fan operation



Amber
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer NEVER
shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut off
randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done the whole
virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any suggestions?

Andrew E.
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Youre looking in the wrong area(s),the fan is controlled by the power
supply via the controller on the board.Try entering the BIOS,power options,
set to default,and/or go to exit page,select,"load set up defaults" or
"optimize
defaults" then go back into the BIOS,adjust for any addons you may have,then
save and exit BIOS.If the fan,never turns off,even with computer off,you
probably have a faulty board,also causeing the shutdown on line,or the other
possibility (the 1st to chk),is the power supply itself.Replace it,or
you'll need to
have a service center test it,you cant chk it yourself.

"Amber" wrote:

> Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer NEVER
> shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut off
> randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done the whole
> virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any suggestions?

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Amber wrote:

> Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer
> NEVER shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just
> shut off randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive
> done the whole virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be
> helping. Any suggestions?

Sounds like your computer is overheating. Open the computer and run it
open, cleaning out all dust bunnies and observing all fans (overheating
will cause system freezing). Obviously you can't do this with a laptop,
but you can hear if the fan is running and feel if the laptop is
getting too hot. Replace any fans that aren't working. Look for
components that may be failing and getting too hot - maybe your NIC is
going, maybe the fan on your video card is giving out, etc.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 12:48 AM
"Amber" <Amber@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:316599B6-9884-4E12-A746-F3C395868E46@microsoft.com...
> Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer NEVER
> shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut off
> randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done the
> whole
> virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any
> suggestions?


1. What kind of computer are you using. If it is a desktop/tower computer
the fans are likely supposed to run "all the time".

2. If the computer is just shutting down, as if you had pulled the power
plug, I would suspect an over heating condition or a power supply problem.

You can install a utility program to find out what temperature your CPU is
running at. I would suggest EVEREST Home Edition (free) from
http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en

If your CPU temp is above 50-60 degree C you may have problems!


--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

Lil' Dave
07-10-2005, 12:48 AM
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23s6o4H3YFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "Amber" <Amber@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:316599B6-9884-4E12-A746-F3C395868E46@microsoft.com...
> > Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer
NEVER
> > shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut
off
> > randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done the
> > whole
> > virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any
> > suggestions?
>
>
> 1. What kind of computer are you using. If it is a desktop/tower computer
> the fans are likely supposed to run "all the time".
>
> 2. If the computer is just shutting down, as if you had pulled the power
> plug, I would suspect an over heating condition or a power supply problem.
>
> You can install a utility program to find out what temperature your CPU is
> running at. I would suggest EVEREST Home Edition (free) from
> http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en
>
> If your CPU temp is above 50-60 degree C you may have problems!
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>

CPU "normal" temp can vary due to the workload, and the manufacturer of the
control processer, and the configuration of the PC case interior, and if
any, additional fans aiding or degrading the air flow in the cpu area, and
PC case exterior ambient air temperature. The temp range you quoted is
normal for an idle Intel Pentium series with adequate ventilation with a
comfortable ambient air temperature.

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 12:48 AM
That is exactly why I quoted that temp. It is my observation, during many
service calls, that the majority of computer users "do not" stress their
system. Those who do will realize that they have a problem earlier than most
others.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
news:u0HuAk4YFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23s6o4H3YFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Amber" <Amber@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:316599B6-9884-4E12-A746-F3C395868E46@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer
> NEVER
>> > shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut
> off
>> > randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done the
>> > whole
>> > virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any
>> > suggestions?
>>
>>
>> 1. What kind of computer are you using. If it is a desktop/tower computer
>> the fans are likely supposed to run "all the time".
>>
>> 2. If the computer is just shutting down, as if you had pulled the power
>> plug, I would suspect an over heating condition or a power supply
>> problem.
>>
>> You can install a utility program to find out what temperature your CPU
>> is
>> running at. I would suggest EVEREST Home Edition (free) from
>> http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en
>>
>> If your CPU temp is above 50-60 degree C you may have problems!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>>
>> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>>
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>
> CPU "normal" temp can vary due to the workload, and the manufacturer of
> the
> control processer, and the configuration of the PC case interior, and if
> any, additional fans aiding or degrading the air flow in the cpu area, and
> PC case exterior ambient air temperature. The temp range you quoted is
> normal for an idle Intel Pentium series with adequate ventilation with a
> comfortable ambient air temperature.
>
>

frodo@theshire.org
07-10-2005, 12:48 AM
On most PCs, the fan WILL NOT ever stop running, so you're ok there. If a
fan is stopping you've got a problem.

