Firefox



MtnKitty68
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.

However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?

Thanks so much for any help on this subject.

Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more vulnerable
than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer is a key component
of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.

For additional Internet Explorer assistance:

Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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"MtnKitty68" wrote:

| I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
| default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
| than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
|
| However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
| Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
|
| Thanks so much for any help on this subject.

Alias
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
"MtnKitty68" <MtnKitty68@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
> default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
> than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
>
> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
> Firefox?

Make Firefox your default browser. Open Firefox and go to
Tools/Options/General

> And more importantly, how do I remove IE?

DON'T! You need it for Windows Updates and some sites won't work well with
Firefox. Also, it is an integral part of Windows.

Alias

Alias
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote

> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more vulnerable
> than alternative third-party browsers.

Horsepucky. Ever hear of ActiveX? Not only that, it doesn't have tab
browsing among many other useful features.

Alias

andy smart
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
MtnKitty68 wrote:
> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
> default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
> than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
>
> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
> Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>
> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.

I like Firefox, and use it a lot. However as it gets more popular then
there will be more ways found to attack it's insecurities. I run both as
the need arises.

GTS
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
I assume you're using paid Juno with their software. If so, you should
direct this question to Juno support. I believe they wrap the IE engine in
their own functionality and they may or may not have an answer.

BTW, although SP2 does narrow the gap, it's very doubtful that IE is as
secure as Firefox due to it's deep (and largely senseless) integration into
Windows. You can't remove IE completely for the same reason. It's also
needed for Windows update.
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"MtnKitty68" <MtnKitty68@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A9203A9B-15AF-41D6-801F-DA289B143C89@microsoft.com...
> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
> default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
> than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
>
> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
> Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>
> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.

JS
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more vulnerable
> than alternative third-party browsers.

More FUD from the resident MS sycophant.

Pathetic, really.

JimJim2001
07-10-2005, 12:54 AM
"MtnKitty68" wrote:

> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
> default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
> than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
>
> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
> Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>
> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.

Curmudgeon
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
> Not only that, it doesn't have tab
> browsing among many other useful features.

HEAR! HEAR!

I was a user of a registered - read: PAYED FOR - version of Netscape
back in the "old days", but switched to IE when it became an integrated
part of the OS (must've been almost 10 years ago).

I switched to Firefox when it left beta, and for the most part I've not
looked back. GREAT program, GREAT plugins. Blows IE away (but still
doesn't read all web pages as well as IE).

It's the DEFAULT browser on my system, not for security reasons, but
because I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TABBED BROWSING. I use IE only for Windows
Update (nothing else works).

Oh... I almost forgot: Carey is a doofus. Always was, always will be.

The next time he has an original thought will be the FIRST time.

Fuzzy Logic
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in
news:OKSH4mrZFHA.1448@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote
>
>> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more
>> vulnerable than alternative third-party browsers.
>
> Horsepucky. Ever hear of ActiveX? Not only that, it doesn't have tab
> browsing among many other useful features.

ActiveX is only a threat if you have it enabled. It's simple to disable.
There are many 3rd party shells that use IE's rendering engine and have
much more security than IE. Maxthon and Avant come to mind.

Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
In article <eUTbujrZFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>,
cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...
> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more vulnerable
> than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer is a key component
> of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
>
> For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
>
> Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser

Carey, MS STILL gives instructions on how to secure it, and nothing in
the updates have made those changes to users systems. IE is still a very
viable threat to computers.

While FireFox is not perfect, it's a LOT safer than IE has ever been.


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Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
In article <A9203A9B-15AF-41D6-801F-DA289B143C89@microsoft.com>,
MtnKitty68@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
> default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
> than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
>
> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
> Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>
> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.

Open the CONTROL PANEL, ADD REMOVE PROGRAMS, select SET PROGRAM ACCESS
and DEFAULTS, Expand the CUSTOM branch, Under Default Web Browser,
select "Mozilla FireFox" and then OK button - don't disable IE, just set
FireFox - from this point apps will open with FF instead of IE.

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Don Burnette
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
That did not answer the question asked.
I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.

To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet properties,
look around you'll find it.
I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.


Don Burnette



Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more
> vulnerable than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer
> is a key component of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
>
> For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
>
> Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>
>
>> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer
>> as my default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less
>> vulnerable than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and
>> like it alot.
>>
>> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno
>> open to Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>>
>> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.



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R. McCarty
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
Iexplore.Exe is a WFP (Windows File Protected) module. If you
rename/move/delete it, XP will silently replace it. Best to not try
and remove or disable it, just set your preferred browser as Don
suggested.

"Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OusPt6vZFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> That did not answer the question asked.
> I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.
>
> To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet
> properties, look around you'll find it.
> I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.
>
>
> Don Burnette
>
>
>
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more
>> vulnerable than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer
>> is a key component of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
>>
>> For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
>>
>> Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>>
>>
>>> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer
>>> as my default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less
>>> vulnerable than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and
>>> like it alot.
>>>
>>> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno
>>> open to Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.
>
>
>
> --
>
>

Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
In article <OusPt6vZFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net says...
> That did not answer the question asked.
> I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.
>
> To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet properties,
> look around you'll find it.
> I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.

You have to set it through Program Access Defaults in the Add-Remove
Programs section or it doesn't seem to take for all applications that
request it.



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Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
The best feature of FireFox is it uninstalls quite nicely.

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"Leythos" wrote:

| Carey, MS STILL gives instructions on how to secure it, and nothing in
| the updates have made those changes to users systems. IE is still a very
| viable threat to computers.
|
| While FireFox is not perfect, it's a LOT safer than IE has ever been.

Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
In article <#5$u5awZFHA.3032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>,
cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...
> The best feature of FireFox is it uninstalls quite nicely.

How the heck did you get nominated for MVP with your simple, closed
minded, lack of experience?

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Don Burnette
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
If that is a feature, then it is one IE is sorely lacking isn't it.

Again, nothing to do with the OP's question... so why bother?

Don Burnette



Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> The best feature of FireFox is it uninstalls quite nicely.
>
>
>> Carey, MS STILL gives instructions on how to secure it, and nothing
>> in the updates have made those changes to users systems. IE is still
>> a very viable threat to computers.
>>
>> While FireFox is not perfect, it's a LOT safer than IE has ever been.

KLH
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more vulnerable
> than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer is a key component
> of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
>
> For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
>
> Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>


Absolutely astounding information. He did not ask you about security on
IE yet you volunteered this fud without even trying to answer the
question asked.

Why did you even bother replying to the question if you could not
provide anything to help?

GTS
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
See http://www.juno.com/support/browser/jn/50-use-own-browser.html for the
definitive answer.
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"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:%232%23lOKsZFHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I assume you're using paid Juno with their software. If so, you should
>direct this question to Juno support. I believe they wrap the IE engine in
>their own functionality and they may or may not have an answer.
>
> BTW, although SP2 does narrow the gap, it's very doubtful that IE is as
> secure as Firefox due to it's deep (and largely senseless) integration
> into Windows. You can't remove IE completely for the same reason. It's
> also needed for Windows update.
> --
>
> "MtnKitty68" <MtnKitty68@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A9203A9B-15AF-41D6-801F-DA289B143C89@microsoft.com...
>> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer as my
>> default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less vulnerable
>> than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and like it alot.
>>
>> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno open to
>> Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>>
>> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.
>
>

Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
Helping folks solve problems...a skill and talent you apparently lack.

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"Leythos" wrote:
|
| How the heck did you get nominated for MVP with your simple, closed
| minded, lack of experience?

Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
And your talented contribution rates a solid ZERO (0).

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"KLH" wrote:

| Absolutely astounding information. He did not ask you about security on
| IE yet you volunteered this fud without even trying to answer the
| question asked.
|
| Why did you even bother replying to the question if you could not
| provide anything to help?

KLH
07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> And your talented contribution rates a solid ZERO (0).
>

Far better than yours, check below, I provided the answer to his
question. You need an attitude adjustment. Just because your life
ain't so great doesn't mean you have to be a jerk.

Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
In article <eC0NNwxZFHA.2496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...
> Helping folks solve problems...a skill and talent you apparently lack.

As I provided an answer that was directly helpful and you only provided
FUD, how do you feel that you helped in any way.

In this thread I've not seen you provide any help and only provide FUD
and misinformation. IE is still not a secure browser, if it was, users
would not have so many tool-bars and spyware being installed on their
systems in the default configuration.

As it stands, most users running FireFox, even an older .9/1.0 version
are far more secure anywhere on the web than using IE with SP2 in its
default config.

If users follow the MS recommendation to secure IE, unless they also
follow the recommendation on adding sites to the trusted zone, they will
find most websites broken or unusable. If the same users just blindly
add sites to the trusted zone, as many users would do, they will have
their systems compromised in short order.

You should take a step back, take a good look at how IE is use and how
FireFox is used, then how each react in different situations - if you
have any technical skills for evaluation you will admit that FF is a
more secure browser by default than IE (even with SP2).



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MtnKitty68
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
Gee, guys. Thanks. This is WAY more than I was expecting! :)

"Leythos" wrote:

> In article <OusPt6vZFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>,
> d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net says...
> > That did not answer the question asked.
> > I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.
> >
> > To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet properties,
> > look around you'll find it.
> > I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.
>
> You have to set it through Program Access Defaults in the Add-Remove
> Programs section or it doesn't seem to take for all applications that
> request it.
>
>
>
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Fuzzy Logic
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in news:MPG.1d08b81fca67a5a8989869@news-
server.columbus.rr.com:

> In article <eC0NNwxZFHA.2496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
> cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...

