MS Java



AliceZ
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we had MS Java
selected. We had a small free website at Geocities and when we tried to edit
a page on that site on another PC, we noticed all the text was out of sync.
Someone said that was because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC
we were using was not using MS Java.
Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on the MS Java.
Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice it does not have MS
Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced.
Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this computer. We
don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if we do use this newer
computer to work on our site in Geocities, will the text be in line with all
the other text OR whether the text will be out of sync like it was when we
used our friend's computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using
Java (Sun).
Can anyone offer any help?

Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
Instead, download and install the free Java software:
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"AliceZ" wrote:

| On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we had MS Java
| selected. We had a small free website at Geocities and when we tried to edit
| a page on that site on another PC, we noticed all the text was out of sync.
| Someone said that was because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC
| we were using was not using MS Java.
| Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on the MS Java.
| Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice it does not have MS
| Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced.
| Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this computer. We
| don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if we do use this newer
| computer to work on our site in Geocities, will the text be in line with all
| the other text OR whether the text will be out of sync like it was when we
| used our friend's computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using
| Java (Sun).
| Can anyone offer any help?

AliceZ
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there is no Java
on our new computer. And that we should install the new Sun Java VM version
5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would take some
time, wouldn't it?
Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure (automatic
installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that we might not know how
to answer?
(We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought Java
would have been already installed on this new computer. Even paying the $10
for the Java installation disk is a bit above our means since we are living
on a small monthly income.)
Thanks for your kind assistance.

(We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
=====

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>
> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "AliceZ" wrote:
>
> | On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we had MS Java
> | selected. We had a small free website at Geocities and when we tried to edit
> | a page on that site on another PC, we noticed all the text was out of sync.
> | Someone said that was because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC
> | we were using was not using MS Java.
> | Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on the MS Java.
> | Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice it does not have MS
> | Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced.
> | Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this computer. We
> | don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if we do use this newer
> | computer to work on our site in Geocities, will the text be in line with all
> | the other text OR whether the text will be out of sync like it was when we
> | used our friend's computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using
> | Java (Sun).
> | Can anyone offer any help?
>

Anando [MS-MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Hi,

If you google up "MS Virtual Machine download", you will come across many third-party websites where
you can download the MS virtual machine. Ofcourse, you will have to use your judgement to verify the
authenticity of the download.

--

Anando
Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
http://www.mvps.org

In memory of Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx

Folder customizations
http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku

Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DC129EA6-5661-4714-9F79-3B586A503E27@microsoft.com...
> As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there is no Java
> on our new computer. And that we should install the new Sun Java VM version
> 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would take some
> time, wouldn't it?
> Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure (automatic
> installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that we might not know how
> to answer?
> (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought Java
> would have been already installed on this new computer. Even paying the $10
> for the Java installation disk is a bit above our means since we are living
> on a small monthly income.)
> Thanks for your kind assistance.
>
> (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
> =====
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
>> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
>> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>>
>> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>> Microsoft Newsgroups
>>
>> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "AliceZ" wrote:
>>
>> | On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we had MS Java
>> | selected. We had a small free website at Geocities and when we tried to edit
>> | a page on that site on another PC, we noticed all the text was out of sync.
>> | Someone said that was because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC
>> | we were using was not using MS Java.
>> | Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on the MS Java.
>> | Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice it does not have MS
>> | Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced.
>> | Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this computer. We
>> | don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if we do use this newer
>> | computer to work on our site in Geocities, will the text be in line with all
>> | the other text OR whether the text will be out of sync like it was when we
>> | used our friend's computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using
>> | Java (Sun).
>> | Can anyone offer any help?
>>

AliceZ
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
My previous questions were directed to Carey Frisch about his post and
downloading of theSun VM; not the MS Virtual Machine. Is it possible that he
cold answer my questions? We had questions about the download of Sun VM and
also what the difference was between the two versions mentioned, namely: ver
5 and ver 1.5.0.
Thank you.