Some motherboard makers do provide a utility that you can install that
allows the monitoring and control of temps and the various fans, but it's
something you need to get and install, it's not "standard". And they
never turn off the fan(s), they just slow 'em down. Check you motherboard
maker's site. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE UTIL THAT MATCHES YOUR MOTHERBOARD
MODEL EXACTLY.

Some AMD based systems have a feature called "Cool and Quiet", but it too
is an extra utility/driver that you need to install (and it uses BIOS
support, so your BIOS needs to have Cool and Quiet capabilities to match
it; somewhere in the bios settings you'll see the term "Cool and Quiet",
and it usually defaults to "Auto". If you see that you can usually
install the XP driver software safely (get it from the AMD site).

Lil' Dave
07-10-2005, 12:49 AM
This is irritating. Not you or this thread. As you probably noted am using
OE's newsreader. Normally, when I make a reply, the thread is marked for
future reference automatically. In the last few days, its been on again,
off again. Guess its time to pat it on the back and purge all the headers
and text.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%231$DC54YFHA.1384@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> That is exactly why I quoted that temp. It is my observation, during many
> service calls, that the majority of computer users "do not" stress their
> system. Those who do will realize that they have a problem earlier than
most
> others.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
> news:u0HuAk4YFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23s6o4H3YFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "Amber" <Amber@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:316599B6-9884-4E12-A746-F3C395868E46@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer
> > NEVER
> >> > shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut
> > off
> >> > randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done
the
> >> > whole
> >> > virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any
> >> > suggestions?
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. What kind of computer are you using. If it is a desktop/tower
computer
> >> the fans are likely supposed to run "all the time".
> >>
> >> 2. If the computer is just shutting down, as if you had pulled the
power
> >> plug, I would suspect an over heating condition or a power supply
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> You can install a utility program to find out what temperature your CPU
> >> is
> >> running at. I would suggest EVEREST Home Edition (free) from
> >> http://www.lavalys.com/products/overview.php?pid=1&lang=en
> >>
> >> If your CPU temp is above 50-60 degree C you may have problems!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >>
> >> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
> >>
> >> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > CPU "normal" temp can vary due to the workload, and the manufacturer of
> > the
> > control processer, and the configuration of the PC case interior, and if
> > any, additional fans aiding or degrading the air flow in the cpu area,
and
> > PC case exterior ambient air temperature. The temp range you quoted is
> > normal for an idle Intel Pentium series with adequate ventilation with a
> > comfortable ambient air temperature.
> >
> >
>
>

frodo@theshire.org
07-10-2005, 12:50 AM
Lil' Dave <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote:
> This is irritating. Not you or this thread. As you probably noted am using
> OE's newsreader. Normally, when I make a reply, the thread is marked for
> future reference automatically. In the last few days, its been on again,

It's the server, not you. most servers these days only keep the very
latest posts, so threads get fractured. It's a sign of the times, news is
most likely going to disappear shortly, as maintaining a good news server
has become a full time job, and most isp's just don't want to deal w/ it.

My server has everything from the past 18 months, and that's a problem
too! This group for instance has over 100,000 posts in it, and if I
choose to read all the headers (I don't) it'd take almost an hour just to
enter it! And this is a realatively small group...

07-10-2005, 12:55 AM
your computer is likly to be dirty and over heating. take a can of
compressed air and with the computer off, spray out the dust. do not shak or
turn the can upside down as it will cause liquid to come out and it could
harm some internal parts.

peace :-)


"Amber" <Amber@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:316599B6-9884-4E12-A746-F3C395868E46@microsoft.com...
> Hi..just wondering if anyone can help me out. My fan on the computer NEVER
> shuts off & it is quite annoying. My computer also seems to just shut off
> randomly when im in the middle of doing something online. Ive done the
> whole
> virus scan & aol check up, but nothing seems to be helping. Any
> suggestions?


fan operation