Saving updates?



JS
07-09-2005, 11:54 PM
Hi all

Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?

I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of time
and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for each machine.

Any ideas?

Thorsten Matzner
07-09-2005, 11:54 PM
JS <user@example.net> wrote:

>Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?

See "Automatic Updates Downloads Cannot Be Installed on Other
Computers" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283147).

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Jon
07-09-2005, 11:54 PM
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

Jon


"JS" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:3g5566Fai7h5U1@individual.net...
> Hi all
>
> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>
> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of time
> and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for each machine.
>
> Any ideas?

TaurArian
07-09-2005, 11:54 PM
You can download them from the Catalog and save to be installed later.
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
How to Download Windows Updates and Drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166

Click Add button for each update you want to download. Once you have what you want,
Click the "Go To Download Basket" link. Type in or browse to the location where you
want the updates saved to and then Click the "Download Now" button.
Once downloaded, you can then burn them to CD.

Other links which may be of interest:

Search for a download
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylang=en

How to install multiple Windows updates or hotfixes with only one reboot
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296861


"JS" <user@example.net> wrote in message news:3g5566Fai7h5U1@individual.net...
> Hi all
>
> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>
> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of time and
> bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for each machine.
>
> Any ideas?

MoiMeme
07-09-2005, 11:54 PM
I use WUTool ( windows update tool) : it connects to the windows automatic
update center, downloads and saves updates to a folder you specify, then
launches install of the updates.
That way no need to know what to download, what you already have, etc.
Simply launch WUtool instead of Windows update.

Look here : http://ovacia.amicom.ru/wutool_eng.html

Haven't found it to be a source a problem or virus or else ( functions Ok,
system remains Ok, checked with 3 AV/ antispy / antitrojan : so is
reasonnably secure)

Phil
"JS" <user@example.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
3g5566Fai7h5U1@individual.net...
> Hi all
>
> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>
> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of time
> and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for each machine.
>
> Any ideas?

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:54 PM
JS wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>
> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
> time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
> each machine.
> Any ideas?

http://www.microscum.com/comsense/

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Stephen
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
JS wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>>
>> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
>> time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
>> each machine.
>>
>> Any ideas?

It's a waste of time to do anything else. Make sure Auto updating is on and
then just hook 'em up and leave 'em on for a bit and they will all dutifully
download the updates. Go have lunch or go out for a coffee and a donut. When
you come back to them they will be all done.

In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download in the
background while they are connected to the Internet. No big deal.

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Stephen wrote:
> JS wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>>>
>>> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
>>> time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
>>> each machine.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>
> It's a waste of time to do anything else. Make sure Auto updating is
> on and then just hook 'em up and leave 'em on for a bit and they will
> all dutifully download the updates. Go have lunch or go out for a
> coffee and a donut. When you come back to them they will be all done.
>
> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download
> in the background while they are connected to the Internet. No big
> deal.

Except when it goes wrong! All Auto Update does is add another layer
that can go wrong between you downloading and installing patches.

Anyone with common sense would turn it off! Most major corporation turn
it off.

http://www.microscum.com/comsense/

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JS
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Stephen wrote:
> JS wrote:
>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>>>
>>>I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
>>>time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
>>>each machine.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>
>
> It's a waste of time to do anything else. Make sure Auto updating is on and
> then just hook 'em up and leave 'em on for a bit and they will all dutifully
> download the updates. Go have lunch or go out for a coffee and a donut. When
> you come back to them they will be all done.
>
> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download in the
> background while they are connected to the Internet. No big deal.

Except...each machine will be running a limited account.

How does automatic updating work in that case?

Stephen
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
kurttrail wrote:
>> Stephen wrote:
>>> <clip>
>>> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download
>>> in the background while they are connected to the Internet. No big
>>> deal.
>>
>> Except when it goes wrong! All Auto Update does is add another layer
>> that can go wrong between you downloading and installing patches.
>>
>> Anyone with common sense would turn it off! Most major corporation
>> turn it off.
>>
>> http://www.microscum.com/comsense/
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt

Kurt, auto-updating works just fine here.