================
"Anando [MS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you google up "MS Virtual Machine download", you will come across many third-party websites where
> you can download the MS virtual machine. Ofcourse, you will have to use your judgement to verify the
> authenticity of the download.
>
> --
>
> Anando
> Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
> http://www.mvps.org
>
> In memory of Alex Nichol
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
>
> Folder customizations
> http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku
>
> Protect your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DC129EA6-5661-4714-9F79-3B586A503E27@microsoft.com...
> > As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there is no Java
> > on our new computer. And that we should install the new Sun Java VM version
> > 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would take some
> > time, wouldn't it?
> > Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure (automatic
> > installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that we might not know how
> > to answer?
> > (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought Java
> > would have been already installed on this new computer. Even paying the $10
> > for the Java installation disk is a bit above our means since we are living
> > on a small monthly income.)
> > Thanks for your kind assistance.
> >
> > (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
> > =====
> >
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
> >> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
> >> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
> >>
> >> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carey Frisch
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows XP - Shell/User
> >> Microsoft Newsgroups
> >>
> >> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "AliceZ" wrote:
> >>
> >> | On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we had MS Java
> >> | selected. We had a small free website at Geocities and when we tried to edit
> >> | a page on that site on another PC, we noticed all the text was out of sync.
> >> | Someone said that was because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC
> >> | we were using was not using MS Java.
> >> | Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on the MS Java.
> >> | Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice it does not have MS
> >> | Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced.
> >> | Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this computer. We
> >> | don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if we do use this newer
> >> | computer to work on our site in Geocities, will the text be in line with all
> >> | the other text OR whether the text will be out of sync like it was when we
> >> | used our friend's computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using
> >> | Java (Sun).
> >> | Can anyone offer any help?
> >>
>
>
>

Anando [MS-MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Well, in that case you would have to wait for Carey to come visit the newsgroups.

--

Anando
Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
http://www.mvps.org

In memory of Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx

Folder customizations
http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku

Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3C45B43B-B284-4B52-8DB3-350F38C19F20@microsoft.com...
> My previous questions were directed to Carey Frisch about his post and
> downloading of theSun VM; not the MS Virtual Machine. Is it possible that he
> cold answer my questions? We had questions about the download of Sun VM and
> also what the difference was between the two versions mentioned, namely: ver
> 5 and ver 1.5.0.
> Thank you.
>
>
> ================
> "Anando [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you google up "MS Virtual Machine download", you will come across many third-party websites
>> where
>> you can download the MS virtual machine. Ofcourse, you will have to use your judgement to verify
>> the
>> authenticity of the download.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Anando
>> Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
>> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
>> http://www.mvps.org
>>
>> In memory of Alex Nichol
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
>>
>> Folder customizations
>> http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku
>>
>> Protect your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>>
>>
>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:DC129EA6-5661-4714-9F79-3B586A503E27@microsoft.com...
>> > As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there is no Java
>> > on our new computer. And that we should install the new Sun Java VM version
>> > 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would take some
>> > time, wouldn't it?
>> > Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure (automatic
>> > installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that we might not know how
>> > to answer?
>> > (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought Java
>> > would have been already installed on this new computer. Even paying the $10
>> > for the Java installation disk is a bit above our means since we are living
>> > on a small monthly income.)
>> > Thanks for your kind assistance.
>> >
>> > (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
>> > =====
>> >
>> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
>> >> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
>> >> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Carey Frisch
>> >> Microsoft MVP
>> >> Windows XP - Shell/User
>> >> Microsoft Newsgroups
>> >>
>> >> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>> >>
>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> "AliceZ" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> | On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we had MS Java
>> >> | selected. We had a small free website at Geocities and when we tried to edit
>> >> | a page on that site on another PC, we noticed all the text was out of sync.
>> >> | Someone said that was because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC
>> >> | we were using was not using MS Java.
>> >> | Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on the MS Java.
>> >> | Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice it does not have MS
>> >> | Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced.
>> >> | Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this computer. We
>> >> | don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if we do use this newer
>> >> | computer to work on our site in Geocities, will the text be in line with all
>> >> | the other text OR whether the text will be out of sync like it was when we
>> >> | used our friend's computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using
>> >> | Java (Sun).
>> >> | Can anyone offer any help?
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Carey Frisch [MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
I would suggest visiting the following web site
for a relatively easy way to download Java:
http://www.java.com/en/index.jsp

Just click on "Free Java Download".

