Bug in XP Security Center?



Kinell
07-10-2005, 12:46 AM
After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK. Sometime
later - several minutes - it reports that there is no Firewall. The
Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the properties of the
Internet connection reports the same.

Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows Firewall
option and this satisfied the Security Centre.

The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent updates. AVG
Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall software. ADSL
broadband connection.

Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:46 AM
Kinell wrote:
> After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK. Sometime
> later - several minutes - it reports that there is no Firewall. The
> Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the properties of the
> Internet connection reports the same.
>
> Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows Firewall
> option and this satisfied the Security Centre.
>
> The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent updates. AVG
> Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall software. ADSL
> broadband connection.
>
> Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?

Turn off the Security Center reporting things. And I'd install a
firewall that has the ability to block nasties both ways. Trusting MS
with your computer security is like trusting the Bush administration to
with anything.

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Kinell
07-10-2005, 12:46 AM
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
news:OgKxWllYFHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:

> Kinell wrote:
>> After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK.
>> Sometime later - several minutes - it reports that there is no
>> Firewall. The Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the
>> properties of the Internet connection reports the same.
>>
>> Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows
>> Firewall option and this satisfied the Security Centre.
>>
>> The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent
>> updates. AVG Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall
>> software. ADSL broadband connection.
>>
>> Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?
>
> Turn off the Security Center reporting things. And I'd install
> a firewall that has the ability to block nasties both ways.
> Trusting MS with your computer security is like trusting the
> Bush administration to with anything.
>

I'll take that as a 'No' then; you don't have any clues.

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Kinell wrote:
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> news:OgKxWllYFHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
>
>> Kinell wrote:
>>> After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK.
>>> Sometime later - several minutes - it reports that there is no
>>> Firewall. The Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the
>>> properties of the Internet connection reports the same.
>>>
>>> Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows
>>> Firewall option and this satisfied the Security Centre.
>>>
>>> The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent
>>> updates. AVG Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall
>>> software. ADSL broadband connection.
>>>
>>> Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?
>>
>> Turn off the Security Center reporting things. And I'd install
>> a firewall that has the ability to block nasties both ways.
>> Trusting MS with your computer security is like trusting the
>> Bush administration to with anything.
>>
>
> I'll take that as a 'No' then; you don't have any clues.

LOL! Yeah, MS has a horrible record when it comes to security, so it's
no wonder that their "Security Center" gives inconsistent and outright
wrong reports. Only a fool would rely on MS for computer security in
the first place, especially considering their horrendous security track
record.

To stop its anomalous behavior, disable it.

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Kinell
07-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Kinell <w@invalid.jp> wrote in
news:Xns9662E9C24C7B6kxxx@194.168.222.124:

> After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK.
> Sometime later - several minutes - it reports that there is no
> Firewall. The Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the
> properties of the Internet connection reports the same.
>
> Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows
> Firewall option and this satisfied the Security Centre.
>
> The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent
> updates. AVG Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall
> software. ADSL broadband connection.
>
> Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?

The trolling sub-thread is closed as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone have any relevant helpful suggestions?

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:48 AM
Kinell wrote:
> Kinell <w@invalid.jp> wrote in
> news:Xns9662E9C24C7B6kxxx@194.168.222.124:
>
>> After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK.
>> Sometime later - several minutes - it reports that there is no
>> Firewall. The Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the
>> properties of the Internet connection reports the same.
>>
>> Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows
>> Firewall option and this satisfied the Security Centre.
>>
>> The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent
>> updates. AVG Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall
>> software. ADSL broadband connection.
>>
>> Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?
>
> The trolling sub-thread is closed as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Anyone have any relevant helpful suggestions?

LOL! I'm not trolling. I have the security center turned off myself,
don't used the Windows firewall turned on. I practice what I preach.

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Rock
07-10-2005, 12:48 AM
Kinell wrote:

> Kinell <w@invalid.jp> wrote in
> news:Xns9662E9C24C7B6kxxx@194.168.222.124:
>
>
>>After booting, the Security Center reports everything OK.
>>Sometime later - several minutes - it reports that there is no
>>Firewall. The Windows Firewall reports that it is on and the
>>properties of the Internet connection reports the same.
>>
>>Experimenting, I ticked the "Don't Allow Exceptions" Windows
>>Firewall option and this satisfied the Security Centre.
>>
>>The system is running XP Home Edition + SP2 + subsequent
>>updates. AVG Free Edition AV software. No separate firewall
>>software. ADSL broadband connection.
>>
>>Any clues as to how to fix this anomalous behaviour?
>
>
> The trolling sub-thread is closed as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Anyone have any relevant helpful suggestions?

I can't help you with fixing the issue at hand, but the security center
is nothing more than a nag. No matter what it says you must still check
to make sure AV and firewall are running ok. So in that sense turning
it off (through services) or telling it not to monitor the firewall is
not hurtful.

As to using the windows firewall there are better options. It is not
that easy to configure and only protects against inbound threats.
Something already on the system, some malware you installed without
realizing it, can still "phone home". Better to use one of the good 3rd
party firewalls which monitor inbound and outbound. There are several
free ones that work well from Sygate, Zone Alarm and Kerio. Each also
has a pro version for a fee with more options. You should consider
using a different firewall.

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Rock
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Bug in XP Security Center?