> In this thread I've not seen you provide any help and only provide FUD
> and misinformation. IE is still not a secure browser, if it was, users
> would not have so many tool-bars and spyware being installed on their
> systems in the default configuration.

I do user support for over 600 people (all using IE) I can attest to much
spyware. Their browser is locked down pretty well by our policies and is NOT
the way this stuff gets in. They get the spyware because they download
'free' screensavers, games and other crap that contains spyware. Switching
to Firefox will not stop users from doing dumb things.

> As it stands, most users running FireFox, even an older .9/1.0 version
> are far more secure anywhere on the web than using IE with SP2 in its
> default config.
>
> If users follow the MS recommendation to secure IE, unless they also
> follow the recommendation on adding sites to the trusted zone, they will
> find most websites broken or unusable. If the same users just blindly
> add sites to the trusted zone, as many users would do, they will have
> their systems compromised in short order.

I've been using IE for years without a single security related incident and
I spend a LOT of time surfing.

> You should take a step back, take a good look at how IE is use and how
> FireFox is used, then how each react in different situations - if you
> have any technical skills for evaluation you will admit that FF is a
> more secure browser by default than IE (even with SP2).

It's marginally more secure than a properly configured version of IE. The
big difference is that Firefox users tend to be more computer savvy and
therefore are less likely to do potentially harmful things while surfing.

Security is just one aspect of a browser. If all we cared about was security
we would all be driving Volvo's.

Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
In article <Xns9669737125DDEbobarcabca@207.46.248.16>,
bob@arc.ab.caREMOVETHIS says...
> Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in news:MPG.1d08b81fca67a5a8989869@news-
> server.columbus.rr.com:
>
> > In article <eC0NNwxZFHA.2496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
> > cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...
>
> > In this thread I've not seen you provide any help and only provide FUD
> > and misinformation. IE is still not a secure browser, if it was, users
> > would not have so many tool-bars and spyware being installed on their
> > systems in the default configuration.
>
> I do user support for over 600 people (all using IE) I can attest to much
> spyware. Their browser is locked down pretty well by our policies and is NOT
> the way this stuff gets in. They get the spyware because they download
> 'free' screensavers, games and other crap that contains spyware. Switching
> to Firefox will not stop users from doing dumb things.

We're in the same position, but I've moved my users from IE to FireFox
as a matter of support ROI. While users with properly secured/locked
down IE settings are able to surf, in most cases, most websites they
connect to are broken due to being locked down. At the same time, users
are mostly incapable of adding sites to the trusted zone because they
don't remember to do it - and the ones that do remember are adding sites
that should not be added to it.

Sure, FF doesn't stop users from doing stupid things, but stupid users
can browse more sites without being compromised than with IE.

You need to separate the two types of users - there are unmanaged users
and there are managed users. In the case of Unmanaged users, FF is a
better choice. In the case of Managed Users, IE, if properly configured
makes a reasonable choice.

> > As it stands, most users running FireFox, even an older .9/1.0 version
> > are far more secure anywhere on the web than using IE with SP2 in its
> > default config.
> >
> > If users follow the MS recommendation to secure IE, unless they also
> > follow the recommendation on adding sites to the trusted zone, they will
> > find most websites broken or unusable. If the same users just blindly
> > add sites to the trusted zone, as many users would do, they will have
> > their systems compromised in short order.
>
> I've been using IE for years without a single security related incident and
> I spend a LOT of time surfing.

So have I, but I use both, and I'm not one to surf questionable sites
and know what should / should NOT be clicked on. Most users, the
unmanaged ones in small offices/homes don't have a clue.

> > You should take a step back, take a good look at how IE is use and how
> > FireFox is used, then how each react in different situations - if you
> > have any technical skills for evaluation you will admit that FF is a
> > more secure browser by default than IE (even with SP2).
>
> It's marginally more secure than a properly configured version of IE. The
> big difference is that Firefox users tend to be more computer savvy and
> therefore are less likely to do potentially harmful things while surfing.

I can count the hours saved on workstation maintenance since moving
users to FireFox - in most cases we've changed the access defaults so
that FF is the primary browser, and users seem to leave it set that way.
I've only found two instances where we had to let IE remain as the
primary browser, and that was due to a poorly written .Net application.

I think you've missed the market - fire fox users have to be slightly
more technical in that they were looking for a browser replacement in
most cases, but there are masses of them that get FF due to a friends
recommendation, not because they are technical.

I will continue to push FF out to clients until I see some reason to
move them back to IE as the primary. Besides, with a 15% savings in
hours per month, it's a measurable difference now that we're using FF.

> Security is just one aspect of a browser. If all we cared about was security
> we would all be driving Volvo's.