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"AliceZ" wrote:

| As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there is no Java
| on our new computer. And that we should install the new Sun Java VM version
| 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would take some
| time, wouldn't it?
| Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure (automatic
| installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that we might not know how
| to answer?
| (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought Java
| would have been already installed on this new computer. Even paying the $10
| for the Java installation disk is a bit above our means since we are living
| on a small monthly income.)
| Thanks for your kind assistance.
|
| (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)

Michael Stevens
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
In news:3C45B43B-B284-4B52-8DB3-350F38C19F20@microsoft.com,
AliceZ <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> replied with a ;-)
> My previous questions were directed to Carey Frisch about his post and
> downloading of theSun VM; not the MS Virtual Machine. Is it possible
> that he cold answer my questions? We had questions about the download
> of Sun VM and also what the difference was between the two versions
> mentioned, namely: ver 5 and ver 1.5.0.
> Thank you.
>
>
> ================
> "Anando [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>

You seem unfamililiar with newsgroups, so for you your information the
newsgroups are peer support and anybody has the right to answer any post.
When you post a question, you should allow at least 24 hours to get a good
consensus of replies to your question since the peer groups that posts to
the newsgroups are located worldwide.
In your instance, you got a quick reply from Anando [MS-MVP] a very
respected peer group poster. It is not bad questioning the information you
get in the newsgroups, [Andrew E as an example] but you should thank the
respondent and wait for more responses. Your reply was an insult to Anando
and in this case of Anondo's reply, it is likely no more posts are necessary
as they would be redundant.

>> Hi,
>>
>> If you google up "MS Virtual Machine download", you will come across
>> many third-party websites where you can download the MS virtual
>> machine. Ofcourse, you will have to use your judgement to verify the
>> authenticity of the download.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Anando
>> Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
>> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
>> http://www.mvps.org
>>
>> In memory of Alex Nichol
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
>>
>> Folder customizations
>> http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku
>>
>> Protect your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>>
>>
>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:DC129EA6-5661-4714-9F79-3B586A503E27@microsoft.com...
>>> As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there
>>> is no Java on our new computer. And that we should install the new
>>> Sun Java VM version
>>> 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would
>>> take some time, wouldn't it?
>>> Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure
>>> (automatic installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that
>>> we might not know how to answer?
>>> (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought
>>> Java would have been already installed on this new computer. Even
>>> paying the $10 for the Java installation disk is a bit above our
>>> means since we are living on a small monthly income.)
>>> Thanks for your kind assistance.
>>>
>>> (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
>>> =====
>>>
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
>>>> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
>>>> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>>> Microsoft Newsgroups
>>>>
>>>> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> "AliceZ" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we
>>>>> had MS Java selected. We had a small free website at Geocities
>>>>> and when we tried to edit a page on that site on another PC, we
>>>>> noticed all the text was out of sync. Someone said that was
>>>>> because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC we were
>>>>> using was not using MS Java.
>>>>> Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on
>>>>> the MS Java. Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice
>>>>> it does not have MS Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE
>>>>> Tools/Options/Advanced.
>>>>> Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this
>>>>> computer. We don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if
>>>>> we do use this newer computer to work on our site in Geocities,
>>>>> will the text be in line with all the other text OR whether the
>>>>> text will be out of sync like it was when we used our friend's
>>>>> computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using Java
>>>>> (Sun).
>>>>> Can anyone offer any help?

Anando [MS-MVP]
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Thanks Michael !

PS: Your XP clean install page just rocks ! An easy reference for anyone trying a clean install.

--

Anando
Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
http://www.mvps.org

In memory of Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx

Folder customizations
http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku

Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Michael Stevens" <mstevens@bogusmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O8$1l7RXFHA.2060@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> In news:3C45B43B-B284-4B52-8DB3-350F38C19F20@microsoft.com,
> AliceZ <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> replied with a ;-)
>> My previous questions were directed to Carey Frisch about his post and
>> downloading of theSun VM; not the MS Virtual Machine. Is it possible
>> that he cold answer my questions? We had questions about the download
>> of Sun VM and also what the difference was between the two versions
>> mentioned, namely: ver 5 and ver 1.5.0.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> ================
>> "Anando [MS-MVP]" wrote:
>>
>
> You seem unfamililiar with newsgroups, so for you your information the newsgroups are peer support
> and anybody has the right to answer any post. When you post a question, you should allow at least
> 24 hours to get a good consensus of replies to your question since the peer groups that posts to
> the newsgroups are located worldwide.
> In your instance, you got a quick reply from Anando [MS-MVP] a very respected peer group poster.
> It is not bad questioning the information you get in the newsgroups, [Andrew E as an example] but
> you should thank the respondent and wait for more responses. Your reply was an insult to Anando
> and in this case of Anondo's reply, it is likely no more posts are necessary as they would be
> redundant.
>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you google up "MS Virtual Machine download", you will come across
>>> many third-party websites where you can download the MS virtual
>>> machine. Ofcourse, you will have to use your judgement to verify the
>>> authenticity of the download.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Anando
>>> Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
>>> http://www.mvps.org
>>>
>>> In memory of Alex Nichol
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
>>>
>>> Folder customizations
>>> http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku
>>>
>>> Protect your PC!
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>>>
>>>
>>> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:DC129EA6-5661-4714-9F79-3B586A503E27@microsoft.com...
>>>> As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there
>>>> is no Java on our new computer. And that we should install the new
>>>> Sun Java VM version
>>>> 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would
>>>> take some time, wouldn't it?
>>>> Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure
>>>> (automatic installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that
>>>> we might not know how to answer?
>>>> (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought
>>>> Java would have been already installed on this new computer. Even
>>>> paying the $10 for the Java installation disk is a bit above our
>>>> means since we are living on a small monthly income.)
>>>> Thanks for your kind assistance.
>>>>
>>>> (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
>>>> =====
>>>>
>>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
>>>>> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
>>>>> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Carey Frisch
>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>>>> Microsoft Newsgroups
>>>>>
>>>>> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> "AliceZ" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we
>>>>>> had MS Java selected. We had a small free website at Geocities
>>>>>> and when we tried to edit a page on that site on another PC, we
>>>>>> noticed all the text was out of sync. Someone said that was
>>>>>> because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC we were
>>>>>> using was not using MS Java.
>>>>>> Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on
>>>>>> the MS Java. Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice
>>>>>> it does not have MS Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE
>>>>>> Tools/Options/Advanced.
>>>>>> Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this
>>>>>> computer. We don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if
>>>>>> we do use this newer computer to work on our site in Geocities,
>>>>>> will the text be in line with all the other text OR whether the
>>>>>> text will be out of sync like it was when we used our friend's
>>>>>> computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using Java
>>>>>> (Sun).
>>>>>> Can anyone offer any help?
>
>
>

AliceZ
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
No disrespect was meant to anyone. We are just frightened about making any
changes to our computer (downloading, etc.) that might damage it. As senior
citizens we are prone to asking (maybe) too many questions so as not to make
a mistake. We just wanted to double-check some statements made by someone who
made a post. Sorry if we offended anyone; it was not intended.

=========
"Michael Stevens" wrote:

> In news:3C45B43B-B284-4B52-8DB3-350F38C19F20@microsoft.com,
> AliceZ <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> replied with a ;-)
> > My previous questions were directed to Carey Frisch about his post and
> > downloading of theSun VM; not the MS Virtual Machine. Is it possible
> > that he cold answer my questions? We had questions about the download
> > of Sun VM and also what the difference was between the two versions
> > mentioned, namely: ver 5 and ver 1.5.0.
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > ================
> > "Anando [MS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
>
> You seem unfamililiar with newsgroups, so for you your information the
> newsgroups are peer support and anybody has the right to answer any post.
> When you post a question, you should allow at least 24 hours to get a good
> consensus of replies to your question since the peer groups that posts to
> the newsgroups are located worldwide.
> In your instance, you got a quick reply from Anando [MS-MVP] a very
> respected peer group poster. It is not bad questioning the information you
> get in the newsgroups, [Andrew E as an example] but you should thank the
> respondent and wait for more responses. Your reply was an insult to Anando
> and in this case of Anondo's reply, it is likely no more posts are necessary
> as they would be redundant.
>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> If you google up "MS Virtual Machine download", you will come across
> >> many third-party websites where you can download the MS virtual
> >> machine. Ofcourse, you will have to use your judgement to verify the
> >> authenticity of the download.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Anando
> >> Microsoft MVP- Windows Shell/User
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
> >> http://www.mvps.org
> >>
> >> In memory of Alex Nichol
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
> >>
> >> Folder customizations
> >> http://newdelhi.sancharnet.in/minku
> >>
> >> Protect your PC!
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> >>
> >>
> >> "AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:DC129EA6-5661-4714-9F79-3B586A503E27@microsoft.com...
> >>> As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there
> >>> is no Java on our new computer. And that we should install the new
> >>> Sun Java VM version
> >>> 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would
> >>> take some time, wouldn't it?
> >>> Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure
> >>> (automatic installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that
> >>> we might not know how to answer?
> >>> (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought
> >>> Java would have been already installed on this new computer. Even
> >>> paying the $10 for the Java installation disk is a bit above our
> >>> means since we are living on a small monthly income.)
> >>> Thanks for your kind assistance.
> >>>
> >>> (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
> >>> =====
> >>>
> >>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Microsoft no longer supports the old Java Virtual Machine.
> >>>> Instead, download and install the free Java software:
> >>>> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
> >>>>
> >>>> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Support
> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Carey Frisch
> >>>> Microsoft MVP
> >>>> Windows XP - Shell/User
> >>>> Microsoft Newsgroups
> >>>>
> >>>> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> "AliceZ" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On our older notebook (WinXP) in the IE Tools/Options/Advanced we
> >>>>> had MS Java selected. We had a small free website at Geocities
> >>>>> and when we tried to edit a page on that site on another PC, we
> >>>>> noticed all the text was out of sync. Someone said that was
> >>>>> because we had MS Java on our home PC and the other PC we were
> >>>>> using was not using MS Java.
> >>>>> Our older notebook had MS Java and Java (Sun) and we checked on
> >>>>> the MS Java. Now, we have received a newer desktop, but we notice
> >>>>> it does not have MS Java OR Java (Sun) in the IE
> >>>>> Tools/Options/Advanced.
> >>>>> Now we wonder if we can work on our Geocities website with this
> >>>>> computer. We don't know if it has MS Java or Java (Sun). And if
> >>>>> we do use this newer computer to work on our site in Geocities,
> >>>>> will the text be in line with all the other text OR whether the
> >>>>> text will be out of sync like it was when we used our friend's
> >>>>> computer (who didn't have MS Java - believe he was using Java
> >>>>> (Sun).
> >>>>> Can anyone offer any help?
>
>
>
>