Fitz
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
You could make (burn) an XP install disk using XP Create which will
download and integrate the updates into the installation package. When you
install XP using the disk you created, all updates (except Direct X) are
included. The created disk retains the activation and registration
information, so is completely legal.

Fitz

Rock
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Stephen wrote:

> JS wrote:
>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>>>
>>>I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
>>>time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
>>>each machine.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>
>
> It's a waste of time to do anything else. Make sure Auto updating is on and
> then just hook 'em up and leave 'em on for a bit and they will all dutifully
> download the updates. Go have lunch or go out for a coffee and a donut. When
> you come back to them they will be all done.
>
> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download in the
> background while they are connected to the Internet. No big deal.
>
>

I will disagree here. Automatic updates can lead to problems including
the installation of driver's for the windows update site which should
not be done. Better to use the manual update, go to WU, use the custom
install, look over each update to see if it's really needed, then
download and install the ones you want.

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Robert Meek
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
...And that's a fact! After about four full days of trying to solve my
shutdown problems with all of Microsoft's many methods, patches, and
utilities, not to mention a 35 dollar call to tech support in New Delhi, and
completely reformatting and then re-applying everything all over again, I
finally found the root of my problem! In order to get my Win XP Pro SP 2
system to shutdown and restart correctly I had to set it up for selective
startup and completely disable the automatic updating service! Just turning
off automatic updates wouldn't do it! The problem now is how the hell to
get patches and updates because now even the manual service doesn't work!
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:elTP3LtZFHA.3808@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Stephen wrote:
>> JS wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>>>>
>>>> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
>>>> time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
>>>> each machine.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> It's a waste of time to do anything else. Make sure Auto updating is
>> on and then just hook 'em up and leave 'em on for a bit and they will
>> all dutifully download the updates. Go have lunch or go out for a
>> coffee and a donut. When you come back to them they will be all done.
>>
>> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download
>> in the background while they are connected to the Internet. No big
>> deal.
>
> Except when it goes wrong! All Auto Update does is add another layer that
> can go wrong between you downloading and installing patches.
>
> Anyone with common sense would turn it off! Most major corporation turn
> it off.
>
> http://www.microscum.com/comsense/
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Stephen wrote:
> kurttrail wrote:
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>> <clip>
>>>> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will
>>>> download in the background while they are connected to the
>>>> Internet. No big deal.
>>>
>>> Except when it goes wrong! All Auto Update does is add another
>>> layer that can go wrong between you downloading and installing
>>> patches.
>>>
>>> Anyone with common sense would turn it off! Most major corporation
>>> turn it off.
>>>
>>> http://www.microscum.com/comsense/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>
> Kurt, auto-updating works just fine here.

LOL! I didn't say it didn't. Only that you are using another layer of
code that can go wrong.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=Automatic+Update&num=10&scoring=r&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=microsoft.public.windowsxp.*&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2005&safe=off

It doesn't work right for a lot of people!

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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Robert Meek wrote:
> ...And that's a fact! After about four full days of trying to
> solve my shutdown problems with all of Microsoft's many methods,
> patches, and utilities, not to mention a 35 dollar call to tech
> support in New Delhi, and completely reformatting and then
> re-applying everything all over again, I finally found the root of my
> problem! In order to get my Win XP Pro SP 2 system to shutdown and
> restart correctly I had to set it up for selective startup and
> completely disable the automatic updating service! Just turning off
> automatic updates wouldn't do it! The problem now is how the hell to
> get patches and updates because now even the manual service doesn't
> work!

http://www.microscum.com/comsense/ on this page the link to:

http://kurttrail.com/microscum/postsp2 will get you all the critical
updates and a few that MS doesn't rate as critical.

