Extracting an icon which may not be an icon



Dave Neve
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Hi

I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to extract
the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone from
deleting it.

When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be an
icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with the
Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.

I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.

I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.

How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?

Thanks

Dave Neve

Keith Miller
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the same icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut & click 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is the source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change icon dialog for the folder in question.

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to extract
> the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone from
> deleting it.
>
> When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be an
> icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with the
> Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
>
> I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
>
> I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
>
> How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave Neve
>
>

Dave Neve
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Hi

Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
%SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.

After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an icon
as I can't find it with an icon extractor

Any other ideas please?

Thanks




"Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the same
icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut & click
'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is the
source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change icon
dialog for the folder in question.

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to extract
> the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone from
> deleting it.
>
> When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be an
> icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with the
> Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
>
> I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
>
> I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
>
> How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave Neve
>
>

Keith Miller
07-10-2005, 12:38 AM
I think if it displays as an icon, it's an icon.

There are a few in certmgr.dll, but none with an envelope.

What type of certificate is this?

What is the file type of the certificate?

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message news:%23cNQ%23bcXFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
> %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.
>
> After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an icon
> as I can't find it with an icon extractor
>
> Any other ideas please?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the same
> icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut & click
> 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is the
> source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change icon
> dialog for the folder in question.
>
> Keith
>
> "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> >
> > I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to extract
> > the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone from
> > deleting it.
> >
> > When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be an
> > icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with the
> > Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
> >
> > I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
> >
> > I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
> >
> > How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dave Neve
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Neve
07-10-2005, 12:38 AM
Hi

It is a certificate that has nothing to do with my computer but was issued
by the French Tax Office and it allows me to make a tax declaration on line.

The icon is a certificate in an open envelope with a key in the bottom right
hand corner.

It installed itself on my C drive.

Finally, with Icon Extracteur version 2, I can see its folder but inside
there is no 'icon' that shows up in the extractor software or in Windows.

Still haven't solved this one.

Regards

Dave Neve


"Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
%23HIIYiiXFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
I think if it displays as an icon, it's an icon.

There are a few in certmgr.dll, but none with an envelope.

What type of certificate is this?

What is the file type of the certificate?

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
news:%23cNQ%23bcXFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
> %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.
>
> After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an icon
> as I can't find it with an icon extractor
>
> Any other ideas please?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the
> same
> icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut &
> click
> 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is the
> source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change
> icon
> dialog for the folder in question.
>
> Keith
>
> "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> >
> > I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to
> > extract
> > the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone from
> > deleting it.
> >
> > When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be
> > an
> > icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with the
> > Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
> >
> > I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
> >
> > I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
> >
> > How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dave Neve
> >
> >
>
>

Keith Miller
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Icons most often come from the executable used to open the file or the library which handles them, not the files themselves. So looking under Internet Explorer options -> Content tab -> Certificates -> Advanced, I found the file format is most likely .cer.

Looking in the registry, HKCR\.cer is defined as 'CERFile'. HKCR\CERFile\DefaultIcon comes from the cryptui.dll file, in your system32 directory. And there is an icon of a certificate in an open envelope with a key!!!

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message news:eqEuVdkXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> It is a certificate that has nothing to do with my computer but was issued
> by the French Tax Office and it allows me to make a tax declaration on line.
>
> The icon is a certificate in an open envelope with a key in the bottom right
> hand corner.
>
> It installed itself on my C drive.
>
> Finally, with Icon Extracteur version 2, I can see its folder but inside
> there is no 'icon' that shows up in the extractor software or in Windows.
>
> Still haven't solved this one.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Neve
>
>
> "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> %23HIIYiiXFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I think if it displays as an icon, it's an icon.
>
> There are a few in certmgr.dll, but none with an envelope.
>
> What type of certificate is this?
>
> What is the file type of the certificate?
>
> Keith
>
> "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> news:%23cNQ%23bcXFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> >
> > Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
> > %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.
> >
> > After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an icon
> > as I can't find it with an icon extractor
> >
> > Any other ideas please?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the
> > same
> > icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut &
> > click
> > 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is the
> > source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change
> > icon
> > dialog for the folder in question.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> > news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to
> > > extract
> > > the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone from
> > > deleting it.
> > >
> > > When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be
> > > an
> > > icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with the
> > > Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
> > >
> > > I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
> > >
> > > I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
> > >
> > > How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Dave Neve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Neve
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Hi

I couldn't find it under Internet either but the icon you sent me is the
one.

Thanks
"Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
O3mp$snXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Icons most often come from the executable used to open the file or the
library which handles them, not the files themselves. So looking under
Internet Explorer options -> Content tab -> Certificates -> Advanced, I
found the file format is most likely .cer.

Looking in the registry, HKCR\.cer is defined as 'CERFile'.
HKCR\CERFile\DefaultIcon comes from the cryptui.dll file, in your system32
directory. And there is an icon of a certificate in an open envelope with a
key!!!

