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kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Check out the new Netscape 8.0.1.

If the html code isn't optimized for any browser but IE, Netscape can
render it as IE would. So far, what I see of Netscape, I like.

Here is a screen shot of it.

http://microscum.com/images/netscape.jpg

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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Read the EULA carefully. You are not allowed to remove an ad software that
comes with it.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Check out the new Netscape 8.0.1.
>
> If the html code isn't optimized for any browser but IE, Netscape can
> render it as IE would. So far, what I see of Netscape, I like.
>
> Here is a screen shot of it.
>
> http://microscum.com/images/netscape.jpg
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

GO
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Does it offer anything really useful over Firefox, which the new Netscape is
based? Not that I want to bash it but the last few versions left a sour
taste in my mouth. After v4, it became very unstable (on my machine at
least) and very bloated. I may give it a try one of the these days but for
now I am still very pleased with Firefox. I am also very pleased just to
see more competition against IE so I hope Netscape does well, and it quite
possibly just may well do it as the Netscape name still has a lot of "brand
power".



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Check out the new Netscape 8.0.1.
>
> If the html code isn't optimized for any browser but IE, Netscape can
> render it as IE would. So far, what I see of Netscape, I like.
>
> Here is a screen shot of it.
>
> http://microscum.com/images/netscape.jpg
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
> Read the EULA carefully. You are not allowed to remove an ad
> software that comes with it.

AIM? I've seen no adware with Netscape.

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kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
GO wrote:
> Does it offer anything really useful over Firefox, which the new
> Netscape is based? Not that I want to bash it but the last few
> versions left a sour taste in my mouth. After v4, it became very
> unstable (on my machine at least) and very bloated. I may give it a
> try one of the these days but for now I am still very pleased with
> Firefox. I am also very pleased just to see more competition against
> IE so I hope Netscape does well, and it quite possibly just may well
> do it as the Netscape name still has a lot of "brand power".

So far, what I've seen of it, Netscape has dropped the more bloated
Mozilla suite for Firefox as its base, plus you can switch to the IE
Rendering Engine. So far, so good.

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NotMe
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
I tried it, as far as I am concerned, ANY tabbed browser goes to the recycle
bin, do not pass GO do not collect $200...LOL

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:OzOxUXnXFHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Check out the new Netscape 8.0.1.
>
> If the html code isn't optimized for any browser but IE, Netscape can
> render it as IE would. So far, what I see of Netscape, I like.
>
> Here is a screen shot of it.
>
> http://microscum.com/images/netscape.jpg
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
NotMe wrote:
> I tried it, as far as I am concerned, ANY tabbed browser goes to the
> recycle bin, do not pass GO do not collect $200...LOL
>

You do know that the next version of IE is supposed to have tabs, don't
you?

>> Check out the new Netscape 8.0.1.
>>
>> If the html code isn't optimized for any browser but IE, Netscape can
>> render it as IE would. So far, what I see of Netscape, I like.
>>
>> Here is a screen shot of it.
>>
>> http://microscum.com/images/netscape.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"



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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Read RESTRICTIONS, 3

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
>> Read the EULA carefully. You are not allowed to remove an ad
>> software that comes with it.
>
> AIM? I've seen no adware with Netscape.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
IE7 will almost certainly have tabs. Start looking.

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"NotMe" <Dewmealso@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I tried it, as far as I am concerned, ANY tabbed browser goes to the
>recycle bin, do not pass GO do not collect $200...LOL
>
> --
> For evil to prosper requires only that good men remain silent!
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
> news:OzOxUXnXFHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Check out the new Netscape 8.0.1.
>>
>> If the html code isn't optimized for any browser but IE, Netscape can
>> render it as IE would. So far, what I see of Netscape, I like.
>>
>> Here is a screen shot of it.
>>
>> http://microscum.com/images/netscape.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>>
>
>

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
> Read RESTRICTIONS, 3

The below quoted text is what you are talking about? Why didn't you
just say yes when I asked "AIM?"

I don't use it, was never prompted to use it sign on it, unlike the
strong arm of Windows Messenger! I have since deleted ALL references to
it from the Netscape install folder, and I never had a AIM folder.

Guess what, the AOL EULA police haven't knocked on my door, and I doubt
there is a way to access AIM or its adds at all from my computer.



3. RESTRICTIONS. You may not: (i) modify or create any derivative
works of the Browser or documentation, including customization,
translation or localization (aside from any rights you may have to
modify those portions of the source code released under a separate
source code license); (ii) decompile, disassemble, reverse engineer, or
otherwise attempt to derive the source code of the Browser, or in any
way ascertain, decipher, or obtain the communications protocols for
accessing the AIM Service, or the underlying ideas or algorithms of the
Browser; (iii) use the Browser to reproduce, display, perform, or
distribute audio and/or video content in any manner that violates any
U.S. or foreign laws or regulations or any third party's rights,
including copyright, privacy or publicity rights, or other intellectual
property right; (iv) use the Browser to develop software or services
that access the address space of the Browser or that intercept the
proxy; (v) attempt to gain unauthorized access to the AIM Service or any
other service, account, computer systems or networks associated with the
Browser; (vi) redistribute, encumber, sell, rent, lease, sublicense, or
otherwise transfer rights to the Browser; (vii) remove or alter any
trademark, logo, copyright or other proprietary notices, legends,
symbols or labels in the Browser; (viii) block, disable, or otherwise
effect any advertising, advertisement banner window, tabs, links to
other sites and services, or other features that constitute an integral
part of the Browser; (ix) incorporate, integrate or otherwise include
the Browser or any portion thereof (including the communications
protocols) into any software, program or product that communicates,
accesses, or otherwise connects with the AIM service or any other
instant messaging, Internet, or online service; (x) use any AOL web or
communications services associated with the Browser in any manner that
could damage, disable, overburden, or impair such services or interfere
with any other party's use and enjoyment of them; (xi) provide false
information when registering for a Screen Name, select or use a Screen
Name with the intention of impersonating another person or entity or
that violates anyone's intellectual property rights, use a Screen Name
that AOL considers in its sole discretion as being inappropriate, or use
a Screen Name of anyone else without authorization; (xii) use the
Browser in any way that violates this Agreement or any law; or (xiii)
authorize or assist any third party to do any of the things described in
this paragraph.