And you could say that many other cars provide better transportation and
functions than a Volvo, and some of those vehicles are also safer when
properly configured than the Volvo.


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Dilip
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
Also, WU won't work without IE and the piggy backing services set to Auto...


"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eehlRAwZFHA.3220@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Iexplore.Exe is a WFP (Windows File Protected) module. If you
> rename/move/delete it, XP will silently replace it. Best to not try
> and remove or disable it, just set your preferred browser as Don
> suggested.
>
> "Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:OusPt6vZFHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> That did not answer the question asked.
>> I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.
>>
>> To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet
>> properties, look around you'll find it.
>> I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.
>>
>>
>> Don Burnette
>>
>>
>>
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more
>>> vulnerable than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer
>>> is a key component of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
>>>
>>> For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
>>>
>>> Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer
>>>> as my default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less
>>>> vulnerable than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and
>>>> like it alot.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno
>>>> open to Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>

Leythos
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
In article <eSefrG6ZFHA.3492@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...
> Also, WU won't work without IE and the piggy backing services set to Auto...

With FF set as the default browser, and set as the default in Program
Defaults, automatic windows update works perfectly.

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MtnKitty68
07-10-2005, 12:56 AM
Thank you all for your incredible input. I would hope to think I wasn't one
of the uninformed. I am sticking with the Firefox and using IE for updates,
as one intelligent fellow remarked. MK


"Don Burnette" wrote:

> That did not answer the question asked.
> I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.
>
> To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet properties,
> look around you'll find it.
> I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.
>
>
> Don Burnette
>
>
>
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> > With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more
> > vulnerable than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer
> > is a key component of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
> >
> > For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
> >
> > Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
> >
> >
> >> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer
> >> as my default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is less
> >> vulnerable than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have Firefox, and
> >> like it alot.
> >>
> >> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno
> >> open to Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>

Don Burnette
07-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Good choice, that is exactly what I do as well...

Don Burnette




MtnKitty68 wrote:
> Thank you all for your incredible input. I would hope to think I
> wasn't one of the uninformed. I am sticking with the Firefox and
> using IE for updates, as one intelligent fellow remarked. MK
>
>
> "Don Burnette" wrote:
>
>> That did not answer the question asked.
>> I use Firefox as well, and much prefer it as a browser.
>>
>> To the OP - just set Firefox as your default browser in internet
>> properties, look around you'll find it.
>> I would not recommend trying to uninstall IE.
>>
>>
>> Don Burnette
>>
>>
>>
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>> With the latest updates installed, Internet Explorer is no more
>>> vulnerable than alternative third-party browsers. Internet Explorer
>>> is a key component of Windows XP and cannot be removed by design.
>>>
>>> For additional Internet Explorer assistance:
>>>
>>> Please visit the Internet Explorer newsgroup experts:
>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've been advised by a couple of MVP's to not use Internet Explorer
>>>> as my default browser.... to use Firefox instead, because it is
>>>> less vulnerable than Internet Explorer. I therefore, have
>>>> Firefox, and like it alot.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm using Juno, which opens to IE. How do I have Juno
>>>> open to Firefox? And more importantly, how do I remove IE?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for any help on this subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> --

Dilip
07-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Please follow the thread. I was referring to the possibility of removing IE
completely.

I am aware of what you posted. FF is my default browser as well.


"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d0925dfb5aebaa998986f@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> In article <eSefrG6ZFHA.3492@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, a@b.com says...
>> Also, WU won't work without IE and the piggy backing services set to
>> Auto...
>
> With FF set as the default browser, and set as the default in Program
> Defaults, automatic windows update works perfectly.
>
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jimpgh2002
07-10-2005, 12:58 AM
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:04:59 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>The best feature of FireFox is it uninstalls quite nicely.

You appear to be the opposite of those people who hate
anything fom MS.
I've switched to FF as my default browser, preferring it over
Avant or Maxthon, which at least feature tabbed browsing.
I.E. may be fine for some, but I don't know how any serious
I.T. person can use it instead of something that allows tabs.

Fuzzy Logic
07-10-2005, 01:02 AM
jimpgh2002 <pmojh1@xxnospamxxhotmail.com> wrote in
news:hbu1a1h5qka72qrh374i7c1bvc665p81ga@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 19:04:59 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
><cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The best feature of FireFox is it uninstalls quite nicely.
>
> You appear to be the opposite of those people who hate
> anything fom MS.
> I've switched to FF as my default browser, preferring it over
> Avant or Maxthon, which at least feature tabbed browsing.
> I.E. may be fine for some, but I don't know how any serious
> I.T. person can use it instead of something that allows tabs.
>

I'm a comical I.T. person and I like tabs!?

PS don't browse untrusted sites with FF until this get's fixed:

http://secunia.com/advisories/11978/


Firefox