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
news:eqEuVdkXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> It is a certificate that has nothing to do with my computer but was issued
> by the French Tax Office and it allows me to make a tax declaration on
> line.
>
> The icon is a certificate in an open envelope with a key in the bottom
> right
> hand corner.
>
> It installed itself on my C drive.
>
> Finally, with Icon Extracteur version 2, I can see its folder but inside
> there is no 'icon' that shows up in the extractor software or in Windows.
>
> Still haven't solved this one.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Neve
>
>
> "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> %23HIIYiiXFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I think if it displays as an icon, it's an icon.
>
> There are a few in certmgr.dll, but none with an envelope.
>
> What type of certificate is this?
>
> What is the file type of the certificate?
>
> Keith
>
> "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> news:%23cNQ%23bcXFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> >
> > Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
> > %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.
> >
> > After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an
> > icon
> > as I can't find it with an icon extractor
> >
> > Any other ideas please?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the
> > same
> > icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut &
> > click
> > 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is
> > the
> > source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change
> > icon
> > dialog for the folder in question.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> > news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to
> > > extract
> > > the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone
> > > from
> > > deleting it.
> > >
> > > When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be
> > > an
> > > icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with
> > > the
> > > Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
> > >
> > > I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
> > >
> > > I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
> > >
> > > How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Dave Neve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Keith Miller
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
c:\system32\cryptui.dll

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message news:egDAL9rXFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> I couldn't find it under Internet either but the icon you sent me is the
> one.
>
> Thanks
> "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> O3mp$snXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Icons most often come from the executable used to open the file or the
> library which handles them, not the files themselves. So looking under
> Internet Explorer options -> Content tab -> Certificates -> Advanced, I
> found the file format is most likely .cer.
>
> Looking in the registry, HKCR\.cer is defined as 'CERFile'.
> HKCR\CERFile\DefaultIcon comes from the cryptui.dll file, in your system32
> directory. And there is an icon of a certificate in an open envelope with a
> key!!!
>
> Keith
>
> "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> news:eqEuVdkXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> >
> > It is a certificate that has nothing to do with my computer but was issued
> > by the French Tax Office and it allows me to make a tax declaration on
> > line.
> >
> > The icon is a certificate in an open envelope with a key in the bottom
> > right
> > hand corner.
> >
> > It installed itself on my C drive.
> >
> > Finally, with Icon Extracteur version 2, I can see its folder but inside
> > there is no 'icon' that shows up in the extractor software or in Windows.
> >
> > Still haven't solved this one.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Neve
> >
> >
> > "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > %23HIIYiiXFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I think if it displays as an icon, it's an icon.
> >
> > There are a few in certmgr.dll, but none with an envelope.
> >
> > What type of certificate is this?
> >
> > What is the file type of the certificate?
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> > news:%23cNQ%23bcXFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
> > > %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.
> > >
> > > After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an
> > > icon
> > > as I can't find it with an icon extractor
> > >
> > > Any other ideas please?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > > OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the
> > > same
> > > icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut &
> > > click
> > > 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is
> > > the
> > > source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change
> > > icon
> > > dialog for the folder in question.
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> > > news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to
> > > > extract
> > > > the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone
> > > > from
> > > > deleting it.
> > > >
> > > > When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be
> > > > an
> > > > icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with
> > > > the
> > > > Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
> > > >
> > > > I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
> > > >
> > > > How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Dave Neve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Keith Miller
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Whoops, that should be:

c:\windows\system32\cryptui.dll

Keith

"Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message news:egDAL9rXFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> I couldn't find it under Internet either but the icon you sent me is the
> one.
>
> Thanks
> "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> O3mp$snXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Icons most often come from the executable used to open the file or the
> library which handles them, not the files themselves. So looking under
> Internet Explorer options -> Content tab -> Certificates -> Advanced, I
> found the file format is most likely .cer.
>
> Looking in the registry, HKCR\.cer is defined as 'CERFile'.
> HKCR\CERFile\DefaultIcon comes from the cryptui.dll file, in your system32
> directory. And there is an icon of a certificate in an open envelope with a
> key!!!
>
> Keith
>
> "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> news:eqEuVdkXFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi
> >
> > It is a certificate that has nothing to do with my computer but was issued
> > by the French Tax Office and it allows me to make a tax declaration on
> > line.
> >
> > The icon is a certificate in an open envelope with a key in the bottom
> > right
> > hand corner.
> >
> > It installed itself on my C drive.
> >
> > Finally, with Icon Extracteur version 2, I can see its folder but inside
> > there is no 'icon' that shows up in the extractor software or in Windows.
> >
> > Still haven't solved this one.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Neve
> >
> >
> > "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > %23HIIYiiXFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I think if it displays as an icon, it's an icon.
> >
> > There are a few in certmgr.dll, but none with an envelope.
> >
> > What type of certificate is this?
> >
> > What is the file type of the certificate?
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> > news:%23cNQ%23bcXFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Nice try but my when I change an icon with XP, it always opens
> > > %SystemRoot%\system32\SHELL32.dll first and the icon wasn't there.
> > >
> > > After that , I dont know where to look but I have a hunch it isn't an
> > > icon
> > > as I can't find it with an icon extractor
> > >
> > > Any other ideas please?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Keith Miller" <k.miller79@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > > OP$SGtYXFHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Try creating a shortcut to the certificate. Shortcuts usually have the
> > > same
> > > icon as their targets. The open the property sheet for the shortcut &
> > > click
> > > 'change icon'. The resulting dialog should show you the file that is
> > > the
> > > source of the current icon. You can then browse to it from the change
> > > icon
> > > dialog for the folder in question.
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > "Dave Neve" <NoAddressForSpammers@Nofs.fr> wrote in message
> > > news:OZFGqrWXFHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have just installed a certificate on my computer and I wanted to
> > > > extract
> > > > the icon and attribute it to the containing folder to avoid anyone
> > > > from
> > > > deleting it.
> > > >
> > > > When I look at the certificate on my C: Drive, it has what seems to be
> > > > an
> > > > icon (of a certificate in an open envelope) but I can't find it with
> > > > the
> > > > Windows system which allows me to change the appearance of folders.
> > > >
> > > > I've also tried with an icon extractor but same problem.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose that it isn't an icon but a .bmp image or sth.
> > > >
> > > > How can I get to this 'drawing', copy and use it?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Dave Neve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>


Extracting an icon which may not be an icon