Alternatives?



the staring frogs of Southern Iberia
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
I think from trolling the NG's that I understand that Norton is a
resource hog. A friend has the Suite that seems to be bogging down the box.
I myself use S&D, Adaware and AVG free and seem to be okay. What are the
alternatives if you're using the Norton Suite and want to or should switch?
I've heard about Kerio, AVG Pro and others but haven't used them.

Jones
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
"the staring frogs of Southern Iberia"
<kissmyassallyouspammers@go.shityourself.com> wrote in message
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> I think from trolling the NG's that I understand that Norton is a
> resource hog. A friend has the Suite that seems to be bogging down the
> box.
> I myself use S&D, Adaware and AVG free and seem to be okay. What are the
> alternatives if you're using the Norton Suite and want to or should
> switch?
> I've heard about Kerio, AVG Pro and others but haven't used them.

Hi,
I have tried everything including the freeware route, I have come to the
conclusion the freeware AVG is not as good as the other heavyweights such as
Trend Micro and Norton, getting a virus can basically sometimes mean you
have to reformat as I did, Therefore I am using Norton. You can get a 90day
free trial if you go tto the microsoft antivirus partners list
>
On a big computer it should not make that much difference. I don't notice
any difference, I also use their firewall. And have had not one single
infection since I've started using it.
>

the staring frogs of Southern Iberia
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
I think my friend has a PII with Win98 on the box. He says after
being online for awhile the connection seems to bog down. He has S&D along
with Norton. His type of access is DSL. I'm thinking that Norton is just
eating up his resources. I couldn't offer any other choices. I kept drawing
blanks when it came to alternatives.

Jones
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
"the staring frogs of Southern Iberia"
<kissmyassallyouspammers@go.shityourself.com> wrote in message
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> I think my friend has a PII with Win98 on the box. He says after
> being online for awhile the connection seems to bog down. He has S&D along
> with Norton. His type of access is DSL. I'm thinking that Norton is just
> eating up his resources. I couldn't offer any other choices. I kept
> drawing
> blanks when it came to alternatives.
>
Well then resources would be limited in that case, and anything that is a
big program I imagine can have an adverse effect on the pc performance.
>

Admiral Michael
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
I dont use anything past NAV 2003.


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Michael Stevens
07-09-2005, 11:51 PM
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the staring frogs of Southern Iberia
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> I think from trolling the NG's

Actually that would be lurking. Trolling is when you post either a subject
line or a combination of subjects and/or messages that stir the emotions of
the newsgroup.
Just like fishing, you have to set the bait to troll. Lurking would learning
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Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 11:51 PM
the staring frogs of Southern Iberia wrote:
> I think from trolling the NG's that I understand that Norton is a
> resource hog. A friend has the Suite that seems to be bogging down the box.
> I myself use S&D, Adaware and AVG free and seem to be okay. What are the
> alternatives if you're using the Norton Suite and want to or should switch?
> I've heard about Kerio, AVG Pro and others but haven't used them.
>
>


You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will
responses.

I used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet
Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all
without any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that.
But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee
products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they
were acquired by Network Associates.

However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton
Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially
higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less
expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of
GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ) and the
free version of Sygate's Personal Firewall
(http://smb.sygate.com/free/default.php ). Both have proven to be
easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I
was pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable
improvement in my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec
product.

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t.cruise
07-09-2005, 11:51 PM
AVG Free has always worked for me and my clients. Regardless of which antivirus program
you use, it won't be effective unless you: Keep the definitions up to date, use safe
internet practices, have a decent firewall and know how to use it, avoid peer to peer worm
laden traps (Kaaza etc), say no to free toolbars and search utilities, say no to Active X
controllers unless you know exactly what they are and that you absolutely must have them
(otherwise pass). AVG Free is not a resource hog, is extremely user friendly, and updates
definitions on an almost daily basis. Different people will have different opinions, some
swear by Norton. I have had clients who were anal about doing Norton Live Updates, and
who still managed to be infected with 20+ viruses/worms. No antivirus program can claim
to keep you completely safe from infection. But, if you follow the advice above you
should be OK. Always keep in mind the first rule of using a PC: Backup anything that you
would not want to lose. Even if you don't get a virus/worm, your hard drive could fail.
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"the staring frogs of Southern Iberia" <kissmyassallyouspammers@go.shityourself.com> wrote
in message news:OHU978LZFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I think from trolling the NG's that I understand that Norton is a
> resource hog. A friend has the Suite that seems to be bogging down the box.
> I myself use S&D, Adaware and AVG free and seem to be okay. What are the
> alternatives if you're using the Norton Suite and want to or should switch?
> I've heard about Kerio, AVG Pro and others but haven't used them.
>
>