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MoiMeme
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
I agree.
I do not and will never accept something to download and/or install without
my specific acceptance and awareness ( so I know why suddenly something
doesn't work anymore, and for sure "MS certified" drivers are far from being
allways better than hardware manufacturer recent ones; not to mention things
you perhaps do not need ( eg media player))
I do updates, but need to know when, what and why I do it. After all it is
my PC.
Do all "automatic updates"-pros accept that when they bring their car to the
garage for maintenance, anything be done on their car without being warned
beforehand ? I do not.
Same for my antivirus, antispam : I do all of them manually : not so time
consuming ( a couple of minutes per week). None of the is allowed to do
auto-updates.


Phil

"Rock" <rock@mail.nospam.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
upHwJWtZFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> JS wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi all
>>>>
>>>>Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>>>>
>>>>I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of
>>>>time and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for
>>>>each machine.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> It's a waste of time to do anything else. Make sure Auto updating is on
>> and then just hook 'em up and leave 'em on for a bit and they will all
>> dutifully download the updates. Go have lunch or go out for a coffee and
>> a donut. When you come back to them they will be all done.
>>
>> In the long term, just leave Auto updating on and each will download in
>> the background while they are connected to the Internet. No big deal.
>
> I will disagree here. Automatic updates can lead to problems including
> the installation of driver's for the windows update site which should not
> be done. Better to use the manual update, go to WU, use the custom
> install, look over each update to see if it's really needed, then download
> and install the ones you want.
>
> --
> Rock
> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

Shooter
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:07:49 -0800, "Fitz" <akfitz@mtaonline.net>
wrote:

>You could make (burn) an XP install disk using XP Create

I read on another NG that there is a problem getting the guy that
writes this program to make the program available to people that have
done as he requested and "Properly" filled out all his paperwork. I
was interested in such a program but if he's that way...... You know,
relate this to how his support would be.....

Regards,

Peter Foldes
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
Also what you might want to do is to fix your Time. You are posting from the future

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"JS" <user@example.net> wrote in message news:3g5566Fai7h5U1@individual.net...
> Hi all
>
> Is there a way to save Windows updates for local installation?
>
> I have to install XP Pro on 4 machines and it feels like a waste of time
> and bandwidth to download the same 12MB or so of updates for each machine.
>
> Any ideas?

Fitz
07-09-2005, 11:55 PM
XP Create isn't the only program that you can use. I used XP Create, and had
no problems downloading it. I don't believe the developer offers "support"
as such- it's a free download. There is a forum available. It does assume a
certain amount of knowledge if you intend to add items like 3rd party
drivers, but for creating just an XP disk with the updates and patches, it's
pretty straight forward.

Fitz

JS
07-09-2005, 11:56 PM
Peter Foldes wrote:
> Also what you might want to do is to fix your Time. You are posting from the future

Yeah, sorry about that. Not sure how it happened.

Don
07-10-2005, 12:07 AM
A Google search for "XP Create" gave back nada. Can you provide link
to this program?
Thanks.

Don
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:08:33 -0800, "Fitz" <akfitz@mtaonline.net>
wrote:

>XP Create isn't the only program that you can use. I used XP Create, and had
>no problems downloading it. I don't believe the developer offers "support"
>as such- it's a free download. There is a forum available. It does assume a
>certain amount of knowledge if you intend to add items like 3rd party
>drivers, but for creating just an XP disk with the updates and patches, it's
>pretty straight forward.
>
>Fitz
>

thinman
07-10-2005, 12:07 AM
http://xpcreate.com/index.htm ?


"Don" <RBSI.Las.Cruces@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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>A Google search for "XP Create" gave back nada. Can you provide link
> to this program?
> Thanks.
>
> Don
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:08:33 -0800, "Fitz" <akfitz@mtaonline.net>
> wrote:
>
>>XP Create isn't the only program that you can use. I used XP Create, and
>>had
>>no problems downloading it. I don't believe the developer offers "support"
>>as such- it's a free download. There is a forum available. It does assume
>>a
>>certain amount of knowledge if you intend to add items like 3rd party
>>drivers, but for creating just an XP disk with the updates and patches,
>>it's
>>pretty straight forward.
>>
>>Fitz
>>
>


Saving updates?