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Robert Meek
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
I'd been having problems shutting down WinXP Pro SP 2 and all security
updates for awhile when I also noticed Update would freeze as
well...shutdown would freeze on the "Windows is Shutting down" message.
I asked here and followed all the different reccomendations but nothing
helped so finally I reformatted and re-installed everything now it's
happening again! I can't restore because I can't shutdown properly, I
downloaded all the shutdown patches, but nothing seems to work and I know
that by constant manual shutdown I'm going to screw the system up even
worse! What should I do?

R. McCarty
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Without knowing what has been recommended in the past, here
are a couple of suggestions. First you can modify that Registry so
that tasks that do not gracefully close can be terminated by XP.
The key name is AutoEndTasks which will need a value of 1.
Associated with that is a timeout value, WaitToKillAppTimeout.
Also, Microsoft has an add-on process called UserProfile Hive
Cleanup that can assist with shut-down issues.
However, you probably have an application or hardware driver
that is at the root of this issue. Have you updated the Chipset
driver package for your PC ? You may also have some issues
with BIOS compliancy with ACPI.

The Registry location for those Keys/Values is found at:
HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Desktop

"Robert Meek" <rmeek1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OosDwVrYFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I'd been having problems shutting down WinXP Pro SP 2 and all security
> updates for awhile when I also noticed Update would freeze as
> well...shutdown would freeze on the "Windows is Shutting down" message.
> I asked here and followed all the different reccomendations but nothing
> helped so finally I reformatted and re-installed everything now it's
> happening again! I can't restore because I can't shutdown properly, I
> downloaded all the shutdown patches, but nothing seems to work and I know
> that by constant manual shutdown I'm going to screw the system up even
> worse! What should I do?

Rock
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Robert Meek wrote:

> I'd been having problems shutting down WinXP Pro SP 2 and all security
> updates for awhile when I also noticed Update would freeze as
> well...shutdown would freeze on the "Windows is Shutting down" message.
> I asked here and followed all the different reccomendations but
> nothing helped so finally I reformatted and re-installed everything now
> it's happening again! I can't restore because I can't shutdown
> properly, I downloaded all the shutdown patches, but nothing seems to
> work and I know that by constant manual shutdown I'm going to screw the
> system up even worse! What should I do?

How to Use Driver Verifier to Troubleshoot Windows Drivers
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

Robert Meek
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Well I tried EVERYTHING ever suggested here including the Hive utility
and setting the Registry values you mentioned. Funny thing is that along
with the shutdown problem I also cannot access the Windows updates...just
freezes on the ie screen until I use taskmanager, and I cannot turn
auto-updates off/on as trying also causes a freeze! I can't rollback with
restore because it doiesn't close properly, yet I think it's a driver
because it works fine in Safe Mode! I applied the latest NVidia drivers for
my graphics card, but the problem seems to have started after I installed
Visual Studio and all the updates that go with it. But I don't think if
it's not running that it should interfere with anything??
"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:DkEle.8763$uR4.8237@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Without knowing what has been recommended in the past, here
> are a couple of suggestions. First you can modify that Registry so
> that tasks that do not gracefully close can be terminated by XP.
> The key name is AutoEndTasks which will need a value of 1.
> Associated with that is a timeout value, WaitToKillAppTimeout.
> Also, Microsoft has an add-on process called UserProfile Hive
> Cleanup that can assist with shut-down issues.
> However, you probably have an application or hardware driver
> that is at the root of this issue. Have you updated the Chipset
> driver package for your PC ? You may also have some issues
> with BIOS compliancy with ACPI.
>
> The Registry location for those Keys/Values is found at:
> HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Desktop
>
> "Robert Meek" <rmeek1@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:OosDwVrYFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> I'd been having problems shutting down WinXP Pro SP 2 and all security
>> updates for awhile when I also noticed Update would freeze as
>> well...shutdown would freeze on the "Windows is Shutting down" message.
>> I asked here and followed all the different reccomendations but
>> nothing helped so finally I reformatted and re-installed everything now
>> it's happening again! I can't restore because I can't shutdown properly,
>> I downloaded all the shutdown patches, but nothing seems to work and I
>> know that by constant manual shutdown I'm going to screw the system up
>> even worse! What should I do?
>
>

R. McCarty
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Very unusual problem. Interactions are almost never easy to spot.
The combinations that cause system instability are very hard to run
down. Sometimes even seemingly unrelated items can interact. I'll
mull over the symptoms and if I can think up another suggestion I
will post back.

"Robert Meek" <rmeek1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:eOuV3QtYFHA.2884@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Well I tried EVERYTHING ever suggested here including the Hive utility
> and setting the Registry values you mentioned. Funny thing is that along
> with the shutdown problem I also cannot access the Windows updates...just
> freezes on the ie screen until I use taskmanager, and I cannot turn
> auto-updates off/on as trying also causes a freeze! I can't rollback with
> restore because it doiesn't close properly, yet I think it's a driver
> because it works fine in Safe Mode! I applied the latest NVidia drivers
> for my graphics card, but the problem seems to have started after I
> installed Visual Studio and all the updates that go with it. But I don't
> think if it's not running that it should interfere with anything??
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:DkEle.8763$uR4.8237@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Without knowing what has been recommended in the past, here
>> are a couple of suggestions. First you can modify that Registry so
>> that tasks that do not gracefully close can be terminated by XP.
>> The key name is AutoEndTasks which will need a value of 1.
>> Associated with that is a timeout value, WaitToKillAppTimeout.
>> Also, Microsoft has an add-on process called UserProfile Hive
>> Cleanup that can assist with shut-down issues.
>> However, you probably have an application or hardware driver
>> that is at the root of this issue. Have you updated the Chipset
>> driver package for your PC ? You may also have some issues
>> with BIOS compliancy with ACPI.
>>
>> The Registry location for those Keys/Values is found at:
>> HKey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Desktop
>>
>> "Robert Meek" <rmeek1@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:OosDwVrYFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> I'd been having problems shutting down WinXP Pro SP 2 and all security
>>> updates for awhile when I also noticed Update would freeze as
>>> well...shutdown would freeze on the "Windows is Shutting down" message.
>>> I asked here and followed all the different reccomendations but
>>> nothing helped so finally I reformatted and re-installed everything now
>>> it's happening again! I can't restore because I can't shutdown
>>> properly, I downloaded all the shutdown patches, but nothing seems to
>>> work and I know that by constant manual shutdown I'm going to screw the
>>> system up even worse! What should I do?
>>
>>
>

Darrell
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Hi, can u tell me what the below means and how to correct it. This is the
error message I got after running verifier.exe

IO System verification error in imapi.sys (WDM Driver error 211)
[imapi.sys+81ae at F87071ae]

What prompted me to run Verifier.exe is that when I would restart my system
I would sometimes get a blue stop screen error message with the following
code:

0x0000007e(0xc0000005,0x00000000,0xf898dc74,0xf898d970)

Any ideas?

"Rock" wrote:

> Robert Meek wrote:
>
> > I'd been having problems shutting down WinXP Pro SP 2 and all security
> > updates for awhile when I also noticed Update would freeze as
> > well...shutdown would freeze on the "Windows is Shutting down" message.
> > I asked here and followed all the different reccomendations but
> > nothing helped so finally I reformatted and re-installed everything now
> > it's happening again! I can't restore because I can't shutdown
> > properly, I downloaded all the shutdown patches, but nothing seems to
> > work and I know that by constant manual shutdown I'm going to screw the
> > system up even worse! What should I do?
>
> How to Use Driver Verifier to Troubleshoot Windows Drivers
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617
>
> --
> Rock
> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
>


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