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kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
kurttrail wrote:
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
>> Read RESTRICTIONS, 3
>

From http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/help/im_help.jsp:
Using AOL Instant Messenger in the Netscape Browser
AOL Instant Messenger for Netscape Browser is a version of AOL Instant
Messenger (AIM) that is completely integrated into Netscape Browser and
completely compatible with all other AIM versions.

To get to AIM, open My Sidebar and clicking the Buddy List tab. If the
Buddy List tab is not on My Sidebar, you can add it by clicking Tabs at
the top of My Sidebar and then clicking Buddy List from the drop-down
list.


I have no mention of AIM or its buddy list in my Sidebar or any
drop-down list. So turn me into AOL! That was the easy part, as the
Customize My Sidebar box let me delete it!

You are just trying to FUD the readers of this group with your nonsense!

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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
I saw this:
3. RESTRICTIONS. You may not .(viii) block, disable, or otherwise
effect any advertising, advertisement banner window, tabs, links to
other sites and services, or other features that constitute an integral
part of the Browser;.; or (xiii) authorize or assist any third party to
do any of the things described in this paragraph.

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
>> Read RESTRICTIONS, 3
>
> The below quoted text is what you are talking about? Why didn't you just
> say yes when I asked "AIM?"
>
> I don't use it, was never prompted to use it sign on it, unlike the strong
> arm of Windows Messenger! I have since deleted ALL references to it from
> the Netscape install folder, and I never had a AIM folder.
>
> Guess what, the AOL EULA police haven't knocked on my door, and I doubt
> there is a way to access AIM or its adds at all from my computer.
>
>
>
> 3. RESTRICTIONS. You may not: (i) modify or create any derivative works
> of the Browser or documentation, including customization, translation or
> localization (aside from any rights you may have to modify those portions
> of the source code released under a separate source code license); (ii)
> decompile, disassemble, reverse engineer, or otherwise attempt to derive
> the source code of the Browser, or in any way ascertain, decipher, or
> obtain the communications protocols for accessing the AIM Service, or the
> underlying ideas or algorithms of the Browser; (iii) use the Browser to
> reproduce, display, perform, or distribute audio and/or video content in
> any manner that violates any U.S. or foreign laws or regulations or any
> third party's rights, including copyright, privacy or publicity rights, or
> other intellectual property right; (iv) use the Browser to develop
> software or services that access the address space of the Browser or that
> intercept the proxy; (v) attempt to gain unauthorized access to the AIM
> Service or any other service, account, computer systems or networks
> associated with the Browser; (vi) redistribute, encumber, sell, rent,
> lease, sublicense, or otherwise transfer rights to the Browser; (vii)
> remove or alter any trademark, logo, copyright or other proprietary
> notices, legends, symbols or labels in the Browser; (viii) block, disable,
> or otherwise effect any advertising, advertisement banner window, tabs,
> links to other sites and services, or other features that constitute an
> integral part of the Browser; (ix) incorporate, integrate or otherwise
> include the Browser or any portion thereof (including the communications
> protocols) into any software, program or product that communicates,
> accesses, or otherwise connects with the AIM service or any other instant
> messaging, Internet, or online service; (x) use any AOL web or
> communications services associated with the Browser in any manner that
> could damage, disable, overburden, or impair such services or interfere
> with any other party's use and enjoyment of them; (xi) provide false
> information when registering for a Screen Name, select or use a Screen
> Name with the intention of impersonating another person or entity or that
> violates anyone's intellectual property rights, use a Screen Name that AOL
> considers in its sole discretion as being inappropriate, or use a Screen
> Name of anyone else without authorization; (xii) use the Browser in any
> way that violates this Agreement or any law; or (xiii) authorize or assist
> any third party to do any of the things described in this paragraph.
>
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
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> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE wrote:
> I saw this:
> 3. RESTRICTIONS. You may not .(viii) block, disable, or otherwise
> effect any advertising, advertisement banner window, tabs, links to
> other sites and services, or other features that constitute an
> integral part of the Browser;.; or (xiii) authorize or assist any
> third party to do any of the things described in this paragraph.

Too bad. I see no adds as part of the browser, and I don't use AIM, so
it is not a big deal.

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Paul Knudsen
07-10-2005, 12:50 AM
On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:09:30 -0500, "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE"
<franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote:

>I saw this:
> 3. RESTRICTIONS. You may not .(viii) block, disable, or otherwise
>effect any advertising, advertisement banner window, tabs, links to
>other sites and services, or other features that constitute an integral
>part of the Browser;.; or (xiii) authorize or assist any third party to
>do any of the things described in this paragraph.

I seriously doubt they could make that stand up in court. You can
pretty much do whatever you want on your own computer. And how would
they even know?
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