Michael Stevens
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
In news:%23iVPxvXXFHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Anando [MS-MVP] <anando@mvps.org> replied with a ;-)
> Thanks Michael !
>
> PS: Your XP clean install page just rocks ! An easy reference for
> anyone trying a clean install.
>

My pleasure and thanks for the comment on my clean install web page.

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AliceZ
07-10-2005, 12:38 AM
Thank you. Would you know if the new version of Java would overwrite
previous version?
=============

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> I would suggest visiting the following web site
> for a relatively easy way to download Java:
> http://www.java.com/en/index.jsp
>
> Just click on "Free Java Download".
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "AliceZ" wrote:
>
> | As we understand it - there is no longer a MS Java and that there is no Java
> | on our new computer. And that we should install the new Sun Java VM version
> | 5. We are using a dial up service (AOL9) and downloading 15MB would take some
> | time, wouldn't it?
> | Also, if we do decide to download, is it a simple procedure (automatic
> | installation, etc.)? Or are there questions asked that we might not know how
> | to answer?
> | (We are senior citizens and this is all a bit new to us. We thought Java
> | would have been already installed on this new computer. Even paying the $10
> | for the Java installation disk is a bit above our means since we are living
> | on a small monthly income.)
> | Thanks for your kind assistance.
> |
> | (We now see the Java 'Coffee Cup' in our Control Panel.)
>
>

Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)
07-10-2005, 12:38 AM
AliceZ wrote:

> Thank you. Would you know if the new version of Java would
> overwrite previous version?
Hi,

No, different versions of SUN Java Runtime Environment will not
overwrite each other.


--
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Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx

AliceZ
07-10-2005, 12:38 AM
Thank you.
#1- So the previous version (1.4.2) will remain on the computer and it will
show in IE6 / Tools / Internet Options / Advanced? But the 1.5.0 should be
checked?
#2- Is version 5.0 the same as 1.5.0?
#3- The Java page gives 3 ways to get the new JRE. Which of the following
should be used (easiest for a novice)?
Automatic download
Manual download
Offline download
Thanks for any help.

==============
"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

> AliceZ wrote:
>
> > Thank you. Would you know if the new version of Java would
> > overwrite previous version?
> Hi,
>
> No, different versions of SUN Java Runtime Environment will not
> overwrite each other.
>
>
> --
> torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
> the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
>

Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)
07-10-2005, 12:39 AM
AliceZ wrote:

> Thank you.
> #1- So the previous version (1.4.2) will remain on the computer

Yes.


> and it will show in IE6 / Tools / Internet Options / Advanced?
> But the 1.5.0 should be checked?

No, under "Internet Options / Advanced" you will only find 1.5.0.


> #2- Is version 5.0 the same as 1.5.0?

Yes.


> #3- The Java page gives 3 ways to get the new JRE. Which of the
> following should be used (easiest for a novice)?
> Automatic download
> Manual download
> Offline download

I suggest you use Automatic download...


--
torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx


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