NEC DVD_RW ND-1300] CD-rom drive. I have never been in
>> > this
>> > BIOS before and therefore no changes could have been made by error. I
>> > did not
>> > see the Intel Boot Agent listed in the boot sequence. I left it as I
>> > found it.
>> >
>> > Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
>> > version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When
>> > I was
>> > in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was
>> > enable...so I
>> > thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about
>> > this.
>> >
>> > Ron, after the Gateway Splash screen comes the following information
>> > which
>> > does not make a lot of sense to me but it may to some one else: The
>> > below
>> > information was not visible before my problem started.
>> >
>> > Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10
>> > Copyright (C) 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
>> >
>> > Intel (R) Boot Agent PXE Base Code [BA1210BC-GW1]
>> > Copyright 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
>> >
>> > Client MAC ADD:00 0C F1 92 7E 04
>> > GUI: 000CF192 7E04 2003 1104 130003000000
>> > DHCP./ followed by a flashing cursor.
>> >
>> > After nearly a minute this changes to; PXE MOF: Exiting Intel Boot
>> > Agent.
>> > The computer then goes into windows normally. Like I said, the above
>> > information does not mean very much to me as my knowledge is limited in
>> > this
>> > area, and many other areas as well, of course. If any of you can make
>> > anything out of this information It would be much appreicated. As you
>> > can
>> > see, at least I can get into windows without any input. When it first
>> > started acting up, making those fast clicking noises from the computer,
>> > I
>> > used the MS XP disk to get into windows so I could run the tools
>> > mentioned
>> > below. When this first started I could not get into windows unless I
>> > used the
>> > XP Disk. After I did the error checking, with fix errors box checked,
>> > and a
>> > defrag, I was able to get into windows with any input on my part.
>> > Hopefully
>> > this information will mean something to one of you, or hopefully all of
>> > you.
>> > --
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> > P. S. Rich, I will check and see if there is a forum on the Gateway
>> > Website.
>> > Thanks for reminding me.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
>> >> Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
>> >> --
>> >> Ron Sommer
>> >>
>> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only
>> >> > thing I
>> >> > see
>> >> > after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent
>> >> > FE
>> >> > v4.1.18
>> >> > and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This
>> >> > stays
>> >> > on
>> >> > the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot
>> >> > agent and
>> >> > then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at
>> >> > all,
>> >> > completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead.
>> >> > Thank you
>> >> > both for your time
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP
>> >> > disk
>> >> > and
>> >> > at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's
>> >> > master
>> >> > boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
>> >> > booting
>> >> > into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way
>> >> > it is.
>> >> > Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then
>> >> > start
>> >> > making
>> >> > the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and
>> >> > for it
>> >> > to
>> >> > fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Wayne
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rich Barry" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Wayne, since you are talking about a
>> >> >> Proprietary
>> >> >> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
>> >> >> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably
>> >> >> seeing
>> >> >> is a
>> >> >> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
>> >> >> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way
>> >> >> Linux
>> >> >> loads.
>> >> >> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
>> >> >> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
>> >> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It
>> >> >> >would go
>> >> >> >just
>> >> >> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise
>> >> >> > could
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called
>> >> >> > Gateway
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > they
>> >> >> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard
>> >> >> > drive
>> >> >> > even
>> >> >> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP
>> >> >> > disk to
>> >> >> > get
>> >> >> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive.
>> >> >> > Since I
>> >> >> > used
>> >> >> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without
>> >> >> > using the
>> >> >> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
>> >> >> > before.
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that
>> >> >> > something
>> >> >> > may
>> >> >> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > case,
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP
>> >> >> > CD and
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the
>> >> >> > boot
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Wayne
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>

[Wayne]

I want to report to you all that my problem has been taken care of and the
computer is now operating as it was before the problem started. I ran the
quick test from the WD Data Lifeguard Diagnostics and it passed the test. I
went into the BIOS and placed the drives into the following order: #1-Hard
drive, #2-Floppy disk drive, #3-DVD CD-Rom. I made the IBA boot up last and I
will not disable it unless it causes me problems in the future. I certainly
do appreciate all of you that hung in there with me and giving me your
suggestions. I could not have done it without you good folks. So again, thank
you all very, very much.
--
Wayne


"Ron Sommer" wrote:

> Wayne,
> Change the hard drive to the first boot device.
> If you ever want to boot from the CDRom or floppy drive, you will have it
> listed before the hard drive in the boot order.
