HELP System Volume Information and others



Eduardo
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
It is a long story, but I will try to give as much details as possible.

I am running XP SP1, for some unkown reason I cann’t run chkdsk on boot, in
order to work around I use ERD commander to run chkdsk /f /r. It reported not
problem at all, but if I run chkdsk (without the /f parameter), I get the
following log from chkdsk:

The type of the file system is NTFS.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is recovering lost files.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.
Correcting errors in the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute.
Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
Windows found problems with the file system.
Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.

39062047 KB total disk space.
26738936 KB in 104308 files.
31632 KB in 4020 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
196431 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
12095048 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
9765511 total allocation units on disk.
3023762 allocation units available on disk.

If I try to run a boot defragmentation with Diskeeper, I receive a message
indicating that Diskeeper couldn’t get exclusive access to the volume,
probably because is not mounted or is not NTFS. If I check if the drive is
“dirty” with CHKNTFS, it shows it is clean.

With all these issues, I restarted my pc, and I started to notice I was
“losing” free disk space very rapidly. I ran a scan for virus or spyware and
nothing was found, I made some directory comparisons I found out System
Volume Information Directory was very large (9.7 GB), I cleared the previous
Sytem Restore Points wih disk clean up (the directory was reduce from 9 to 2
GB), and I reduce the size of the Restore Points from 3 to 2 GB, nevertheless
every time I restart my pc the Sistem Volume Information Directory gets
aproximately 400 MB larger reducing very quickly my disk space.

Any idea on why I have these problems.

Thanks,

Eduardo

Wesley Vogel
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Don't even bother running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

[[Chkdsk might not accurately report information in read-only mode.]]

Chkdsk
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

[[If you run chkdsk without the /f command-line option on an active
partition, it might report spurious errors because it cannot lock the
drive.]]

[[Using chkdsk with open files
If you specify the /f command-line option, chkdsk sends an error message if
there are open files on the disk. If you do not specify the /f command-line
option and open files exist, chkdsk might report lost allocation units on
the disk. This could happen if open files have not yet been recorded in the
file allocation table. If chkdsk reports the loss of a large number of
allocation units, consider repairing the disk.]]

Chkdsk
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/chkdsk.mspx

[[In read-only mode, CHKDSK quits before it completes all three phases if it
encounters errors in earlier phases, and CHKDSK is prone to falsely
reporting errors. For example, CHKDSK may report disk corruption if NTFS
happens to modify areas of a disk while CHKDSK is examining the disk. For
correct verification, a volume must be static, and the only way to guarantee
a static state is to lock the volume. CHKDSK locks the volume only if you
specify the /F switch (or the /R switch, which implies /F). You may need to
run CHKDSK more than once to get CHKDSK to complete all its passes
in read-only mode. ]]

An Explanation of the New C and I Switches That Are Available to Use with
Chkdsk.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314835

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:E189A6D7-B24A-4694-A513-6D31DE9140D2@microsoft.com,
Eduardo <Eduardo@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> It is a long story, but I will try to give as much details as possible.
>
> I am running XP SP1, for some unkown reason I cann’t run chkdsk on
> boot, in order to work around I use ERD commander to run chkdsk /f /r. It
> reported not problem at all, but if I run chkdsk (without the /f
> parameter), I get the following log from chkdsk:
>
> The type of the file system is NTFS.
>
> WARNING! F parameter not specified.
> Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.
>
> CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
> File verification completed.
> CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
> Index verification completed.
> CHKDSK is recovering lost files.
> CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
> Security descriptor verification completed.
> Correcting errors in the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute.
> Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
> Windows found problems with the file system.
> Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.
>
> 39062047 KB total disk space.
> 26738936 KB in 104308 files.
> 31632 KB in 4020 indexes.
> 0 KB in bad sectors.
> 196431 KB in use by the system.
> 65536 KB occupied by the log file.
> 12095048 KB available on disk.
>
> 4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
> 9765511 total allocation units on disk.
> 3023762 allocation units available on disk.
>
> If I try to run a boot defragmentation with Diskeeper, I receive a message
> indicating that Diskeeper couldn’t get exclusive access to the volume,
> probably because is not mounted or is not NTFS. If I check if the drive is
> “dirty” with CHKNTFS, it shows it is clean.
>
> With all these issues, I restarted my pc, and I started to notice I was
> “losing” free disk space very rapidly. I ran a scan for virus or
> spyware and nothing was found, I made some directory comparisons I found
> out System
> Volume Information Directory was very large (9.7 GB), I cleared the
> previous Sytem Restore Points wih disk clean up (the directory was reduce
> from 9 to 2 GB), and I reduce the size of the Restore Points from 3 to 2
> GB, nevertheless every time I restart my pc the Sistem Volume Information
> Directory gets aproximately 400 MB larger reducing very quickly my disk
> space.
>
> Any idea on why I have these problems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eduardo