Jones
07-09-2005, 11:52 PM
"t.cruise" <t__cruise@[NoSpam]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> AVG Free has always worked for me and my clients. Regardless of which
> antivirus program
> you use, it won't be effective unless you: Keep the definitions up to
> date, use safe
> internet practices, have a decent firewall and know how to use it, avoid
> peer to peer worm
> laden traps (Kaaza etc), say no to free toolbars and search utilities, say
> no to Active X
> controllers unless you know exactly what they are and that you absolutely
> must have them
> (otherwise pass). AVG Free is not a resource hog, is extremely user
> friendly, and updates
> definitions on an almost daily basis. Different people will have
> different opinions, some
> swear by Norton. I have had clients who were anal about doing Norton Live
> Updates, and
> who still managed to be infected with 20+ viruses/worms. No antivirus
> program can claim
> to keep you completely safe from infection. But, if you follow the advice
> above you
> should be OK. Always keep in mind the first rule of using a PC: Backup
> anything that you
> would not want to lose. Even if you don't get a virus/worm, your hard
> drive could fail.
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>
> T.C.
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Hi,
Regarding AVG it is free, and tests have been done under laboritory
conditions and it is not as good as the paid ones. That is the problem, I
experienced it myself so I personally confirm what the test found. AVG does
not stop all of them, but as you say, it is not a resource hog, but it is
definitely not as good as the other paid heavyweights at stopping, this was
confirmed by independant tests and by my own personal experience. I have
never had a virus infection since I started using firewalls plus updated
heavweights, eg. macafee, or norton, or trend.
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> "the staring frogs of Southern Iberia"
> <kissmyassallyouspammers@go.shityourself.com> wrote
> in message news:OHU978LZFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> I think from trolling the NG's that I understand that Norton is a
>> resource hog. A friend has the Suite that seems to be bogging down the
>> box.
>> I myself use S&D, Adaware and AVG free and seem to be okay. What are the
>> alternatives if you're using the Norton Suite and want to or should
>> switch?
>> I've heard about Kerio, AVG Pro and others but haven't used them.
>>
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the staring frogs of Southern Iberia
07-09-2005, 11:52 PM
Lurking, Trolling. Probably shoulda said hanging around. Thanks for
the suggestions. I myself use AVG, Adaware and S&D faithfully. When I tried
to suggest to my friend other options I just kept drawing a blank. Will
forward all this info. Love these NG's.

... et al.
07-09-2005, 11:53 PM
the staring frogs of Southern Iberia wrote:

> I think from trolling the NG's that I understand that Norton is a
> resource hog. A friend has the Suite that seems to be bogging down the box.
> I myself use S&D, Adaware and AVG free and seem to be okay. What are the
> alternatives if you're using the Norton Suite and want to or should switch?
> I've heard about Kerio, AVG Pro and others but haven't used them.

There are probably countless sites listing the freeware (& sometimes
also the payware) alternatives. Here are links to the lists at one site:

<http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/antivirus.shtml>
<http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/firewalls.shtml>
<http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/spywareremoval.shtml>

While Bruce had settled on one pair of AntiVirus/Firewall software, i
have (for the while) settled on another pair:
H+BEDV Datentechnik's AntiVir Personal Edition (very unobtrusive) &
Kerio Technologies's Personal Firewall (very configurable).

Test different ones and see what fits your taste and practices.
Just beware of rogue anti-Malware programs you may encounter:
<http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm>
It is a jungle out there!

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Bob I
07-09-2005, 11:53 PM
There is ZoneAlarm for free firewall also.

the staring frogs of Southern Iberia wrote:

> Lurking, Trolling. Probably shoulda said hanging around. Thanks for
> the suggestions. I myself use AVG, Adaware and S&D faithfully. When I tried
> to suggest to my friend other options I just kept drawing a blank. Will
> forward all this info. Love these NG's.
>
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