>
> The Intel Boot Agent will not attempt to boot as long as a bootable device
> is listed before it in the boot order. (A bootable CD in the CDRom drive, a
> bootable floppy in the floppy drive, or a bootable hard drive.)
> If you looked at the Intel link in my previous post, The Intel Boot Agent
> has to be uninstalled.
>
>
> David,
> D is the CDRom.
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:%23XpgWNseFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If you adjust your monitor to make the picture smaller you'll see that
> message at the bottom of the screen.
>
> It can't find your CDRom drive to boot from, so it tries the floppy, but
> there's no disk in the floppy, so it skips and tries to boot from a network
> server (which won't work because you haven't pressed F12 AND there probably
> isn't a network server), but it should time out on the network server and
> then look for D (what happened to C ?). So make the hard drive #1.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
> =================================================
> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EDD12928-D489-444F-8D71-2B5723297AC0@microsoft.com...
> > David, the 2nd boot drive is [1st floppy drive] which would have to be
> > drive A.
> > The 3rd boot drive is [IBA FE SLOT 0140 v4110]
> > The 4th boot drive is [3M-WDC WD800BB-53DKA01 which is my hard drive. I am
> > not familiar with the 3rd one at all. David! while typing this something
> > light up in my brain. Look at the 3rd boot drive carefully then look at
> > what
> > I wrote earlier about the information on the boot up screen after the
> > Gateway
> > splash screen which is
> > Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10. It sure does look like it is booting from
> > the 3rd boot drive which is the Intel Boot Agent listed above. Is this
> > normal? If so how did it get changed as I have never been in this BIOS
> > before
> > on this computer until today. When I checked it today the 1st boot device
> > was
> > high lighted and I thought it was the one that it was booting from. Then
> > again, remember what I said when this trouble first started, I could not
> > even
> > get into windows without using the MS Windows XP boot up disk. Maybe it
> > changed itself, is that possible? Is it supposed to boot off the hard
> > drive
> > or the floppy first? I am under the impression that it is normally
> > supposed
> > to boot off the hard drive. If it is supposed to boot from the hard drive
> > and
> > it changed on it own to the [IBA] maybe it would not start again if I
> > changed
> > it back to where it normally would be located. I will wait until I hear
> > back
> > from you before I do any more. Thanks for your time and have a good
> > evening.
> >
> > --
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> > "David Candy" wrote:
> >
> >> It should say Press ..., adjust your monitor. What is the second, third,
> >> etc boot device.
> >>
> >> --
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/_comment/001075.html
> >> =================================================
> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FDEB3B46-31A4-4BD7-9F81-D7C4C7FB5DA9@microsoft.com...
> >> > Dave, Rock and Rich, I will answer your answers all at the same time:
> >> > Dave, I
> >> > checked and it does not say to press f12 to boot from network at any
> >> > place on
> >> > the screen.
> >> > Ron, I checked the bios and the bootup shows it is to boot from drive D
> >> > which is a [4M-NEC DVD_RW ND-1300] CD-rom drive. I have never been in
> >> > this
> >> > BIOS before and therefore no changes could have been made by error. I
> >> > did not
> >> > see the Intel Boot Agent listed in the boot sequence. I left it as I
> >> > found it.
> >> >
> >> > Rock, I have downloaded the "Data lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows",
> >> > version 1.02 from Western Digital but I have not run it as of yet. When
> >> > I was
> >> > in the BIOS I saw where the "Hard drive self diagnostics" was
> >> > enable...so I
> >> > thought that was good enough...you can correct me if I am wrong about
> >> > this.
> >> >
> >> > Ron, after the Gateway Splash screen comes the following information
> >> > which
> >> > does not make a lot of sense to me but it may to some one else: The
> >> > below
> >> > information was not visible before my problem started.
> >> >
> >> > Intel (R) Boot Agent Fe v4.1.10
> >> > Copyright (C) 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
> >> >
> >> > Intel (R) Boot Agent PXE Base Code [BA1210BC-GW1]
> >> > Copyright 1997-2003, Intel Corporation
> >> >
> >> > Client MAC ADD:00 0C F1 92 7E 04
> >> > GUI: 000CF192 7E04 2003 1104 130003000000
> >> > DHCP./ followed by a flashing cursor.
> >> >
> >> > After nearly a minute this changes to; PXE MOF: Exiting Intel Boot
> >> > Agent.