Andrew E.
07-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Why run all the 3rd party utilities,xp does all of this......Probably where
99%
of youre problem lies,you can run CHKDSK /F/R At the same time no matter
what software you use,its either:CHKDSK C: /F or CHKDSK C: /R
The results you posted are normal,however you wont see the same results
again.
If you want to chk the disk on every start-up,go to run,type:cmd In cmd
type:
CHKDSK C: /F/k

"Eduardo" wrote:

> It is a long story, but I will try to give as much details as possible.
>
> I am running XP SP1, for some unkown reason I cann’t run chkdsk on boot, in
> order to work around I use ERD commander to run chkdsk /f /r. It reported not
> problem at all, but if I run chkdsk (without the /f parameter), I get the
> following log from chkdsk:
>
> The type of the file system is NTFS.
>
> WARNING! F parameter not specified.
> Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.
>
> CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
> File verification completed.
> CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
> Index verification completed.
> CHKDSK is recovering lost files.
> CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
> Security descriptor verification completed.
> Correcting errors in the master file table's (MFT) BITMAP attribute.
> Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
> Windows found problems with the file system.
> Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.
>
> 39062047 KB total disk space.
> 26738936 KB in 104308 files.
> 31632 KB in 4020 indexes.
> 0 KB in bad sectors.
> 196431 KB in use by the system.
> 65536 KB occupied by the log file.
> 12095048 KB available on disk.
>
> 4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
> 9765511 total allocation units on disk.
> 3023762 allocation units available on disk.
>
> If I try to run a boot defragmentation with Diskeeper, I receive a message
> indicating that Diskeeper couldn’t get exclusive access to the volume,
> probably because is not mounted or is not NTFS. If I check if the drive is
> “dirty” with CHKNTFS, it shows it is clean.
>
> With all these issues, I restarted my pc, and I started to notice I was
> “losing” free disk space very rapidly. I ran a scan for virus or spyware and
> nothing was found, I made some directory comparisons I found out System
> Volume Information Directory was very large (9.7 GB), I cleared the previous
> Sytem Restore Points wih disk clean up (the directory was reduce from 9 to 2
> GB), and I reduce the size of the Restore Points from 3 to 2 GB, nevertheless
> every time I restart my pc the Sistem Volume Information Directory gets
> aproximately 400 MB larger reducing very quickly my disk space.
>
> Any idea on why I have these problems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eduardo
>

Eduardo
07-09-2005, 11:51 PM
Hi Wes,

Thank your for your answer.

Do you have any comments on my System Volume Information problem.

Once again thank you,

Eduardo

Wesley Vogel
07-09-2005, 11:51 PM
Eduardo,

I do not use Sytem Restore, but...

Check the setting

Start | Run | Type: sysdm.cpl | Click OK |
System Restore tab | Settings button

[[The default setting is 12% of total drive size, but this can be increased
or decreased depending on the number of restore points you want to have
available.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:6B1D555E-B8D9-4971-BAEB-AE3ADC5B6E04@microsoft.com,
Eduardo <Eduardo@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> Hi Wes,
>
> Thank your for your answer.
>
> Do you have any comments on my System Volume Information problem.
>
> Once again thank you,
>
> Eduardo


HELP System Volume Information and others