> >> > The computer then goes into windows normally. Like I said, the above
> >> > information does not mean very much to me as my knowledge is limited in
> >> > this
> >> > area, and many other areas as well, of course. If any of you can make
> >> > anything out of this information It would be much appreicated. As you
> >> > can
> >> > see, at least I can get into windows without any input. When it first
> >> > started acting up, making those fast clicking noises from the computer,
> >> > I
> >> > used the MS XP disk to get into windows so I could run the tools
> >> > mentioned
> >> > below. When this first started I could not get into windows unless I
> >> > used the
> >> > XP Disk. After I did the error checking, with fix errors box checked,
> >> > and a
> >> > defrag, I was able to get into windows with any input on my part.
> >> > Hopefully
> >> > this information will mean something to one of you, or hopefully all of
> >> > you.
> >> > --
> >> > Wayne
> >> >
> >> > P. S. Rich, I will check and see if there is a forum on the Gateway
> >> > Website.
> >> > Thanks for reminding me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-008018.htm
> >> >> Check your Bios to see if Intel boot agent is listed as a boot device.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Ron Sommer
> >> >>
> >> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:817437C1-F4D8-4C7C-AAE3-2B65096AE7F5@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Rich, I am sorry that I cannot explain this any better. The only
> >> >> > thing I
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > after the Gateway Splash screen are the words: Intel (R)boot agent
> >> >> > FE
> >> >> > v4.1.18
> >> >> > and some other writing that does not make a lot of sense to me. This
> >> >> > stays
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > the screen for a minute or less and then it exits the Intel boot
> >> >> > agent and
> >> >> > then goes into windows. The hard drive is not making any noise at
> >> >> > all,
> >> >> > completely quiet, so I think I will quit while I am still ahead.
> >> >> > Thank you
> >> >> > both for your time
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Oh! one more thing, I used the recovery console from the windows XP
> >> >> > disk
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > at the prompt I typed fixmbr which repairs the startup partition's
> >> >> > master
> >> >> > boot code. However, it still boots into windows the same way. It is
> >> >> > booting
> >> >> > into windows now from the hard drive so I am satisfied with the way
> >> >> > it is.
> >> >> > Before it would only goe past the Gateway Splash screen and then
> >> >> > start
> >> >> > making
> >> >> > the rapid clicking noise. As soon as I ran the error checking , and
> >> >> > for it
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > fix all errors, this seemed to have taken care of this problem.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Wayne
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Rich Barry" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Wayne, since you are talking about a
> >> >> >> Proprietary
> >> >> >> Setup ( Gateway ) it' difficult to advise you. Does Gateway have a
> >> >> >> forum that you can discuss this with? What you are probably
> >> >> >> seeing
> >> >> >> is a
> >> >> >> Verbose Dos Screen that is showing you all the
> >> >> >> drivers and devices that are loading up similar to the way
> >> >> >> Linux
> >> >> >> loads.
> >> >> >> Intel does not have boot files. Your boot.ini is
> >> >> >> provided by WinXP along with ntldr and ntdetect.com
> >> >> >> "Wayne" <Wayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:26070298-625C-4A19-8E66-EC552DEBCE08@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >A few days ago I had problems getting my computer started. It
> >> >> >> >would go
> >> >> >> >just
> >> >> >> > beyond the Gateway Splash Screen and would stop. A clicking noise
> >> >> >> > could
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > heard coming from the computer near the hard drive. I called
> >> >> >> > Gateway
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > they
> >> >> >> > had me run a test on the computer but it did not indicate a hard
> >> >> >> > drive
> >> >> >> > even
> >> >> >> > though they sent me a new one. I have been using the windows XP
> >> >> >> > disk to
> >> >> >> > get
> >> >> >> > into windows instead of the boot up files from the hard drive.
> >> >> >> > Since I
> >> >> >> > used
> >> >> >> > error checking and defrag I can now get into windows without
> >> >> >> > using the
> >> >> >> > windows XP disk. However, it seems to be booting from the boot
> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > intel, what ever that means and it is not the same way as it was
> >> >> >> > before.
> >> >> >> > It
> >> >> >> > takes a lot longer time to get it to boot. I am thinking that
> >> >> >> > something
> >> >> >> > may
> >> >> >> > have happened to my boot up files on the hard drive. If this is
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > case,
> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> > there any way that I can just restore the boot files from the XP
> >> >> >> > CD and
> >> >> >> > try
> >> >> >> > that to see if it works? I do not have any idea why or how the
> >> >> >> > boot
> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> > could have got corrupted. Any help would be appreciated.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Wayne
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>
>